You would be forgiven for believing you lived in a parallel universe if you read Newco Rangers director, Paul Murray, today, who told us, “the benchmark in Scotland is Celtic”. “First and foremost, we don’t want to put the club into financial risk”, he told reporters.
Yes, I know, it’s supposed to be the company, or maybe the holding company, that’s put at financial risk, not the club, the club can sail on regardless of financial realities. With an impressive sense of entitlement, but we’ll not press Murray to square that circle.
Let’s instead remind him of the roles of a non-executive director. PricewaterhouseCoopers define the roles of a non-exec as:
Constructively challenging and contributing to the development of strategy
Monitoring the performance of management
Satisfying themselves that financial information is accurate and that financial controls and systems of risk management are robust
Succession planning and determining appropriate levels of remuneration for executive directors.
Paul Murray, you will remember, was a non-executive director of oldco Rangers, and that club was well and truly put into financial risk, costing hundreds of creditors money, ending in liquidation.
Businesses have non-executives to offer help but also to be the eyes and ears of ordinary shareholders, creditors, customers, staff and any other stakeholders. It’s their job to sit at board meetings and ask the questions of the executive management, ensuring the company is able to meet all obligations.
They should be banging fists on the table demanding risks are brought under control. If they are unable to impose control on management, they should resign.
It was Paul Murray’s role to ensure that financial controls and systems of risk management were robust at oldco. He was paid to constructively challenge strategy, and to ensure management performed their duties.
In this respect, Murray was magnificent.
22 years ago we went through a rebirth. The old board, unable to take the club forward, limped off the scene. Imagine for a second that a few years later Fergus and his fellow directors were swept aside by the old board (who remember saw the writing on the wall and appropriate took steps).
It’s unthinkable. The benchmark in Scotland is indeed Celtic, where those susceptible to vanity spending on football bling at the cost of financial security will never be the eyes and ears of the club’s fans and shareholders.
These people are perfect in every way.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSn59uH4AzE&app=desktop
No a bad gemme fae 2001 ….watch the end to see young up and coming
Player getting jersey off the legend wee Lenny.
A good day was had by all.
Anyone watching BT Sport? McManamin? Charlie or German Beer??
VP, thanks for posting that, Zlatan knew a quality player when he played against one!
Recruitment is always hit and miss. Man City have spent £70m on two CBs. Neither of them look anywhere near as good as Jason Denayer.
Paul67
I’m not a moaner. Just read your piece and I hope not to be the first person to say;
“Businesses have non-executives to offer help but also to be the eyes and ears of ordinary shareholders, creditors, customers, staff and any other stakeholders. It’s their job to sit at board meetings and ask the questions of the executive management, ensuring the company is able to meet all obligations.”
WTF. Brian Duffy resigned his position as a non-executive director at Celtic, effective from 30 June 2014. No replacement yet. Correct my error, if that sentence is inaccurate, Paul.
Junk, like this article, just lets down Celtic supporters. I’ll always be a Celtic supporter.
rebus67 on 7th April 2016 9:23 pm
Eurochamp and Jin Con,
Thanks for the replies. I am ambivalent on their use. If they have priority over judgement of contribution and role, then it is wrong in my view. However, if they are part of the mix and used to improve a player’s performance, I think they have merit.I know this will be unpopular but remember Jim Baxter? At his peak, he was a great player but he hardly broke a sweat. He entertained by beating players while walking, and let the ball do the work. If team selection was based largely on monitors he would not have made the team.
I have wondered if this is a major explanation of any unrest that exists, and for RD’s continual changing of the team?
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If Ronny was really picking his team based on stats from GPS monitors why then do the likes of Brown, Lustig, Mulgrew and even Commons get games and keep their places??
North Cyprus (formerly Baku) Bhoy on 7th April 2016 8:47 pm
TONTINE TIM on 7TH APRIL 2016 7:36 PM
Best post, and call-to-arms, I’ve ever read on this blessed blog!
Hail Hail to you Sir!
Cosy Corner Bhoy on 7th April 2016 10:03 pm
Tontine Tim: Excellent post from you as per usual. Age has its compensations.
*when I was a young lad my da was delighted when it was announced we would be going with the Kelly Kids, similar to the Busby and Ancell Babes, he loved it that we would be rearing our own. “That’s the Celtic way son” he said to me.
