Delighted for Martin O’Neill on taking Ireland into the last 16 of the Euros. Since his salad days ended at Celtic, Martin’s had more downs than ups as a manager. I felt the game had moved on from him, even during his five years at Celtic, the game tactically moved away from him, but he’s one of a number of managers of small nations who have overachieved.
I’m not buying Roy Keane’s tears, though. Reaching the last 16 of the Euros is a great achievement, but he disparaged Mick McCarthy’s achievement with Ireland in going out of the 2002 World Cup in the last 16 to Spain on penalties. Maybe it’s time for some humility from Roy.
If anything, Michael O’Neill’s achievements with the north has been even greater. Michael was mentioned as a possible Celtic manager before Brendan’s appointment, but the point was made to me, whatever he achieved in qualifying, he could be embarrassed in all three Euros games. Now he needs to beat Wales for a place in the quarter finals.
The group stages have been a delight. Some big tactical lessons for underdogs, and for teams who face 10 men behind the ball every week. If you don’t make defensive mistakes you can win any game, possession and territorial advantage is a mirage of influence.
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A lovely sunny day in Southern Europe ..
Pound shop trumpery it is . . An act of folly . .The best example of cutting your nose off to spite your face ever . Sheep choosing their butcher – a far right , populist xenophobic butcher who will welcome the coming recession and get the knife sharpened up for the soon come cuts in social benefits / employment rights etc
Thankfully I have much to do ————— seeing cryptofascists like Marie Le Pen and the vile Salvini on the tele crowing with delight that the extreme right Trojan Horse has now got leverage in the UK fair turns the stomach .
Beefie @ 9.28
Is it cold under that bridge?
Ooooos,my post to MACJAY should have the last two paragraphs the other way round. It makes a modicum of sense that way.
Captain Beefy
In the mid 70s, following the 3 day week and rampant inflation, the National Front were polling at 20%.
Scapegoat politics and blaming the immigrant will always play well at times of economic “austerity”.
Whether UKIP enjoys any more long standing success depends on how many proto-fascists and poujadists are willing to hold their noses and get into bed with Farage and crew. The usual slimy suspects like Neil Hamilton and Jacob Rees-Mogg are already there or 90% there.
A revolt against the elites, eh?
ernie lynch on 24th June 2016 9:31 am
So lets have a roll call of all the people who are happy with the result. Feel free to add your own name name….
Tommy Mair
Nick Griffin
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You are coming across as a nasty piece of work, I always had so much respect for your knowledge.
I have been totally Honest about Everything, You couldn’t be arsed answering a question.
I’m now a Nick Griffin type?
Well Done ernie.
Ah well an act of wanton political vandalism which we can repent at our leisure.
Ernie let’s add Nigel Farage to your list. It’s already looking great isn’t it?
And of course we now have the SNP scrambling for another referendum on the back,of,claims its anti democratic because Scotland voted to stay (ignoring the irony of them ignoring the Scottish people’s much stronger will to vote against Scottish independence).
All the while the rise of the right and facism grows.
“England, that was wont to conquer others, Hath made a shameful conquest of itself.”
ShamCam being talked up by PM on the BBC was the end for me.
I know ShamCam always talked about himself as being the “heir to Blair”.
However you got the impression PM had just lost his favourite puppy.
This is why we are in the state we are in.
Student politicians playing political games amongst themselves.
They thought they had all the bases covered and then came the shameless populists.
Welcome to the politics of pure emotion — fact free to the last.
The only problem is that the emotions on show are not very appealing.
NEGANON
I seriously doubt a second Indy ref. It would be based on a return to the EU.
That would take about ten years. There wouldn’t be enough left of the country by then. It would have collapsed under the economic weight of independence.
Bring back Spitting Image….
Does anyone know if the Old Dear purred this morning?
Cameron to resign in October – Result!
AURORABOREALIS79 on 24TH JUNE 2016 8:46 AM
I want Ireland to be ruled by Ireland. What is wrong with Britain being ruled by Britain?
People need to calm down & accept it. I am not sharpest tool in the box but even I can see that £365 million per week outta the UK into Europe will a massive saving. Ofcourse some of this will be offset by other means but Europe needs Britain as much as Britain needs Europe
Farage already back tracking on 350 mil being spent on NHS etc.
Five legal points about the Leave victory
24th June 2016
1. The EU referendum result, by itself, has no legal impact. It was an advisory not a mandatory referendum. (See my FT post here.)
2. All UK law – including that drawn from the EU – remains in place today just as it was yesterday. Nothing in yesterday’s result affects the applicability or enforceability of any UK or EU law.
3. The legally significant thing is not the referendum result but any Article 50 notification. There is no indication any UK politician is any rush to press that “red button”. Once pressed, that will give a two year period before the UK leaves the EU (unless EU Member States unanimously agree otherwise). Any fundamental legal change as a result of the Leave vote will not (and cannot) be until 2018 at the earliest.
4. It is perfectly possible the Article 50 red button is never pressed – for example if there is a “new deal” and a second referendum. There is, after all, a tradition of EU-related referendums being repeated in Member States until there is the “correct” answer.
5. On available information, there is no plausible legal challenge to the referendum result.
AURORABOREALIS
Which delays the departure of the U.K. by four months. He’s leaving implication of Article 50 to the new PM
Which gives Big Business/EU/et al a bit of breathing space to try to get this overturned. Watch for bribes blackmail threats and other dirty work at the crossroads.
Neg2 @ 9.41
Prepare for some Nat on Nat action.
Wee Eck has an ego to massage and now he has a cause.
2014 Indy Ref — Leave vote @ 45%
15% = True believers.
The fair isle sweater brigade and the English haters.
15% = Economic Nats aka Greedy — the oil money to themselves.
