Our best wishes to Jos Hooiveld, 28, who has managed to resurrect his career at Southampton 23 months after completing an unsuccessful move to Celtic. Southampton, newly promoted to the English Championship this season, sit top of the division, with Jos a key part of their success.
The big defender clearly has more than he was able to demonstrate during his time here, despite Celtic clearly being in need of a strong central defender. Last night, after Georgios Samaras was send forward to lead the line, it occurred to my just how unsuitable he is as part of a front two. All that gutsy energy, running and yes – bravery – both in terms of diving into challenges and always being available for a team mate, no matter what feedback he is receiving from the stands, is hidden when he’s up front.
Give him space to gallop into on the wing or let him find his own Southampton.
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Mort says:
2 December, 2011 at 09:59
For the attention of those who would criticise each and every Celtic player who gets misrepresented by the press. Wise words from our manager:
“I’m not going to berate Beram for doing an interview and then for people to put their own slant on it.”
Agree, but why speak to them at all? Let the manager do all pre/post match interviews and don’t put up any players for interview.
I was going to get the wife a new bag and belt for her Christmas.
Can’t for the life of me remember what type of hoover she has…..
HH
ForgetfulCSC
Posted this on Phjil MacGB’s site, in response to complaints the board is not doing enough regarding the Huns. Given the posts on here i am reposting:
It’s one thing to complain about something, it’s a whole different kettle of fish when you are the likely beneficiary of £10s of millions.
Celtic is already thought of as the cuckoo in the nest, its players and managers attacked in the streets and at their place of work, bombs and bullets are sent to staff and high profile supporters of the club, with if not tacit approval certainly not the expected outcry of the Scottish Natioal Press.
if Rangers go down for tax or financial mismanagement reasons, well they only have themselves to blame. Imagine the outcry, the vilification in the press, if Celtic’s running to the authorities was what finally drove the stake into the black heart of RFC. To pursue a “national institution” into into bankruptcy would have ramifications which would make everything that has previously happened to Celtic like a minor ripple on a pond compraed to the driving of a bloody great union jack emblazoned 4×4 through same.
Seriously, do you not see that?
The SFA chose not to obey its own rules because they are Rangers supporters (literally and figuratively) – you think they will change because one team out of twelve SPL teams makes a fuss? It’ll be back in your box timmy – we’re working for SCOTTISH football.
Imho the Celtic board have rightly seen they have to wait for Rangers to die from their own self-immolation, rather than require us to chuck a spoonful of accelerant onto their fire.
Weather: Sun setting but still 26 degrees and humid as hell in singapore. I think I contributed a couple of percenrtage points in sweat today. Sorry about that singaporeans. Flying home today – can’t wait to be in the cold again…
Kayal33 says:
2 December, 2011 at 10:03
Mort says:
2 December, 2011 at 09:59
‘Let the manager do all pre/post match interviews and don’t put up any players for interview.’
Like when Neil Lennon used The Sun to tell us not to sing bad songs?
The Sun.
Vogue/Mort
I don’t believe a word the football press in this country. But for this very reason I’d much prefer that our players and management gave them the bare minimum of co operation. Don’t allow them to put a negative spin on things, starve them. Tell them to take a long walk on a short pier preferably wearing a pair of concrete laden platforms.
hamiltontim at 10:02
Heard on the radio driving into work that Martin O’Neill set a British club record when he led Celtic to 26 consecutive league wins.
I thought it was 25.
The previous record was 14 set by Manchester United in the Second Division (1904–05), equalled by Bristol City the following year also in the Second Division. In the top flight, Arsenal also won 14 consecutive games from 10 February 2002 and 24 August 2002.
Any prizes for guessing who holds second place in British football?
That’s right, Neil Lennon who won 16 consecutive games at the beginning of his tenure.
Mort
setting free the bears says:
2 December, 2011 at 09:36
I agree MON would never have come back – much like Henrik wouldnt have in the latter days of his career.
Certain individuals, would never risk losing what the persona they have by going back for a second time.
I can understand that.
The very fact some people, myself included if I am being honest would love to have him back is the living proof.
Maybe its people who are not tainted with arrogance or vanity – that even when they have a supreme confidence in their own ability are still shrowded with the uncertainty of the ‘what if’ scenarios.
That is no bad thing and actually a wonderful characteristic to have – its probably why we love people like that so much; its easier to identify with the person behind the uniform if he displays characteristics we can identify with.
Humbleness is another.
There arent too many in the professional game who possess them – Henrik had them all in larger quantities than any other ‘famous / successful’ human being I know (from a distance).
MON is gone and not coming back.
Setting the Bears Free I may differ from your opinion here – but I am one who doesnt want WGS back. I am one who would see it as a backward step – we saw his tactics and it bored the life out of us. Any advice coming from WGS tactically would only see us resort back closer back to the days of whilst being difficult to beat – players as rigid as statues.
footballs an entertainment business.
