Our best wishes to Jos Hooiveld, 28, who has managed to resurrect his career at Southampton 23 months after completing an unsuccessful move to Celtic. Southampton, newly promoted to the English Championship this season, sit top of the division, with Jos a key part of their success.
The big defender clearly has more than he was able to demonstrate during his time here, despite Celtic clearly being in need of a strong central defender. Last night, after Georgios Samaras was send forward to lead the line, it occurred to my just how unsuitable he is as part of a front two. All that gutsy energy, running and yes – bravery – both in terms of diving into challenges and always being available for a team mate, no matter what feedback he is receiving from the stands, is hidden when he’s up front.
Give him space to gallop into on the wing or let him find his own Southampton.
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hen1rik – the key with the “wee” tax bill is when did the first demand land on the doorstep at Ibrox. If it was prior to the deadline for the details of the UEFA club licence and for whatever reason it was not disclosed, then there is an unholy mess.
The deadline for submissions for a UEFA club licence with the SFA for season 2011/12 was 31/03/2011. If that bill, which the tax part is undisputed on, landed on the doorstep of Ibrox prior to the 31st March they unequivocally should not have had the opportunity to be pumped out of 2 European tournaments this year.
Considering the story goes WHyte unearthed this during his 6 months due dilligence, I find it very very hard to believe the bill was not known about prior to March 31st. In fact it is probably impossible looking at the timings of accounts where the provision was made for it.
voguepunter says:
2 December, 2011 at 11:29
Paddy Gallagher says:
2 December, 2011 at 11:23
I can confirm that the only thing that Paddy G gets stuck into is,Guinness.
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Support from my drinking buddies – what else could a man ask for :-))
Vinibhoy – Named Neil Lennon on his birth certificate says:
2 December, 2011 at 11:26
Agreed and WGS Helicopter Thursday was an amazing night.
But if I was asked to pick between the 2 it’s MON for me everyday of the week.
Mr RFC: “Now this bit about tax bills and stuff. The Revenue claim that we owe them a bit of cash but we have a legal opinion saying we don’t. It will all be sorted out soon, don’t worry.”
Mr SFA: “That will do nicely sir.” Stamps application as Accepted and offers funny handshake.
Fin
GS, with a fraction of the budge, took Celtic to the last 16 of the CL twice. He won 3 consecutive league titles, the first since big Jock to do so.
I for one will remember wee Gordon as fondly as I do MON.
Just received an email from RFC- Home jerseys- This weekend only- Buy 1 get 1 free.
Is this a shameless piece of exploitation from JJB, tricking the fans into believing they are financially helping their club?
Paddy Gallagher 2 December, 2011 at 11:23:
Don’t think anybody got stuck in although they should have for the hunnish nature of the posts. Glad to see it’s not only me that remembers the situation differently.
Although Saltires in Sevilla has been known to be ashamed to be a Celtic supporter.
Is there any irony in criticising cliques on the blog while springing to the defence of one of your pals accusing his critics of being bullies?
goldstar10 says:
2 December, 2011 at 11:35
Just received an email from RFC- Home jerseys- This weekend only- Buy 1 get 1 free.
Is this a shameless piece of exploitation from JJB, tricking the fans into believing they are financially helping their club?
Should be a good seller that – they will become limited editions soon – last strip ever!
fritzsong says:
2 December, 2011 at 11:12
That quote originally referred to Bismarck, you old clever richard. Not that Bismarck ever managed Celtic, of course. He was interviewed for the post but the Board felt that he was an opportunist.”
And he wasn’t Celtic-minded either, of course…:-(
RogueLeader says:
2 December, 2011 at 11:29
hen1rik – the key with the “wee” tax bill is when did the first demand land on the doorstep at Ibrox. If it was prior to the deadline for the details of the UEFA club licence and for whatever reason it was not disclosed, then there is an unholy mess.
At 10:40 there’s an article from phil I posted but in that article if you click the dailymail link it gives u the date m8 when it is alleged they knew.
