The Men who sold the Jerseys, Geordie-hostility-feeder

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Congratulations to Mark Daly and the BBC production team behind The Men who sold the Jerseys, who received the award from the Royal Television Society for Best regions current affairs and news event for their documentary into the goings-on in the years before Rangers descended into liquidation.  They won against Grananda’s Hillsborough – The Truth At Last, which centred on a hugely important human and political story, which illustrates the standard of achievement.

Television journalist of the year

Congratulations also to Alex Thomson, of Chanel 4 News, “one of the UK’s leading correspondents. With a portfolio of coverage from Syria to door stepping Kelvin Mackenzie over Hillsborough, to Glasgow Rangers, he displays great range and versatility with a knack for finding strong angles and compelling stories. He brings real authority and storytelling skills to whatever he covers.”

Thomson is a game changer.  Never has a UK journalist had so many people wanting him to stop asking questions, including many in his own industry.  Fortunately he appears to be some kind of Geordie-hostility-feeder.

Good journalism is important. Well done to the winners and those in their support teams.
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  1. Bawsman @ 14 22..

     

     

    ” where you can argue that it’s your oil , and not theirs ”

     

     

    Yes —– history has shown that nationalism tends to be strongest at the fringes of an Empire . If an Independent Scotland comes to pass it’ll be interesting to see how people in the likes of the Shetland Isles take to being ” Scottish “

  2. Trophybhoy

     

    14:08 on

     

    21 February, 2013

     

     

    I’m not getting drawn into a political spat, I’ve already stated I’m scunnered with Nationalists peddling their crap on football websites.

     

     

    My point of view is that Nationalism of any flavour (they are trying to Unite in Ireland not divide, before some pedant goes on one).

     

     

    Nationalists and Nationalism revolt me, let’s leave it at that.

     

     

    You can go speak with like minded on some Orkney/Shetland website where you can argue that it’s your oil, and not theirs.

     

     

     

     

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    I will take that as I cant produce any evidence then. p.s i will keep checking your posts to make sure its all good clean football talk. By the way Dublin would run a mile if london offered her northern ireland And also why would i `need to run to the northern isles to talk about independence when the vast majority who want it live in the central belt.

  3. Celtic_First

     

    13:05 on

     

    21 February, 2013

     

     

    I think the way things are developing is that the internet bampots have become the unpaid researchers who look at issues and ideas and by bringing them to blogs allow other minds and experience to comment on them and refine/discard them.

     

     

    Its a bit like harvesting wheat to separate the wheat from the weeds and then threshing it to separate grain from the stalk.

     

     

    At present much depends on someone in the msm entering the harvest field to search for the grain but with so many fields and so much stalk lying around kernels of truth and reality get missed by the ultimate millers.

     

     

    I reckon that in due course, if not already, links are being forged between those in the msm who see their job as to inform as opposed to misinform and bampots in the fields who can separate the wheat from the weeds and can point at the field with the kernels and thus a collaberation is formed.

     

     

    I think this process will continue inexorably to almost make the gatherers and the millers indistinguishable but for now both need each other.

  4. saltires en sevilla – Ever seen Stephen Fry and Philvis on the same crouquet lawn? ;-)

     

     

    Baaahhhh! (thumbsup)

  5. Auldheid.

     

     

    A fine analogy. Our job is to be as in-depth as we can be and to flag up the questions that need asking. It is more the MSM’s job to ask the questions, report the answers and follow up with supplementary questions that occur to us as well as to them after we analyse what they tell us.

     

     

    This has a future.

     

     

    When was the last time anyone read a match-report in a newspaper? That sort of thing only has a past.

  6. ‘good journalism is important’ sure is Paul . I’d love to hear your views on leveson and self regulation/independent authority, probs a bit big for a footie blog

  7. South Of Tunis

     

    14:24

     

     

    Hmmm. This from the grand master of the Grand Orient of Italy.

     

     

    That’s a bit like deadybears saying that when Celtic won the 2011-2012 SPL the title was tainted.

     

     

    PragueCemetryCSC

  8. Mountain_Bhoy is Neil Lennon on

    ernie and philvis, are you two actually the same poster? all day every day you are posting anti-independence propoganda. When anyone dares debate, you both gang up and bully. Shocking abuse of this blog. Your behaviour is more becoming of the Orange movement not as Celtic Fans

  9. GourockEmeraldBhoy on

    Channelislandcelt

     

     

    Thoughts and prayers with you and your family.

