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It must cause some cognitive dissonance for Hearts and Partick Thistle to use the excuse that as the Court of Session refused to hear their claim against the SPFL, they are not prepared to allow the subsequent arbitration panel’s judgement to be published.

In a joint statement, the clubs wrote: “Hearts and Partick Thistle always wanted this matter to be heard in open court in the interest of total transparency.  If the SPFL had not sought to have that court action sisted for arbitration then all hearings would have taken place in the public domain, including any necessary examination of witnesses, consideration of documentary evidence and full legal submissions.

“We do not believe sharing the judgement on its own would be appropriate.”

We are deep in Trump-populist territory here.  The SPFL insisted the rules were followed and the Court of Session agreed, neither the League nor the Court had any choice in the matter.

The clubs’ statement goes on: “The SPFL went so far as to tell the member clubs that if they even wanted sight of their Answers to the Court of Session petition, they needed to enter the court proceedings.”  They did not add that the SPFL were legally obliged to restrict distribution of Court submissions to petitioners.

The arbitration panel’s judgement is the only document produced; this is the only item that can be disclosed. All parties need to agree to disclosure, the SPFL, Dundee United, Raith Rovers and Cove Rangers all gave permission, while Hearts and Thistle – the losers, declined.

The rules state that is the end of the matter, no one from the winning side has any complaints about disclosure rules being enforced by the losers.  So why are Fran and Anna still digging themselves into a deeper hole?  “In the interests of total transparency”, they wanted the SPFL and Court of Session to conspire to break League rules and as that did not happen, they want zero transparency.

Is it any wonder Hearts finished well below Hamilton and Ross County, while Partick finished 10 points adrift of Arbroath with these two in charge?  A period of self-reflection might reveal these two were significantly culpable in their clubs demise, and are wholly responsible for whatever punishment is handed out for breaking the rules by going to the Court of Session.

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  1. THE_HUDDLE on 4TH AUGUST 2020 12:10 PM

     

    JOBO BALDIE on 4TH AUGUST 2020 11:49 AM

     

     

    Some of us gave Scott Brown one of our 3 votes on Sunday ;-)

     

     

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    Personally think you should limit it to 1 vote per match

  2. Anyone waiting on new kit

     

     

    2 tops and training tops just just arrived for my wee bhoys

     

    All badges intact :-)

     

    which is in contrast to what Etims have been posting about new castore tops

  3. BIG WAVY @ ages ago

     

     

    I think when you’ve finished of as a Champion for the ninth time in a row and remain as fit as you were

     

    In March, you’ll start and play in all the early games as club captains do. Use sparingly? cruising at home

     

    against Hamilton might have been a good time to withdraw him, but for whatever reason NFL left him on.

     

     

    The tough European midfields will be different, its just that I think Brown and Ntcham is an apples n’ pairs situation, and Christie or Calmac get the nod in the position Ntcham plays so well.

     

     

    I too hope we rebuff any suitors for Ntcham, and would like to see him in a Celtic shirt more often if he’s kept, tough job getting into the Celtic midfield and some fans want us to sign David Turnbull?

     

     

    6 MF Nir Bitton

     

    8 MF Scott Brown

     

    12 MF Ismaila Soro

     

    17 MF Ryan Christie

     

    18 MF Tom Rogic

     

    19 MF Mikey Johnston

     

    20 MF Maryan Shved

     

    21 MF Olivier Ntcham

     

    42 MF Callum McGregor

     

    52 MF Ewan Henderson

     

    41 MF Scott Robertson

     

    28 MF Luca Connell

     

    49 MF James Forrest

     

    27 MF Mo El Younoussi

  4. BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 4TH AUGUST 2020 12:18 PM

     

     

    Brown needs the minutes right now. He missed pre-season games as an injury precaution.

     

     

    I doubt he’s fully up to speed.

  5. Were I a supporter of either Hearts or Thistle, I would have very little confidence in those running my Club.

     

     

    The Huddle:

     

    `Personally think you should limit it to 1 vote per match`

     

     

    I struggle enough only having three choices !

     

     

    Cheerio for now

  6. I agree, three motm picks per game is a great way of doing it, otherwise I would be just as well sending out a weekly block email to Jobo with the subject line saying:

     

     

    ‘Calum McGregor’

     

     

    B-)

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  8. THE_HUDDLE on 4TH AUGUST 2020 12:10 PM

     

    JOBO BALDIE on 4TH AUGUST 2020 11:49 AM

     

     

    Some of us gave Scott Brown one of our 3 votes on Sunday ;-)

     

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    Personally think you should limit it to 1 vote per match.

     

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    Totally disagree. I think it should remain as it is. E.g. On Sunday,Jermie Fringpong was my Mom, however we had to acknowledge Odsonne Edouard for his fantastic hat trick.

