The biggest story in the Deloitte money league table, out this morning, is that of Milan and Inter, 14th and 19th place respectively. Inter are stuck between Everton (pining for a new stadium to remove the biggest inhibitor on revenue) and West Ham (soon moving to a new stadium).
Juventus are 10th and Roma 16th but that’s it for Italian clubs, who were able to attract the top talent from Law to Ronaldo and all generations in between. The fabled ‘lure of the lira’ wasn’t replaced by the lure of Italian stocked euros. Football in Italy is still a huge business, but the TV market is not as generous as the deal in the confederated league in England and Wales.
It’s not so long since Celtic regularly featured in Deloitte’s report but our TV revenues have stagnated while those elsewhere have grown considerably. We’ve recognised our place in the food chain, but next to slip off the list when the new English TV deal kicks in will be the big Milanese clubs. Good.
Celtic were first to suffer the consequences of the TV and football markets cartels. There’s little we can do about it alone, we need big clubs in big countries to also be unhappy at being pushed out of the tent.
We’ll soon read that Crystal Palace earn more money than Inter Milan. Experience suggests that football clubs, once disenfranchised in this manner, become advocates for change. Even those near the top, like Karl-Heinz Rummenigge’s Bayern Munich, are talking about a European league, as their domestic TV deal is holding them back.
Magners Ticket Competition
Fancy two Premium Seats in the Jock Stein Stand for Saturday’s game against St Johnstone, courtesy of Magners? You can win by answering this question, which will hopefully bring back some memories:
We said “Cheerio to 10-in-a-row” on 9 Mary 1998, but just before halftime that day, a St Johnstone player went within inches of equalising with a header. Who was that player?
Send his surname in the subject line of an email to celticquicknews@gmail.com to enter.
And while you are at it, why don’t you put a £1 into our Mary’s Meals school kitchen appeal here…
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tet not half as you and negative.
Well,goodnight to all Tims,except for Neganon.I hope he has nightmares of RD lifting the treble.
And PL on the field with him.AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHH.
Hahahaha, get the blog back, we arra people, no surrender, the blog didn’t go anywhere, your still on it,
And as for pulling the charity card? Wow!
Some people definetly don’t understand the meaning of irony….
Tony. Cmon me old mucker.cmon cmere. Cmon. I didn’t grass you in. Cmon. You haven’t got me on filter block have you cmon.
Say something . cmon.
Right nighty nite.
Give them back the blog, Hahahahahahaha silly Bhoys.
Och Tony.
Thats rubbish. Not even a hello.
Boo.
I’ve probably posted this before but perhaps it will provide food for thought. For it to work, to reach home egos have to be left off blog……
THE DIALOGUE DECALOGUE
Ground Rules for Dialogue
While the “Dialogue Decalogue” revised by Leonard Swidler on which this is based was originally written primarily to further inter-religious dialogue, it has been adapted here to help people to overcome difficulties arising from the diverse perspectives and value systems they bring with them into any exchanges of views. Its aim is to help build bridges and find common ground on which a healthy outcome might be achieved.
The Dialogue Decalogue
Dialogue is a conversation on a common subject between two or more persons with differing views, the primary purpose of which is for each participant to learn from the other so that s/he can change and grow. This very definition of dialogue embodies the first commandment of dialogue.
If we approach another party to either defeat them or to learn about them so as to deal more effectively with her or him, or at best to negotiate with him or her. If we face each other at all in confrontation–sometimes more openly polemically, sometimes more subtly so, but always with the ultimate goal of defeating the other, because we are convinced that we alone have the absolute truth we are indulging in debate and not dialogue.
But dialogue is not debate. In dialogue each party must listen to the other as openly and sympathetically as s/he can in an attempt to understand the other’s position as precisely and, as it were, as much from within, as possible. Such an attitude automatically includes the assumption that at any point we might find the other party’s position so persuasive that, if we would act with integrity, we would have to change, and change can be disturbing.