In fifty years time when Gordon Strachan, Martin O’Neil and most of us have gone long to meet our maker, record books will ignite the imaginations of the Celtic Family of the day. I doubt any of then faithful will look back and judge with prejudice.
hamiltontim @ 11:17
I think BMCUW summed it up best @ 10:54
The different ways in which MON and WGS spoke to and about the support had a lot to do with how the support perceive them both in a different manner. WGS always had less respect for those who hadn’t played the game , and maybe he was just a wee bit too honest in dismissing the shell suit wearing devil dug owning supporters. MON was , in my view, a bit more diplomatic in dealing with people like that, and the press. He could cut them down to size, without them actually realising he had done it.
I didnt visit Parkhead as much under WGS as under MON, for various reasons, but when I did, nights such as the 3-0 v Benfica showed that he could get the team playing football too. I’dcompare the budgets though, look at our levels of debt pre and post MON and pre and post WGS – they are not drastically different, MON went for quality, WGS for quantity. A combination of both and we may have had some team.
iki says:
2 December, 2011 at 11:23
Neither optomist nor pessimist but realist.
Gordon_J at 10:38
Usually at an AGM there is a resolution to re-appoint the auditors and shareholders get to vote on this. In the vast majority of the case this passes without problems.
The shareholders can ask for a general meeting to remove an auditor but again this meeting needs to be called 14 days in advance and a special resolution asking for the removal of the auditor needs to take place. This will attract serious negative puiblicity for Rangers.
The auditor can resign at any time or not put itself up for re-appointment but needs to state the reasons why it doesn’t want the job again.
If the auditors do resign, the directors can appoint a new one without the need of a general meeting.
Mort
TMC -welcome back, hope you are well.
You could at least have posted something I coul;d have disagreed with!
Ceaser67, newradbhoy, fanadpatriot
re last night’s topic (wife-beating)…
i got this today from someone i know…
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With regards to the question at hand. If someone is divorced, then he or she has NOT excluded him or herself from recieving Holy Communion. If, however, the person is divorced and has entered into another “marriage” then the reception of Holy Communion is not permissable. If a declaration of nullity has been given regarding the first “marriage” (which has been judged not to have been a marriage), then the person is free to marry, and if the person does so in accordance with Christ teachings then recieving communion ‘without eating ones own condemnation’, as St. Paul says, is something to be encourage.
In the situation you mention I don’t know if a declaration of nullity has been given, but if the woman is living a chaste life (i.e. she isn’t living with someone esle) then she can recieve without contradicting her original promise to the man she married. She is not expected to live with someon who beats her, but she is called to be faithful to her marriage vows if these have been judged to be the real thing. Marriage always recieves the benefit of the doubt: so she has to view herself as being married, and act accordingly, until a judgment of a competent body says otherwise. The Cross is never far away in married life.
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Hope this helps.
TC
The Honest Mistake says:
2 December, 2011 at 11:38
Funny how some distort the facts when crying to Paul, his critisim was way over the top.
Why did duffield REALLY leave the SFA again???,
pauloantony says:
2 December, 2011 at 11:49
Why did duffield REALLY leave the SFA again???,
Do we have an extradition treaty with Brazil?
video of Wednesday’s launch event
(as non-reported once again by our state media)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esPAwzxNNmM&feature=channel_video_title
cardiffbhoy at 11:43
look at our levels of debt pre and post MON and pre and post WGS – they are not drastically different
Yes, but you do know the reason for that don’t you.
Instead of just focussing on debts, what was the cumulative profit (loss) during both periods?
From 2001-2005 (-£33.4m)
From 2005-2009 (+£16.9m)
Mort
cardiffbhoy at 11:43
Actually just looked at debt levels.
At year end 2000 – £14.5m
At year end 2005 – £19.5m
At year end 2009 – £1.7m
Mort
Re: MO’N v WGS
MO’N bonded the support and team as one!
WGS split the support but, despite the beginning of the PL downsizing era…WGS did well up to a point!
To cut a long story short….
WGS being given the Celtic job was like, as if the huns making Neil Simpson their manager! IMO!
Good day to you all…the orcs been kicked out the league yet?
Waiting to embark on a session with the Fatbhoys Slim Club…3 hours and counting…
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
kitalba says:
2 December, 2011 at 11:43
In 50 years time are you confident that any of the faithful will look back this far? If so, will they pause to consider the MON or WGS era as more significant than any other period?
