The SFA Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal sit for the first time today to examine Rangers Uefa licence application in 2011, the subject of which was picked up by the ‘Res 12’ group of Celtic shareholders. This application was made under Craig Whyte’s memorable tenure which saw the club withhold tax payments before the eventual appointment of liquidators.
Evidence of what took place was eventually heard in open court, at Whyte’s trial in Glasgow last year. Rangers did not declare to the SFA they failed to make tax payments and should not have been granted a Uefa licence. As a consequence, Celtic, who finished second in the league that year, were denied a chance to participate in the Champions League qualifiers.
So far, so clear, but then the matter becomes subject to issues not heard in court, specifically the Five Way Agreement between the SFA, the (now defunct) Scottish Football League, the Scottish Premier League (now the Scottish Professional Football League), oldco Rangers (now also defunct) and Sevco Scotland (now newco Rangers).
This Agreement gave Sevco Scotland associate membership of the SFA and a place in the Scottish Football League in return for accepting some, though not all, of Rangers football penalties. Newco When the SFA announced this Tribunal, Newco did not contest the guilt of Oldco, instead suggesting they had agreement of immunity on this matter. The SFA clearly believe differently.
The Judicial Panel will first decide on its competency to hear the matter, based on whatever partial immunity Charles Green secured for Newco in 2012. If the terms of the immunity is not sufficient to exempt the worst excesses of Craig Whyte, the panel’s punishment of Oldco will apply to Newco.
The extent of this one is significant, effectively cheating to gain entry to the Champions League. I expect nothing less than a multi-year ban from European competition.
You will notice people switch seats of the Newco/Oldco debate with this subject.
Craig Whyte appointed administrators who would release the name ‘Rangers’ and associated intellectual property to Newco, unlike administrators at Airdrieonians in 2002, who refused the then Clydebank to rename themselves Airdrieonians. The name was subsequently changed to Airdrieonians in 2013.
Whyte’s plan was to buy the brand name from Rangers administrators and put the Scottish football authorities on the spot. In buying the assets from the administrators, Green had control of the name by the time of the Five Way Agreement, and he accepted some liabilities as a price for entry on the nod into Scottish football.
This resulted in a debate that will never end. Newco claim continuity with Oldco when selling tickets, but not so much at times like this. No ‘Say No to liquidation’ banners were noted in the asset register.
Green claimed Sevco Scotland “bought the history” from administrators Duff and Phelps (you will not be surprised to learn ‘the history’ was not on the asset list purchased). Now lawyers for Green’s one-time rival for Oldco’s assets will try to fortify his work.
We’ll see if Dave King’s recent sabre-rattling has been effective.
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yes if we win 10 they will be sick but at 1 in a row they should have been dead!
That fat Argentinian caricature just cracks me up.
BIG-CUP-WINNERS on 26TH JUNE 2018 1:04 PM
THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY
Do you actually remember the 2nd game and how events occurred ? The score times will help you……..
I remember it well. We lost 4-3. A game lasts for 90 minutes + time added for injuries. It ends when the referee blows the final whistle. We lost that game by a single goal. How do you think the Astana fans felt when they watched the game at Celtic Park?
Aaaaargh Kev J! Will you just go and support another team…Please?
We’ve been linked to this boy – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ito3c4GVcsc
Muchos apologetico if it’s been mentioned earlier, I rarely get the chance to catch up on here. However, I remember tuning into the odd game or 2 when he was with Hull and thought he was no bad.
H.H. One and all and GB&GN
JoJo67 on KDS posted –
CELTIC could offer former Hull City right-back Moses Odubajo a shock chance to revive his career.
The ex-England under-20 international has spent TWO YEARS out of the game through injury.
But the 24-year-old last night jetted into Austria for talks with Brendan Rodgers and could join Celtic on a free – should all go well.
Odubajo joined Hull from Brentford for £3.5million in 2015 – and was an instant hit with his dynamic displays.
But his last competitive game was in the 2016 Championship play-off final – enduring 24 months of injury hell since.
Odubajo underwent three knee operations after being crocked in a pre-season friendly against Grimsby Town.
Now fully fit, the full-back last week confirmed he was quitting the KCOM Stadium at the end of his deal on June 30.