All parties must be prepared to come to the dialogue as persons ready to put aside their own needs and wants, at least for a time. They must be ready to listen, without judgement, to the thoughts and feelings as expressed by the other person in the exchange. This is difficult to do on blogs/forums in the absence of body language and clarification often needs to be sought. The parties must be prepared to accept that reaching agreement may not be achieved, although that might occur, but dialogue will lead to both parties, through a better understanding of the others’ needs and wants, to being able to live amicably with their differences.
How, then, can we effectively engage in a meaningful dialogue? The following are some basic ground rules, or “commandments,” of dialogue that must be observed if it is actually to take place. These are not theoretical rules, or commandments given from “on high,” but ones that have been learned from hard experience.
see next post
FIRST COMMANDMENT: The primary purpose of dialogue is to learn, that is, to change and grow in the perception and understanding of reality, and then to act accordingly. Minimally, the very fact that I learn that my dialogue party believes “this” rather than “that” proportionally changes my attitude toward her/him; and a change in my attitude is a significant change in me. We enter into dialogue so that we can learn, change, and grow, not so we can force change on the other, as one hopes to do in debate–a hope realized in inverse proportion to the frequency and ferocity with which debate is entered into. On the other hand, because in dialogue each party comes with the intention of learning and changing themselves, the other party in fact will also change. Thus the goal of debate, and much more, is accomplished far more effectively by dialogue.
SECOND COMMANDMENT: relationship-healing dialogue must be a two-sided project-within each relationship partner and between their immediate and wider families/groups. Since the primary goal of dialogue is that each party learn and change himself, it is also necessary that each participant enter into dialogue not only with his relationship party -but also with his family/group to share with them the fruits of the relationship dialogue. Only thus can the whole family/group eventually learn and change, moving toward an ever more perceptive insight into reality. The dialogue with family/group would follow after the results of the relationship dialogue were realised by the significant parties to the relationship.
THIRD COMMANDMENT: Each participant must come to the dialogue with complete honesty and sincerity. It should be made clear in what direction the major and minor thrusts of their needs and wants are, what future shifts might be, and, if necessary, where each participant has difficulties with specifying or articulating their needs and wants. No false fronts have any place in dialogue.
Conversely–each participant must assume a similar complete honesty and sincerity in the other parties. Not only will the absence of sincerity prevent dialogue from happening, but the absence of the assumption of the other parties’ sincerity will do so as well. In brief: no trust, no dialogue.
FOURTH COMMANDMENT: In relationship dialogue we must not compare our ideals with the practice of the other party, but rather our ideals with our other parties’ ideals, our practice with our other parties’ practice.
FIFTH COMMANDMENT: Each participant must attempt to and must be allowed to define him/herself in terms of feelings. Only a man/woman feeling downtrodden, for example, can define what it means to feel downtrodden. The other can only describe what it looks like from the outside. Moreover, because dialogue is a dynamic medium, as each participant learns, he will change and hence continually deepen, expand, and modify his self-definition as a down trodden, being mindful to share the changing feelings with wider family. Thus it is mandatory that each dialogue partner define how they feel.
Conversely the other party must attempt and become able to recognise him/herself in the interpretation. For the sake of understanding, each dialogue participant will naturally attempt to express for him/herself what she thinks is the meaning of the other parties’ statement; the party must be able to recognise him/herself in that expression. (Put themselves in the other persons shoes)
SIXTH COMMANDMENT: Each participant must come to the dialogue with no hard-and-fast assumptions as to where the points of disagreement are. Rather, each partner should not only listen to the other partner with openness and sympathy but also attempt to agree with the dialogue party as far as is possible while still maintaining integrity with his own values. Where he/she absolutely can agree no further without violating his/her own integrity, precisely there is the real point of disagreement–which most often turns out to be different from the point of disagreement that was falsely assumed ahead of time.
