RES 12 – The journey so far and the journey to come

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I have been in touch with a few of the Resolution 12 guys this week, and ‘Brogan, Rogan, Trevino and Hogan’, offered to write a synopsis, as some of the matters which have appeared on social media in recent days required clarification.

Thanks to the BRTH, and the rest of the guys, who I understand all approved the article. It reads:
“There is a great deal of chat on social media this week about Res 12 which was tabled and adjourned at the 2012 AGM of Celtic PLC, and so I want to clarify a couple of things which Paul has allowed me to do here

As a reminder, the exact terms of the resolution are to be found here:

This AGM requests the Board exercise the provision contained in the Procedural Rules governing the UEFA Club Financial Control Body Article 10 with jurisdiction and investigation responsibilities identified in articles 3 & 11 (Note-1), by referring/bringing to the attention of the UEFA Club Financial control Body (CFCB), the licensing administration practices of The Scottish Football Association (SFA), requesting the CFCB undertake a review and investigate the SFA’s implementation of UEFA & SFA license compliance requirements, with regard to qualification, administration and granting of licenses to compete in football competitions under both SFA and UEFA Jurisdiction, since the implementation of the Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations of 2010.

While the Celtic PLC Board originally viewed the resolution as unnecessary, once further consideration of the issues raised by the shareholders had been examined, the Celtic board changed their mind and agreed to adjourn the resolution with a view to working with the shareholders representatives by investigating the procedures complained of and making enquiries of the SFA.

In the intervening period of time, there have been numerous meetings and consistent correspondence between those shareholders and officials of Celtic PLC, all with a view to furthering the aims of Res 12, and there is no doubt that the Celtic board have played a full part in taking the resolution to where it now stands.

Whilst the investigation process was slow, both shareholders and the board were satisfied that there was merit in seeking answers from the SFA, as previous responses to earlier enquiries from Celtic PLC were not convincing or sufficiently detailed.

Working together, the board and the shareholders have seen to it that formal letters of enquiry have been sent to the SFA, together with various pieces of documentation and supporting evidence.

Through the shareholders’ lawyers, the SFA were asked to answer specific detailed questions in relation to their procedures, however the SFA responded by saying they would not answer any questions other than through the “member club” i.e. the board of Celtic PLC.

This raises an issue for all football supporters – especially those who are shareholders in a football club – and it begs the question whether or not supporters and shareholders should be able to hold a governing body to account in the event of maladministration.

I believe they should but that is a bigger issue for another day and it will be revisited in due course.

However, what is most important for everyone to know is that there can be no doubt that serious questions have been asked, were asked of the right people and were backed up by documentation prepared in conjunction with the board of Celtic PLC.

I have seen speculation yesterday that perhaps Celtic did not fully know of what was going on or that somehow there had not been full and forensic research completed into the matters concerned etc, or that Celtic PLC have done nothing to back the resolution. All of that is simply not true and at all times the Celtic PLC board have been party to, and have played their part in, the entire process.

The whole purpose of writing to the SFA in the first place was to afford the powers that be within Hampden the chance to avoid a potential enquiry by UEFA into the way that they handled UEFA licence applications in 2011.

The SFA did not take that chance and ducked answering the detailed legal questions put to them by the Shareholders’ solicitors and instead chose to respond saying they would only explain matters to Celtic PLC and their board.

It would now appear that the SFA are prevaricating (again) in giving any meaningful response to Celtic PLC and so, after a period of silence, the obvious next stage in the process is to make formal enquiries and investigations through UEFA.

At the outset, both the board and the shareholders agreed that this would be the inevitable outcome if the SFA were not full, frank and forthright in providing any response.

Both the Celtic PLC board and the shareholders wish the matter to be referred to UEFA at this time, that is agreed, especially as there is a need to ensure that there is no prospect of any investigation being time barred by the UEFA rules which place a five year time limit for proceedings.

However, it is here that there is a divergence of opinion between the board and the shareholders. The shareholders believe that any reference to UEFA should come from the club, while the club would prefer the shareholders to refer the matter to UEFA in line with the previous enquiries made to the SFA.

However, I stress both parties have stated they want the matter placed before the appropriate UEFA committee.

As of yesterday, it was agreed that the Shareholders will formally write to UEFA via their solicitors, but they believe that ultimately this will be, and should be, a matter for the club as it is undoubtedly the case that any complaint to UEFA will have to make reference to the correspondence and answers already provided to Celtic PLC via the SFA.

There is also no doubt that whoever refers the matter to UEFA, that same body will end up having to make enquiries of Celtic PLC as it was to Celtic that the SFA said they would reply, and it was to Celtic PLC that the SFA gave previous replies by way of correspondence.

