Despite benefiting from the worst goal I’ve seen conceded against Celtic, a well-drilled by no more than competent Kilmarnock team came from behind to take all three points and leave Celtic at a multi-year low yesterday.
Excuses are available: the pitch, the fact that we made six changes to the starting 11, but the reality is yesterday’s performance was little different from what we have seen so often this season. I could make a case that we were worse still in the home win over Hamilton. The latter performance took place on a pristine Celtic Park with Dembele and Griffiths both starting.
Two seasons on, teams with vastly inferior resources have figured out how to play us and we have not figured out how to compensate for this reality.
I trust the manager. He has delivered and deserves our faith. He will get it right and deliver 8-in-a-row, but I fear for our treble on Wednesday night. Having failed to win any of our three away games against Premiership opposition, the pattern is too complete to ignore.
Apologies for the radio silence on CQN yesterday. The server was knocked off by the volume of visitors and the recovery process caused further issues. Been ages since this has happened, but I suppose it’s been a while since we’ve had results like this.
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BGFC….I think you are spot on and have solved our performance dip!!
Watching games I am absolutely sure that the players are still good enough but whoever is responsible for giving them the proper number of dots to take with them onto the field is not doing their job! Full stop!??
Hail Hail
Matt
We need a John Harston. Constant balls into the box without anyone attacking them. Is it any wonder we don’t score? Teams know they can shut down passes through the middle abs allow crosses and we’re unlikely to score.
Need a leaner squad of 25 and lower wage bill. Too many passengers. Should leave over next 2 windows:
De Vries, Gamboa, Hendry, Boyata, Benkovic, Compper, Sinclair, Allan, Hayes, Benyu, Kouassi.
N’tcham will be sold next summer. Christie and Lustig might also go. Would allow us to bring in 4-6 quality players that would genuinely contribute to the team and bring much needed freshness.
Will be a new manager as Rodgers scunnered with Lawwell’s parsimony and Lawwell scunnered with Rodgers’ poor scouting and transfer record.
MATT STEWART on 25TH SEPTEMBER 2018 12:43 AM
BGFC….I think you are spot on and have solved our performance dip!!
Watching games I am absolutely sure that the players are still good enough but whoever is responsible for giving them the proper number of dots to take with them onto the field is not doing their job! Full stop!??
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More dots, and some dashing about too – that will solve it.
HH
BGFC
InspectorMorseCodeCSC
A great article on Dybala of Juventus. This is not just an article about football … it reads like great poetry.
Love it.
“Life does not give anything. If anything, sometimes and not at all, it can only offer great opportunities. Those who can grasp the meaning of that precious gift transform the “seed” into a tree rich in good fruits for themselves and for others. Then there are those who, for different reasons, do not realize the potential luck. The fleeting moment is dissolved and destiny, like Paganini, does not repeat.
There is a distinct feeling that the second case belongs to the story that has so far linked Paulo Dybala to Juventus. A relationship born under the sign of a fairy tale marriage which seems to be ending, as it often happens for certain unions, for incompatibility of character and which presages a fatal and inevitable divorce.
This would be a rather painful event especially for the Juventus executives who, with excellent reasons, had elected the young Argentine talent as the man of providence and the player who guaranteed pure fun as well as prestigious substance.
The criticism had superimposed the figure of Dybala to that of the immense and never forgotten Omar Sivori. Juventus had given him the number 10 shirt which is reserved for special players. The idyll seemed perfect. Even in Frosinone, as it has been for some time, we saw that “number 10” wandering around the field with openness and abulia as if the game was an accidental fact for him, with his mind being elsewhere.
The sentence of Allegri to comment on the Argentine was emblematic and meaningful: “The best quality of Dybala is running”. So not the imagination, creativity, genius. Heavy criticism for a champion who is not a marathon runner and who is asked to create more than just run.
The problem of Dybala and his painful black and white eclipse is all and only inside the mind and perhaps even the sole of the player who arrived at a lion club like Juve, not without good reasons, but to be able to become the “Lion King” of the Juventus savannah.
Then Ronaldo arrived with all his experience and appeal as a leader. In Dybala, evidently at the unconscious level, the spring is triggered, not of jealousy (it would be crazy and presumptuous), but of awareness with respect to a fatal “diminution” to have to endure.
And Dybala’s shoulders are not so wide and solid to hold that weight. That’s why, with a bitter feeling, the Argentine champion has already left Juventus in his head. Fortunately for the Bianconeri, Bernardeschi has stepped up behind him.
Marco Bernardini
Bianconeri Is that Italian for bean counter? ?