Bit of disappointment as we entered intae the years in the wilderness which now with hindsight might have been as a result of letting Jock leave and allowing Bob complete control.
On his return he stated, and this can be seen in “100 Years of Celtic”, “there’s no use in saying you have control when you haven’t”, and Hugh McIlvanney also mentions that at the first board meeting after his arrival he was asked what Saturday’s team was, in reply he mentioned he couldn’t say due to a wee injury here and a wee cold there to which Bob replied that they were getting told to mind their business, at that the Big Mhan allegedly said “that’s about the size of it”.
8 of the Lisbon side were former Kelly Kids so all was not lost with his leaving just a painful 5 years. And then there were the Quality Street Gang, a joy to watch. That all seemed to end when he was pushed out the door by a chartered accountant FFS.
Now at last we seem to be on the way back with as my wee da said the “Celtic Way”.
a few tims walking away!!!!!!!!!!
just catching up on earlier postings. get the feeling that THE GREEN MAN SAYS SACK THE BOARD thinks we’ve been cheated. he seems quite adamant.
An incredibly tough read back.
One post I need to address is the one by TonyD where he mentioned his attendance at the Fans Forum meeting.
He claimed that’s it’s a closed shop and only those who are members of particular groups are invited.
That’s not true. Both FourGreenFields and I have attended two of these meetings and we did so as Celtic supporters, not as part of any group.
It was also claimed that Tony came onto CQN the following day and stated verbatim what had been said at the meeting and that consequently I’d said that he shouldn’t have said anything.
That’s also not true.
JP Taylor asked that some of the comments made at the meeting should be kept quiet. Most of those comments were made by Peter Lawell.
Now I don’t particularly like or trust the man but the comments were made in confidence and in the company of Celtic supporters. For those reasons he deserved my discretion on this occasion.
After the first meeting, which I wasn’t at, I asked to meet with JP about a number of issues, one of which was the closed shop nature of the forum meetings. At this point he stated that they were being scrapped because of the negativity which had come about after the initial gathering. I was rather apoplectic at this stage and said that, in my opinion, that was the last thing that should happen. In fairness to him he offered an invitation to the next one on the spot.
That was how my invitation came about.
I could have come on after the meeting and posted comments made by PL which would have been used within days by the media. I chose not to because I thought that by doing so I’d harm Celtic. This was despite my opinion of Mr Lawell.
I should also point out that for several weeks, Tony had claimed that he would be at that meeting.
He was but not by invitation. Apparently, he sat in a corner though we weren’t aware of that. Paul67 can confirm this as he too was present.
I can assure anyone that if I attend any such meetings in the future, and believe that anything outside the Club minutes, needs to be put in a public forum, I will do so. However, I won’t reference anything that will be harmful to Celtic.
I hope, and expect, that most will trust my judgement.
Ps can I point out that I could now attend these meetings as a member of the EC of The Celtic Trust. If I do, I will say so.
With a heavy heart I write today about Kevin.
My wife and I arrived in Sydney 30 odd years ago . Some 6 months after the beast had been slain when 10 men won the league. A game I was privileged to attend. By today`s standards ,communication was primitve Scottish football results could be found at the bottom of the sports pages in the Sydney Morning Herald in the very small print lurking beneath the footy and the cricket.
The Celtic View sent weekly from Scotland provided the main source of indepth information. Late in `81 I read a letter from Kevin to the View saying that he had heard about Celtic Supporters Clubs all around the world . Why wasn`t there one in Sydney ? There is now and there has been ever since then.
The introduction of video cassettes meant that the club was more than a talking shop although one of the earliest games we showed featured a loss to Dundee Utd. There were complaints ” Ah huvnae come here tae see the Sellic lose.”
Sometimes you just cant win. I suspect Paul knows that.
However, neither of us was interested in running our Club .We just wanted it to be there.
Kevin and I stayed in touch over those years and would meet occasionally and share exactly the kind of conversations you would expect from two people who have as much in common as a love of Celtic .
I recently found out that Kevin was educated at St. George`s Penillee , a school where my father had taught. We had a few laughs about that one.
From a standing start Kevin had risen rapidly through the ranks in his workplace to a position of great responsibility but was unchanged by his success. At the age of 55 , he still turned out for his football team and played at a very respectable standard.
