Q. There will be 12 teams in the SPL next season. How many do you think stand to gain from the redistribution of income proposed by the Gang of 10?
A. 11.
Q. There will be 30 teams in the SFL next season. How many do you think stand to gain from the redistribution of income proposed by the Gang of 10?
A. 30.
Although TV and commercial money will be diluted, it is a sideshow compared to the real cash cow remaining in Scottish football, the gate money at Celtic Park. The Gang of 10 refused to exclude this option from their proposed change in voting rights.
A 20% share of gate money doesn’t have sufficient support from SPL clubs, too many losers. A 30% gate share only has one loser, everyone else wins, including the club who took 87 fans to a league game at Celtic Park last season.
This is nothing to do with Sevco, who are unlikely to pull a financially viable plan together (although the SPL and SFA are still trying). You’re being asked to open your wallets and pay for the upkeep of 42 stadiums, squads, boards of directors and kit men.
This is not a viable plan. It’s time for Scottish football to admit defeat. Sport has been subverted for over a decade to the point there is nothing left. We can keep Hampden and the national team going, but there is no viable league structure. The sooner we accept this and move on the better.
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Dirtymac
I had some discourse with deliasmith some days ago
Said poster deliberately misrepresented my response ….it seems just how he/ she chooses to reply
He/ she continues to fail to produce any evidence to support his/ her position ….other than the “because it is “response that one got as a kid
He/ she will back tomorrow promulgating the same nonsense with no attempt at justification and constant whining about others being less than gracious in their response
@JohnboyMaclean: James RFFF-badge-wearer Ballantine, head honcho of Airdrie and SFL, drew up plan that denies Airdrie promotion to Division 1 @SFLcorrupt
Any Celtic fan who thinks we should give 30% of our season ticket income away is either insane or is not a true Celtic fan.
A totally stupid proposal which cannot be argued for.
Do we then charge clubs more that come to Celtic Park as we have higher rates and policing costs?
It’s just plain stupid, and I’d hazard illegal.
dirtymac@0014 I am fed up telling everyone on here that THEMS will be playing in NO league in the foreseeable future. HH.
Macjay
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 28 June, 2012 at 14:16
Just for your information, what Awe_Naw said in that post could be read as nasty.To my mind they are some of the most despicable and threatening of words ever used on here; but in case you don’t remember, or you were unaware, it was not Awe_Naw who suggested that “you stick knitting needles in your eyes” that piece of nastiness was originally penned by GCT. The very same person who played the victim card and you fell for it.
Awe_Naw was doing no more than throwing the nastiness back at him. And please don’t forget all the nastiness that was penned under his (GCT’s) different monikers. Believe me I still have most of it.
Awe_Naw was doing no more than taking the pee, the nastiness was GCT’s but as always he plays on the sentiments of posters and plays the ubiquitous victim card. He then in tantrum throws out all sorts of allegations and flounces off. How many times has he done that now?
I STILL HAVE the ‘sticking needles in your eyes’ post somewhere. I’ll try and find it.
Ask Paul67 about those words.
Tom
Really pleased you got that.
Hope we`ll get that schooner one of these days.
Hail Hail
Celtic are far bigger than all of this.
Where do you think the club Green is trying to form should start?
Non-league – I’d like to see a local derby with St Anthony’s.
This is a serious answer.
What I think would be best is a new club in Govan, Govan Town FC, playing in all red, for the proud socialist tradition of that district. I’d have a sheep’s heid for a badge and a completely fresh start, personified by an Irish manager and a green away strip.
My family has been in Govan since the first McAulays came over from Cavan some time before the 1851 Census, Probably because of the famine, you know. I like Govan.
The first year of my married life I lived in Clynder Street, literally in the shadow of Ibrox Park. Many is the bucket of water I have sluiced down my close after a Rangers home game, and many are the thanks I have given that in those days they were lucky to get 10,000 for a home game.
As for the rest: if you don’t like my tone – well I don’t like incoherent half-threats from low-life wannabe thugs, or ad hominem responses to fair points. But I can suck it up, so should you.
Clash&cults got to agree with you,celtic are playing this very cool with their silence,never interrupt your enemy while they are making mistakes.
Kitalba
Enjoy our weekend
Don’t get embroiled in nonsense discourse
It’s a waste of your talents
Take care
HH
Night all
Tom and macjay1
FFS lads get some perspective.
You’re as entitled as the next man to post, lurk, or otherwise. But don’t make a soap opera out of it. If a post or poster offends you, then ignore it, respond to it, or report it.