Who would win between, Leigh, Leigh, its awe aboot me ?
Or,……
Big Moussa the oot baw, the £20 million PLC pension funder ?
More to the point, who has been deprived of watching the talents of the best striker since big Hooper, whilst the PLC board trooser another £20 million heist, to add to the previous two 2 years CL money of, £60 – £70 million ?
Where are the huns getting their secret money from ?
Who’s PLC board does it suit, for the huns to be challenging Celtic ?
Who are the”real” gullibilly’s ?
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
SETTINGFREETHEBEARS 1017
You are to be commended in the strength and lucidity of your defence of PAUL67. It’s clear that you have an almost encyclopaedic knowledge of what he didn’t write,and also of what certainly can’t be proven to be the intent behind his comments.
So,tell me,who wrote this?
“That is why we are going to win the league this season. It’s why we will win “10” and it is why we will continue to win successive titles for the rest of your life. This success is not built upon the wisdom of Jock Stein or Brendan Rodgers, it is a consequence of planning to win, and never lose again. Ever”
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All I can see reading back on last night is people ganging up on anyone brave enough to point out the obvious if unpalatable truth. That we have problems,on the field and off,all of which could have been avoided. And as for denying that Paul and PL are on very good terms,what are you guys on? Of course they are,I certainly don’t have any problems with who people are friendly with and nor should anyone else.
But denying it,or asking for irrefutable proof? That’s what this blog has become now? Can’t voice an opinion,an observation,a perception? Proof only?
That is hugely disappointing,but for anyone who has been paying attention,it’s no great surprise.
DBHOY 1205
Thanks for that,mate. A Celtic story putting a smile on my face,it will never catch on.
BMCUWP,
Good post.
Facts (and quotes) are chiels that winna ding.
Good morning all from the Govanhill grand wazoo.
DHARMABAM
Thanks,mate. I don’t have a problem with SFTB,that wasn’t why I posted what I did. He was stating that a comment was never made when it quite clearly was. It has been referenced here and elsewhere often enough.
And as I said afterwards,it’s time people got off their high horses demanding proof about every comment with which they disagree. As I recall,debating isn’t about demanding proof,it’s about expressing reasonable doubt about your opponent’s assertions. And making your own more acceptable and credible to your audience.
Last night was like a pack of hyenas,particularly with their treatment of FATHERJACK.
Suggesting that he is “on the Toilet Duck” is downright ignorant. Especially as he had only recently revealed that he is one of the 20% of people in Ireland who are teetotal.
And that was in response to another insult which had little or sod all to do with his original point.
Pattern developing.
RAILROADBLUES
Happy Smoke on the Water to you,old bean.
BMCUWP,
Thanks for replying. Sadly, there is a bit of a pack mentality – I didn’t read all of the comments last night but I did see the Toilet Duck one. It s probably why i stopped reading.
Separately, I would imagine a lot of people on here are politically more left wing than right. It’s surprising that so few people are in favour of collective action when it comes to football. Perhaps, football is a place where it just wouldn’t enter their thought process to consider that type of action.
BMCUWP
Very well said. The leader you quoted was one that sat very uncomfortably with me and many others I suspect.
At least you have laid it out in black and white for STFB as his memory must have failed him.
I’m sure we will now get a retraction from him.
Bobby 6.52. My head was foggy enough yesterday.
WEEBOBBYCOLLINS on 24TH SEPTEMBER 2018 8:27 PM
50 shades….IF you can smell crap it’s probably on your shoe or your nose is too near your arse…
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Na arguing with smarts like that is there, if you cant defend the crap you typed on here dont go in a wee huff when called out for it.
Any 2 bit tube can post what they like on here within reason, as you have proved, as I said back up your argument with facts or else stop being a wee drama Queen.
Give us your reasons how you know Peter and Brendan now have an unworkable relationship, and spare me the ” it was on here wisdom “.
BMCW
You’re welcome.
HH
Meet the new day, same as the old day…
Good morning, friends, from a dry, calm and fairly bright looking East Kilbride. Just 36 hours until we get yet another chance to put the world to right. Hibs v Aberdeen tonight should be a good warm up.
morning bhoys from a blueskyed but cold Cheshire nice to see everyone agreeing with each other.hh.
BMCUW,
Imo, what CQN has become is a platform for way too many to abuse the likes of Paul67 and any Celtic supporter who doesn’t attack the Board and, in particular, Peter Lawwell. It has been like this for at least a season. It baffles me why they don’t start their own blog, if they find CQN so aggravating.