Soon after the Dundee game this week I got a phone call telling me that Kevin had died and I knew that I couldn`t let this very sad event pass without telling my fellow Tims about our loss and paying a small tribute to a really great guy and a credit to our club and culture.
May God Bless you , Kevin Gaffney.
And a final Hail Hail .
Macjay
Poor Kevin Gaffney
Very sorry to hear
I obviously never knew him but we had 3 things in common
Celtic
55 years of age
Still playing football ( at a serious level ha ha)
actually 4
Your good self
Macjay
A really fitting tribute to a man who obviously was a real Tim.
RIP Kevin may your soul rest in peace.
Macjay,
A lovely post to read. My condolences to his family and friends.
May he rest in peace.
So Auldheid is now being subjected to threats from the establishment through their trusted agents, I’m surprised it’s not been picked up on and discussed, especially on here by all his twitter followeres.
Macjay
Condolences to yourself and Kevin’s family.
He has obviously left a lasting memory.
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The Secret History of Ronnie & The Ronettes F.C.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_And_The_Ronettes
The Arc of Ronnie’s Career with the Mighty Celtics
Was,In Retrospect,So Predictable..
When Ronnie arrived, largely unheralded, at Paradise-oan-the Clyde…
Expectations were muted….
To say the least.
She had no real track record…
Her Svengali boss,Peter Spectrum, quickly appointed Two Journeymen Wa-Doobies…
To back Her in a Trio…
Together,they developed an Echo-Chamber “Wall of Sound”…
Maggie McGill & The Easterhoose Kardashians…
Worked Assiduously, To Transform Their Image…
With the Much-Copied Signature Beehives…
And the Spray-On Tan…
As well as innovating their Hallmark,if Cheesy, ‘Ronnie’s Roar’….
They had early success…
With their invention and effort..
Regularly taking them to the Top of the Charts…
Both Home and Abroad.
“Be My Baby”
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QzhbGaCwBzs
However,their initial success quickly waned…
In The More Competitive Foreign Charts….
Which saw the Struggling in the Preliminary Rounds of the Eurovision Song Contest, in their second appearance…
“Chapel Of Love”
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rWOyrDQaGG0
The Writing Was On The Wall…
An’ there was even Greater Humiliation in their Final Appearance….
As they finished Last in the Eurovision Contest….
Behind the Blind Whistling Shepherd from Albania….
“Paradise(Lost)”
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1D-N_z029Z4
At Home…They began to regularly miss out on top position in The Charts….
To unsophisticated novelty acts and hammer-throwers, such as The Wurzels,with ‘Brand New Combine Harvester’, Joe Dolce and ‘Shaddup You Face’, Mrs.Mills with ‘Lieutenant Pigeon’, Telly Savalas and ‘ If ‘…
Their Fans became increasingly disgruntled with their lack of passion
,innovation, torpid predictability..
And sheer bliddy mallum…
Which Characterised of their Latter-Day Performances..
But Ronnie’s Cloistered Trio were Oblivious To the Growing Discontent…
Coccooned as they were, within their Echochamber ‘Wall of Sound’…
‘The Best Part Of Breaking Up’
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iT68dj4ftaU
Eventually,Their Management and Their Disillusioned Fans had seen enough…
And their contracts were not renewed by the Diffident Irish Raj…
Ronnie returned to her Native Norway….
Where she became the CEO of Norway’s Own ‘Big Issue’ Publications…
Her Eleven ‘person’ teams would pound the streets of Oslo…
In her familiar 4-3-3 formations….
With two left-wingers….
Dressed in Fluorescent Orange Shell Suits..
Her Transfer Policy was unchanged..
She tended to look Abroad…
To fill up her Teams
With Gash Bargain Basement Signings…
Including the Occasional One-Legged Frontman…
With Allie McCoist,Richard Gough,Willie McVie,Wee Luggsy Durranty..
And Cry-Baby Gascoigne….
Enjoying varying degrees of Success….
In Ronnie’s Rapide ‘Big Issue’.
In her Twilight Years,Ronni took her Big Issue XI on the Road…
With Cruises Along The Scandinavian Fjords…
Giving Exhibition Gigs Against Scratch Teams Of Paying Pensioner Guests…
But they never did recapture their initial success…
With their Trademark ‘Wall of Sound’..
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Canamalar
Threatened by whom?
Canamalar,
Can you expand? I don’t do Twitter.
