We’ve talked about the big changes needed at the end of the season for a while now, specifically in terms of the manager’s position. I was never in favour of firing Ronny midseason. By that stage the die was cast for European football, and we were nip and tuck with Aberdeen in a fight for the league.
My guess was that Ronny could deliver the league, and I expected a cup or two as well. The cups have gone – and may have been won had we changed manager months ago, but we could also have appointed the wrong caretaker (a high probability) and reduced our title prospects. The decision then was what was the greater risk to the league title. All other things being equal, sitting tight was most probably going to deliver the league.
We’re now three wins from becoming champions. Ronny is one of only two Celtic managers never to have lost a league title, and whatever disappointments there have been, he’s applied himself honestly and openly. He’s also a title winning part of our history and we need to handle our history well, even as a project concludes. Lessons from ’78 still rankle with some.
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IMHO Perennial criticism of the coach goes with the territory at CFC. Even Big Jock and the Blessed Martin were victims of jibes and moans. WGS was derided but a lot which is now directed at RD comes across as personal invective. Certainly he has made mistakes trying to get players to play a system which for some of them is beyond their capabilities.
Now, and what does that tell us. One, a coach should not ask a player to do something which he is incapable of doing. However, they should always be playing for the Jersey.
Two, players should be constantly working to improve their capabilities, attitude and commitment. Do we see signs of this?
Change of manager,per se, will not IMHO be the instant panacea which is being demanded on this blog. HH
#celticfc #celticfamily #celtic Sevco Are Ineligible For A European License, But Will Almost Certainly Get One https://t.co/97YyKCXwet
This has to be a wind up surely ?
Resolution 12 is all about the SFA granting old Rangers a licence and here we are again in the same situation and our board will remain silent to give new Rangers much needed income ?
I give up honestly it’s a total shambles.
I can’t believe that some people are trying to portray Ronny as some sort of unlucky manager.
He is nothing of the sort.
The Legia registration cock-up. The only Celtic manager never to face a league challenge from any form of “rangers”. A playing budget that is more than the rest of the league put together.
Incredibly lucky breaks in my view.
Compare that to what Tommy Burns had to contend with as Celtic manager.
Rebuilding a shambolic squad that had gone 5 years without trophies.
Trying to claw back a Hun team at the height of it’s moneybags era.
Dealing with some horrific honest mistakes. Cadete registration. Cadete goal disallowed at Ibrox at new year 1997. Tosh McKinlay outrageously sent off at Ibrox in 1996.
Being let down by the prima Donnas van Hooijdonk and di canio who spent their time trying to engineer moves to England.
The odious goram saving the Hun from defeat on numerous occasions.
Only one of those 2 guys was an unlucky Celtic manager. It sure as hell wasn’t/ isn’t Ronny Deila.
Though I will concede that tommy was blessed in not having to deal with a moneyball obsessed CEO with Dudu Dahan on speed dial.
Fan-a-tic
Sad but true, the Youth teams are playing with same set up and structure as first team currently
I actually dread to think how our teams would look and play in the future under this system
Is he not gone yet. ..
Jaysus will some one drive him to the airport before the weekend.
Get Michelle Mone in now.
She would guarantee the double. …
Dallas
I scrolled back to see what irked my friend. The pot calling the kettle black has been lifted to a new height. Unbelievable hypocrisy from the pasty poster with multiple personalities.
No Bankie will forget how he dissed this town. Not our kind of Tim.
HAMILTONTIM on 19TH APRIL 2016 7:27 PM
Macjay
What you failed to include in your earlier replies to SFTB and TET was that when I posted that the Celtic Trust wanted to run the club was the smiley I put at the end of that post. Subsequently, I’ve explained to you the mission of the Trust.
We’re not stupid Macjay, we’re acutely aware that the likelihood of any form of Trust running Celtic is a vision that will never be achieved. What we want is greater dialogue with the support and fan representation on the Plc board. That need not be a member of the Trust.
Any notion that I personally joined the Trust because of any political motivation is absolutely laughable. I joined because I saw a group who genuinely believed that Celtic should be run with our founding ethos in mind and the ideals of Brother Walfrid should be maintained.