I reckon we go and emply a dutch coach – or maybe a spanish one and try to blend the blood guts and glory of our current management team, with the penache, passing and movement of a continental team.
Lets move forward.
We have a fantastic potential within that squad – we just need a wee bit more than we have in the locker to help us progress beyond where we are.
Maybe you disagree – always interested in an alternative point of view
Hail Hail
My mum ran off with the milkman when I was eight years old. Watching them drive away on his float were the worst three hours of my life.
AlwaysTomorrowCSC
Mort,
Wonder if they will manage to find a new auditor? And will they be asked to pay the year’sfees up front?
Mort says:
2 December, 2011 at 09:59
Correct – I think its one of the bloggers on Celticfanzone who has done that particular site a disservice by falling into their traps.
ernie lynch says:
2 December, 2011 at 10:07
Kayal33 says:
2 December, 2011 at 10:03
Mort says:
2 December, 2011 at 09:59
Like when Neil Lennon used The Sun to tell us not to sing bad songs?
yes
setting free the bears says:
2 December, 2011 at 09:36
Well said Sir
I for one remember the dire football MON served up towards the end.
Tin Hat on…….. Check
Going out anyway so no point bolding me.
Gordon_J at 10:10
Any professional organisation, such as auditors, can’t fail to have noticed the endless court cases surrounding Rangers with relatively small bills. Would you give them any credit? I certainly wouldn’t.
Mort
Willie Maley 62 games unbeaten.
62 games (49 won, 13 drawn), from 13 November 1915 until 21 April 1917.
Still the UK record; unlikely to be beaten.
Only blemish which takes the gloss off the glory is the fact that the games were played during wartime.
Mort,
Surely no one will give them credit right now? And there’s also the reputational risk of being associated with Mr Whyte and co
DBBIA
Ssshhh, Don’t mention the war!
Mort
PS. Have you shaved your lip fuzz yet?
Mort
I’ll bow to your superior statistical knowledge. Also the radio tuning in the old Bentley ain’t what it used to be.
Gordon_J
It’s fun though isn’t it?
Mort
hamiltontim at 10:16
I’ll bow to your superior statistical knowledge. Also the radio tuning in the old Bentley ain’t what it used to be.
Good man. Let’s hope Neil can break that record and Willie Maley’s record.
Mort
EWO
Are you forgetting that it was a discussion between Lenny and WGS that resulted in a 2-0 victory at Ibrox in January?
Kittoch- Aye, and Craig Bellamy single handedly kept them afloat. A shambles of a team.
Strange how Murray and Lloyds Bank were so intent on pushing a deal through with Dubious D Whyte.
They must have known his background.
Cant wait for the next instalment of ” Huns in Freefall”
Dontbrattbakkinanger says:
2 December, 2011 at 10:14
In a way it takes the gloss off of it. I prefer to look at it as it being all the more impressive when one considers much of the team were actually being shot at the front line whereas shipbuilders FC had a full squad to choose from.
hamiltontim says:
2 December, 2011 at 10:08
Stop the press (pun) I agree with……… Hamiltontim
I saw a Celtic treble happening before that!!!!
Morning all from a crisp and sunny Jersey. Is it reasonable to assume rangers paid their wages for December then? Tut!
Some of the football we played under MON was as bad as WGS. It’s a case of absence makes the heart grow fonder. MON was truly blessed when discovering upon his arrival st Parkhead that he had 2 of the most gifted footballers of their generation already in situ in Henke and Lubo.
Most of his signings were added to ensure we were solid, direct and difficult to break down. Frequently it wasn’t any better than what we saw under WGS, on a fraction of the budget.
EWO
That’s because I talk sense.
Ye know it’s the case :))
November even :-( Still Tut!!
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon 2 December, 2011 at 10:10:
The telling thing is that they haven’t managed to find another auditor. Not a lone Bear out there to sign off these accounts. Not one of whyte’s friends ready to get themselves struck off to do him or his team a favour. This says it all.
hamiltontim says:
2 December, 2011 at 10:27
Some of the football we played under MON was as bad as WGS. It’s a case of absence makes the heart grow fonder. MON was truly blessed when discovering upon his arrival st Parkhead that he had 2 of the most gifted footballers of their generation already in situ in Henke and Lubo.
Most of his signings were added to ensure we were solid, direct and difficult to break down. Frequently it wasn’t any better than what we saw under WGS, on a fraction of the budget.
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Agreed!
Mort -it’s gone, praise the Lord!
There is a photo which will be appearing very soon.
Hoopslegend Giorgios Samaras is lucky; his lovely hair is effortless, the rest of us less fortunate have to work very hard at the ole male grooming.
HAMILTONTIM 1027
MON was a great believer in winning the battle before winning the game.
He always had the players to do the former,but sometimes struggled to look good doing the latter.