     

     

    Regardless, many thanks to Jobo for the time and effort he puts in.

     

     

    HH.

  9. Just listed to talksport over the past couple of days. I wonder if they regret mccoist. Toe curling stuff. Miles out his depth in any subject, slabbering and stuttering is fine on Clyde but I would have thought they would have higher standards. He just doesn’t get debate or adult conversation. Complete embarrassment

     

     

    KLV

  10. “That Scott Brown is finished”

     

    Is he,Aye.

     

     

    When the day comes for the legend that is Broony,to hang up his boots,the only ones rejoicing will be the Bigoted scum from across the City.

     

    Oh,and maybe a few of our own,telling us all ” He should have done it a few years ago with a”Told you all”look on their face.For Gods sake,give the man some credit,and let him Captain the team to 10 in a row in peace.How many times does he have to confound the doubters.

  11. Cheers BourneSouprecipe

     

     

    Thanks for that. It’s not an easy answer. I remember a declining Gerrard and Rodgers fallout at Liverpool and there was an article about how Klopp used Milner to close out games for him last season. I’ve little worries about SPFL but in the small margins territory of Europe there’s a horrible chance we could be sitting here post-match berating Scott for a level he can’t physically reach now against better and younger opposition.

     

     

    HH

  12. My Apologies if i offended with my attempt at humour, Both my parents are Irish and all four grandparents, all I was trying to do was put a little smile on peoples faces during this tough time but obviously my humour is different to some others. Again no intention of mine to offend.HH

  13. TURKEYBHOY on 4TH AUGUST 2020 12:45 PM

     

    “That Scott Brown is finished”

     

     

    Is he,Aye.

     

     

    When the day comes for the legend that is Broony,to hang up his boots,the only ones rejoicing will be the Bigoted scum from across the City.

     

     

    Oh,and maybe a few of our own,telling us all ” He should have done it a few years ago with a”Told you all”look on their face.For Gods sake,give the man some credit,and let him Captain the team to 10 in a row in peace.How many times does he have to confound the doubters.

     

     

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    Exhibit A in the ‘why we can’t talk about Scott’ school of polarised views.

  14. Dont know if anyone has watched the ,Eurovision,The Story Of Fire Saga,movie.Brilliant send up of the Contest,with Will Ferrel and Rachel Mc Adam starring.Their is a wonderful song in it for Jeremy Frimpong,called Ya Ya Ding Dong.They play it early,and at the end.Great chorus.Give it a listen.Movie is quite good as well.

  15. PAPAJOE55 on 4TH AUGUST 2020 12:50 PM

     

    My Apologies if i offended with my attempt at humour, Both my parents are Irish and all four grandparents, all I was trying to do was put a little smile on peoples faces during this tough time but obviously my humour is different to some others. Again no intention of mine to offend.HH

     

     

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    Apology accepted but if I may, perpetuating the stereotype that the Irish are stupid is racist fella. Nothing to do with my lack of sense of humour. I’m Irish living in England. I get this constantly. The residents of FF or the DUP would be howling with laughter if it’s an audience you’re looking for. Just think about that for a moment.

  16. Big Wavy,

     

    You can talk about the subject all you like,I will still say the same.If he is playing the same after 7 or 8 games,by all means feel free to fill your boots.If he is back to something like his best,a lot of humble pie to be eaten.

     

    After all he has done,he deserves every chance.

  17. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Seem to remember reading the same stuff about Broonie this time last year, the year before that…….and the year before that….give the guy a chance to get a few more games under his belt, he has earned that,at least…..

  18. Three MOTM choices works well for me. Sometimes difficult to choose, Edoaurd was a stand out on Sunday, second and third more difficult. I went for Taylor and McGregor such as it was.

  19. Big Georges Fan Club - Hail, Hail, Wee Oscar on

    PAPAJOE55 on 4TH AUGUST 2020 12:50 PM

     

    My Apologies if i offended with my attempt at humour, Both my parents are Irish and all four grandparents, all I was trying to do was put a little smile on peoples faces during this tough time but obviously my humour is different to some others. Again no intention of mine to offend.HH

     

     

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    With full respect to Big Wavy and others – I had a wee chuckle at that joke. I do understand the point re; stereotyping – much humour relies on that to an extent.

     

     

    It is a strange thing that, in my village at least, we say some fairly brutal things to each other – “slagging” – meant and taken in humour. However, the same words would prompt an entirely different reaction if said by someone outside our own social group.

     

     

    So – my pal from The Plains could say something very ‘offensive’ about one of my background characteristics and I’d laugh because they are from the same social group. However, woe betide someone from Clarkston saying exactly the same thing.

     

     

    HH

     

    BGFC

  20. Melbourne Mick on

    Hello again all you young rebels.

