We’ve talked about the big changes needed at the end of the season for a while now, specifically in terms of the manager’s position. I was never in favour of firing Ronny midseason. By that stage the die was cast for European football, and we were nip and tuck with Aberdeen in a fight for the league.
My guess was that Ronny could deliver the league, and I expected a cup or two as well. The cups have gone – and may have been won had we changed manager months ago, but we could also have appointed the wrong caretaker (a high probability) and reduced our title prospects. The decision then was what was the greater risk to the league title. All other things being equal, sitting tight was most probably going to deliver the league.
We’re now three wins from becoming champions. Ronny is one of only two Celtic managers never to have lost a league title, and whatever disappointments there have been, he’s applied himself honestly and openly. He’s also a title winning part of our history and we need to handle our history well, even as a project concludes. Lessons from ’78 still rankle with some.
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An Teach Solais on 19th April 2016 10:23 pm
Ronny is not getting sacked for one result, he has been forgiven many but we cannot be blind for ever, a serious of failures has only one outcome
TBJ has no trust in the PLC on 19th April 2016 6:17 pm
Paul
Can you clarify the yellow card rule including how many a poster has to receive before a red is shown
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I sometimes wonder if it’s the Bougerra-Robbie Keane approach.
An Teach Solais,
Could you not have posted that sooner, now my attempts at English look infantile.
Succinct and on the button.
TTR
If you’re lurking, Hearts away tickets are up.
TGM
Listening to the new album by Iggy Pop, Post Pop Depression. Inspired by USA’s greatest poet Allan Ginsberg. Nice green haze atmosphere here. ;)
Feck the hypocrites and liars and ignore them I think.
HT
Eddie and I are also looking for 2 Away end tickets for Liverpool v Villarreal.
I am sure you can work your magic mate. ;))))
Oh and last night’s meeting!
Nicola Sturgeon has stated that she’s happy to review the OBaF Act and to listen to evidence of criminalisation!
Now I’m not naive enough to think that this revelation is not reflective of the impending elections, but it does mean we now have something to hold her accountable for.
MacJay
Whats wrong with a board composed of anarchist/surrealists, marxists, and socialists?
Couldnt do worse than the current Tory PLC mob:)
Might even get the Living Wage implemented, and a chance to use that mobile guillotine i found on Maryhill Rd, just outside the Polis station:)
HH
DD
Sod off, I only deal in Celtic tickets! :-)
I’ll ask but I think it’s unlikely mate.
GO TELL THE SPARTIM
Thank you for the compliment. Usually I get told that I am talking p**h lol.
I accept that there have been a number of times that the tactics have not worked but our players should be capable of doing basic things like closing down opponents.
Human nature likes simple solutions to problems. It tends to blame a victim for failures. All that I am trying to say is that our present predicament is, IMHO, not the fault of one person and that simply replacing the manager is not the answer. HH
DD
Down on the farm…im listening to Led Zepp…..Jimmy Paige cranking it up.
The OG has descended from the skies.
Hope the wee trolls are not cold under that bridge tonight:)
Im nice and warm:)
HH
jimcon on 19th April 2016 6:31 pm
Generally speaking I think the players we have are good enough we just need a manager with tactical nous and the ability to get the best from his players. Perhaps one or two shrewd additions.
*I was one of the more optimistic supporters that welcomed Ronny and the 5 year plan that seemed to be put in place changing from moneyball to rearing our own similar to the Kelly Kids in the mid 50’s.
So I’m a disappointed that it didnae pan out. I’m still hopeful that the concept will still be in place else we ditch the development side of the club and just buy other teams players.
The KK experiment looked to be on track with some great performances including drubbings of the young huns until Jock left.
Disappointment set in with young players failing tae develop further and others like wee Bertie, Eric Smith and Paddy Crerand being forced to leave due to mismanagement and board interference.
On Jock’s return, fortunately for us, some of his youngsters were still there although just prior to this big Billy was eyeing White Hart Lane and Bobby Murdoch Oz, the rest is history.
It should be noted though that in the summer of ’65 he allegedly gave Bob Kelly a list of players that were deemed surplus to requirements one of which was a wee curret heided winger with a suspect temperament.
Now I’m not advocating bringing Ronny back in 5 years but I would hesitate to dump players that have not fulfilled their promises….yet.
Hamiltontim
The smiley. I take your word for it.
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“Politically motivated animal ?”
Oh,no?
Is the ” living wage ” a political issue ?
Is support of the I.R.A. ,or failure to condemn those who do a political issue ?
Is a rally in George Sq. about the “kettling ” incident a political issue ?
Is the O.B.A. F. a political issue? Has the Trust indicated it`s objection to it ?
Has Jeanette, your leading light, indicated any political preferences in the past ?
Has the Trust condemned the G.B.`s upside down banners referring to our previous chairman related to the war in Iraq ?
Does the Trust have any supporters of the Conservative Party as members ? ……………:-)
Do you wonder why ?
Mate.
Why deny the bleedin` obvious ?
“They expect to win the title now as they’ve lost two cup runs. Fans will be putting them really under pressure.”