It’s now tiresome and insulting when you continually accuse the Trust of being ‘entryists’ when it’s simply not the case. I’ve made this known to you several times on here and still you refuse to accept what are actually the facts.
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That is not my recollection.
Quite the reverse.
I remember you saying that the intention of the Trust was basically to take over the running of Celtic.
Now , I am not quoting you , but that is the gist of what you said.
There was at least one other blogger who responded by saying something along the lines of ” Now I`ve heard it all.”
Subsequently you moderated your stance to say that the intention of the Trust was fan representation on the Board.
Now , perhaps someone would care to reproduce your comment. Perhaps you did add a smiley.
However , many a true word is spoken in jest.
Please do not pretend that my anti Trust comments are personal and critical of you personally.
The Trust is the enemy , not you personally. I`m absolutely sure that you act with the best of intentions according to your lights.
If you wish to take my criticism of the Trust personally , then of course , you are at liberty to do so.
I just happen to think that your organisation is divisive , perhaps even destructive , but unquestionably harmful to Celtic.
You use this blog to tout for membership and I am perfectly entitled to outline my objections to your organisation.
The Trust is the epitome of entryism .
A small group of political agitators which infiltrates an organisation with a view to imposing THEIR ideas on that organisation irrespective of the feelings of other supporters.
Their basic aim is power. A fact confirmed by your admission which you now understandably wish to retract.
The pathetic ” reds under the beds ” distortion by S.F.T B. of what I said is beneath contempt.
I did not say the C.T.entryists were communists . Entryism does not exclusively refer to any particular political code. Hitlers fascists used the same tactic.
It is perhaps significant that the use of the word entryist should be associated by others with communism.
Methinks they doth protest too much. Or perhaps they know more than I do .
How many members do you have ?
I have to leave shortly , and I really have no wish to continue to reiterate my objections to the Trust ad nauseam , however I feel the need to protect the interests of Celtic as I see them.
And will continue to do so.
As the token Tim , I spent my student days defending Celtic to my fellow students. Never imagined I would have to do so to my fellow Tims.
WHiTS
Time for a new petition from you :-)))
Pintaguinness
Sutton and Hartson.
After one of our European ties this year, big Chris and BBJ were there together. In the hotel after the game, they were boiling at our performance. BBJ said in the morning that Chris kept him up until 4am still ranting about it.
I know he has his detractors, but he adores Celtic and if he failed it would be for lack of experience, certainly not lack of passion for the hoops.
DD
Crazy on the blog now.
First we get TD67 telling us he supported Res 12 all along.
Now we have Mr Pastry….the man of many names and personality defects, telling us we dont know how to have a reasoned debate….you call him on it, he clams up.
Muppets
Twist and Turns
I heard of that and what we don’t want is comformists
That management team would be exactly that, management.
Butsy
My two nephews at Ross County were gutted on Sunday night for that very reason. Both said the Celtic development team would have hammered that mob.
TGM
Lots of revisionism and lies lately. Why?
Agenda? Level 5?
if we’d hud Mone in that dug-oot we’d never a been papped ooot that Cup……..
DD
Yeah, our poor display aside, I’m afraid I’m not buying into the ‘ attractive’ football from that shower. Yes they pass it around, but were clueless in the final third.
Their defence is woeful, and is evidenced by the number of goals they throw away.
Two good things may come from the disaster that was Sunday
1. We get a stronger management team
2. That mob hold what they have thinking they’re fekkin Barca.
Roll on the new season…….
TGM
Noticed he grassed Kitalba to Paul earlier too. Don’t know any fae our background who would run grassin to the heidie.
A Couple of observations.
When Alan McDonald lined up Gus Hiddink, Dermot Desmond stepped in and appointed Martin O’Neill.
When Martin O’Neill left, Dermot Desmond offered the job to Gordon Strachan having spoken to him at a race meeting.
Demot Desmond, took no part in appointing Tony Mowbray (so I’m told)
Similarly with Neill Lennon and he left the CEO to appoint Ronnie.
It could well be the case that the appointment of next Celtic manager will not be left to the current board.
I have said before that I do not believe that Celtic PLC is not run properly.
