Some reasons why Celtic will drop a lot of points

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I was surprised Ronny Deila thought immediately after the game that Dedryck Boyata’s red card was valid, from the angle behind the goal it looked a well-time tackle, but let’s deal with the manager’s complaint against the player, who put a challenge in when wrong side of the attacker.

We’ve see three Celtic central defenders in this position in recent weeks: Efe against Ross County, Erik against Inverness and Dedryck last night. Erik was outpaced by Jordan Roberts but instead of risking a challenge from behind his opponent, he stayed on his feet and forced Roberts to shoot under pressure. Efe clumsily barged into his opponent and Dedryck went to ground.

All three got their starting positions wrong, which could have cost a goal, but Ambrose and Boyata compounded the problem by attempting a recovery, also from a wrong position. Sviatchenko chose to put pressure on the player and leave matters up to his goalkeeper. Erik made the right decision, Efe and Dedryck made wrong decisions.

And before Erik relaxes in the glow of praise, it was his unnecessary barge into an opponent which conceded the foul which led to the corner kick Accies equalised through. Don’t give away stupid fouls and you don’t allow opponents to fire the ball into your box.

And yes, the goal we lost came from a corner kick (I’m assuming those who were animated earlier in the season about zonal marking somehow overlook the same lack of ball-winning skills from the same players now we’re marking man-for-man). I’ve never known a team to lose so many goals from corners. We have a collection of players who cannot follow the flight of a football when launched into their box from a corner.

I know there’s a belief that you cannot practice penalty kicks, as the pressure of hitting them during a match changes everything. This is nonsense. Our poor penalty conversion rate over the last five or six years has cost us trophies. Ironically, John Collins has the best penalty conversion rate of any player in Celtic history (who’s taken more than 5).  You would think he’d be able to sort this.

Poor technique is a consequence of poor preparation.

When Leigh Griffiths opened the scoring from the penalty spot it came as a great relief, as until then we were unable to create a genuine chance. A big part of the job at Celtic is breaking down packed defences away from home. There are largely two ways to achieve this:

1. Master the act of quick and precise passing

2. Have target men and wide players who are excellent at crossing the ball.

If we don’t have either play in our locker we’re going to drop a lot of points.

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  1. P67

     

     

    I have said for years…..lefty players are too obvious

     

    Reason ?……..most players have left leg longer than right leg……hence they are too obvious……

     

    And on the other side……leftys are better at bending free kicks…..think about it.

  2. When I see what Ranieri does for Leicster , and what Gus Hiddink does for Chelsea, then I would advocate the appointment of one of Europe’s old school European managers.

     

     

    And I appreciate the two guys named above are out with our reach.

     

     

    But there are old school experienced European managers that operate a rung below Europes creme de la creme.

  3. As Paul mentioned, our penalty conversion ratio is dreadful. I would think it’s not much more than 60% – probably less when you count crucial ones.

     

     

    This has been going on for years – Henrik, Thommo, JVOH, Sammy, Skippy and more all missed vital kicks either in Europe or against the Dead Club.

     

     

    By comparison, i can’t remember the latter screwing up unless they were 4-0 up or whatever.

     

     

    I don’t think it’s a technique issue – more a mental one. One of the best penalty takers, Matt Le Tissier, said that he regarded penalties as a free shot on goal from 10 yards out so it was a gift.

     

     

    However, if you don’t hit it with power, you’re taking a big chance.

  4. Kevjungle

     

     

    You have touted every ex Celt and no hoper in football to replace our current and previous managers. Each and everyone of your poster boys “de jour” have either had their asses handed to them or failed miserably wherever they have gone.

     

     

    When Ronny Deila was building a rapport with the support through the “Ronny Roar” the media started a campaign to disparage it and the manager. You know the guys you claim to be real Celtic men that work in the media ask them about it, they led the campaign after all.