And Rodgers has wasted little time in inviting the defender over for talks at Celtic’s pre-season camp near Linz.
The Celtic boss is in the market for a new right-back and is exploring the possibility of offering Odubajo a deal.
It’s understood he WON’T train with the Hoops in Austria – but talks are expected to continue in the coming days.
If all goes well, Odubajo could be handed the chance to resurrect his promising career in Scotland.
Celtic face Vorwarts Steyr in Austria tonight – but Scott Brown and Jonny Hayes could miss the friendly after sitting out training.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/moses-odubajo
Lying King is a prick.
The SFA are a bunch of pricks.
The less I hear of both the better I feel.
So Saudi Arabia are out
Egypt are out
Iran are out
England are the only Islamic country left in the World Cup
TOSB
Remember it well do you ?
Succulent Lamb huns and truculent tripe tims.
OldFirmRusCSC
Today’s the day our season starts.
Priase be to God.
‘GG, whats happening today?
BMCUW & DD
Good morning!
It’s time to get up for work!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu6–WBPBHo
2 more sleeps ;-)
JTT53
Good morning from the 1A bus in Clydebank, heading to work.
YNWA
Morning Tims…
I see we are having a look at Moses , thats good because if anyone can bring us 10 its got to be him ?….
H.H
Hearing McGinn deal moving closer. Expect it done within a week.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Good morning good ghuys and ghirls from a warm but hazy Garngad
That was a good point Jobo made yesterday about 3 of our back 4 being at the World Cup and why most us think we need to add to our defence. I still think we need a n experienced centre back and cover at right back. I think Ralston could do a job right enough.
Good luck to SA in his gold digging exploits.
HH
D. :)
Good luck to Stuart Armstrong with his new club. Always a shame to see a good player leave our club.
However, we did just get £7m for a player who wasn’t a guaranteed starter in our midfield next season. A great piece of business on our part or a reflection of spiralling transfer fee inflation down south? I suspect the latter but it does perhaps indicate a growing confidence in the standard of player we have on offer.
We have money in the bank so let’s bring some extra quality into the first team.
cv
HUNDERBIRDS ARE GONE on 26TH JUNE 2018 10:07 PM
Messi? What’s all the fuss about?
I scored in my teens, my twenties and my thirties. Forties and fifties too.
Big Jimmy is scoring in his sixties.
Keepitup CSC
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Cheers mate, that just reminded me of how I am such a Lucky Bhoy…not that I need reminding ?
I used to be 7 times a night…but now that I am in my early 60’s, Ive had to cut down to 6. LOL !
A 95 year old man goes to the Doctor.
Man…” Doc I am 95 years old, and last week I married a 22 year old gorgeous, sex mad woman”.
Doc…” Too much sex can damage a persons health”.
Man…” I know Doc….but if she Dies…..she Dies” !
HH
The above is NOT a sexist joke, any woman can turn that joke around,to suit. LOL.
HH
50 Shades Smiley hing!
Morning all.
My main bet came up last night as I had Argentina 2 V Nigeria-1…Correct score.
I was in my local Boozer and I didn’t see the whole game, but who cares ? LOL
HH
DD,
Clydebank. I remember in the 1960s going to visit an auntie and uncle in Hardgate or Duntocher, not sure which. But in the bus from city centre in Glasgow, to their place, we passed all the huge shipyards.
They took us to see the Antonine wall.
Reading the ‘great players I’ve seen’ has been very interesting for an old yin like me as it reminds me of when I actually saw them.
My man for the ‘What a player he was title’ is Ferenc Puskas,he of the Hungarian Army X1 Engerland Skelpers,who might have been shaped like a ball but knew how to play with one as well!
Aff oot as that Heidi-banger says but I’m off to the golf for the first time in 6weeks though I had a wee social run out on Monday in the clubhouse?.
That bloody thing that changes words without even being asked has made my post look like one of Big Jimmy’s??!
That was meant to be HEID not HEIDI!!
FRED C. DOBBS on 26TH JUNE 2018 11:47 PM
If the BBC were so offended by Maradonna’s gesture (they seemed outraged) why did they keep showing it?
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I agree 100% mate.
