Speaking to the media over the weekend, SFA president, Alan McRae, suggested it would be boring if Celtic won another treble and that Rangers (sic.) making a proper run at the title was necessary. McRae was, perhaps, the worse for wear, when Aberdeen pushed Celtic all the way in the Scottish Cup final, while finishing second in the league and League Cup runners up.
This mind-set is so informative. Aberdeen are dismissed while Newco are the great red white and blue hope. Perhaps after another season of Ibrox ineptitude the penny will drop at the top of the SFA that what people previously regarded as the ‘Rangers challenge’ is over and it’s not coming back.
Despite Newco signing their captain on a free transfer, Aberdeen have a more sustainable financial model than Newco last season’s third placed side. They have conventional banking facilities, with a credit score high enough to support an overdraft. They will lose and make money in the seasons ahead, but will never be in financial crisis.
The brutal truth is that Newco are little more than cannon fodder. They bring millions to the game, putting money into the coffers of each opponent, but their own income is insufficient to resource the challenge Alan McRae craves. This will not change until, or unless, Celtic are allowed to leave Scottish football.
No one will be able to put a glove on Celtic anytime soon. Even England struggled to do so on Saturday.
The first Celtic Quick News podcast, A Celtic State of Mind, launched yesterday. Legendary Celtic author, Paul John Dykes and Kevin Graham of the Affiliation introduce the series, with guest, Paul Gallagher.
This is the first in what will be a weekly series of podcasts. I’m delighted with the people we have involved in the project. Catch it here, you will enjoy.
Listen to 'The CQN Podcast: A Celtic State of Mind' with special guest, Paul Gallagher https://t.co/GcqBRsupLY pic.twitter.com/NYtC4ETCCE
— Paul John Dykes ⭐️ (@PaulDykes) June 11, 2017
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BIGWAVY
Well,they still fight battles from a third of a millennium ago,so I suppose they’re in it for the long term.
That means their next title should be roughly 2340 or so.
Give them a soundbite-going for 2345.
I reckon they’ll be on more reincarnations than The Dalai Lama by then.
BHOYJOEBELFAST @ 1:01…
See my reply on Saturday to your question – I think you went off to bed after posing it :)
GORDON on 10TH JUNE 2017 11:02 PM
BHOYJOEBELFAST on 10TH JUNE 2017 9:04 PM
Celtic quizzie!!!!
Time for bed..A wee poser first.What was Jock Stein’s heaviest defeat as Celtic boss?
I saw us lose 6-2 at Brockville v Falkirk not long after Jock took over in 1965. I think that must be the heaviest defeat.
Who would win in a fight between the DUP and the Orange Order?
CHILL ULTRA on12TH JUNE 2017 11:48 AM
AULDHEID on 12TH JUNE 2017 10:56 AM
MEMBER OF THE BOARD.
. Crawford Boyd
An avid season ticket holder at Ibrox Crawford is at least a third a generation Rangers supporter, his family hails from Govan and he has early memories of walking to the match with his grandfather and father and brother to cheer on the Teddy Bears. In professional life, Crawford is a Lloyd’s of London corporate insurance underwriter and a member of the prestigious Faculty of Underwriters, he is a law graduate and operates his own Managing General Agency in Edinburgh’s West End.
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Are you serious?? You want your coalition of supporters represented by mindsets like this.
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Nice try to try and undermine a national association of supporters looking for accountable governance by suggestion a coalition that doesn’t exist.
What does exist is a feeling across the Scottish football spectrum that much reflects what is in the CSA letter.
However my point which you attempted to subvert, suggestion you are in the no accountability camp, was that in making that statement Res12 is now reaching more of the Celtic support base and so is more likely to put pressure on the SFA for answers. Limited awareness was one of the hurdles Res12 faced that and folk missing it’s about accountability.
By their fruits shall ye know them bud.
Chil Ultra
With regard to whom will make up the SFSA it is a wide church. Something Celtic supporters welcome.
TB said “SFA want a strong Celtic, just not too strong!”
Tam Collins very cold shortcrust gives you bad heartburn.
Theres 3 blog names rolled into one.
Sevco sign Benfica star ( who has never played a senior game for Benfica )
How does that actually work?
Daily Record csc
BMCUW,
Cheers. Just going to put the waders on and let the dog take me to the pub. The boozer even sells dog biscuits It’s a ruff life indeed.
HH.
Gordon@1.34:
Sorry sir,no access to internet until this morning.
Can you remember the NI international who scored twice in the game? Well I am 67!!!!!!
BSR,
Even though Pedro’s All Stars are not exactly known outside of their own houses, there is one thing that Latin country players have.
It is the ability to control a ball.
Even kids playing in the street are skilled in it. That in itself is an improvement on the Warbles.
Whether they have much more remains to be seen.
Falkirk 6 Celtic 2 .
A Wednesday night . . Were quickly 3-0 down .. .
Lost to the Maryhill Magyars ( at home ) the following Saturday .
Won the Cup the following weekend .
Scorchio -way down south . Off oot to a beach for a dip.
Jock joined on the 9th march 1965.