My Dad and I frequently disagreed with each other on our tae on this;I thought it was frequently turgid,but he had lived through too many lean years to give a monkey’s how trophies were won.
He was right,I’m afraid to say. But if we’d won the league as often this century as we should have done,then I’d have been right!
hamiltontim says:
2 December, 2011 at 10:27
Some of the football we played under MON was as bad as WGS. It’s a case of absence makes the heart grow fonder. MON was truly blessed when discovering upon his arrival st Parkhead that he had 2 of the most gifted footballers of their generation already in situ in Henke and Lubo.
Most of his signings were added to ensure we were solid, direct and difficult to break down. Frequently it wasn’t any better than what we saw under WGS, on a fraction of the budge
TRUE
hamiltontim says:
2 December, 2011 at 10:19
Its good to see things are back to normal.
You cant seriously credit that result with a phone conversation!?
Tell ya what, to even avoid discussing the thousand other variables which would have had more of an impact on the result, one being discussed, Ill use one
That game would not have finished 2-0 if it wasnt for Beram Kayal, regardless.
The man who is apparently a coward, who had returned to training from injury 2 days before the game delivered one of the most influential and inspired performance I have ever seen in football.
(Atmosphere at that game was definitely the best I can ever remember)
saltires en sevilla says:
2 December, 2011 at 06:32
Good morning fellow Celts from (it’s too early to tell what weather is doing) North Hampshire
just catching up after a busy few days and delighted our young team could compete with a La Liga team and unlucky not to grab a point
would have been delighted we still had qualification in our own hands going into the last game when the draw was made..a sign of progress and the management and players are learning whilst playing decent fitba
Sad to see some posters (Paddy Gallagher and Honest Mistake and others) getting stuck into Dushanbe Billyboy during the game. That does you no credit lads. I have known Ulsterman, Liam from the Uni bus for 30 years and have been to many games with him including behind the oul’ Iron Curtain. Following the Celts, when getting more than one European tie a season was considered a good campaign. He is a true Bhoy and you guys are showing a lack of quality in your judgement.
The best thing about this site is how Paul67 allows everyone to have a voice (within the rules) and resists calls to ban people with alternative or individual views. For me that is the Celtic Way ..open and inclusive
The thing about cliques is…they are dead obvious and not very nice at all…a form of hunnery & bullying and not really the Celtic Way
HH
M
PS. DBB please ditch the CAPS ;-)
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Thanks Saltires in Sevilla. Greetings from Central Asia. I think it is very sad when posters on here have to justify their Celtic credentials to make a democratic point, and I use the word “democratic” very losely. The paranoia levels on here is akin to how Stalin and the Stasi divided and ruled their peoples. To say I was furious at the way I was treated on the basis of some poster’s misguided interpretation of my Moniker is deeply disturbing. I am very disappointed that Paul 67, as the Guardian and Gatekeeper of this site did not come to my aid. I suggest that an “admission test” is done for all new (and existing posters) requesting answers to a number of questions about our great club’s illustrious history. Only after satisfactorily passing this test will these new/existing CQN candidates be allowed to post. You might well find that many of apparent bona fide supporters on here, who really have hidden agendas, will not take the time to complete such a questionaire or indeed will not know the answers. Paul 67, whatever you decide, a root & branch review is urgently needed as the acrimony level on CQN is needlessly rising. Classic divide and rule tactics of our adversaries. FINALLY S.E.S…..I WILL DITCH THE CAPS IF YOU STOP SAYING “OUTWITH” INSTEAD OF “OUTSIDE”…..:))))). You know what a bugbear that word is for me. Ho, ho.
Paddy G
Informed speculation is that the MBB is allegedly paying wages, but only wages. Allegedly, NICs are slow in making it to their fit and proper destination and, as we have all seen, the only way for some creditors to get even relatively small bills paid is to go to court.
Why he is doing things this way no one is really sure. The most likely explanation is that he is hoping for the tribunal to find in favour of HMRC, at which point the blame for the demise of their football club will lie with those responsible for the employee benefits trust debacle and the MBB won’t be het. If the shutters come down before the tribunal concludes, the MBB will cop the blame.
David Murray’s QC is said to have played a blinder in stringing the tribunal hearings out for as long as he has. Of course, that could just be a coincidence.
These Whyte type characters usually like to operate in the murky shadows well out of the public eye .
Wonder if he is now regretting getting involved with a high profile football club.
There are websites dedicated to following his every move .
Hes been exposed on national TV.
rangers & Whyte -what a match!
Morning CQNer’s
The way I see it…..
SFA/Police/SNP/Most of the media/Celtic board…..
they’re all complicit in the safe-guarding of the huns future ?
Wake up and get behind the hoops like the GB do and, apply the only logic applicable to defeating hunism….
“put the ball in the net more than them and, thats ALL there is to it!” – Mr Stein!