Despite of the most intense lobbying and doomsday predicting from chief executive, Neil Doncaster, SPL clubs have “overwhelmingly” voted ‘No to Newco’, finally rejecting the bid by one of Charles Green’s Sevco companies to form a team and gain access to the SPL.
This is the conclusion of what only last month looked like an unlikely grass-roots campaign which left several reluctant clubs with little choice but to accept the wishes of their supporters.
Neil Doncaster’s position is compromised after his ‘there is little difference between a CVA and liquidation’ campaign, as he contorted to win support for new rules which would make it easier for him to meet revenue targets.
The right conclusion has been reached. Well done to all.
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Surely the SFL can’t admit another member til there’s a space. When will the process of deciding to invite an SFL club into the SPL be complete (presuming that that will happen)
Torontony
Hi pal, been that long it took me a week to remember my password! Pints tonight ;-) good nik in Dunfermline last weekend watching the Draymin.
Serge
Der Bomber is on SSB tonight. I wonder if he will be challenged on his PL outburst?
Still waiting for the ‘bored’ bashers to explain how this disgraceful vote came about.
I like the Integrity Cup idea or any progressive thinking to make up the shortfall.
Sporting integrity should not have a price attached to it, it is to Rangers eternal shame that the very concept exists.
I would caution against selling the idea prior to any vote, integrity should have no price attached, but if the right thing is done and it costs certain clubs then games to recognise the sacrifice, with proceeds going to mitigate the effects would be the ethical thing to do.
If Sevco were to be placed in SFL1, what happens if they finish in a promotion place in any of their first two season there?
In order to gain promotion to the SPL would they not need an SPL licence? And since an SPL licence is based upon the full UEFA licence model, and Sevco don’t/won’t have three years’ worth of accounts…
Mort on 4 July, 2012 at 15:52 said:
yes
Lots of tweets now saying the Celts voted NAW!!
dead huns fans know if they buy for example Cowdenbeath they will forever be known by Celtic, Aberdeen fans etc as Cowdenbeath. I don’t think they (dead huns fans) could take it.
According to Raman, Killie abstained.
Raman Bhardwaj @STVRaman
Here is how they voted. 10 voted no. Only Charles Green (Rangers) voted yes and Kilmarnock abstained re Rangers newco entry to SPL.
From Earlier (before Vote and so amended slightly now)
medtim
The idea has merits but would have to be carefully framed. I don’t think we should go down the route of explicitly saying that we will provide financial assistance to clubs who vote No as that would be seen as us dictating how others vote.
What I would like to see is something similar to proposals but with an accompanying statement saying something along the lines of this:
1.) It is with great regret that Scottish Football finds itself in a period of uncertainty and turmoil due to the actions of 1 club;
2.) While it is sad that for the fans that a club has ceased to exist, we feel that rules are rules and that no new entity should be given a place in either the SPL or SFL.
3.) As a place now exists in the SFL, applications should be welcomed from any club who meet the criteria set out by the SFL/SFA.
4.) We understand that these decisions will have a knock-on effect on a number of clubs across the country and for a start we propose that we will do what we can to help clubs where we can by:
a) All gate receipts at Celtic Park generated from away teams will be given back to the away club;
b) Our development side will endeavour to play as many friendlies against any SPL/SFL side that wishes during the season and we would encourage our supporters to attend;
c) If Sky/ESPN TV deal is nullified, we will underwrite a new contract for TV rights accross all divisions. This might take a couple of years to get off the ground but in the meantime CelticTV will offer matches on a Pay-per-view basis with all funds going to the teams involved;
d) All proceeds we receive from domestic football (i.e. prize money from SPL/SFA) will be stored in a central pot and will be used to provide low interest loans to any SPL/SFL side.
5.) During this transition period we will work with all partners to come up with a feasible restructuring of the game in Scotland. There are too many professional leagues and it is our intention to have two professional leagues with 16 teams in each and a good pyramid system below so that clubs that wish to remain semi-professional/amateur receive the opportunity to continue to be an important element of scottish football.
