Remember Henri Camara? Martin O’Neill paid a significant loan fee to sign him 10 years ago, in the considerable wake of Henrik Larsson. Henri flopped and soon lost his place in the team but the weight of responsibility thrust upon his frame was considerable. No one could come close to filling the gap left in the Celtic team.
Nadir Ciftci would do well to consider whose shoes he’s stepping into at Celtic. Last summer’s striker signings, John Guidetti and Stefan Scepovic could hardly muster a start the second half of the season. Leigh Griffiths, who arrived 18 months ago, got the striker’s gig most weeks, but Leigh came to Celtic with as illustrious a heritage as Nadir.
Never step into a great man’s shoes, but Nadir’s not doing that. This is the perfect time for a striker to join Celtic, I hope he has the appetite.
I see the great and the good in the media are flogging lyrical at the prospect of a prodigy arriving from Madrid. None of this has come from Celtic. The player may become available at some point but I reckon it remains a hard task convincing Real his immediate future should lie in Glasgow.
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thompsontwin,
My challenge to you was to provide a single quote from anyone on here that you claim suggested we blow £22M on a single player, stick to the point, find me that quote, you are using it to make a point about people you disagree with. To on I’m not going to be side tracked by you trying to divert from your claim, where is that suggestion ?
Burgas Hoops
Im thinking of sending Ciftci…. a diagram of my vicious 25 yard drive, against the wee huns of Summerston in 1981….what a dig….my leg still shakes to this day:)
If he can produce skill like that, he will be doing well.
HH
tallybhoy
If we qualify for CL Jason could be one of those last minute loan deals that go through just as Big Ben strikes to slam the window shut.
Borgo67
Aye but it’s 31 degrees here, but feels like 41!
:-)
Away to lie doon in a cold bath!
HH!!
Umidita in Sheepland 99% lol
http://news.stv.tv/north/1324244-flooding-in-aberdeen-as-rain-and-storms-hit-north-of-scotland/
The Green Man
You mean you never captured it on betamax?
THOMPSONTWIN
Previous accounts indicate a net credit at the bank of £4m.
Go check it out before you rant about having no money to spend due to being in debt already.
BMCUW,
I’m still waiting for the response to your 99.9% tax :oD)))
Going to see Leon Bridges tonight in King Tut’s.
I’m sure he was mentioned here a couple of months ago. Any other CQN attendees ?
CANAMALAR
I think he was unexpectedly called away that time…
According to some if we spend money we’ll end up like rangers :)
But only if we spend the money they suggest has been quoted on here, which they never seem to provide quotes for.
Don’t buy toult paper for the toilets at Celtic park or we end up like rangers ffs.
Toult = toilet
tallybhoy
At work so those are the sort of temperatures in here.
Thinking of jumping in the potato tank.
Canamalar – My point was to illustrate that the only way to alter our present transfer policy is to take on more debt.
You know as well as I do, that there are the ‘usual suspects’ on here, day and daily berating Peter and the board for not spending big – my figures are backed-up by the excellent Swiss report.
Its on an old grainy black and white instant poloroid, that’s now on display in the Dept of Archaeology at Oxford.
But am telling you….my second goal was even better, overhead kick from the edge of the box…..it went that fast, that the poloroid camera didn’t catch it…rasper.
The wee huns didnae like it, and tried to start a handbags at ten paces rammy….they refused to play on as they were getting a lesson in football artistry from the swashbuckling Green Man.
Happy Days.
Could Ciftci do that:)
HH
WHATEVER HAPPENED TO RAMON VEGA?…http://www.cqnmagazine.com/?p=6232
thompsontwin,
That was not your point and we both know it, your point was to pour scorn on anyone who differs from your point of view, now provide the evidence for your claim, who suggested Celtic spend £22M on a single player ?
Gearoid1998
I think the problem Celtic might face is the loss of TV revenue that other clubs depend on.
However it must surely be worth a feasibility study looking at alternative models that give our game greater control over KO times thus offsetting any loss of TV revenue with increased attendance income.
The Sky deal is so poor that it makes it easier to match or beat if Celtic or indeed the SPFL take control.
Celtic may be trapped in the a Scottish environment but so too are other clubs so in the absence of escaping we should be looking at improving that environment for every club.
That is where leadership is required and I don’t see any.
And rarely does anyone ask him to spend big, what the problem is is what some people consider big money which has changed over the last ten years.
Spending £3/4/5M in Eastern Europe will get you the cream of the crop and extremely high probability you bill not be wasting your time.
The same people who squeal at Regan and Doncaster when they claim our game is rotten use the same argument to argue that those player don’t want to come to Scotland because the game is rotten. So apparently we shouldn’t even try because it’s too much money anyway, oh and a £3/4/5M player from Eastern Europe will not cost the same in wages as one form Western Europe, would be my follow up.
