Never step into a great man’s shoes, Nadir

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Remember Henri Camara?  Martin O’Neill paid a significant loan fee to sign him 10 years ago, in the considerable wake of Henrik Larsson.  Henri flopped and soon lost his place in the team but the weight of responsibility thrust upon his frame was considerable.  No one could come close to filling the gap left in the Celtic team.

Nadir Ciftci would do well to consider whose shoes he’s stepping into at Celtic.  Last summer’s striker signings, John Guidetti and Stefan Scepovic could hardly muster a start the second half of the season.  Leigh Griffiths, who arrived 18 months ago, got the striker’s gig most weeks, but Leigh came to Celtic with as illustrious a heritage as Nadir.

Never step into a great man’s shoes, but Nadir’s not doing that.  This is the perfect time for a striker to join Celtic, I hope he has the appetite.

I see the great and the good in the media are flogging lyrical at the prospect of a prodigy arriving from Madrid.  None of this has come from Celtic.  The player may become available at some point but I reckon it remains a hard task convincing Real his immediate future should lie in Glasgow.

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  1. antipodean red on

    thompsontwin,

     

     

    A lot of posters here already think you’re revolting :-)

     

     

    AR

  2. The Green Man on

    BMCUWP

     

     

    A massive sink-hole incident of epic proportions…or maybe even a compulsory carbolic soap neck washing for ra berz, followed by a six month stint in the local chapel.

     

    My auld granny would have been all for washing their mouths out with soap as well:)

     

     

    HH

  3. foghorn leghorn on

    “and had Salmond & co not frightened English Labour voters ”

     

     

    I agree, wearing a scary mask then running up behind people and shouting “BOO” when they turn round was really childish behaviour from ‘Salmond & co’.

     

     

    I can understand why that would make sensitive people change their voting intentions.

  4. The Green Man on

    If we do sign Odegaard….they can stick him on top of the stadium, the glow from his tan should heat the East End for at least a year:)

     

     

     

    HH

  5. Canamalar@14.58

     

    If the Clubs could see that it’s the old short term pain/long term gain thing making them less dependent on an ever decreasing Sky deal (financially) which is more onerous in terms of what it demands of the Clubs then good sense might prevail.

     

    Anyway HH Aff out to see the Minions.

  6. Honestly can’t see HMRC winning in Edinburgh. You should only take the establishment to task in London. Away from the lodges.

     

     

    As for the SNP scaring off voters. The tories used the SNP to scaremonger wishy washy voters. Last time round they voted Lib Dems and felt apathetic. It was their central electoral policy.

  7. Gearoid1998,

     

    I don’t think clubs living hand to mouth can afford to make such a sacrifice, I expect there would need to be an agreements that the bigger clubs who could afford it take less for a few years and have it made up when/if the venture stabilised.

  8. Enjoy the Minions I’m looking forward to a watch myself, will need to find a wee relative to take, as an excuse to go see :)

  9. It’s all a big pile of bollox really. The whole damned lot.

     

     

    More than that I cannot say…….

     

     

    But it really is…..

     

     

    Adios.

  10. canamalar

     

     

    15:18 on 8 July, 2015

     

    Enjoy the Minions I’m looking forward to a watch myself, will need to find a wee relative to take, as an excuse to go see :)

     

     

     

    You can take my two, please. I’ll even pay and splash for the snacks. It’s only week 2 and I’m already demented.

     

     

    WorkonmondayyipeeCSC

     

     

    Only joking Pearce and Erin, daddy does love you really.

  11. Canamalar

     

    Not a point made that I would disagree with. Just a question of persuading Clubs that their long term financial interests certainly do not lie in the continuation of the Sky deal. Ours certainly do not and as I said earlier, i feel, that the Swiss rambler analysis bears this out.

     

    Restless 8 year old ( can be leased out to those who wish to see the Minions). Must go.

     

    KTF

  12. Good discussion this morning……

     

     

    AULDHEID,

     

    the Swiss Rambler is indeed a good read. It certainly highlights the disparity in TV money.

     

     

    I think that the day will come when UEFA come to terms with the following:

     

     

    1. It makes no sense to have ‘Big Clubs in Wee Countries’, heretofore to be known as BCWC….:) .willfully removed from the big football table. Especially in light of:

     

     

    2. The increasingly boring repetitiveness of the UCL. Yes, there are some great names, but unless you are watching your own team, the seeding process renders many group stage games as meaningless.

     

     

    3. One has to believe that football’s current set up (forcing clubs to play only within their national associations – and in UEFA sponsored tournaments) would not stand the test of a European court. They would rule for the clubs as they have done for the players.

     

     

    I believe that this view may well have been discussed among major Dutch, Portuguese – and perhaps even a Scottish club. They may be clinging to the hope that thus can be done within the UEFA family, and that UEFA will move to a European league.

     

     

    Who knows. But in the meantime we are condemned to scrap for what we can.

     

     

    So, within the financial straight jacket that we find ourselves in – there is one gamble that is worth taking. That is, getting into the Group stages. The path is clear. The pay off is quantifiable with great certainty. I really don’t understand why we don’t take more aggressive steps to qualify.

     

     

    On most matters, I consider myself more cautious than most posters on here. However, this is one bet that is worth taking. Not for 20 million pounds of course. But an extra 5 million spent to try and qualify would be a decent bet. If it is one good player, we either qualify or not. If we don’t, we still have that player. If we fail again the next season, the money could be recouped by selling that player, or someone else.