6.) There are hard choices ahead and while this is all down to the inaction of one club, we feel it is our duty to give back to Scottish football by assisting in the transition of the game.
Mort
Raman Bhardwaj@STVRaman
Here is how they voted. 10 voted no. Only Charles Green (Rangers) voted yes and Kilmarnock abstained re Rangers newco entry to SPL.
Lifted from his STV Twitter account.
RobinBhoy
Huns have distorted the landscape of Scottish football enough without taking over someone elses club, a club who have commited followers and players and who could see their pride and joy be swallowed up into a hun hole. Clydebank were in dire financial trouble but the huns could conceivable take over a club who have been well run and budgeted to meet the demands of a tough financial climate- and suceeded.
They just don’t care who they trample over as they attempt to come back from the dead. What happens then they take over some unsuspecting SFL1 or 2 club, sell the assets for major dosh and relocate to Ibrox?
Then they’ll tell us they’re still the same club.
HH
hamilton
you’ve been texted..
HH
CB
Has the new Green statement been posted? Says they’ve applied for membership of the SFL and will be happy to play in whatever league they’re offered.
Ok guys I can only share this with you now.
I got this reply last year
From: Awe_Naw@UnderpaidITconsultant.com
To: TheQueen@Buckinghampalace.co.uk
subject:Filthy Huns
Lizze,
What´s going on with your team ?
Love and Kisses
Awe Naw
Reply
From: TheQueen@Buckinghampalace.co.uk
To: Awe_Naw@UnderpaidITconsultant.com
subject: Re: Filthy Huns
Date 28/06/11
Dear Awe Naw
In this past year my family and I have been disgusted at the reprehensible behaviour of the Glasgow Rangers. I have instructed the government to sort this situation out as quickly as possible. I would like to thank you for your vigilance and the present of CQN badges. Your kindness knows no bounds. I will wear both badges next year when I visit Northern Ireland and Scotland.
Yours truly
HMRC Lizzie
Yeh Roy Mc gregor(Ross County) said it was unanimous 11-1
alex thomson @alextomo
“Rangers” owner C Green “If our application were to be accepted, R will play in whichvr div the SFL sees fit & we’ll move fwd from there.”
At one point there were over 100 groups playing cabaret all over the world called the drifters. Nobody had a divine right to the name so anyone who had ever played with them were able to form their own spinoff called the drifters.
So far weve had chuck bomber and the cardigans version of ragers. How many more will be playing in public parks up and down the country in the next ten years.
Of all the names newco sevco zombies frankenstein etc the name I like best is the one that annoys the huns most.
Rangers tribute act.
Kilmarnock are doomed – Bhoycott – no Huns or Celtic to subsidise them now…
well it seems the telegraph thinks that this fiasco started in feb and ended today
anybody like to disagree
February 13 – Rangers lodge their intention to go into administration at the Court of Session in Edinburgh.
February 14 – Rangers appoint administrators Duff and Phelps after a court battle with Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs. They are immediately docked 10 points by the Scottish Premier League, leaving them 14 behind Celtic.
Duff and Phelps reveal that HMRC lodged their petition to take Rangers into administration over the non-payment of about £9million PAYE and VAT since Craig Whyte’s 2011 takeover.
February 17 – The Scottish Football Association launch an independent inquiry into the activities of Rangers, specifically whether Whyte is fit and proper to hold a position in the game.
March 2 – The SFA confirm they will investigate claims made by former Rangers director Hugh Adam that payments made to players were not disclosed to the governing body.
March 5 – The SPL confirm that their board have instigated an investigation into the alleged non-disclosure of payments made to players by Rangers, which prompts the SFA to drop their case.
March 8 – The SFA declare Whyte is unfit to hold a position in football and confirm that the club is facing a charge of bringing the game into disrepute.