Accordingly the board will have to advise UEFA quite clearly what those replies entailed, comment on the matters raised in the shareholders letter, and whether or not they, as a board, are satisfied with the replies provided to the board by the SFA.

Accordingly, once the matter goes to UEFA there is no prospect of the Celtic Board not being further involved.

What is also quite clear is that once the shareholders have referred the matter to UEFA, there is very little else they can do as an independent body. They have taken this as far as they can, have worked with the PLC board, engaged independent solicitors and formally presented questions to the SFA together with supporting documentation and all with the help and support of the board of Celtic PLC.

If there is a clamour for greater representation and accountability for the ordinary football fan then they can lend their support to that – irrespective of what team the fan may support.

However, in relation to the particulars of Res 12, the shareholders have approached the board, worked with the board ( and acknowledge that the board have worked with them ) but ultimately it is for the PLC to take these matters to their final conclusion as the board of directors represent the whole PLC and speak with a far stronger corporate voice.

That was the whole purpose of the resolution in the first place.”

If I (Paul67) can add a few comments….

People in public or quasi-public bodies don’t get sacked as often for making mistakes as for the subsequent cover up.  I have seen evidence which suggests the SFA was duped (to borrow a term) by a member club in 2011 regarding their Uefa eligibility application.

No information was available to the Association at the time which could have substantiated this, but evidence has come to light since through legal and liquidation processes, and more will be presented at court in due course.  The SFA’s failure to critically assess what happened in 2011 feels like a cover up.  When you start a cover up, you better be in total control, or you end up getting sacked.

The Resolution 12 guys have done a magnificent job (as did one significant other person in bringing information to the attention of the police and other authorities).  In the early days they worked blind, but they have become the most effective pressure group in Scottish football.

At the start of this process no one expected anything better from the SFA, it was always a process which was going to end up with Uefa, or an actual court of law.  Despite the wishes of those at Hampden, the ball is still in play.

Leave your suggestions on better communications below, I’ve heard little else over the last 24 hours and agree entirely.

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The purpose of this is to improve performance, which is currently unsatisfactory.  The new system will allow WordPress to operate more efficiently, and will allow me to up the resources available in future more easily.

Even after the new servers are active there will be a delay before everyone can find the site through the celticquicknews.co.uk domain name.  I’ll post updates on Twitter ( @cqn ) and Facebook, with the IP address (a series of numbers and full stops which can be used instead of the domain name).  This will take you straight to the site once we’re through the other side.

Fingers crossed.

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  1. Drambowiecelt on

    In Vain?? aye right……

     

    You must arise????

     

    What next we kneel before you?///

     

     

     

     

     

    H.H.

  2. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    DRAMBOWIECELT on 12TH MARCH 2016 1:57 AM

     

     

    I said nothing of the sort.

     

     

    Please check back .Approx 24 hrs ago. `GG expressed a sentiment similar to that.

     

     

    It was I who took exception to the use of the term by a third party.

     

    Simply because it is not a term which should be bandied about FLIPPANTLY.

     

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfwN0X8YnWo

     

     

    Affoot.

  3. Drambowiecelt on

    @MACJAY…..You could have said….

     

    iv’e been disheartened .Im sad, Im Belittled. over the last 24hrs…

     

    Check what you chose to reveal……

     

     

     

     

    H.H.

  4. Drambowiecelt on

    OOft back to the music…

     

    Any nice links……..

     

    Say.Jackson Browne??

     

     

     

     

     

    H.H.

  5. Round the World the Truth will Echo.

     

     

    Painted Moon.

     

     

    C’mon the Glasgow Celtic, c’mon Every Celtic player. C’mon Ronny Deeeee, dinnae be like another Tony Mowbray.

     

     

    The Hopes and aspirations of the Celtic Massive are massive, I Believe in you still.

     

     

    The Board better do the Right thing in the next few days.

  6. So the Res12 opinions were derailed by a server update.

     

    I look forward to instant response times tomorrow for the Firhill game.

     

    Has the heat and fervour diminished?

     

    Do we move on to another topic to beat up the board?

  7. From Official site. http://www.celticfc.net/news/10181

     

    Scott Brown

     

    By: Paul Cuddihy on 11 Mar, 2016 15:31

     

     

    SCOTT Brown knows what it takes to win a league title. He’s done it five times already during his Celtic career, so his experience in the dressing-room will be vital over the next couple of months as the Hoops chase what would be their fifth championship in a row.

     

    It’s all about winning at this stage of the campaign and Ronny Deila’s side will be aiming to collect three points this Saturday when they take on Partick Thistle at Firhill.