We all know you’re not huns. You know you’re not huns. Some guy on a website suggests you’re huns? Doesn’t make it true, doesn’t require you to defend yourself to him, and nobody else on the site gives a fk. Let it go.
FELLOW TIMS – if we spend our time arguing with each other over fk all, we might miss the hilarity that is about to explode at Hunville.
There will be no SPL2 incorporating GreenHuns. There will be no huns team playing professional football in Scotland in 2012/2013. Kirk Broadfoot will conclude his football career without ever having recognisably played football.
Eggscellent.
Any Celtic fan who thinks we should give 30% of our season ticket income away is either insane or is not a true Celtic fan.
A totally stupid proposal which cannot be argued for.
Very grateful to Bazza for this. “No true Scotsman” is a recognised philosophical fallacy and it’s heartwarming to see it being used so appropriately.
I hope you’ll all follow the link, but if you’re too busy here’s the nub:
“This fallacy is a form of circular argument, with an existing belief being assumed to be true in order to dismiss any apparent counter-examples to it. The existing belief thus becomes unfalsifiable.”
The second art of Bazza’s post is less elegant – evidently it CAN be argued for. What Bazza should have said is “… cannot be argued for successfully, in my opinion.”
….PFayr
Cheers mate, my weekend starts in two hours and after a week of rain the sun has broken through, I’ll have a good one. However I have never know such deceit on here and people are falling for it. I really do feel like just dumping all the nastiness, under all the guises on the blog in a oner, and link them with one post.
Charles Green is not the Messiah, he’s just a very naughty boy…
The Life of the Huns, at a cinema near you NOW.
hh
bjmac
Kit
Very pleased to hear from you.
Basically,I have no wish to take sides in ongoing personal disputes between any posters.Life`s too short and Celtic are too important.
Equally,I haven`t followed the insults traded between some posters in the past,I`m very happy to say.Frankly,I wouldn`t want to.
Have you read the post I put up which provoked all this?
Basically,it was a plea that the Scottish community move on from the past.
Led by ourselves.
Follow the posts ,if you care to.
On a personal basis,I do hope that our friendship is not damaged by this.
As I say,life`s too short .
P.S.Wish I hadn`t lost your phone number. :-)
TopCorner on 28 June, 2012 at 23:55 said:
>>>>>
Done
Well there have been a couple of shocks tonight. Germany going out imo was a shock. They were poor. Nadal going out, now that was a shock. Now i’m no prude quite the opposite actually for anyone that knows me but the biggest shock for me was looking back over a lot of the posts today. What total bile and nasty material coming thru there . Cmon folks we all have our opinions and feelings are running high but lets remember it’s the huns or newco or secvco or whatever bloodyco they want to be called that’s in the brown stuff. For an hour I thought I was on a different site from this fantastic blog that is Celtic Quick News. Yes of course there are thousands of people on here every day but please guys keep it civil before Paul67 pulls the plug.
Hail hail
Pablo
tarrant on 29 June, 2012 at 00:31 said:
I loved that.
Now,don`t take offence. :-)
Kitalba
Hope you’re well.
Do what is right, you know what that is, for you. A wise man once told me I didn’t NEED to prove I was right all the time. The people that matter to you know, do you need anyone else?
Take care.
hh
bjmac
I will stick my neck out on this one,here goes,i think we should adopt her madge as a new sarcastic hero,i put awee photo of her on my desk at work to annoy the huns and my goodness it worked a treat. heehee.Not that we will be waving the butchers apron god forbid. I remember when they tried to sing about saving her at the last game at cp,and was met with the sound of ironic laughter.
Paul67
I have just arrived in a very sunny Orlando.
I haven’t read anything but the leader ,so please accept my apologies for asking a question that has probably already been posed to you.
Do Celtic have a viable plan to go elsewhere?
TT
A couple of photoshops i did. Last ones a bit rushed so not perfect.
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/yippekayyay_rfc/planetoftherangers.jpg
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/yippekayyay_rfc/johngreigvsbrucelee.jpg
Just having a last quick look before turning in and found this, which must have been posted while I was slowly typing some response or other:
Gordyboy:
and your arguement that we pay to watch a game is factually correct,but nonsense all the same
This makes me genuinely very proud.
Until today it has been generally assumed that “factually correct” and “nonsense” were two categories entirely separate and distinct, like positive integers and negative integers. But it seems that I have stumbled across a proposition that can be placed in both categories, a groundbreaking achievement for which I am surely destined to be imortalised. Very proud … really humble but quietly proud.
Macjay:
And that is proof positive that GCT is the most insidious and creepy poster ever to darken these pages.