March 9 – Rangers administrators announce a package of wage cuts with players that prevent substantial job losses.
March 15 – The SFA issue Rangers with notices of complaint over alleged breaches of five disciplinary rules and Whyte over two alleged breaches.
April 4 – Duff and Phelps confirm they have received four bids for the club.
April 23 – Rangers receive a 12-month embargo on signing players and owner Craig Whyte is banned for life.
May 3 – American businessman Bill Miller granted preferred bidder status ahead of the Blue Knights consortium.
May 8 – Miller withdraws bid for Rangers.
May 11 – The Blue Knights withdraw their interest in buying Rangers after their noon ultimatum to Duff and Phelps passes.
May 13 – Administrators announce they have signed a binding contract to sell the club to a consortium led by former Sheffield United chief executive Charles Green.
May 16 – An SFA appeal tribunal rejects Rangers’ appeal against a £160,000 fine and 12-month transfer embargo.
May 29 – The SFA transfer ban is ruled unlawful in the Court of Session following a challenge from Rangers. Duff and Phelps publish Green’s Company Voluntary Arrangement (CVA) proposal to creditors.
May 30 – SPL clubs take on responsibility for deciding whether ‘newco’ clubs should be admitted to the competition but reject fixed penalties.
May 31 – Rangers’ administrators provide files requested by SPL in their investigation into undisclosed payments.
June 12 – HMRC announce they will reject the CVA offer and force the club into liquidation.
June 14 – Charles Green completes purchase of Rangers assets and business following the club’s liquidation, hours after a consortium led by former manager Walter Smith makes a late bid.
June 15 – Ally McCoist ends speculation about his future at the club following a meeting with Green.
June 18 – SPL confirm a vote on whether to admit newco Rangers to the league will take place on July 4, with provisional fixture list to be released replacing Rangers with ‘Club 12′.
June 19 – Walter Smith’s group officially end attempts to get Green to sell the club on to them, with Smith having also rejected an invite from Green to join the board.
June 21 – Bury reject reports they could be bought by Rangers as a way of getting the Ibrox club into English football.
June 22 – Hearts and Dundee United indicate their intention to vote against newco Rangers’ application to play in the SPL. Meanwhile, a judge at Edinburgh’s Court of Session orders a full report into allegations of a conflict of interest for club administrators Duff and Phelps.
June 24 – Scotland internationals Steven Whittaker and Steven Naismith reject a transfer to the newco and claim they are now free agents. Hibernian confirm they will oppose the newco application. Whittaker later signs for Norwich, with Naismith heading for Everton.
June 25 – The Crown Office instruct Strathclyde Police to conduct a criminal investigation into Whyte’s takeover and the subsequent financial management of the club.
Inverness and Aberdeen take the confirmed opponents to Green’s SPL application to five, the number needed to consign the newco club to start life outside the top flight.
June 26 – Steven Davis, Allan McGregor, Kyle Lafferty, Jamie Ness, Rhys McCabe, Sone Aluko, John Fleck and Juan Manuel Ortiz complete the list of players declining to transfer their contracts to newco Rangers. Lafferty duly signs for FC Sion and Ness for Stoke.
July 4 – Clydesdale Bank Premier League clubs vote “overwhelmingly” to reject the newco Rangers application after more than five hours of talks at Hampden.
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Have Spartans FC or anyone else also submitted an application to play in SFL next season?
If so, will SFL follow established rules regarding admittance or will they be “persuaded” by SPL/SFA to change rules to enable their preferred club to join?
Mort
steinreignedsupreme,
LOL ;)))),tea all over screen,
there is a whole episode of Only an Excuse in that one rant
Mort,
of course we do
Richie on 4 July, 2012 at 15:57:
“Der Bomber is on SSB tonight. I wonder if he will be challenged on his PL outburst?”
Naw. They’re too feart to ask him.
I’m sure he’ll be in full battle mode – fighting like a maniac to complete a full sentence.