     

    And Brown, whether beforehand in the dressing-room or in his pre-match Huddle pep talk, will be emphasising to his team-mates the need to win this Glasgow derby.

     

    “We’re Celtic so we should be winning the league no matter what,” he said. “That’s why I joined the club all those years ago and it’s why all the lads are coming into the dressing-room. They want that league as much as anybody does.

     

    “We need to go out there and keep winning games and keep getting points on the board. Sometimes it doesn’t need to be pretty football, it can be ugly, but three points is three points and hopefully we can get five-in-a-row.”

     

    Celtic’s lead at the top of the Scottish Premiership was reduced to one point following Aberdeen’s midweek victory at Firhill, albeit the Hoops now have a game in hand and a vastly superior goal difference.

     

    And while pre-match media conferences are already dominated by questions from journalists about the forthcoming Scottish Cup semi-final, Brown and his Celtic team-mates know they are plenty of vital fixtures facing them before they visit the National Stadium.

     

    “We’ve got a competitive edge now, with Aberdeen just a point behind us, although we’ve got a game in hand,” the Celtic skipper said. “It’s competitive week in, week out. It doesn’t matter who you play, every game just now, at this stage of the season is a huge game for us and we should be thriving on it.

     

    “And from now on there should be no excuses for us. We need to go out there and keep winning games and keep getting points on the board

  8. Delaneys Dunky on 12th March 2016 1:00 am

     

     

    Petec

     

     

     

     

    Thank you for your kind words regarding my mammy.

     

     

     

     

    I have been listening to the new Massive Attack four track EP constantly. Immense sonics. I believe you are correct. Celtic Football Club are under a Massive Attack fae the forces of darkness. I will be in Firhill tomorrow supporting our team to 5 in a row. Only happened once before in my 50 years. Let’s celebrate!

     

     

     

     

    HH

     

    ………………………………………………….

     

     

    South of Tunis deserves all the plaudits there. I had no idea until he dropped it on CQN.

     

     

    C’mon the Leather Belts indeedi.

  9. 1 hour 40 minutes of downtime.

     

    What did everyone do?

     

    It coincided with my dinner.

     

    Fish, of course it’s a Friday in Lent after all.

  10. Delaneys Dunky on

    Petec

     

     

    My son Ryan and I look forward to the Massive Attack show in Benicassim this July.

     

    Masters of their art.

  11. Nesta

     

     

    Quality.

     

     

    Iniesta

     

     

    Top Drawer.

     

     

    Fitba players. Hunt the Huns down, and we know the SFA furnish Uefa – Hugh Dallas got a job there FFS.

     

     

    C’mon Ronny be Brave. That Borrusia Dortmund CENTRAL defender he makes 0.7 fouls a game according to the commentator, he said he is a Real fitba player and he is but his stats would be off the chart if he played for Celtic in Hatesville.

  12. Delaneys Dunky,

     

     

    Superb.

     

     

    One thing that really struck a chord with me, and Aidan’s Mum had went through hell when the Social tried to take her 3 kids off her…… By chance this track came on the tracklist in the car and she started Singing along.

     

     

    If you hurt whats mine – I sure will retaliate

     

     

    Hurt our Celtic at yer peril Celtic Board.

  13. Margaret McGill on

    one thing before April 1st. I would like to think as a Celtic supporter I made you all laugh and all hate me at the same time. Thats the idea! :)

  14. Margaret McGill,

     

     

    FFS, you know Kojo Loves you and I know you Loved him.

     

     

    Quality performers, humans, both ridiculously intelligent.

     

     

    I hate you both. :D

  15. Maggie…

     

     

    In recent years there have been few things/posters that have drawn me back. You are one. Thanks for the smiles.

     

     

     

    They were needed.

     

     

    HH

  16. Delaneys Dunky on

    M McG

     

    Your posts always bring a smile to my face. Please don’t hate, pity the unfortunates.

  17. Big Peat of Islay on

    Is it not time for an updated version of Wullie Maley, complete with zombie verses and liquidation reprises?

  18. Big Peat of Islay on

    “It is up to us, to everyone at Celtic Park, to build up our own legends. We don’t want to live with history, to be compared with legends from the past. We must make new legends.”

     

     

    Time for change CFC

  19. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Seems to be a problem with logging in and posting from Ipad.

     

     

    Gordon64,

     

    A demonstration at the main stand on the surface sounds a good idea but I don’t think it would take much for a few dedicated agent provocateurs to turn it into a problem with it being recorded as an unruly mob making violent protest, to completely shift the focus away from the goal.

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