The above was from one of our opponents this coming Sunday. The second sentence, combined with so many of the posts on here, surely confirms the `great supporters `reputation as a thing of the past . I am more disappointed by the response to the defeat than I am by the defeat itself. If a time ever arises where most supporters are talking positively about a successful Celtic, I will remember these past few days.
Goodnight all,
JJ
Chris 1888
Kim Kardashian ??
No chance ,had enough of those foreign coaches with their fancy ideas
At least Michelle knows the goldfish bowl of Glasgow well enough
Deep fried mars bars every day at Lennoxtown
THE GREEN MAN SAYS SACK THE BOARD on 19TH APRIL 2016 10:34 PM
MacJay
Whats wrong with a board composed of anarchist/surrealists, marxists, and socialists?
Couldnt do worse than the current Tory PLC mob:)
Might even get the Living Wage implemented, and a chance to use that mobile guillotine i found on Maryhill Rd, just outside the Polis station:)
HH
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I don`t care about anybody`s politics.
None of my business.
Just don`t impose them on Celtic because you will thereby alienate some of our cohort.
As the C.T. demonstrate.
Really got to head out.
Let`s talk Celtic.
Later :-)
BRTH,
Good insightful analysis. As you mention Bankier is a sign of the times. Who put him in place—- doubt he moves in Dublin 4 circles so it must have been PL.
RD is another appointment that is out of his depth. PL decision.
The Managment team below PL is invisible with Public Relations viewed as a form of leprosy. As such everything flows upwards and PL just loves it. It’s a control freaks dream.
As the team has been downsized the management has been dumbed down to. As per the analogy of South Africa detailed last night he has made himself like Zuma…indispensable. There has been no talent management and no threats to his leadership and control of the club.
He is a clever man and this manoeuvring is by design not by accident.
One element I miss from your post is the missed opportunity of the last 4 years and the ongoing downsizing of expectations and club in general ( with one notable exception).
All told a basis of a leader article for the big picture reflecting the AS IS status before developing the TO BE model.
Whats wrong with a board composed of anarchist/surrealists, marxists, and socialists?
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I understand that that is toungue n cheek, but wtf has that got to do with Celtic. Who gives a flying f@@k what shade or colour our board is provided they do a good job for Celtic.
And I doubt that Brother Walfred’s vision or beliefs would be compatible with the above.
HH
HT
I emailed Villarreal ticket office wi a begging letter, also the Villarreal Celtic Submari CSC.
Fingers and toes crossed. :)
GreenPinata
You got it right first time….fun, nothing more.
Lighten up…you know im a sarcastaholic:)
HH
Lucky Cody
When looking at the last four years one has to ask not if they have been successful but have you made the most of your opportunities and resources!
I think the answer would have to be no.
Doc I believe it was Gary Player who said the more I practice the luckier I get. Could be wrong though !
An Teach Solais on 19th April 2016 10:23 pm
If a new coach/manager is appointed what will be the criteria for judging him (assuming it would be a male in these days of political correctness) as successful. If, God forbid, we were to lose a game against the G51 newbies who will be the first on here to demand that he be sacked?
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Qualify for the CL every season.
Win the treble every season.
Never make a bad signing.
Never play one up front.
Always have a plan B. And C and maybe D.
Always play Kris Commons.
Get rid of Kris Commons.
Errrrrr……
DD-is there not bhoys on here involved with the Celtic/Villareal alliance? Good luck.
MACJAY1 FOR NEIL LENNON on 19TH APRIL 2016 10:38 PM
Hamiltontim
The smiley. I take your word for it.
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“Politically motivated animal ?”
Oh,no?
Is the ” living wage ” a political issue ?
Is support of the I.R.A. ,or failure to condemn those who do a political issue ?
Is a rally in George Sq. about the “kettling ” incident a political issue ?
Is the O.B.A. F. a political issue? Has the Trust indicated it`s objection to it ?
Has Jeanette, your leading light, indicated any political preferences in the past ?
Has the Trust condemned the G.B.`s upside down banners referring to our previous chairman related to the war in Iraq ?
Does the Trust have any supporters of the Conservative Party as members ? ……………:-)
Do you wonder why ?
Mate.
Why deny the bleedin` obvious ?
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Macjay
I’m tempted, very tempted, to leave the above post without comment or reply from me, I think it’s very revealing! :-)
The Living Wage is a moral and ethical issue. Paying it would be in line with Walfrid’s principles, that, and that alone is the motivating factor.
The IRA?
Whit?!
When have The Trust ever commented in support of the IRA?
Have any other supporter organisation done so?
The OBaF Act is politically motivated certainly but it has, as its target, football supporters. Any right thinking person, who has any knowledge of how it’s led to the criminalisation of mostly young men would be in complete agreement with our opposition to it.
The GB speak for themselves and always will.
I’m at a loss as to why we should comment on their ‘upside down’ banner.
Again, did any other supporter organisations comment?
I’m going to be honest Macjay, I hear many, many more political comments from you than I’ve ever heard from Jeanette! :-)
Oh and I have no knowledge whether we have any Conservative members. Strangely, political affiliation isn’t asked. The only criteria for membership is to be a Tim.