Not on at all mind you
Hail Hail
Condolences with the Gaffney family
RIP Kevin may gods grace guide you to his light and provide solace for your loved ones.
Giggsy on 8th April 2016 12:04 am
just catching up on earlier postings. get the feeling that THE GREEN MAN SAYS SACK THE BOARD thinks we’ve been cheated. he seems quite adamant.
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Where did you see that, Giggsy? Can you post a link…
MACJAY1
A lovely tribute for a good man RIP Kevin Gaffney.
I completely understand your statement regarding the running
of a Celtic club and the work involved and you’re correct, you just
want it to always be there so kudos to our committee and CQN’S
paddymacoz who started the first Melbourne No1 club and now
the Social Celts MORNINGTON sometimes it’s a thankless task, at
our recent Willie Wallace tribute night we had a couple who had
recently joined as members because they loved the atmosphere
complain about the type of music which was playing ( rebs ) but
as it was a private event they were told where the nearest door
was so we will find out soon if they will be back.
H.H Mick
MACJAY
Surpassed yourself there with an excellent tribute to your friend,Kevin Gaffney.
R I P
CANAMALAR 1242
Sounds like a job for the OBaF brigade. Give him my best next time you talk to him.
He knows YNWA…
MACJAY
Condolences to you on the loss of your friend and to the family of Kevin Gaffney. May his soul and the souls of all the departed rest in peace.
Puts everything into perspective.
CANAMALAR
Disgusted to hear that Auldheid has been subjected to threats. The Dark Side are obviously worried about Resolution 12.
Anything we can do? HH
Auldheids picture was posted on twitter by a mad hun today, identified as the Res12 target.
This is exactly why the Plc refuse to accept responsibility for Res12.
This is exactly why we asked for discretion and confidences to be kept.
This is exactly why Res12 representatives did not want to disclose supporters identities to the SFA.
This is their only means of control, intimidation.
They are failing keep control of the information, blame and intimidate, it’s last chance saloon for them.
Biggest surprise is this is the first post.
Thanks to all of you for your kind words.
Kevin would be having a laugh at all this and saying :
” That couldn`t have been me you were talking about , John. “
RIP Kevin, may the angels guide him in his final journey, my condolences go to the Gaffney family at this sad time
P67 Wow. Embarrassed for you,fella. That blog came straight from Peter Liewell.
CANAMALAR
Thank you for the information. Just to think that any of you guys are subject to threats because you are exposing the corruption in Scottish football is shocking. Hopefully the cyber crime cops are dealing with it and catch the perpetrator.
All shareholders who haven’t yet signed the mandate to the solicitors should consider doing so and we can face down these creeps and their corrupt ring-masters.
Keep safe and thanks for your efforts. HH
MELBOURNE MICK on 8TH APRIL 2016 1:00 AM
When I was attempting to get video cassettes sent over from Scotland ,there was one guy who felt it was more important to get ” blazers ” for our small membership.
Tell you what, pal , there was always a laugh to be had.
The Club now meets in Cheers bar and has a large and growing membership.
We shal not we shall not be moved.
We shall not we shall not be moved
Unless we lose an alleged £10m a season
Then we shall be moved.
We shall, we shal be moved.
We shall, we shall be moved
By greed, corruption and power.
Then we shall be moved.
Etc
o repeat…….
AN TEACH SOLAIS on 8TH APRIL 2016 1:13 AM
MACJAY
You`re right.
Puts all the squabbling into perspective.
As for threats and intimidation. In an institutional racist society that’s the rule of thumb. I am sorry to hear the res 12 guys are now experiencing this.
That’s the reason the Celtic board are hiding behind their skirts is it?
Wow pathetic. Corrupt and cowardly eh? A magical combination.
I hope you are proud propping this up paul67.
Or maybe your love for Tony Donnelly and his special brand of planned stupidity will sway us all. Or maybe your new brand of obfac on cqn will make you proud?
And why aren’t the Celtic board speaking out against the intimidation etc.
Oh that’s right.
Money.
Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on 8th April 2016 1:20 am
Auldheids picture was posted on twitter by a mad hun today, identified as the Res12 target.
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I thought I looked rather fetching in my straw Skipper hat with green and white band all around .
Hebcelt might be able to confirm (in a manly way – cough cough).
Worried? They should be. lol