Delighted for Martin O’Neill on taking Ireland into the last 16 of the Euros. Since his salad days ended at Celtic, Martin’s had more downs than ups as a manager. I felt the game had moved on from him, even during his five years at Celtic, the game tactically moved away from him, but he’s one of a number of managers of small nations who have overachieved.
I’m not buying Roy Keane’s tears, though. Reaching the last 16 of the Euros is a great achievement, but he disparaged Mick McCarthy’s achievement with Ireland in going out of the 2002 World Cup in the last 16 to Spain on penalties. Maybe it’s time for some humility from Roy.
If anything, Michael O’Neill’s achievements with the north has been even greater. Michael was mentioned as a possible Celtic manager before Brendan’s appointment, but the point was made to me, whatever he achieved in qualifying, he could be embarrassed in all three Euros games. Now he needs to beat Wales for a place in the quarter finals.
The group stages have been a delight. Some big tactical lessons for underdogs, and for teams who face 10 men behind the ball every week. If you don’t make defensive mistakes you can win any game, possession and territorial advantage is a mirage of influence.
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The only argument for leave that was worth reading was in the link below, the rest was Tory propaganda pash, the formidable tory party machine playing the game of keeping the tories dominating English politics it has succeeded we can now look forward to a Boris Johnson/Gove government
https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-1bff-Why-the-Morning-Star-supports-a-Leave-vote#.V20CefkrK00
We’ve made our bed and now we will have to lie in it. I just hope there’s not a spring sticking up in my bit.
Jon Snow @jonsnowC4 2m2 minutes ago
Britain slips from 5th largest economy to 6th (behind growth-less France) in the space of five hours
I’m a labour man originally, until the loyalists/RUC tried to burn us to the back of the bus in ’69. I’ve been a trade union rep both for my trade and my teachers (NUFTO/NASUWT). Belfast has become a more colourful place because of immigration, no pun intended. There are a lot of people, however, who do not want uncontrolled emigration. It’s not Racism, rather a lot of people wondering where the money is coming from for all the support systems needed. Scotland seems to be a one topic nation-in or out. Much like the Referendum really. Again, where is the money coming from?
So, who would Brendan drop fom the team to make space for, Joe Allen ?
Is Joe Allen as guid as, Scott Allen ?
Does JA have the mental-capacity to play for the Cellic ?
Does Brendan have the mental-capacity to manage the Cellic ?
How would we know ?
fom=from
The Daily Record couldn’t even wait one day for the shell-shock to wear off … they’ve already got Brexit as a bad thing for Celtic and other Scottish clubs. Except one. Guess which one that is? Utter, utter, utter bollocks.
http://thecelticblog.com/2016/06/blogs/daily-record-ludicrously-suggests-that-brexit-could-hurt-celtic/
http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/confession/26416
For many this WAS a vote about Europe, but for as many it was a vote about dispossession amid constant images of largesse and greed. For them we have failed to represent the true costs of policies that ensure that economic recovery is somehow, of necessity, underpinned by a tightening of their belts.
They are the many who have never had a pay rise in a decade. They are the many who have been forced to tighten their belts amid cuts in benefits upon which they depend, and who have suffered a severe reduction in many of the services that we the Metropolitan folk can remedy by purchasing.
Worse there has been a failure to recognise the feelings of these self-same communities who feel they are being “swamped” by immigrants who would work for less, and yet have access to the very services that are already in ever shorter supply. Easy pickings for politicians determined to blame Europe for all Britain’s failings.
If the UK is allowed to end this day thinking that it was only about Europe, we shall never address the true scale of alienation in which we live. This is a wake-up call – calling upon us to reach out to towns like Barnsley in Yorkshire, Boston in Lincolnshire and great tracts of Wales in the west, and many other places and sections of society.
The woeful campaigns by both Leave and Remain have allowed us to blame the ‘other’ without ever looking at ourselves. Race, religion, class and more have all played their part in the most unpleasant domestic political campaign most of us have ever witnessed.
The referendum challenges us to render our democratic institutions more truly representative of and responsive to who we are and the lives we lead.
This must become a day for renewal. Let negotiations with Europe take their course, they will not resolve the crisis at the heart of our own society. A government enjoying 36.9 per cent of a General Election vote has to begin accept that it governs for us all, whatever our condition or our politics.