Night all.
BB
Angel Gabriel posted about a thread on huddleboard about tickets for Anfield. Canny log on there.
HT
Before u go give crum a shout on the tickets for DD he has good contacts
HH
HT
Any chance of 2 tickets for the Noel Gallagher gig on Thursday night
Macjay
I’m tempted, very tempted, to leave the above post without comment or reply from me, I think it’s very revealing! :-)
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Be my guest. I don`t really need the accolades , but if you insist.
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The Living Wage is a moral and ethical issue. Paying it would be in line with Walfrid’s principles, that, and that alone is the motivating factor.
No it`s not .It`s a political wedge issue.
Living wage………..A disincentive to employ. An incentive to retrench.
And an invitation to an external body to determine Celtic`s wage structure.
You dare to speak for Bro.Walfrid .
WOW.
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“The GB speak for themselves and always will.”
Jeanette……….George Sq.
Is she a member of the G.B.?
Or just the mentor?
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When have The Trust ever commented in support of the IRA?
Why not?
Big Jock did. And you have. Was that without your C.T. hat on ?
Really. Gorrago.
Hail Hail
Butsy
Thanks for that shout pal.
Foxy at 10pm, fair point, somebody had to say it. Ronny could not succeed with Collins and Kennedy as his ‘assistants’. If they get the heave-ho, and if there’s no immediately available better option than Ronny, it would be sensible to retain him and let him appoint his own people.
Maybe.
I’m not thinking straight until the League is won!
Aw naw, here they come, looming ever larger in our rear view mirror, the Hunnish hordes, with their supremacism and entitlement. How did that ever happen? Well might have summit to do with our CEO putting the car into full throttle reverse these past 4 years….
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South Of Tunis on 19th April 2016 10:11 pm
Tuneless and Clueless @ 9pm.
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You need to do more research .No point trolling if you cant get the base material right.Very shoddy !
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O-U-C-H !! :-(
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“King Of The High Castle”
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Since All The Music Is Available Oan The Internet Anyways….
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Which Was Once Part Of The Caliphate.
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:-
Sicily Is Blessed With Churches….
As Well As The Biggest Mosque In Europe…
So The Faithful Would Be Well Accommodated..
Without Any New-Build Required.
(thumbsup?)
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BRTH,
Yes, It was Gary Player.
Macjay, The Politics thing works both ways. There is no doubt that a large section of the Celtic Support feel a strong allegiance to those who fought for Irish Freedom. I would also say that the vast majority of Irish Celtic Supporters I know would be more Republican orientated then those who follow EPL for example. Apart from the Irish Politics I would say that these same people tend to be more left wing in their General Political beliefs as well.
There are very natural historical reasons why this situation exists, I’ll spare you the analysis but you know Irish & Celtic History as well as I do.
If the Green Brigade do make a Statement with a Banner it is construed by you of imposing their view on other Celtic Supporters, if they are prevented from making a Statement it is construed by them as having someone else’s opinion imposed on them.
I myself hold very strong Political views and did for most of my life support the physical force movement in Ireland, your attitude is that these people are murdering bastards. You may well find my views reprehensible which is your right but you haven;t walked in my shoes or more importantly in the shoes of men like Macanbheatha & Big Bones to name just two but yet you feel it’s OK to refer to them as murdering bastards.
I have never sang a Political song at a Celtic Game, I have never tried to use my Celtic connections to promote my views, if there is a debate on here I’ll give my view the very same as you do. There is absolutely nothing different in what HT or I do or say compared to what you do or say. You have a view which you are entitled to, we may have an alternative view at times but that is OK too.
Neither of us can claim the soul of Celtic,, It’s a broad Church and so it should be. To you the IRA may have been murderers and the British Army & Security Forces the good guys but others might see it the other way round. Our views are shaped by our life experiences and its as simple as that.
For the record I now consider that the war is over and I am a very strong supporter & advocate of the Peace Process, however that does not mean that I and I suspect HT are prepared to turn our back on our History.
Post very long winded I know but trying to make the point that imposition of views is a 2 sided coin,
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My Dear Macjay
Heard The News Fae Spain..?
Their New Presidente Is Gonna Abolish The Traditional Siesta….
In The Interests Of Productivity…
Then He’s Gonna Nationalize All Thae Illegal Caves In Andalucia…
An’ Deport All Yon Marxist Entryist Desperados,,,, .
& Their DEVIL DUGS Tae !!
Then He’ll Build A WALL….
A HUGE WALL….
Tae Keep Them Fae Sneakin’ BACK In..!
Ah Like His $tyle…No ?
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Serious point. I dread to think what the crowd reaction will be if Ross County score first on Saturday. This radio silence from the club potentially adding to a tinderbox atmosphere. It won’t be dead man walking Ronny that’s the target if it goes Pete Tong on Saturday. Probably a combo of Pedro and the unpopular players. Wee timid GMS for example, who Ronny will probably play at centre half as part of his tactical masterplan.