     

     

    When the huns fubarred promotion last season the anti Celtic media campaign went into overdrive. Our manager who had led an unfashionable team to the championship in Norway and a double in his debut season was disparaged at every opportunity meanwhile an English nobody whose only achievement was to not get promoted is portrayed as some sort of footballing guru. The man pinned up a training schedule ffs. See the clumpany for full details

     

     

    Don’t give me that media crap about empty seats, too many of our supporters have become blasé about winning easily because we have no “rangers” to push us. I support Celtic end of.

     

     

    Rant over.

     

     

    Carlsberg will now be administered repeatedly until blood pressure subsides.

  5. What is the Stars on

    It would appear from reading back that even the ostriches finally see the writing on the wall. .

     

    Ah well not much longer now

     

    Thank god

  6. GreeninbingleyinOslo on

    WINNING CAPTAINS on 27TH FEBRUARY 2016 6:32 PM

     

    Could we bring in an experienced manager and keep Ronny as his assistant?

     

     

    +++++++++++++

     

     

    I’m assuming this is clickbait.

     

     

    There is no way anyone with even a shred of personal pride or integrity would agree to that, in any walk of life, never mind as manager of Celtic FC.

     

     

    On a general note and not aimed at Winning Captains, I am finding this Ronny Deila feeding frenzy thoroughly distasteful.

     

     

    I am as pissed off as anyone this season – turgid displays, strange tactics, even stranger substitutions, and Molde away was the worst experience following the Bhoys I have had in many, many years.

     

     

    But to see Ronny Deila called a ‘clown’, ‘muppet’, ‘puppet’, ‘idiot’ and worse by OUR OWN support makes me despair.

     

     

    He is manager of my beloved Celtic. Until he is not, I’ll be behind him.

     

     

    No doubt this makes me an idiot, a sheep, a mug, a Board lackey, a warm brick in Peter Lawell’s driveway, a brainless spineless yes-man, a soup-taker, a reactionary Enemy of the People.

     

     

    But I’m just a Celtic supporter, and I have been since my first game in 1966. I just love watching my team, through thick and thin. Through and through.

     

     

    And there has been a whole lot of times that have been thinner than this.

     

     

    The team was booed off at half time a couple of weeks ago at CP. I’ve never seen that before, in 45 years.

     

     

    We seem to have a sense of entitlement these days that I always thought was the arrogant remit of the Huns.

     

     

    Anyway, I just find it sad that a once-fine blog like CQN is now a sump of bile and name-calling, and doing Level 5 and the Daily Record’s work for it. For free.

  7. Here is my take on the issue Celtic supporters and Celtic will face next season.

     

     

    So a guy cheats you at cards. You find out then you let same guy back into same card school under the same conditions that let him cheat you?

     

     

    I’d insist on at least one security camera on him all the time before he got into my card school.

     

     

    That is what is needed but some of the folk involved in the cheating are still in positions to cheat. Get rid of them AND put in a camera and then let the hatred, which is a sad reflection of Scottish society, begin.

     

     

    Me? Malaga was most enjoyable.

  8. Messi has missed 2 penalties this season…. However most probably in an instance when it didn’t really matter.

     

     

    When it has really mattered, Griffiths has consistently failed.

  9. Auldheid

     

     

    Is it not time to put our cards on the table and call them out ?

     

     

    This club needs to grow a set on and off the pitch.

  10. If you think this place is bad, you should try watching The a Voice….ye Gods it’s a disaster.

     

    By the looks of it Brother McLean will not be getting a drink from Brother McInnes and the rest of the goat worriers at the next Refs and their freinds meeting. Dodgy call against Aberdeen today from where I was watching?

     

    The more I look at this you sense a sort of bizarre made for TV movie going on. You would think we have done our level best to be so bad that a really poor Orcs team will look to be competitive season. This allows the MSM to thump the tubs, get Sky to crank up the hype machine and the gullible hordes will send them money. We will then be asked to stump up increased ST money as will the cloven hooves , although they will be so drunk on Petrofac and Championship glory that they will queue round the block to line Kings pockets.