Kev on 24th September 2018 8:18 pm
The remnants of a once proud football club, lay in a pile of ashes, on a football pitch, in Athens, a few weeks ago.
Tic, toc…..
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Brought to you by Kev Jangle of the ‘Brendan Rodgers is a season ticket smokescreen and will never take the Celtic job, get Mark McGhee in’ brigade,
HH
Parkheadcumsalford on 25th September 2018 7:56 am
I would argue that its the opposite, a site where anyone who criticises the board, the manager or the team are abused and hounded by the clique who freq
Reading through the past couple of days blogs and emotioins are raw indeed, understandably so. I reckon more so on this particlar fan-site than others , due to the constant mantra of a ‘generation of domination’ , and other such sayings.
The reality has been somewhat different, and of course others can paint the past in whatever way they wish, but we cannot ignore the current situation that is harming Celtic. This is not the fault of newco or the SFA, but of two men, both in positions of power at the club. Both have gotten it wrong this summer ( and in the past), but they now need to come together to get it right, for the good of the game in Scotland.
This cannot be allowed to fester , for as oft is said on here, ‘We know how this ends’, and in this case, not in a good way.
HH
GARY67. ffs gary stop talking sense.lol.
Gary67 on 25th September 2018 8:15 am
Parkheadcumsalford on 25th September 2018 7:56 am
I would argue that its the opposite, a site where anyone who criticises the board, the manager or the team are abused and hounded by the clique
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Agreed, they even tried to get their retailiation in first after Killie, ‘whos going to get it first’ and similiar bs. Heaven forbid Celtic fans might have a lot of valid points to make about the farce that was our summer and our start to the season,
HH
Parkheadcumsalford on 25th September 2018 7:56 am
I would argue that its the opposite, a site where anyone who criticises the board, the manager or the team are abused and hounded by the clique who frequent here the most.
I’m not talking about the boring trolls who do nothing but criticise and abuse Celtic supporters but those of us who try to see both sides of the argument and criticise when we deem fit.
P67 will always be there for a pot shot as he is perceived by many as a PL mouthpiece. I don’t agree with everything he writes, the tone of the current piece being an example, but do agree with many other opinions via the blog. What he writes should be a starting point for healthy debate, unfortunately it becomes a catalyst for personal abuse and the usual suspects posting the same garbage day in day out.
PARKHEADCUMSALFORD on 25TH SEPTEMBER 2018 7:56 AM
Run wae the dugs, get bitten by fleas
Similarly, P67’s perceived closeness to PL and the Board, evidenced by his editorial lines and titbits of information, have led him to be in the firing line.
CQN’s editorial policy is certainly not if the boat rocking variety when it comes to the plc. Which will be more widely accepted and tolerated when ‘the good ship celtica’ is sailing in the right direction and good pace.
The recent transfer window and CL qualifiers were a ‘clustermess’ and out form is rank and has been suspect for some time.
So no wonder there’s anger and difficult questions. The ‘there there….we’ll still win 8IAR’ type of leader that avoids such questions will, inevitably, increase the anger.
HH jg
Bobby Murdoch
Water of a toilet duck’s back to me, all these people can do is attack the the poster, they have no answer to what you say so they attack the message, it’s what huns do.
It’s the reason so many good posters are leaving the blog, Lawwell’s attack dogs rounding on anyone who dares to call him out, you would think he was Mr Celtic, he certainly does.
BMCUW
“So,tell me,who wrote this?
“That is why we are going to win the league this season. It’s why we will win “10” and it is why we will continue to win successive titles for the rest of your life. This success is not built upon the wisdom of Jock Stein or Brendan Rodgers, it is a consequence of planning to win, and never lose again. Ever”
I am assuming that it was Paul 67 who wrote that. Now, I am asking you and all those who jumped on the “our treble” statement:-
Did you take this literally?
Did you take it seriously?
or did you take it as a bit of triumphalism to wind up the resurgent confidence of the Hun and to counter the mounting negativity of our own.
Did any man or woman, of sound mind and body, enterrtain the notion that they were being promised the league title for ever an ever?
Is it in keeping with the oft-repeated mantra on here that leagues are generally won by the team with the most money, but there are no guarantees?
If not, why use it now against him?
Paul67 did not cause the defeat to Killie nor did his alleged triumphalism or complacency and I stand by that. He got it in the neck for this side issue, as a consequence of being seen as a privileged “ear” to the Celtic Board, unlike other Celtic blogs, and so he shares his space in the firing line as a proxy for PL.