There has always been far too much corporate emphasis on Peter Lawwell. He cannot be an expert on Marketing, PR, Communications, HR, Recruitment, innovation, Football management and all the other skills needed to manage a PLC let alone a PLC structure which should be absolutely focused on meeting the demands of its peculiar, unique and ready made customer base.
To have one man or one person fulfilling all of those roles is corporate madness and a recipe for failure. Now there are others at Celtic Park but I have been perosnally present when a senior employee told me that no matter what way people think of doing things, “Peter” is likely to come with a better plan and a better way of doing things.
If that is so, then those working under Peter Lawell should hang their heads in shame, but ultimately they should be shipped out and moved on.
A company with the turnover of Celtic PLC should have experts in each field at the head of each department and under the chief executive there should be two experienced and trust worthy business managers who are remunerated accordingly.
The major shareholder should know how to restructure a business and how to organise a matrix or line management system which allows departmental heads to manage properly and that includes the football manager or the head of the football department.
Real football managers will want to be in charge of the football element from top to bottom and that includes transfers.
Peter Lawwell I believe to be a very very good cost accountant. An excellent keepr of the books who will make sure that every aspect of compliance is dealt with.
However, in my humble opinion, his greatest failing is in the area of recruitment.
Football player recruitment has been patchy at best – notwithstanding the Wanyama’s. Forsters and Van Djyk’s etc.
Football Management recruitment has been a failure over the piece.
There has been a failure to recruit an experienced and front facing PR expert at Celtic park who can properly manage both press and fan base relations.
There is a lack of business innovation and I have no idea who fills that role.
Celtic TV is a fraction of what it could be as an advertising tool or a revune producing stream and those who currently run that division live in fear of an ever decreasing budget.
And there is no equivalent of a Nick Hewer or Margaret Mountford to sit as properly professional wingmen or women to the CEO.
The current chairman completely lacks the advocacy and business skills of both Brian Quinn and John Reid — both of whom had very different qualities. He is the greatest example of downgrading at Celtic Park.
If you are going to run this club as a PLC — then bloody well set it up properly and stop pissing about with it.
Celtic did not lose to a better football team on Saturday, they lost because of a degree of bad luck but it is the job of management to eradicate luck from the equation as much as they can.
Celtic lost to a better motivated and better managed group of employees from another company and because of the football department’s inadequacy.
On another day and with a better action plan from start to finish the result would have been very different.
The major shareholder is not a man to leave things to luck I believe – after all he openly admitted to funding every single political party in Ireland at one time.
It’s about time he started taking a far greater hands on approach or handing his interest over to someone who will.
Unless there is a better manager willing to except the reality of our budget constraints Deila should be given another season and if PL wants six in a row that’s what will happen. The project should continue. Assimilated tims are as fickle as huns. Hell mend them.
DD
Tell you what…..they are the worst internet imposters ever.
Can hardly string a sentence together.
They seem to think they are deflecting the criticism.
Fools.
You would get more sense from from a tea-bag:)
HH
MOONBEAMSWD on 19TH APRIL 2016 8:19 PM
I’m going to through another potential manager into the mix.
Michelle Mone
She has a knack for making diddies look great. But then she is a Tory peer – so she’ll be fitted right in.
Yaaaaaassss….2 up top at last …
Swansea City owners are due to make a massive profit with sale to Americans.
DD
We remember the disparaging comments about poor people….and the people of Clydebank.
You could not mark his neck with a blow-torch.
He thinks we are all as daft as he is.
HH
Celtic Mac
Absolute belter. Deserves a re-post:
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Celtic Mac on 19th April 2016 3:07 pm
Paul67 et al
Celtic Football Club have announced that there will be a special ceremony at the weekend.
A new statue, of Brendan Rodgers, made of bronze but with a brass neck, will be unveiled by the former Liverpool manager himself. “It is a great tribute to me, and a great likeness into the bargain, and I hope Celtic supporters the world over get a chance to pose alongside it, not too close mind you and no overposing, which is of course strictly forbidden”.
It is thought that Celtic commissioned the statue as a thank you for Brendan allowing his name to be linked with any forthcoming vacancies at the club
Cowiebhoy
I’m not overly worried about the set up.
It’s wether the coach has the personnel and ability to implement said system.
I have not seen the youths play but it has brought them success.