You wrote him:
Tom
Don`t know if you`re up and about just now,but I hope you are.because I want to thank you for your contribution above.
There are many views within the Celtic community,and that community will remain fiercely all inclusive in spite of what some think and say.
I suppose you will have read Awe Naw`s response at 14.16.Quite the most vicious thing I have ever read on C.Q.N.
The use of “bad language ” on C.Q.N.is usually forbidden for the very good reason that ” children read this site”
What was said to you was worse than the worst of bad language,imho, not to mention earlier references to “SCOTTISH SCUM.”
He replies:
1. Thanks for your comments. I simply could not believe the level of vitriol being thrown at you and had to speak out. I did indeed see Awe_Naw’s follow-up comment. It was very kind of him to actually prove my point so quickly and so typically. Take care mate and again, thanks for your support.
He had the perfect opportunity to put you right as to who actually owns the copyright on the words… sticking knitting needles in your eyes but it was rather remiss of him not to inform you that it was he who first suggested that particular endearment to Awe_Naw some three years ago.
No he allowed you and the blog to believe that Awe_Naw was the blog bully. What does that say about the man.
Did I not read him telling you that he had only ever been to Sydney twice and both times on business? Am I correct that he wrote you those words just recently? I’m curious… Did he expand further on that statement?
This place is the richer when we all agree on something, is comfortably well off when there’s decent debate and then has holes in its pockets when some people are happy to pick holes in arguments rather than debate.
We’re doing well as a club, we’re the champions, and we have a champions league qualifier or two and more to look forward to and a bright new season. Our rivals? Not so much. These are good times and many more pathetic fag-packet drafts of garbage won’t change things because they are not sustainable for 24 hours let alone years. Honestly, what we’ve seen today is a kite-flying exercise to see the level of acceptance for fans. A clue to the writers – don’t waste your time on foolish hypotheses, the football fan of today is sharper than you think and understands the business. No longer can a board, or an SPL chair or an SFA chief exec treat us like mushrooms with bullsh*t and in the dark.More a fun-guy.
Tiny Tim
As you will likely remember, it was me who got PL to agree to a meeting around two to three years ago on the very subject you’re mentioning, as far as I know, we are no further forward, this is extremely disappointing and the biggest negative against PL.
I too am in sunny climes, but Spain not USA.
I paid £482 ( pensioners rate ) and I am disgusted at the thought of any of my hard eared cash is going to anyone else than Celtic. HH
Kitalba
the Awe_Naw\macjay1 discussion origin on chronological order
observe how macjay1 arranges victimhood by deliberately misunderstanding Awe_Naw’s comment aimed at the corrupt officebearers of our game.
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 28 June, 2012 at 11:56 said:
“Allowing for the fact that many of us have differing political views,was there ever a better time to be a Celtic supporter?
Put those differences behind us.
Unite to support our beloved Celtic.
This is a time for magnanimity
Be openhearted to our fellow Scottish supporters.
Create a competition we can all support ,without the acrimony of religious and racial bigotry.
We Tims, as leaders,must now take the lead.
“There comes a tide in the affairs of man which,taken at the flood ,leads on to fortune.”
Gaun yersels,Jimmy and Paddy.”
traditionalist88 on 28 June, 2012 at 12:15 said:
”
‘Be openhearted to our fellow Scottish supporters’
Macjay, don’t make me laugh.Go on an away trip sometime and see if you want to be openhearted to those ‘fellow Scottish supporters’ you encounter.
Don’t fall into the trap of believing the rest of the supporters are against newco because of some preference to side with us instead of them.
Lets live in the real world.
HH ”
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 28 June, 2012 at 12:20 said:
“traditionalist88 on 28 June, 2012 at 12:15 said
Well said.
Why is it our job to civilise Scottish scum ?
They sat on their hands and watched and waited cause it was Celtic that was getting it up the Jacksie so that made matters ok.
When it became clear that they were getting it up the jacksie as well only then they stood up.
And they only stood up …. after it all came out ….. creditors, threats of violence, changing rules, lack of contrition etc.
Hail Hail”
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 28 June, 2012 at 12:24 said:
“Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 28 June, 2012 at 12:20 said:
traditionalist88 on 28 June, 2012 at 12:15 said
Well said.
Why is it our job to civilise Scottish scum ?
Awe Naw
Painful to hear your opinion.
I`m Scottish and therefore scum. ”
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 28 June, 2012 at 12:28 said:
“macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 28 June, 2012 at 12:24 said:
Awe Naw
Painful to hear your opinion.