SEVENTH COMMANDMENT: Dialogue can take place only between equals. Both must come to learn from each other. Therefore, if, for example, one party views the other as inferior, or if one party views the other as superior, there will be no dialogue. If authentic relationship dialogue is to occur between the parties, then both must come mainly to learn from each other; only then will it be “equal with equal,”. This rule also indicates that there can be no such thing as a one-way dialogue.
EIGHTH COMMANDMENT: Dialogue can take place only on the basis of mutual trust, which must be built. A dialogue among persons can be built only on personal trust. Hence it is wise not to tackle the most difficult problems in the beginning, but rather to approach first those issues most likely to provide some common ground, thereby establishing the basis of trust. Then, gradually, as this personal trust deepens and expands, the more thorny matters can be undertaken. Thus, as in learning we move from the known to the unknown. So in dialogue we proceed from commonly held matters, which, given our mutual ignorance resulting from possibly years of misunderstanding and possibly hostility in the relationship, may take us quite some time to discover fully–to discuss matters of disagreement.
NINTH COMMANDMENT: Persons entering into relationship dialogue must be at least minimally self-critical of both themselves and their wants and needs. A lack of such self-criticism implies that one already has all the correct answers. Such a righteous attitude makes dialogue not only unnecessary, but even impossible, since we enter into dialogue primarily so we can learn–which obviously is impossible if our belief is we have never made a misstep, if we think that we have all the right answers. To be sure, in relationship dialogue one must stand by personal values with integrity and conviction, but such integrity and conviction must include, not exclude, a healthy self-criticism. Without it there can be no dialogue–and, indeed, no integrity.
TENTH COMMANDMENT: Each participant eventually must attempt to experience the partner’s perspective of reality “from within”; for the partner’s perspective is not merely something of the head, but also of the spirit, heart, and “whole being,” individual and communal. It is a “passing over” into another’s life experience and then coming back enlightened, broadened, and deepened.
Auld heid
Brilliant…….but far too intellectual for morons…….its a shame……..if only they understood
Hi
No read for ages
Heard this tonight
Means a lot
Was ma sister rose’s song
My Rose my ma
http://youtu.be/GhqbESuc2v8
https://youtu.be/H3nWy-UHiiU
THE EXILED TIM on 22ND JANUARY 2016 12:14 AM
For every poster that leaves the blog, charity loses.
Absolutely correct,talk about somebody taking the —-,P67 just read back for the last couple of days.Great to see a more hands on thingy,we will be all back on track soon HH
Terrible night
Wee runt pup
Chiwhoawh (cannae spell but u get the drift )
Freak accident
Thought she was dead
About half seven
Rushed to the vet
Kids devastated
Heart in mouth
I prayed
Cut and bruised
No broken bones
Thank god
Relief
Hail Hail
Me
Well
Def
Gone
This
Time
Fone
Out
In
A
While
No
Mas
As
Roberto
Duran
Said
Against
Sugar ray
Although
Ken Buchanan
Shouda
Had the
Best to say
Hail Hail
Paul `67
When you have one of those moments of………….” Why the hell did I bother ”
Read this and remember the contribution you have made to enhancing the lives of so many of us :
EDDIEINKIRKMICHAEL on 21ST JANUARY 2016 11:19 PM
The reason I shared this story is that if it wasn’t for this blog I would never have been at St Roch’s tonight with all those great Celtic people, this place is special, believe me. I was in a bad place for a long time. I came across this site by pure accident, I lurked for a couple of years and then built up the courage to post. I’m so glad I did, I’ve met so many great people through this blog. I don’t agree with everyone’s points of view as Cowiebhoy and PFAyr amonst others will testify, but you know what we may not agree but we respect each other. I ran into PFAyr a couple of months ago in the Blane Valley and at first it was a bit uncomfortable as we both knew we had had a bit of a spat on here. We did end up talking although we avoided any controversial subjects that we had disagreed with on here. That’s what this place is all about, get your opinion out there, fight your corner but do it in a respectful manner and don’t take it personally when others have a different perspective on any given subject.
HAIL HAIL
macjay1,
I find Paul67s handling of this blog excellent. Free speech is imperative, especially at this time.