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All I can see reading back on last night is people ganging up on anyone brave enough to point out the obvious if unpalatable truth. That we have problems,on the field and off,all of which could have been avoided. And as for denying that Paul and PL are on very good terms,what are you guys on? Of course they are,I certainly don’t have any problems with who people are friendly with and nor should anyone else.
Did I admit there were problems on the field (I can provide the quotes if you doubt it)? Did anyone? There may be differences about how serious are the consequences of our defeats but there is no-one saying they are unimportant. Is anyone denying that Paul67 has a better relationship with PL than many bloggers? Where is this stated? Who is on the drugs here?
But denying it,or asking for irrefutable proof? That’s what this blog has become now? Can’t voice an opinion,an observation,a perception? Proof only?
NOPE- my point was clearer than that i.e.- there were other interpretations of the “our treble” point that posters failed to consider as they rushed to conclude that Paul was talking about the future and not our current earned treble. I was not the one that was demanding proof. I was the one asking posters to consider the possibility that they could be wrong. As could I, if Paul 67, the only one who really knows his own mind, comes out and says- “Aye- I meant it all and I meant the future titles and trophies and we are going to win forever”.
How likely do you think that is?
As for happyclappers and mineshafters vying for the prized position as an oppressed minority on here, I have no doubts.
I state it clearly, the majority of match day attenders and, in the wider celtic support, ARE currently in the “mineshafter” bracket as they, and I believe there is something wrong within the club. We only difer on the odds and likelihood that it can be fixed.
I have to rush out now- catch replies later.
Day 858 as Celtic Manager.
SPFL 77 Games 59 Wins 4 Lost 14 drawn
176 Goals Scored 50 Conceded 191 Points
Scottish Cup
10 Games 10 Wins
34 Goals Scored 4 Conceded
League Cup
9 Games 9 Wins
29 Goals Scored 3 Conceded
@marktaylor1988
SFTB
I love you to bits mhate. Often disagree with you but your meticulous and ever-calm rebuttals crack me up and are much to be admired.
Like a benevolent form of water boarding. Or trying to punch a marshmallow!??
For the record, I didn’t read the lines quoted by BMCUW as triumphalism intended to wind up huns. I read it simply as triumphalist crowing and reflecting a wider malaise of complacency that seems now to have permeated into the squad and into the field.
HH jg
SETTINGFREETHEBEARS
The first part of my post was to you,and addressed a story such. See the lead article on August 3rd. I can’t believe that you are trying to debate its existence,or its intent.
The second part-there was a clear separation between the two-was a more general point.
Come on,T. You’re a decent guy,problems exist big time and you are holding people to Supreme Court standards of proof-and even that isn’t good enough,it seems. I quoted the article,ffs!-and hiding behind pedantry. People aren’t coming on here criticising the state of the club because they feel like it,it’s because they are genuinely concerned. And they are,in my opinion,quite right so to be.
Reading back,still so many would like to put the blame for the present shambles on the Board.Not backing the manager.Once more I will put out the figure.Brendan has been given £ 30 million to spend.Amazingly,you all know this,but chose to either ignore it,or even more amazingly,refuse to believe it.That is not failing to back the manage.How many times do you have to hear,Mc Ginn chose Villa,before you will accept it.The Italian many are using in their rants,how do we know what his demands were?£ 60-70 grand a week.No one knows,but he chose another club.What we do know is,our scouting department were abysmal.No replacement for Dembele lined up.Their answer to the CH problem,Mc Kenna.Not another CH mentioned from the team that gave us Commper,and a project from Dundee.The Killie right back,ignored.
The problem is,at the moment,we have the best pool of players in the league by a country mile.For whatever reason,the manager at present,cant get them gelling as a unit.It will come,but to try and blame all the ills on the Board is nothing short of moronic.That team should be ripping up this league,as Liverpool and City are doing in England,because,they have the best players.Every other bit of noise is just,as many on here like to use,just a Squirrel to divert from the real problems.They are all on the park.
Good mornings cqn from a dry and blustery Garngad
Tomorrow night no constant back passing please.
Let’s go forward intelligently with every opportunity please and with more conviction and pace
HH
D. :)
@ TURKEYBHOY on 25TH SEPTEMBER 2018 9:18 AM
Notwithstanding that I disagree with your figure of £30m. Do you not understand the concept of net spend? Brendan’s net spend is in the negative (and considerably so).
BMCUW,
Yes we sre all concerned,but our concern should be whats happening on the park.Mines is.Thats down to the manager and his staff.Nothing else.
As I said in last post,for some reason,Brendan is not,and has not for some time,apart from the Hun games,been getting the best out of a squad that is infinitely superior to the rest of the league.