Dangerous choices lie ahead. We can survive them and prosper if we begin to understand and act upon what this referendum has told us. Act now to reverse the consequences of austerity and cuts. We can only prosper if we all share the burden of bringing us all through to a fairer and more egalitarian future.
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RAYMAC on 24TH JUNE 2016 10:59 AM
There are a lot of people, however, who do not want uncontrolled emigration. It’s not Racism, rather a lot of people wondering where the money is coming from for all the support systems needed.
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A perfectly reasonable point of view.
What would happen if,……
Scotland went independent but,….
the SNP were to lose they’re majority ?
Can that happen ?
OOT wi the butchers apron!
Play the lo-o-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-g game.
Taurangabhiy all that agriculture and whiskey eh? We will be grand. Maybe we can do a deal with the eu to export loads of shortbread.
But hey let’s not let democracy get in the way of your wishes.
Raymac there are heaps of Countries with less than 5.5 million people who are quite capable of running their Ian economy. Ireland and New Zealand where I live are two basic examples. I find it insulting that some people think Scots are not capable enough to run a Country with abundant natural resources. I have much more faith in Scotland’s ability. We are not Westminster beggars.
Kev J-Joe Allen is well out with our price range,he will get £50k + a week from his new club HH
TAURANGABHOY
I’ll disagree with you on Norway for oil and existing Sovereign Wealth Fund reasons.
Their forestry and hydro industries are also better developed. Also fishing. Top ten per capita GDP
Sweden? Again,developed forestry and hydro along with iron ore and engineering,top ten per capita GDP?
Denmark,this is one I’m not so sure of. But I’m sure they’re big in engineering and chemicals manufacturing. AND farming obviously,fisheries. Again near top ten per capita GDP.
I’m not trying to run Scotland down,J. Far from it. Point is that these countries have a long history of investment in their infrastructure and in the welfare and wellbeing of their population.
And,particularly,in their education.
WE DO NOT.
Much of that is down to our early reliance on heavy industry,and then to its destruction.
These countries,yes,they are what we should aspire to. But look where they are now. Look where we are now.
To compare us with them is not realistic,mate. They have a start of generations,and they have a start of a mindset.
Kevjungle when Scotland does go independent I fully expect the SNP to lose there majority.
Nega that doesn’t make any sense. Who do our primary producers trade with right now? It will be the same trading partners and the same products. Take it you are in the Scotland depends on English people’s money. That would be sad if it was anywhere close to the truth. I have a lot if belief in Scotland’s workers and people.
!!BADA BING!! on 24TH JUNE 2016 11:06 AM
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Hail Hail fella, hope yer well.
Because he’s out our price range dizny mean that he’s good enough.
Ross McCormack is also out out price range.
Is he good enough to play for Celtic ?
out=our
Confidence in Celtic
Kieran signs on for 5 years
https://t.co/19ef13J1xt
HH
TAURANGABHOY on 24TH JUNE 2016 11:10 AM
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Hail Hail fella, hope yer well.
So, we could ‘use’ the SNP to get a referendum then,
dump them ?
Sounds guid ;)
HH
JAMES FORREST on 24TH JUNE 2016 11:02 AM
The Daily Record couldn’t even wait one day for the shell-shock to wear off … they’ve already got Brexit as a bad thing for Celtic and other Scottish clubs. Except one. Guess which one that is? Utter, utter, utter bollocks.
History suggests that if the Daily Rag I’d reporting it then the opposite is true.
Goodbye Sevco
TAURANGABHOY
MACJAY
Thanks,lads. Aye there’s always one. Turns out he was meeting friends.
Interesting discussion,hence the delay in my response to TB’s Sottish economy post.
Please believe me when I say that I do not have any pleasure in saying that we will struggle badly if independent. Truth is,I believe it to be the case only because of decades of strangulation and scorched earth by Westminster.
But that is where we are.
AN TEARMANN on 24TH JUNE 2016 11:11 AM
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Thanks for sharing that fella, hope yer guid.
Excellent, just excellent.
Hail Hail
Tranagabhoy of course Scotland could run its own country. That was and is never in question. But living in Scotland I see the people who would run Scotland. I see the institutional racism at work.
But never mind what I think. Just two short years ago Scotland gave a very clear decision. Unambiguous. 2 years ago.
Ypu and your il didn’t like that result. So people like you, who want Scotland to run its own affairs, don’t respect the democratic will of the Scottish people.
How can I trust you and your ilk to run a country responsibly and with respect.
Quite frankly it’s laughable.