Next day celtic won 6-0 at broomfield to the original aidrie.
but some shockers followed –
Celtic 0 1 St Johnstone.
Celtic 2 4 Hibernian.
Falkirk 6 2 Celtic
Dunfermline 5 Celtic 1 (the week after the cup final 3-2 win).
Interstingly, and often forgotten, celtic also retained the glasgow cup that year. So Jock won 2 trophies in in 2 months.
The day Falkirk hit Stein’s Celtic side for six
The Scotsman
13 Dec 2013
CELTIC’S last six-goal mauling took place just a month after Jock Stein was appointed manager, when they lost 6-2 to Falkirk on 14 April 1965.
Stein – who, of course, would lead Celtic to European Cup glory two years later – had officially taken over at Parkhead the previous month and saw his side crash to a Falkirk outfit who would finish third bottom of Division One. Celtic finished in eighth place that season, 13 points behind winners Kilmarnock when it was just two points for a win.
The defeat at Brockville was Stein’s biggest-ever loss and a Falkirk side including the likes of John Lambie and Doug Baillie simply ripped their more illustrious visitors apart.
They got off to the perfect start when Doug Moran, who began his career at Hibs and had two spells at Falkirk, opened the scoring on just three minutes.
The lead was 2-0 on seven minutes and the Falkirk supporters in the surprisingly low 3,356 crowd were in dreamland when Sammy Wilson, the Northern Ireland centre forward, made it 3-0 with only 20 minutes in the clock.
On 22 minutes, Bertie Auld pulled a goal back for a Celtic side who had five players in their ranks who would eventually become Lisbon Lions. But it wasn’t the start of a comeback.
Just four minutes after Auld’s effort, Johnny Graham restored Falkirk’s three-goal cushion, and Billy Fulton made it 5-1 midway through the second half.
Moran, who had got the ball rolling, scored his second goal of the night on 81 minutes but Auld also grabbed a brace with a consolation penalty four minutes from time to complete the 6-1 scoreline.
A pint of beer cost 8p 48 years ago, the average price of a house was £3,600, The Beatles were No 1 in the hit parade with Ticket to Ride, Harold Wilson was Prime Minister and the big story that year was the Moors Murders. However, Stein and Celtic would soon bounce back. Just ten days after that thumping, they would defeat Dunfermline 2-1 in the Scottish Cup final to win their first trophy in eight years.
It was Stein’s first trophy with Celtic and was regarded as the launchpad for his golden era with the club.
Falkirk: Whigham, Lambie, Hunter, Houston, Baillie, Fulton, Graham, Gourlay, Wilson, Moran, Halliday.
Celtic: Fallon; Young, Gemmell, Murdoch, Cushley, O’Neill, Johnstone, Gallagher, Hughes, Lennox, Auld.
Attendance: 3,356.
from celticwiki
Sam Cooke’s great -A Change Is Gonna Come ( with Shake on the other side ) was released in 1965 . He was right !!!
SAINT STIVS on 12TH JUNE 2017 2:04 PM
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The Scotsman’s reporter must have left early.
I would swear that the final score was 3-2.
Delighted we are getting back to football issues. What a great letter from Joe O’Rourke to the head of the Sfa. I will not hold my breathe until ” the see nothing, hear nothing” head of the SFA replies. Nevertheless, Joe, you have placed him in a difficult position. Will he once again ignore the right of a Club’s Supporters Association to remind him of his responsibilities?
Lastly, Joe…non est alius praeter nos.
I’m petrified of having to face all these undiscovered gems that the blessed Pedro is signing. In the same way as I’m petrified of facing teams full of ex Celtic ‘stars’ who actually did get game time for us – mcginn, McGowan, fox Tony watt, efe ambrose, to name a few
I think Sevco might be slightly better this year if any of these players are any less pish poor than the current crop and Pedro can actually deliver tactics they can understand.
But on reflection that’s a big ‘if’
A Trainspotter writes –
A Change Is Gonna Come was released in the USA -late 64 . The UK issue was 65. . I bought mine from a choon store at Govan X
The new away top looks the Bizzzzz
https://tinyurl.com/yaco29qc pic.twitter.com/REiwGTFcKQ
TTT
I think Caixinha’s bulk ’signings’ and their playing records, so far are very, very poor, with the exception of Alves going into a defence that admittedly wouldn’t have been difficult to improve.
Ball control will be the least of the Latins worries, they won’t have temperature control
and none of them will have played in cold like it.
Whether they are any good or not, doesn’t really come into until they’ve overcome the general shock of Sevconia, thousands of miles from home, in sub zero temperatures with the Billy Boys Vanguard Bears Sons of Struth not to mention the criminals that run the show, all to please.
They are as near the real transfer market as they are the real stock market and until then it’ll always be like this, every year new Galacticos.
Its the hope that kills them CSC
BOURNESOUPRECIPE
Naw,it’s the RRM that kill them every time. And fleece them blind anaw.
Shame,really I should feel for them,but the fool me once argument wins over sentiment.