     

     

    I was one of the others who picked Broony in my top3, my first two

     

    were Eddie and young Frimpers, the next was between another 3

     

    players, but right at the end that big marauding striker had shouldered

     

    Ajer off the ball, but who got back and he tried the shoulder again, nae

     

    chance, that got Scott my vote and that’s why Lenny makes him first pick

     

    and captain.

     

    H.H. Mick

  21. I feel with 3 choices, fans stick in their favourite rather than picking the top 3, of course it’s all opinions in the end but if someone picked Brown in their top against Hamilton then I think they’d be hard pressed to justify his inclusion based on his performance.

     

     

    Not having a go at Brown here just using him as an example after Sundays game.

     

     

    If they can pick one MOM at the ground or TV then it shouldn’t be too tough for us

  22. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Astounding staff Pablo.

     

     

    Respect.

     

     

    “We are deep in Trump-populist territory here”

     

     

    Worse still, one of the primary fuels for the engine that drives Trump style populism – Doubling Down – is so successful when engaging the hard of thinking that many organisations are now following suit.

     

     

    I drew one significant comfort from the article ….

     

     

    No way would the Celtic support swallow this kind of BS from those running the club.

     

     

    We’d see through it in a heartbeat.

     

     

    Hail hail

     

     

    Keep The Faith

  23. BGF

     

    I had to carry out a disciplinary hearing which involved a young Asian woman complaining about a work colleague’s use of a certain phrase towards her. However during my investigation it transpired that a very similar phrase was used by another colleague towards her that, because of her close working relationship with him she accepted it as banter.

  24. Might the huns duff taps no’ be a good reason to pursue the illusive source of thur kash and lack thereof………..?

  25. Big Georges Fan Club - Hail, Hail, Wee Oscar on

    Hi Gene – yes, same sort of point I think. Circumstances, relationships, social groupings, intent, etc., all come into understanding situations like that. Relatively easy to apply a very strict rule to all circumstances, but there can be unintended consequences too. The offensive behaviour at football act had good intentions (possibly) but the policing of it was…subjective.

     

     

    HH

     

    BGFC

  26. BGFC

     

     

    I suspect one of the biggest unintended consequences is the continuation of racism in our societies. Call your close circle out. You’ll lose some but the good ones will reflect positively.

  27. BGFC

     

    In isolation the chap would have been dismissed – unintended consequences indeed.

  28. Ref the mongrels from Ipox – I see that they’re being linked heavily with a move for Ex Leeds Utd player Kemar Roofe ( this in addition to South African player from Amiens )…..

     

     

    Unless I’ve missed it they’ve sold no-one to bring any funds in, and presume that’s the 3month agreement surrounding management/player wage deferral was “up” at end of July……

     

     

    Appreciate that they might still have a large chunk of season ticket renewal monies at their disposal but find myself questioning ( again ) – how are they keeping the lights on at this present moment in time – especially as their accounts suggested that they needed £10 million to reach end of last season…..

     

     

    Hope that our board ( and others like Aberdeen / Hibs / St Johnstone etc ) are expressing concerns behind closed doors…..

     

     

    These barstewards will do anything to de-rail our chase for 10……

     

     

    Tradamus Lampada !!🤔

  29. Celtic have been linked with James McCarthy…

     

     

    I just don’t get it.

     

     

    James signed for Crystal Palace last summer, played nearly every game for them and by all accounts was one of their better players.

     

     

    I’d be surprised if Palace want to move him on. The report linking Celtic also provides 4 other EPL clubs with an interest.

     

     

    So Celtic are supposed to sign an EPL player with 2 years left on his deal and offer a comparable package to 4 other EPL clubs?

     

     

    I don’t think so.

  30. Tontine Tim/Melbourne Mick/(sorry forgot the other one,)

     

     

    Glad a wee video brought back happy memories. I love that run down the Leven. Now I have the history (that rings a bell) I will appreciate it more.

     

     

    Don’t want this to become Cycling Quack News but I have another video that runs the length of Great Western Road from Amen Corner to Cowcaddens. As always, with music.

     

    I’ll put it up in a while if it doesn’t offend.

     

     

    AoW

  31. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    CharlieBhoy – Lol.

     

     

    Essentially, £3.25m per month on players wages were deferred across April, May, June plus more soft loans (not huge – couple of million max from existing directors) bridged the gap.

     

     

    Cue July – season ticket money being sloshed all over the shop like there is no tomorrow.

     

     

    Ever decreasing circles, tightening noose etc etc.

     

     

    Fewer and fewer places to go for cash.

     

     

    Season ticket renewals in January?

     

     

    Chargeable schemes for thick nut fans to sign up to go on a waiting list to register to get prioritisation in a new pilot membership scheme.

     

     

    Dick Turpin stuff.

     

     

    Sit back and enjoy ☺️

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