Sounds like Kilmarnock abstained and everyone else apart from the oldhuns voted no
Well it is disappointing that Celtic never abstained but I dont believe STV or BBC Scotland
I suppose it was a moot point anyway and since the other 8 came out with No an abstention could be interpreted as hun support.
Hail Hail
How long will that hun clown Johnston survive at Killie?
Above should read mistakenly interpreted as hun support rather than disgust at the whole process
Hail Hail
timbhoy in spain,
when you gonna pick up that chopped pork? ;-)))
Cultsbhoy
I’ve replied, many thanks for that.
medtim on 4 July, 2012 at 15:20 said:
i think your idea has some merit and could be looked into, what about a new start of season game: spl winners vs. sfl select, played at the national stadium with monies gained going to sfl league clubs every season. family affair with £10 for adults £5 for con and under 16’s. this would generate regular and ongoing income for lower league clubs and would give all fans an opportunity to get behind a goo initiative to promote whats best in scottish football.
on another not,
most clubs in sfl 3 have capacities in excess of 3 thousand and as you go up the divisions the capacity increases further. if rangers newco start at the bottom and show their loyalty then most clubs, based on 3000 supporters at 15 pounds per head, will make 45,000 x 2 home games = 90,000 per season. in addition, they should all be able to increase sponsorship monies/ hospitality etc… and an increase in interest from t.v in their league.
against the on of 50k payment offered from the bastard deal and you soon see that the spl is attempting to shaft the lower league clubs. it would seems these clubs will actually gain from rangers dropping down and even the rangers fans (dont care about their reasoning) want to drop so no excuse for not getting behind newco.
remember there are play-offs in the sfl strucutre as well, so if a club moves up with newco they can look forward to another 90k at the gate and if rangers are in the play-offs then its going to be a massive pay day.
most second division clubs have a capacity of between 4 and 6 thousand so two games against newco could potentially lead to anything between 120k and180k, most of the frist division clubs have capacities of between 5 and 10 thousand and same applies.
so to recap enter newco into sfl 1 and the clubs in that league loss possibility of promotion and gain 50k for one season against 29 clubs receiving anything between at the least 90k (3000, gate x 2) to 200k (10,000, gate x 2). add the changes to financial distribution and ongong compensation from spl and i dont think many chairman will think having rangers start in division 3 will be a bad thing, what you think?
So its a toss up between Airdrie[ballantyne -RFCia shareholder] and brother Finlays Cowdenbeath as to who they consume next?..
Mort I like your proposals very much, in tune with the tone of a very good previuos post from BlantyreKev hh.
Oh and how many DAYS do they or whoever have to find another 8/9 players,agree deals with agents etc and front load funding for life in SFL 3?.not long at all..never mind the warring factions between Chuck Green and Bomber..its only just begun.!
GLASGOW CUP ANYONE?
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Dear Big Yinll Fix It
Would it be too much to ask for either the tax case outcome or the findings of the appeal panel as well this week?
either or both would do
thanks in advance
Are Killie touting for a takeover bid?
Spartans, Linthigow and at least 3 Highland League teams will be seeking a shot at SFL. All of whom have 3 years annual accounts. Cove rangers likely to be in the mix – sponsored by a very wealthy Aberdeen Oil family. THey also have plans drawn up for stadium.
It can not be assumed Hunco have it easy – they don’t have any favours to call in.
My impression is lower down the leagues they are quite cliquey
STV and BBC have just announced they will both show live and interrupted coverage, complete with in depth analysis and half time steak bake of all Dodo FCs home and away games in the forthcoming Ramsdens Fish Suppers Cup
ESPN under the direction of craig burley will transmit live pictures of the training sessions.
gordybhoy64 on 4 July, 2012 at 16:10 said:
timbhoy in spain,
when you gonna pick up that chopped pork? ;-)))
Very good Gordy,but I´m not coming all the way over to do it.
I´ll Paypal you the dosh & you´ll need to get it yourself.
Hail Hail