I`m Scottish and therefore scum.
macjay1
if that’s what you refer from my last post and you want to wear the mantle of Scottish scum then you just volunteered.
Can I suggest attention seeking imbecile as well as it would seem highly appropriate at this juncture ?
Let me know if you want to voluntarily adorn the mantle of attention seeking imbecilic Scottish scum as it´s fun.
HAil HAil “
macjay1 for Neil Lennon:
I don’t need to read back, I am well aware how things can get out of hand, without intent or agenda, but I think if you read back you will see that I too stood up for you, but I did it becasue I know you and know what you are like.
I don’t want you to take sides but I do want you to be aware of the truth in all instance where truth can be substantiated.
Now that you know that it was GCT who penned that repulsive ‘sticking needles in your eyes post”, do you still hold that it the most viscious words you’ve ever read on here?
Do you not think that an apology is due to Awe_Naw by both you and GCT?
Don’t worry about our friendship as I said earlier, I’ve known you since I was a kid, I’m not going to allow a wee internet dispute to cloud my opinion of you.
deliasmith,
i am quite sure you knew what i meant,but if you want to patronise me,fair enough,
Sorry, for a ST. ( It’s an age thing ) :))
Daily express have us linked with swedish international keeper.Hope it scares that big foster into signing.
punk rock tim on 29 June, 2012 at 01:04 said:
I had enough of hednus magnum the last time he was here…
The current frenetic squabbles on here remind me of the existential panic expressed last October as the Huns (In Extinction) took a 15 point lead.
Back then there were a thousand demands for action, be it Lenny’s head or board involvement.
Now we’re at one of those tipping points again and the most anxious of us feel the need to demand comfort once more to break the inner tension.
Wood for the trees, dudes, wood for the trees; the only silent voice in all this Ogilvie-orchestrated mendacity is the most powerful around.
Celtic will speak when the time is pertinent, and Celtic’s word will be scripture because we are the power.
Who needs to be the peepil when you can tell the peepil how they’ll take their medicine.
Soon, bothers, soon. Have faith. And don’t fret about the Zombies; they’ll never climb the mountain of legality quick enough or adeptly enough to make it for season 2012/13.
Ogilvie’s in the sights, like – to paraphrase the follofollow analogy – a cornered insane elepant.
Canamalar – did you buy a season ticket?
Sorry if I have missed you answering previously – not been on here much recently.
hh
bjmac
Bloke109 00:56
Well said.
Things were going real well today then we read the media storm that was whatever it was, Im not sure what was cast in stone if anything after all that hulla baloo but at the end of the day Celtic are Champions and are facing CL qualifiers, we should be able to afford time without thinking back to former rivals. Granted the lastest thing may have something in it but folk were getting upset, the carcass of what was once rangers is long dead, that is history, Celtic continue.
A new entity carrying the smell of that carcass is continuing and the type of folk in the sfa/spl/sfl etc who followed the old rfc are desperately clinging onto whatever they can in a public embarrasing show. Its hilarious yet amazing how public an og PR knowledgable folk are, I put it down to sheer brass necks. Whatever happens that ex club and the remnants that try and start up again will be tarnished more than the tainted club they originated from, and thats hard to manage.
Worst thing that can happen is the muck start in Division 1, that kills the SFL, the muck will be to blame for killing all they teams, the muck after refereeing favours all season get out division 1 and return to our league.
Celtic powered by Moneyball/Lyon, CL qualifiaction money and success wipe the floor with new wee daft ‘rangers’ while continuing to improve in Europe.
Aye
EN
WeefratheTim on 29 June, 2012 at 01:01 said:
Where do you sit in CP. sounds like a fab seat. I’m in North Stand and love my seat section 106 but yours cost more than mine.
The sfa has definitively proved itself wholly corrupt.
That should be headline news….but it’s not. Why is that?
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 29 June, 2012 at 00:44 said:
tarrant on 29 June, 2012 at 00:31 said:
I loved that.
Now,don`t take offence. :-)
None taken, because I totally fking rock.
Is there room in the world for you and Awe Naw to co-exist as Celtic supporters? Clue: the answer is yes. Because we all want what is best for Celtic. Do you need to like each other? Did somebody say something that somebody else didn;t like? Jesus, who cares?
Are the huns trying to buy their way into some cobbled-together-for-their-benefit league? Aye they fkng are – THATS what we need to be worried about. Who can do something about that? WE CAN.
Start by clicking here: tictalk@celticfc.co.uk . Type the word NO. Add more detail if you like. Click on send.