Or will something more significant ignite (or excite) their imaginations in those far off days?
just so as everyone is sure
WGS spent more in transfer fees in 4 seasons that MON spent in 5 seasons
nice volley at 4:46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygUBagq7Jew
KevJungle – Put the Green Brigade into a new JUNGLE 2 December, 2011 at 11:57
WGS being given the Celtic job was like, as if the huns making Neil Simpson their manager! IMO!
I often wonder what goes on on your head to make you form opinions like that. Can you give any reasoning as to how you hold that opinion?
I’m Neil Lennon (tamrabam) 2 December, 2011 at 12:03:
I would be surprised at that as the accounts paint a different picture.
In 50 years time 80+ % of the posts on CelticEvenQuickerNews will be about the impending demise of the Horribles.
‘Surely THIS time they won’t survive!’
Another 15% will be along the lines of ‘We should have signed a centrehalf’ and the rest will be the usual mix of recipes and beauty tips.
cardiffbhoy says:
2 December, 2011 at 11:43
hamiltontim @ 11:17
“I didnt visit Parkhead as much under WGS as under MON, for various reasons,”
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I’ve never ‘visited’ Parkhead in my life mate. I’ve always gone because I want to support Celtic. Also it wouldn’t matter who was at the helm, I would still be there.
I’m Neil Lennon (tamrabam) at 12:03
WGS spent more in transfer fees in 4 seasons that MON spent in 5 seasons
I don’t have the actual figures for spend but in terms of profits made on trading, in MON’s tenure we spent £5.8m less than we recouped from player sales. Under Gordon Strachan, we spent £16.3m less than we made from selling players.
Mort
Mort – I don’t have all the figures in front of me now, so can’t disagree with your sums. My point was that O’Neill’s era wasn’t built completely on debt as many people seem to think. The Barnes era actually cost us as much. What did happen during MON’s reign is that Desmond increased his shareholding, to the detriment of the smaller shareholder, possibly on the back of a view that we would get a move to the EPL.
TopCorner says:
2 December, 2011 at 11:46
It seems to depend. Frank Sinatra married again late in life after his last retiral. He and his last wife were frequent communicants at his local parish. Now, his parish priest must have been unbelievably unworldly if he was unaware of Mr Sinatra’s long and chaotic marital histories.
cardiffbhoy at 12:10
And if he hadn’t increased his shareholding with the new issue of shares, our finances would be in a much more perilous situation.
I think the fans should have been given the opportunity to purchase more of these shares so as to dilute his holding but for whatever reason, this didn’t happen.
Mort
Seems somebody was getting stuck in Right enough, just wanted to check back though, just to be sure..
DUSHANBE BILLYBHOY says:
30 November, 2011 at 19:49
Beamishismypint says:
30 November, 2011 at 19:47
Spanish commentators feel Celtic very weak in defence!!!!!
THEY ARE RIGHT! DAN & F.F….THESE TWO CLOWNS ARE TICKING TIME BOMBS. HEARTS IN THE MOUTH ANY TIME BALL GETS NEAR OUR GOAL
DUSHANBE BILLYBHOY says:
30 November, 2011 at 19:53
THE “MATTRESS MAKERS” PUT US TO BED. THEY ARE 10TH IN SPANISH LEAGUE. SAYS IT ALL FOR ME HOW FAR WE HAVE FALLEN IN TERMS OF EXPECTATION. WE HAVE GOT LUCKY IN THE RESULT IN THE OTHER GROUP GAME
corrib04 is Neil Lennon says:
30 November, 2011 at 19:55
DUSHANBE BILLYBHOY
Completely disagree.
The Spanish league is light years ahead in quality my friend.
I think credit where credit is due. We tried hard against superior opposition and just came up short.
Paddy Gallagher says:
30 November, 2011 at 19:56
DUSHANBE BILLYBHOY says:
30 November, 2011 at 19:53
It’s all in the name.
There is an aurora about this place.
MWD
hamiltontim
i didnt go to Parkhead in that period to support the team , is that better for you ? I can confirm I continued supporting them from my armchair and the pub on the occasions that my personal circumstances didn’t permit me to be in the stadium.