On another matter, seems Osborne has ‘shot the SNP Fox’ – their only costed policy was cutting Corporation Tax by 3%.
There will be no SNP benefits bonanza for their new converts, indeed many of them will be hit very hard by Tax Credits cuts – as I keep saying – a vote against Labour ALWAYS ALWAYS gives you a RIGHT-WING government.
If they had not voted for the impotent SNP, and had Salmond & co not frightened English Labour voters – there would be no slashing cuts.
AULDHEID
Pretty sure BRT&H has a rough idea of set-up and running costs of a SPFL-TV type of operation which would be available to online subscribers.
Personally I don’t think a price of say £100pa is too much to ask,and could easily bring us 100k domestic subscribers with maybe 50-100k overseas.
Based on that,it would bring more money into the Scottish game while allowing it to operate without interference from outside.
And since it sticks two fingers up to Sky at the same time,I’m all for it!
THOMPSONTWIN
Maybe Labour should have given people a reason to vote for them. Two months on from the election and they look and sound like a busted flush.
Bruised and battered,cowed into submission and scared to speak out on anything. Including the Tory cuts.
A big congratulations to Philip Archbishop of Glasgow and his brother Gerry who in the past week or so have celebrated 40&30 years respectively since their ordination into the priesthood .
Two lifelong and absolutely committed Celtic fans .
Right, that’s Ciftci in the bag.
Now when are getting this schoolboy prodigy from Real.
I can just see him swanning down London Rd in his Celtic Kit:)
HH
THEGREENMAN
Aye. And we don’t even need to shell out for an adult size!
BMCUW/Auldheid,
Like all these good ideas the initial investment is the prohibitive factor, setting it up and paying for the technology and infrastructure required, even renting those facilities would be extremely expensive. Is suspect you’d need a fair bit more that 250,000 at £100 a season to make it worth while. And obviously the better the product you’d want to sell the higher the cost of production.
Now 250,000 at £200 a season would I expect be the minimum required to make a go of it however I don’t see 250,000 being interested in paying that.
Auldheid@14.25
Was going to make the point that BMCUWP made. I was pretty sure that Brogan et al ( don’t want to write in acronyms) costed just such a scenario of an SPFL broadcasting set up which blew the Sky deal completely out of the water. It was a win/win all round.
As you say the problem is a distinct lack of leadership in progressing such a deal, when everyone, with an eye in their head, can see the financial necessity of such. The problem is that if an alternative is not forthcoming we will continue to slide further behind not just clubs like Barca, Real and the Man City’s but as the Swiss rambler highlighted the Everton, Stokes and Burnleys of this world.
Auldheid – SPFL TV deals, as you know, are based on ‘collective bargaining’ spreading monies thinly among twelve clubs – it amounts to around 4% of turnover, less in a CL year.
Celtic are bound by the SPFL rules – so really no where to turn.
There is no other broadcaster willing to offer more, indeed, we may be at top-end, it may well fall.
Celtic T.V., if possible, would have a negative impact on attendances, less ST – ‘swings and roundabouts’
BMCUWP
Just his tan alone will be valuable…it will light up the whole of brigton:)
HH
THEGREENMAN
I can think of a better way to light that place up.
bmcuwp – not having your income cut is surely the reason to vote Labour – EXACTLY what did SNP promise?
They can deliver NOTHING in Westminster and have delivered NOTHING in Scotland.
Their new found followers will soon be revolting.
Where I could see it becoming fees able is if the Scottish football channel ended the 15:00 embargo with the English and UK markets and broadcast outside Scotland for all viewers at 15:00 on a Saturday.
BMCUW,
Goal posts successfully moved and now on a completely new topic of discussion, why did you follow that ?
Canamalar@14.44
See where you’re coming from but I would imagine that the initial prohibitive costs would be just that …initial. Once established I would imagine that the recurrent costs would be less prohibitive and the project could be feasible. Less money to Rupert and more control over kick off times…what’s not to like. Definitely worth some consideration/ leadership.
THOMPSONTWIN
Sadly Labour agreed with much of the austerity plans,just not to the same extent. Though Balls initially disagreed with them.
The point is that Labour didn’t argue their case with any conviction either in Scotland or England. I’m gutted at another five years of the Tories but the Labour campaign was an utter shambles.
Big Ciftci’s a good shout …. HH
CANAMALAR
Aye. Best of luck with this mercurial poster-its bed for me. Nightshift soon enough.
Gearoid1998,
Yep but the problem is recouping those initial start up costs, unless everyone was happy to take less in the first couple of years and that is where I think it all falls down.