     

     

    I just don’t understand the mentality that says we might try and acquire a player or two IF we qualify.

     

     

    Anyway, enough rambling. Back to real life.

  13. leftclicktic on

    Celtic Football Club

     

    @celticfc

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Henderson: Rosenborg experience a valuable learning curve celticfc.net/news/8575 (NM) pic.twitter.com/pr9oLh6M0W

  14. Minions are magic, can’t understand anyone who would try and escape the chance to take in this feast of innocent fun. No doubt there will be subterfuge claims coming :)

  15. 67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar...... Ipox belongs to the creditors on

    Received my SB and Landyard today ….doooo doooo

  16. Can I have…,

     

    :oD

     

    Enjoy the day, kiddies chuckling is probably the greatest noise you will ever hear.

  17. mike in toronto on

    minions …. good clean fun for the whole family …. or are they? (cue ominous sounding music)

     

     

    http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/grandparent-says-mcdonalds-minion-toy-speaks-profa/nms9B/

     

     

    sorry .. the idea of the little guys dropping the f bomb appealed to my (twisted?) sense of humor

     

     

    and Tim Horton … how ya doing? sometimes, not having a working brain helps in this industry! otherwise, we would go crazy trying to make sense of a lot of stuff that will never make sense!

  18. South Of Tunis on

    The Tour .

     

     

    Today’s stage passed Beaumont – Hamel on the Somme.A place where @ 700 Canadian soldiers died in an hour whilst assaulting the German trenches .

     

     

    The relevant Canadian big cheese said this –

     

    ” It was a magnificent display of trained and disciplined valour but the assault failed because dead men can advance no further “

  19. mike in toronto on

    jimtim … I think I am of the MO’N school … I like my defenders to be big … I think LH is about 6′, but in the modern game, that is not so big for a CB.

     

     

    Besides, I think he will be needed in the middle this season. With RD’s style, players will need to be rotated/given games off, so I think LH will get a fair few chances filling in for SB and others this year (at least, I hope he will).

  20. mike in toronto on

    Canamalar …. I thought it was perhaps because I said the ‘f bomb’ … but since you have been able to post, clearly I was not the problem (for once!) …

     

     

    whew! good thing … for a moment there, I thought I might need a laywer! :)

  21. What is the stars.

     

     

    Don’t you start that again. Lol.

     

     

    However I had a look at a copy I have and to be honest parts of it are not easy to interpret. Took a good few readings and then I sent for help.

     

     

    However it’s not the document that matters really but the thinking behind it.

     

     

    Some of it is easy to discern like Green’s people paying football what it was owed. No club would have accepted a deal that left them owed good money.

     

    However why transfer of Full SFA membership? Who asked or suggested that?

     

     

    Why say RFC were the company and Rangers Football Club the club?

     

     

    Who thought that one up and why?

     

     

    I had a debate with a journo who pointed out treatment of Coventry and how that was similar. My response was that Coventry had not broken the rules on registration to hide payments that avoided the tax other clubs were paying nor had the owed significant sums to tax payers or ran up such unsustainable debt.

     

     

    I think and I may be wrong that it was the reasons why RFC went bust that honest men would have thought required their total removal from football and that should have been the bargaining stance of the SFA and SPL, not cap in hand to Green to save the day as it looks like that is how they saw the situation.

     

     

    It should have been made clear from the start that the only concession open was to begin again as a new club in the bottom tier of the SFL and given past behaviour this in itself was the only concession Scottish football was prepared to make.

     

     

    Treat what had been done as the crime it was against the game and all supporters including those of RFC who have lost any semblance if the dignity they were so proud of.

     

     

    So what WAS the thinking behind the 5 Way? Who thought it up? When did that process actually start? Was it in Dec 2011 when Ogilvie and Regan met Whyte or was it earlier?

     

     

    Once we have an idea of that then we can start to understand what took place and why in order to correct the errors in that thinking that led to an agreement that continue to dog the integrity of Scottish football.

  22. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    Ooooh, get heaven67. He got a lanyard. Whats wrong with a bit of string?

  23. South Of Tunis on

    mike in toronto @ 15 59.

     

     

    Big defenders ?.

     

     

    Heard an interesting debate on Italian radio.One of the pundits pointed out that some of the Italian greats eg Baresi / Cannavaro and Gentile were relatively small at @ 5ft 9.He argued that pace , strength , dig and most of all intelligence were much more important than size.

  24. Auldheid

     

     

    Don’t overlook the power of a Bryson. The ever presents are the dangerous ones.

  25. Jungle Jim Hot Smoked on

    South of Tunis

     

     

    Can you see beyond Froome for victory in the Tour?

     

     

    JJ

  26. Canalamar

     

     

    As agreed the 3 to 5 blackout would be the first thing to review the necessity of.

     

     

    Who benefits?

  27. Auldheid,

     

    We will have our own issues as Irish and English supporters who currently travel will be given the option. However those who do currently travel do so because they want to and I doubt live games would make much difference.

  28. Kitalba

     

     

    There is an ever present more culpable than any still there in the game if not still at SFA.

     

     

    In fact he was made Director and Head of Football Administration at TRFC recently.

     

     

    A culture change is required at SFA to make what Bryson came up with unthinkable.

  29. Who beds in the Smiths’, the Peats’, the Ogilvies’? Who runs the army? Who has always advised? Who has always kept the office holders straight? (sic)

     

     

    Who?

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