     

    At this point PL will bin the trainee manager and say, sorry guys it didn’t work out this time we will get a proper manager.

     

    Any of the above possible?

  11. Owen.

     

    Good to see you posting.

     

    Being a fan who first attended a game in 1970 I see where you are coming from having watched worse Celtic teams than this one.

     

    In my opinion Ronnys intransigence will be his downfall. Any manager worth his salt and with a half decent team will know how to set it up to have a chance of beating his teams. Wide players usually cutting in, never/or hardly ever going to the bye line, so that space is left for attacking full backs to cross the ball. Leaving two central defenders at the back. It leaves us wide open to a quick counter attack. We were ok last year as VVD has great acceleration over 5 metres and could cover, we don’t have that luxury this year, the centre backs are no where near the class of VVD or Jason.We don’t have a holding midfielder worth its name. Johannsen has to be one of the most undisciplined players ever to wear the hoops, last night,as a holding midfielder, he ran to close down the Accies keeper, seriously he must be a nightmare to play with. The fans aren’t fools, we may be ahead in he league,but Ronnys team and tactics have not improved. The financial dynamics have changed we budget for making Champions league 2 out of 5, I believe, I just can’t see Ronnys team qualifying. He is also guilty of square pegs/ round holes syndrome, Geezo I could go on and on. Slating players in public, a big no no, in my opinion. Especially when the player was unjustly red carded. When I am at the game he and the team will always have my support but last night tipped the balance for me. Apart from Kieran Tierney who else could look themselves in the mirror and say I left nothing on the pitch. Something doesn’t seem right to me but I have to be honest and say that’s just a gut feeling, I have no evidence.

     

    However we are hopefully on our way to 5 in row, which coincidentally we last done in 1970, just before I attended my first game. This time I will be grateful, as I was too young to understand the last time.

     

    Hail Hail. Lurk less, post more.

  12. Griff is an instinctual scorer. No thought about it, bang, and frequently a goal. The penalties are different. Being made to wait doesn’t sit well with him, he gets anxious and loses clarity, taking a swing and hoping for the best. The one he scored with last night was as poor as the other, he got lucky as the goalie went the other way. Until now could you really make a case for him not to take the penalties. From now we need someone who has a cool head in a pressure situation.

  13. Aiden Bhoy

     

     

    Not until the justice system grinds to a stop.

     

     

    There is breaking the law and breaking the football law.

     

     

    The latter has to wait for the former for fear of prejudicing it.

     

     

    To those who e mailed me I will be in touch taking the above into account.

     

     

    Patience I’m afraid.

  14. GREENINBINGLEYINOSLO,

     

     

    Couldn’t have put it better myself.

     

     

    Thank Ghod for the likes of Auldheid. There are so many others who claim their own conjecture as fact. Sad. As, I think, Owen said earlier, even lurking is difficult these days.

  15. Some of the posts on here since yesterday are positively Hunnish in the language used against our current manager. I guess a few are scunnered that we are six points ahead and on the way to five in a row, and I thought only those who were against us would have been upset about that. Dobbers of all colours, get it up ye.

  16. Stairheedrammy.

     

    I agree about L.G,his first pen had no great pace and if keeper,had guessed correctly he would have saved it. The second pen was, in my opinion bizarre, L.G slightly stalls his run up,keeper goes very early,yet L.G. doesn’t look so puts it in same corner as keeper has already dived too. I don’t see the point in stalling your run up if you don’t look to see where keeper is. As I say bizarre.

     

    Hail Hail

  17. Stairheed……

     

     

    Good point re Grif and his natural goal-scoring instincts.

     

    Penalties are a different kettle of teacakes altogether……………….

     

     

    Also, it’s probably just me, but I always think the refs keep our Bhoys that wee bit longer before being allowed to take the shot.

     

     

    I also think that in some daft way we are pre-programmed by the anti-Celtic vibe and rhetoric to miss chances like penalties.

     

     

    Our worst fears are the stuff of the players on-field anxieties.