In this type of system you need an anchorman who can direct and dictate play.
Ours was the deadweight Bitton
The other two in centre have to have positional sense and understand when to press and when to hold.
The centre guys have to support the lone attacker
.In Brown and Johansen they have none of the above.
The two wide players have to support the full backs only Armstrong was decent at that but was not his position
I have debated with many on here about modern coaches and systems.
Most coaches struggle with the concept of possession over everything.
Possession should be divided into positive and negative zone to be fully understood.
Ronnie did not even possess the ability to implement his chosen system.
When Man utd beat Bayern in champions league Ferguson had the intelligence to know his system and players were no match for Bayerns system and players.
He sent on an additional attacker and just resorted to hammering high balls forward and scored 2 late goals to win.
The team who had dominated for 85 mins lost due to their coaches complacency in taking off two of their better players and not recognising Fergies basic tactics.
MWD/BADA
Mone deffo. I’m a sucker for big t@t@. HH
Tuneless and Clueless @ 9pm..
You need to do more research .No point trolling if you cant get the base material right.Very shoddy !
TnT
My Godson has played in direct opposition to Barry McKay in dozens of games. Could not believe the space we gave him. Calls him in ma poaket McKay. :)
I’m confused as to why everyone appears to be jumping on the Michelle Mone bandwagon.
We are overlooking the same area which has been problematic for us for as long as I can remember.
Surely we’d be better with Kim Kardashian? A solid rear is what we need first and foremost.
Chris1888
MACJAY1 FOR NEIL LENNON on 19TH APRIL 2016 9:43 PM
HAMILTONTIM on 19TH APRIL 2016 7:27 PM
Macjay
What you failed to include in your earlier replies to SFTB and TET was that when I posted that the Celtic Trust wanted to run the club was the smiley I put at the end of that post. Subsequently, I’ve explained to you the mission of the Trust.
We’re not stupid Macjay, we’re acutely aware that the likelihood of any form of Trust running Celtic is a vision that will never be achieved. What we want is greater dialogue with the support and fan representation on the Plc board. That need not be a member of the Trust.
Any notion that I personally joined the Trust because of any political motivation is absolutely laughable. I joined because I saw a group who genuinely believed that Celtic should be run with our founding ethos in mind and the ideals of Brother Walfrid should be maintained.
It’s now tiresome and insulting when you continually accuse the Trust of being ‘entryists’ when it’s simply not the case. I’ve made this known to you several times on here and still you refuse to accept what are actually the facts.
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That is not my recollection.
Quite the reverse.
I remember you saying that the intention of the Trust was basically to take over the running of Celtic.
Now , I am not quoting you , but that is the gist of what you said.
There was at least one other blogger who responded by saying something along the lines of ” Now I`ve heard it all.”
Subsequently you moderated your stance to say that the intention of the Trust was fan representation on the Board.
Now , perhaps someone would care to reproduce your comment. Perhaps you did add a smiley.
However , many a true word is spoken in jest.
Please do not pretend that my anti Trust comments are personal and critical of you personally.
The Trust is the enemy , not you personally. I`m absolutely sure that you act with the best of intentions according to your lights.
If you wish to take my criticism of the Trust personally , then of course , you are at liberty to do so.
I just happen to think that your organisation is divisive , perhaps even destructive , but unquestionably harmful to Celtic.
You use this blog to tout for membership and I am perfectly entitled to outline my objections to your organisation.
The Trust is the epitome of entryism .
A small group of political agitators which infiltrates an organisation with a view to imposing THEIR ideas on that organisation irrespective of the feelings of other supporters.
Their basic aim is power. A fact confirmed by your admission which you now understandably wish to retract.
The pathetic ” reds under the beds ” distortion by S.F.T B. of what I said is beneath contempt.
I did not say the C.T.entryists were communists . Entryism does not exclusively refer to any particular political code. Hitlers fascists used the same tactic.
It is perhaps significant that the use of the word entryist should be associated by others with communism.
Methinks they doth protest too much. Or perhaps they know more than I do .
How many members do you have ?
I have to leave shortly , and I really have no wish to continue to reiterate my objections to the Trust ad nauseam , however I feel the need to protect the interests of Celtic as I see them.