Celtic confirm Kieran Tierney has signed a new five-year deal. https://t.co/oi0bQBSFRi
Kevjungle exactly democracy in action.
Bobby I know you find sites with the opposite facts but take a look at the first site I googled for Scottish economy
http://www.businessforscotland.co.uk/10-key-economic-facts-that-prove-scotland-will-be-a-wealthy-independent-nation/
It would not be instant or gaurenteed but what can we lose that we won’t under a Boris trump led government. We have as much ability as the Scandies and should have more pride in ourselves. Not a bridge too far. Got to start somewhere. Ok to disagree mate. Hail hail.
I’ve never known a Britain that wasn’t in recession.
Austerity to get the poor folk to pay back the bankers
‘swallied’ £millions, starting wars at the drop of a hat,
FLUK Brittania…..imho.
Taurangabhoy.
Democracy in action!
Only when you like the action eh?
Kev J-I am well thank you,McCormack is the poor man’s Moloney,because of the ridiculous money down south,we are going to see truly mental prices for players,Troy Deeney was valued at £30mil yesterday……keep fighting the good fight sir HH
…mair-phone-calls……
Ernie/Neganon
Any comment on missing an open goal?
re fascist scum eton educated at war and Labour hardly comment.
It is sad dont you think hardly any case made for the lefts point of view
i blame us.old lazy apathetic us,
xenaphobic insecurities focussed on, whilst explanations for the value of pensions being shat down in value,happenin right now were avoided.
As S.o.T points out they now have the blame of a samurai in their war on the poor and weak
but democracy has spoken.whatever that is!
AN TEARMANN on 24TH JUNE 2016 11:11 AM
Keiran.
NOW we`re talking.
Plays for the jersey.
Ten more please.
Roll call of cryptofascists crowing about the result on the tele continues .
Just seen the delightful Beatrix Von Storch rejoicing in the victory for the populist right . Who she ?
A right wing German populist MEP.who was turfed out of the Conservative Group in the European Parliament for stating that the solution to Europe’s migrant problem was to shoot them..
Now it’s Trump beaming and high fiving at Turnberry —-
Back to work – thankfully !!!!!
Nega if you fear the worst that’s what you will get. Believe in the best and it might surprise you. There are more than a few rotten eggs in any Countries politicians and sure Scotland has a fair share of bam pots but ….but it has a fair share of fair minded people too. Some blue noses helped my brother stand up against a bigoted Masonic moron who almost had him framed up. Yet people who fear these loonies vote in exactly the same way they vote for a union with the Westminster con artists. Boris us no friend of Scotland.
blade
RE-Indy2
Timing will be everything – diving two feet first into the tackle ( Salmond Style) will result in a red card. Sturgeon (more astute and with better political judgement ) will let matters settle and take a measured view. Her considerations will include the form, shape and composition of the EU going forward as other members consider their ‘exit’ options, accepting that our currency would be the Euro (there is no other possibility), recognising that the Euro Central Bank will be the lender of last resort, and generally making the economic case which at present is far from clear.
Cobbling something together, prevaricating on core economic issues, get it over the line then make a fist of things as best we can, will not be acceptable in any Indy2. That – I suspect – is now inevitable but is likely 2/3 years away. Frying pan to fire is a possibility most Scots will wish to exclude and after the anger and emotion of the Brexit vote subsides the intellectual rigour of Indy2 arguments from the SNP will be carefully scrutinised. Assertions, contentions and untested best case scenarios will struggle to persuade the majority in Scotland.
There are increasingly times in my life when I despair for the world. Last night’s Brexit vote was one such occasion.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 24TH JUNE 2016 11:15 AM
TAURANGABHOY
MACJAY
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I have as much confidence in my fellow Jocks as Tauranga.
A few caveats , however.
The Craft and industrial harmony.
Nega I respect the decision of the majority even if I don’t like it. Democracy is not static we test it every four years for government why not test it for our destiny. I do agree that two years is too short a time , however when brexit comes to its conclusion in three more then that 5 years us not an unreasonable time to put democracy back on the menu…or do you disagree ?
Philboy
Enjoy the Fair. The Councils money is going elsewhere.
Cash Strapped Falkirk Council To Subsidise Orange Walk
http://snp-falkirk.co.uk/?p=2579
Falkirk Town Centre Road closures 25 June 2016
http://www.falkirk.gov.uk/news/article.aspx?aid=3935