Freedom of expression was a track from way Bach, hard German Techno probably isnae your bag howevaah. ;)
Anyway, as 16 Roads has been saying, these CM’s are denying more and more people this, everywhere. It is a terrible road to be led down and will only lead to tyranny.
Cracking score on Tuesday, I hope you got to see it.
Quench – Dreams
The really great thing about Tower Records Glasgow back in the early 90s was you could go up there late in the Evening and pick up a compilation that had the above track on it. First venture in to Trance Music and that gem was on it.
Off oot to shoot some Russians in CSGO. The propaganda is always there, the Counter Terrorists have US/UK voices, the Terrorists have East European voices.
I just don’t trust any Government.
“That Government is best which governs least.”
Now it is Big G everywhere, in every aspect.
PETEC on 22ND JANUARY 2016 3:39 AM
Freedom of Speech. ……………….You bet.
Sadly that includes freedom of hate speech.
For every freedom , you`ll find someone to abuse it.
Freedom and licence.
Saw only the replays placed on the blog by Tims.
Couldnae quite hack your ……….arpeggio…ators
:-)
macjay1,
:)) I did warn you.
Muse
I remember asking Kojo for info about the Stock Market.
Kojo mentioned Netflix, haters came in and hated on Kojo.
I never asked him for advice again.
Needless to say the Netflix rocketed.
over Time
How does this posting work
I relate What is the Stars to Kojo.
Gifts from God baith of em.
I can’t explain it.
Legends in my view.
Big International Legends.
Just ma opinion.
Sorted. Thi morning at 3-30 my little Granddaughter Ellie was born HailHail Ellie . Shall post again later when I come down fae the clouds ( sober up that means) HH
Grand67 on 22nd January 2016 5:50 am
Sorted. Thi morning at 3-30 my little Granddaughter Ellie was born HailHail Ellie . Shall post again later when I come down fae the clouds ( sober up that means) HH
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God Bless you all, especially Ellie.
First time post I may add so go easy or I will send Estadio round okaydoky.
Hail hail wee Ellie.
Morning,
Well i have not posted for a while,but decided,with a little persuasion, to start posting again.
The blog is too precious to allow to go down the tubes, so in the words of a famous cook, and football lady, “Let’s be ‘avin you”,
Right time for work! I’ll be back later Bobby, promise mate!
KTF
Lilys
Welcome Grand67
Best wishes to Ellie and her mum and everybody else :)
First time post? Are you a hun?
;-)
CQNinitiationsRusCSC
The CM dialectics are so obvious.
Sex education in primary school now, Abortion Ramping up Big Time.
Wow haud on a wee minute are we in a New Age of Paganism? A Golden AGE of paganism where people promote 666 and other things.
Do as thou wilt? being the Whole of the Law?
Nope, Awe NAW at all.
The Song my Mum always sung when we were about the house…..
One day at a Time
As Relevant as Win, Lose or Draw
Satans powers are incredible at the End of Days.
Love is the Ki.
Dave.CsC
Good Morning Timland.
Grand67……welcome tae the mad hoose,a prayer
for a long and happy life for wee Ellie.
Away tae work,play nice ya hear!!!!
The Leaders getting minions to get 666 avatars and incorporating 666 into your name, hell, there is even a 666 betting site now….. I have no issue with that whatsoever, it is a sign howevaaaah…. That The Occultic AntiChrist is being brought into the Public view.
The Theosophists believe that God is the Bad guy.
Basically take yer pick.
Somethinginsidesostrong.CsC
Roger Federer drops the second set 6-3, despite wearing a green and white shirt.
Dimitrov failed to make any impression on the Fed’s serve in the first set but broke early in the second and held on to win the set 6-3.
Roger still looks as calm in the 3rd as Nir Bitton strolling through the Accies defence.
Alice Bailey bawbag and her Externalisation of the hierarchy shat……
Anti Christian.
BlavatSKY – Anti Christian
THE United Nations – ANTI CHRISTIAN.