This is the very same BBC who for numerous years inflicted us with Gazza, and how ANYTHING he does is just a wee joke, and how he is a lovely Guy, who has just never grown up Blah, Blah Blah”
This Chump “Gazza” is a convicted wife beater…FACT.
I am sick and tired about hearing/reading about his off the field antics,/pranks, which to some are Funny /
Just ask Erik Bo Anderson, about Gazza Pishing on him during Training…I wonder if Erik found that “Funny” ?
Likewise about putting His Filth in other players shoes etc for a ” Laugh” ?….
He also reportedly, left his “Filth” in a bath after a game v Celtic at Celtic Park…I wonder if the wee Celtic cleaning wummin or wee cleaning man….found that “Funny” , as they were left to clean up this Chumps mess ?
As good a player as he was, I could NEVER view him as a “Football Great”, and usually I will feel sympathy for most if they have troubles in their personal lives…but NOT that Chump.
There are others of course, that I have lost “Respect” for, for different reasons, not just Gazza.
HH
COSY CORNER BHOY on 27TH JUNE 2018 8:02 AM
That bloody thing that changes words without even being asked has made my post look like one of Big Jimmy’s??!
That was meant to be HEID not HEIDI!!
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Hey you !….I’l have you know that I am an excellent “Spellerer” !….so there ! LOL
Cheers mate.
A wee Bhoy in the Classroom, and the Teacher is trying to teach him some English Grammar…..
Teacher…” Johnny Smith…where is your Grammar” ?
Wee Johnny….” At the Bingo Miss” !
LOL
HH
A went to my dad one day after school, and asked…
ME…..” Dad…where are The Himalayas” ?
Dad….” I don’t know son….better ask your Maw as she puts everything away in this hoose” !
HH
Since we have now lost The Stuart Armstrong song…IF we sign this Guy “Moses”, maybe we could sing this old Elton John song called ” Holy Moses” ?
It’s also known as the “Border Song”, for anyone that can do the music link ?
It is a song about Peace and Love etc…I especially like the “Love” Bit.
HH
Where was Moses when the lights went oot ?
In the Dark !
HH
And another thing….That English media and his Pal… Lineker and Co since the World Cup in 1990, have did their utmost for the whole Planet to have sympathy for ” Poor Gazza” etc after he was RIGHTLY booked v Germany for that stupid two footed lunge, which meant that he would miss the World Cup Final thru suspension etc ?
What they the English media conviently forget to mention is that Gasquione, was Yellow Carded in the previous round v Belgium (?) for the EXACT same kind of illegal two footed lunge “Tackle” on a Belgium player ?
Now it’s not a criminal offence to be stupid ( as far as I am aware), but BOTH times Gasquoine went out to FOUL and maybe damage an opponent, likewise in the English cup final when he tried to damage an opponent with a reckless high “challenge” and only succeeded in injuring himself …I think it was v Arsenal ( I can’t remember ?)
Once a Chump….always a Chump !
HH
A song for Moses?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8WVu6MJsS0
HH!!
CCB
Don’t know if you saw my post of a couple of days ago about me seeing Ferenc Puskas play at, of all places, Rugby Park for Real Madrid v Killie in the 1965/66 World Cup?
It’s a bit of a hazy memory and he was maybe past his best at that time, he was 38 I think, but what a player.
I was 11 at the time and my dad took me to the game – basically to see Puskas as he was his favourite non-Celtic player alongside Alf di Stefano.
Scored something like 700 goals in about 720 games.
Hope yer well!
HH!!
1965/66 World Cup?!
FFS!!!
1965/66 European (Big) Cup!
HH!!
bloodyeejitCSC
A very happy hoopy birthday to ANGELGABRIEL of this parish, the bestest telecom engineer in the whole wide world!
…and a smashin’ ghuy as well!
Awrabest F!
:-))
50 shades of green on 27th June 2018 7:16 am
Morning Tims…
I see we are having a look at Moses , thats good because if anyone can bring us 10 its got to be him ?….
H.H
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Quality. That penalty conversion was fantastic. He done everything right and he would have went left if he had to. Simple and possibly the best penalty (plenty to choose from) so far.
It’s thanks in no small measure to Angel Gabriel that Celtic supporters across Ayrshire can post on CQN.