And will continue to do so.
As the token Tim , I spent my student days defending Celtic to my fellow students. Never imagined I would have to do so to my fellow Tims.
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I can assure you Macjay that the post you referenced had a smilie at the end. My subsequent posts, and the mission statement highlighted by SFTB earlier on, clearly state our aims and objectives. So to clarify, I haven’t ‘moderated’ anything and I’m most certainly not trying to ‘retract’ any of my comments, then or since, on this subject.
You are quite entitled to hold whatever opinion you wish of the Trust but what is deeply insulting it to continually insist that the Trust is some sort of politically motivated animal. To claim so is a lie particularly when I’ve stated, repeatedly, that it is nothing of the sort. By all means criticise is if you believe any of our actions are ill judged or even foolish, however, to claim that you ‘know’ the motivating factor is simply ridiculous.
Yours in Celtic, Trust me :-)
HT/Chris
Might need to go down the Kardashian route. Michelle Mone apparently cannot take it on right now as she has her hands full.
BRTH, the more I practise the luckier I get, as in the better I am the less I have to rely on luck.
I think a golfer said that, although I paraphrase.
My only post today, work beckons.
Good post btw.
Trevino perhaps?
And so season 2016 / 2017 looks like a new start for us..
Starting from new.. starting afresh.. new Manager / Management Team.. new players.. new regime.. All needing time to fit and gel and ‘get it’. And this will cost money and take ‘a 2 year plan’. And where will we be in 2 years? The Supporters I mean?? Still turning up in numbers??
I cant believe we are in this position.. I cant believe European football is a billion miles away, and I mean Europa League.. the C L is even further away.
Please tell me I’m wildly pessimistic and help and a bright future is around the corner.
Yes, I’ll renew my season book.. but it will be through a sense of duty rather than anticipation.
Hail Hail.. K T F??
If a new coach/manager is appointed what will be the criteria for judging him (assuming it would be a male in these days of political correctness) as successful. If, God forbid, we were to lose a game against the G51 newbies who will be the first on here to demand that he be sacked?
No doubt Ronny Deila has made mistakes but the personal invective used against him is unworthy of Celtic supporters. We are all hurt and angry and there needs to be a considered “post-mortem” but, most important a thorough review of the running of the club and a remedial programme instigated.
Celtic has to decide whether to rear its own players or go into the transfer market where it will have to be a lot more savvy than up to now. If the former there may be some off days as the youngster learn their trade. Will all on here have the necessary patience?? HH
It’s set in stone that RD wasn’t the man for the job but the ritual Hun like abuse and revisionism of anything he has achieved, whether you like it or not is pathetic.
Make your mind up, if all the games we’ve won were solely down to the players then the league is in the bag, RD in charge or not.
Think about this bhoys.
What new managerial appointment would drive the Huns doolally?
Its got to be Neil Lennon and Chris Sutton….the Huns will spontaneously combust:)
The zombies will go mental:)
HH
Okay, one isn’t enough!
Macjay, may I suggest, next time you are in Glasgow, attend a Trust meeting, I’ll buy you a beer.
It may well inform your opinion.
I’m not asking you to join, just go along, you will meet Tims.
Good ones at that.
I have been a member for years, although not an active one.
With people like Chris working for greater accountability, inclusion band transparency we are well served.
Tims United.
HH.
theglasgowcelticway on 19th April 2016 6:49 pm
KITALBA
Understand however,losing to ICT at Parkhead a week after surrendering a two goal lead to Hearts also at Parkhead was the catalyst for the MoN era.
*Tommy Boyd, Lubo and a young Colin Healey were the only players in the side against ICT that survived when MON took over, Viduka leaving was by choice however as Martin wanted to retain him.
Also of the following including “legends” that showed up on May 22, 2005, Douglas, McNamara, Bobo, Varga and Agathe; Petrov, Lenny and Thompson; Sutton, Hartson and Bellamy, only 4 were to feature in WGS’s Celtic revival although to be fair to Bobo it wasn’t his or Gordy’s choice
Rumours are true then! Michelle in charge for Sunday’s game.
http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/00987/SNA16MONEA-682_987595a.jpg
Mone the Hoops!!
HH
CRC