Happy to steal the bread out of poor children in England / Wales.
15% = The lost, the lonely and the bewildered — at the bottom so any change is better.
The politics of emotion — no facts required.
That 45% will not show ap for a new referendum vote at $50 / 70 / 90 per barrel.
So the Leave vote will have ins and outs if it happens again.
And also we now have St Ruth as well as St Nic.
Plus a UKIP MEP and our most dynamic media duo is the Scum and the Forgers Gazette.
We are now living in interesting times.
NegAnon2,
I’m delighted the Political Establishment have been given a Kick in the Nuts.
No other Country could have challenged this EU thing.
Having internet problems,I blame Brexit,don’t worry
the Governor of the BOE has told us all that he has
£250B to prop up sterling…………must have stuck his
hands down the back of the couch.
George Galloway and Jezza will be happy as well.
Bobby. I think you will find there will be an indecent haste on behalf of the little scotlanders and we will have another Indy ref within the next 3 or 4 years.
Democracy only counts when they win.
And after all they have a minority to criminalise.
My poor kids. Jesus wept. All our poor children.
LIONROARS
As ever…
You have the same high opinion of our lords and masters as I do!
Off oot to harvest peaches .
Brief phone chat with my extremely pissed off 96 year old man ————-
” an absolute disaster ”
” hope the brickies who get the job of building the wall across Ireland are local ” .
UK MEPs distraught at the prospect of having to get off the gravy train at the next station!
HH!!
South of Tunis put it well.
Complete disaster if the exit actually happens although we will have to wait and see how that develops. A referendum decided after the most infantile and rancid debate that I can remember is not a victory for democracy. Those who set us on this path will have years to reflect and regret an irracional decision.
Time to apply for an EU passport.
Hopefully we’ll win the Champions League as I can’t see much else on the horizon to cheer about.
TALLYBHOY on 24TH JUNE 2016 9:18 AM
MACJAY1 FOR NEIL LENNON on 24TH JUNE 2016 9:12 AM
The people have spoken.
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Some were heard saying “Rule Britannia, God save the Queen and we are the people.”
HH!!
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Invoking their democratic right to freedom of speech.
You wouldn`t deny them that surely.
Petec I think you will find if you look a little harder that the political establishment have one. You know. The ones who slap each other’s backs at Eton and the like.
Are you looking forward to boris being prime minister and Nigel being foreign secretary?
Won’t that be nice?
The Leave vote is the 21st century children’s crusade.
The problem for BJ / MG is that they actually won — that was not in the script.
This was all about the runners and riders in the next Tory leadership election.
Honourable failure was the plan and now the hoi polloi have gone and blown it.
The whole Leave campaign was a sham from the start.
NF — wanted to shout establishment fix and Hoover up what his dog whistles had energised.
BJ — wanted the Tory grass roots love that 48% would have given him.
Now they will have to fix what they have broke.
Nicola was heard saying that she respects the will of the Scottish people (when they agree with her).
AURORABOREALIS79 on 24TH JUNE 2016 9:49 AM
Cameron to resign in October – Result!
Have previously posted following ditty from Boer War.
‘THERE ARE FORTY THOUSAND BASTARDS ON THE OLD TRANSVAAL AND ROOM FOR A MILLION MORE.
Johnson for Cameron a result. More like an own goal.
So, whit impact will all this hullabaloo
have on the sleekit-Celtic-PLC-Hierarchy ?
So basically, the voters were hoodwinked by a nasty right wing press and were unable to form,say, economic arguments to leave? Oh, and they are racists?
No wonder the English, a fine people, have had enough.
…phone-call…again…
Petec @ 9.50’ish
EU Ref — In or out? — You were an Out?
New Indy ref — Leave or stay in the UK?
Interesting times.
NEGANON
MAD MITCH is fairly close to my thoughts on it,mate. The economic argument didn’t add up before-with oil at record prices. They have been shown to be a sham.
The Nats have no other economic ammo.
Then,we were still in the EU,and wanted that to continue. Now-against our will,aye-we are not. So we have new and more difficult hurdles to clear,on a longer timescale.
A second Indy ref will not happen,mate. We have been right royally screwed by all sides. The only good thing to come out of it is that some of those responsible for the kicking are feeling the effects of a right good kicking too.
NegAnon2 on 24th June 2016 9:57 am
Petec I think you will find if you look a little harder that the political establishment have one. You know. The ones who slap each other’s backs at Eton and the like.
Are you looking forward to boris being prime minister and Nigel being foreign secretary?
Won’t that be nice?
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Truth be known, No. Scotland said Remain, Scotland will be the last on their minds, unless they are visionaries. Fingers crossed.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 24TH JUNE 2016 9:30 AM
Sorry for the delay.
Just exited for a few coldies. :-)
Democracy. The key.
The ivory towered ones don`t live with the consequences of their decisions.
They enjoy a complete detach.
The Rochdale punters do and they are entitled to voice their opinion.
No matter how it may be viewed by the political correctos.
ERNIE LYNCH on 24TH JUNE 2016 9:31 AM
So lets have a roll call of all the people who are happy with the result. Feel free to add your own name name….
Tommy Mair
Nick Griffin
Che Guevara
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 24TH JUNE 2016 9:53 AM
AURORABOREALIS
Which delays the departure of the U.K. by four months. He’s leaving implication of Article 50 to the new PM
Which gives Big Business/EU/et al a bit of breathing space to try to get this overturned. Watch for bribes blackmail threats and other dirty work at the crossroads.
I understand that it all ain’t so straightforward.
More likely we will see a crash of the UK Economy in the near future before they rerun the better together mantra with big cardboard cutouts of a smirking Cameron & the Caption ‘I told you so!’.