Excitedly clicks on podcast link
sees 127 minute running time
parks for later
knows later will never come
http://www.cision.com/us/2015/04/7-podcasting-best-practices/
127 minutes is a very specific market. Maybe this hits it perfect and is targeted and absolutely fair play, I hope it’s a roaring success. I’m just in the two weans, busy job, geez a 20 minute highlight edition bracket :)
If it’s not being cheeky it is worth reading the link and others on the market and length considerations. There Celtic podcast space is a busy one now. To capture 2 consumer hours is at the very least ambitious. Hopefully this is read as constructive comment.
As has been posted earlier…
Via James Forrest,one of those “I wish I’d said that” posts from Joe O’Rourke of the CSA.
https://thecelticblog.com/2017/06/blogs/the-celtic-supporters-association-slams-regan-in-an-astonishing-open-letter/
Bournesouprecipe
The biggest concern will be them all paying attention at their Induction, and remembering that blessing oneself when entering the field of play is just not acceptable
BLANTYREKEV
I agree with that. It may be rude to invite people on,be absolutely delighted when they accept-and then edit them!
But maybe an abridged version,and we can dip in and out of the full one later.
One fly in the ointment would be if they invited Bertie Auld and Bobby Lennox on.
Try editing that!!!
Just watched a brief story on SSN regarding Leyton Orient – the reporter said
“The good news for Leyton Orient is that they are still in existence, they are not wound up, they are not liquidated”
Rangers(IL) were wound up they were liquidated – but hey they still exist – how does that work Sky?
2. AULDHEID on 12TH JUNE 2017 1:40 PM
Chil Ultra
With regard to whom will make up the SFSA it is a wide church. Something Celtic supporters welcome.
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‘The SFSA is a natural consequence of what Res12 tried to uncover.’ So. You’re not joking!!!
You can be sure, Auldheid, that when any influential decisions have to be made by the interests of Celtic supporters will be way down in the priorities of this so-called independent lot. Even the broadest church has walls, and we’ll be kept very much on the outside.
Auldheid. Do you get a sense that the requisitioners (or some of them) of Res 12 (aka ‘Fab 4) were duped by the PLC prior to AGM November 2013 when the Resolution foundered before it was debated ?
I wonder how many time Pedro will communicate to sections of his team in Portuguese during team talks.
If he does then it could be interesting when the tactics don’t go to plan.
I wonder who the English-speak players might blame.
Hail Hail
The podcast is 127 mins??? Magic. That’ll see me through most of the drive from Suffolk to Hampshire tomorrow morning!
BSR,
Do I detect a whiff of cynicism from you re Pedro’s ability to fulfil Mc.Rea’s Dream?
Tully57,
Pedro’s Pope’s Eleven will be too busy remembering what not to do that they will forget what they have to do!
One poster asked the question whether we would be playing a friendly in Prague given the John Madden connection – well seems it will happen
http://www.celticfc.net/news/12776
Well done to Joe O’Rourke and the CSA, a quite brilliant letter.
Kieran Tierney says he phones Patrick Roberts every other day to tell him to get back to Celtic Park.
KT: “I am on the phone to him all the time – I am telling him every other day that he would be better back here for another crack at it.”
BHOYJOEBELFAST and others re that Falkirk 6-2 defeat…
That attendance of 3356 (according to Celtic wiki) seems a bit on the low side. Brockville was always pretty full when we visited. Not a venue where we were ever made to feel “welcome”.
The corresponding game at Celtic Park earlier in the season saw Hugh Maxwell score after 10 seconds – probably the quickest goal we have ever scored.
Mention too of that season brings back memories of the Glasgow Cup match v Rangers (1872/3 – 2012) at Celtic Park on the Friday following our Scottish Cup win v Dunfermline whom, as mentioned by Saint Stivs, we also played in a league game at East End Park a few days after the final.
A bit of one-upmanship by Jock before the Glasgow Cup game saw the team pose with the Scottish Cup just before kick-off.
Happy days.
Thanks Thomthethim
You’re bang on.
I believe The Holy Goalie will offer them a free consultancy service to keep them right on this score if they so wish.
If Govan Wanderers struggled to afford last years team….how can they manage this new lot
Provy Cheque???
ThomtheTim @ 1:57
I agree re: ball control, and, have commented on this before as well. Most other countries seem much more comfortable with the ball than even many of the best British players … as a result, their game is more fluid and they can break at quicker pace. Even yesterday, in the Ireland game (not british I know, but most play in Britian), I thought many of the Irish players’s first touch was poor in comparison to their opposition (although Ireland outworked them in the second half).
And, generally, I will hold off .on slagging of the new zombies until I have seen them enough to know they are rubbish. Caixinho (sorry, cant spell his name) hasn’t impressed me much so far, but he was clearly trying to play a system for which is old players were not suited. With the right type of players, he may not be such a dud ….we will have to see.
And, Celtic stopped the zombies doing 10 in a row, when they had more money than us. And many of us now say that we could compete in the EPL, even with a much smaller payroll. So, cheaper players doesn’t always mean inferior players …
so, I am not going to write the zombies off for this season, at least until I see that they are rubbish.