     

     

    HH

  18. Penalty taking is an ability in itself. Even the best (Messi/Neymar) can have issues. On the other hand guys like Balotelli score for fun. My complaint with Leigh last night was the height that he hit it, it was perfect for the keeper.

  19. Jimmynotpaul

     

     

    I am nearly 50 years old, my dad was a Glasgow man but I was born in Ireland so have supported Celtic all my life. I started attending games in the late 80’s after I started working at that time we were truly crap, we struggled to be competitive for third place never mind top spot. However throughout all of that time the support backed the team. “Always look on the bright side” being more of an anthem than YNWA.

     

     

    We have now reached the point where success is not only expected but demanded. We should have had no chance against Barcelona that night but the beauty of football is that sometimes the wee team can overachieve. Funnily enough when wee teams do it to us it is a cause for weeping and wailing about how far we have fallen under this board,manager, PE teacher or tea lady (delete as applicable).

     

     

    Time to go beer waiting and it’s rude to keep your first love waiting :-))

  20. ach If if truth be told and I was a betting man I would be getting my money on Tom Boyd being big Peters next patsy surely he would tick most of the boxes

  21. WHAT IS THE STARS on 27TH FEBRUARY 2016 8:06 PM

     

    It would appear from reading back that even the ostriches finally see the writing on the wall. .

     

     

    Ah well not much longer now

     

     

    Thank god

     

     

    —–

     

    How dare you!

  22. Kieran Tierney for penalty taker ? has he any form of taking them ?

     

     

     

    Bognor Regis Town F.C….

     

     

    two games from wemberleeee.

     

     

    up the rocks

  23. mickbhoy1888 on 27th February 2016 8:41 pm

     

     

    Unlikely, even if offered wouldn’t take it. Good Celtic man that he is, knows he’s not up to it.

  24. And then just when you think nothing will ever make you happy again you hear “Aberdeen beat me for E80”

     

     

    That’ll teach the man city supporting tonk then. Hehe

  25. Tom Boyd is better than SuperSutton on

    Discussion on managers suitable for Celtic.

     

     

    I’d suggest there are very few who come with the experience of playing against ten man defences in the majority of games. Let alone with innovative ideas on how to break them down with players in our budget category.

     

     

    In fact, the person most experienced in these matters is Ronny Deila.

     

     

    And I would hazard a guess there are even fewer managers who have the answer to playing in a game refereed by “Scottish” referees.

  26. TBJ says Wee Oscar Knox is in heaven with the angels on

    I’m happy that big Charlie will partner erik on Wednesday

     

     

     

    If we get a penalty I would let him put his laces through the ball

  27. Gerryfaethebrig on

    KevJ my Celtic nemesis

     

     

    7.22 “cheap even for you”…… A bit nippy

     

     

    My jungle friend with many monikers, you touted John Daly, Michael Higdon, Mourinho McGhee, Jim ar la and many more……. Kev at least you are now going by one moniker but still the same old “hope Celtic win BUT……. Probably happier if they do they don’t”

     

     

    KevJ Shug Keevins CSC…… That’s a play on the words….l if you want cheap am yir man

  28. glendalystonsils on

    JIMMYNOTPAUL on 27TH FEBRUARY 2016 8:27 PM

     

    Stairheedrammy.

     

     

     

     

    I agree about L.G,his first pen had no great pace and if keeper,had guessed correctly he would have saved it. The second pen was, in my opinion bizarre, L.G slightly stalls his run up,keeper goes very early,yet L.G. doesn’t look so puts it in same corner as keeper has already dived too. I don’t see the point in stalling your run up if you don’t look to see where keeper is. As I say bizarre.

     

     

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    It’s all about football intelligence which Leigh lacked at the penalty, but he’s not the only one of our players who lacks it.

     

    Gary Mackay Steven was through one on one with the keeper and hit a panicky shot straight at him. Contrast that with Messi against Arsenal the other night. Same situation almost exactly , Messi dummies to shoot, waits until the keeper goes down then chips it over him. Cool,confident football intelligence.

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