     

     

    KTF

     

     

    HH

  10. I can’t understand all the nervousness about independence. Get involved, get things changed, have the debates and try to do something positive. If you think Scotland is the most bigoted country in the world fair enough but then try to do something about it instead of moaning about it.

     

    In ten or twenty years time we will look back and think that (independence or not) Alex Salmond was brave, bold and right to be pushing hard on renewable energy. Mark my words.

     

    And Scotland has a problem with alcohol abuse. Something needs to change and minimum pricing may, or may not be the answer but at least the SNP are trying to find a solution.

  11. Neilbhoy

     

     

    I agree about renewable energy and I hope the projections and predictions come true.

     

     

    This has been a cold winter. As it progresses, I am becoming more and more angry at the thought of people on low incomes feeling they can’t afford to heat their homes adequately because “the market”, with “shareholder value” as energy providers’ principal concern, has pushed prices to unaffordable levels. This is an unspeakable disgrace.

     

     

    Energy provision should be nationalised. No one should be trying to make a profit from people seeking to heat their homes.

  12. Celtic First @ 14 22 .

     

     

    Exactly !

     

     

    Offered up to demonstrate the many possible layers of the Nationalist Onion . The biscuit man was/is a hero to many and a real threat to others . There is no shortage of Sicilian things celebrating that great hero of Italian Unification —– I’m told that the official Church stays well clear . It is a fault line which continues to run through aspects of Italian society.

  13. neilbhoy

     

     

    15:01 on 21 February, 2013

     

     

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    ————In ten or twenty years time we will look back and think that (independence or not) Alex Salmond was brave, bold and right to be pushing hard on renewable energy. Mark my words.

     

    And Scotland has a problem with alcohol abuse. Something needs to change and minimum pricing may, or may not be the answer but at least the SNP are trying to find a solution.

     

     

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    O Dear,

     

     

    I think that is my YES vote back to being,’ Mibbees Aye, Mibbees NAW.’

     

     

    :¬)))

  14. Paul67

     

     

    Just in case you have an issue the last 2 days when I have clicked on a link to CQN, once from Facebook and once from my browser I have not been directed to CQN but instead gone to a Russian site which my antivirus blocks as a Trojan.

     

    Only seems to happen the first time I click on a link, second time I get through to CQN without an issue.

     

    Anyone else having this issue or is it just me?

  15. Auldheid 14:42 on 21 February, 2013

     

     

    Well the digital arm of one the MSM broadsheets has definitely reached out to the blogging community, so it’ll be interesting to see how that develops.

  16. playfusbal4dguilders on

    GordonJ – apologies for the apostrophy abuse.

     

     

    tomtheleedstim – could well be mixing them up, if their, dealing so liberally with other peoples money.

     

     

    play

  17. Kilbowie Kelt

     

     

    14:27 on 21 February, 2013

     

     

    Equating Ireland’s and Scotland’s relationships with the UK (which in effect is what you are doing) is like equating rape with consensual sex.

  18. Bawsman

     

    12:32 on

     

    21 February, 2013

     

    We have journalists in Scotland………………Shock!!!!!!!

     

     

    Wee bit late catching up.

     

     

    Was Jabba not reported last week as feeling that he could not trust them to report in a balanced manner.

  19. neilbhoy

     

     

    15:01 on 21 February, 2013

     

     

     

    ‘In ten or twenty years time we will look back and think that (independence or not) Alex Salmond was brave, bold and right to be pushing hard on renewable energy. Mark my words.’

     

     

     

     

    Renewable energy ie wind farms is a scam. Pure and simple. Green hogwash for the greedy, duplicitous and stupid.

  20. Quick one to say Cheers for the comments

     

    I never thought it was that good!

     

     

    Like I said at the start, that must be one of how many personal stories? There is a book in it somewhere.

     

     

    Anyway Independance…

     

     

    The saddest comment of all I noticed on the train was that we are capable of deciding the ‘least worst option’ for ourselves!

     

     

    Nooooh!

     

     

    If this can’t be seen as a monumental opportunity for real change then hang your head in shame.

     

     

    3 facts to consider…

     

    Scotland has 60% land mass of England

     

    Scotland has 10% of the population of England

     

    Scottish water has never been below critical levels for decades.

     

     

    Jeezo, it’s like sitting at a card game with 2 aces but you don’t know the rules!

     

     

    Party politics is in dire need of root and branch change. . Thatchers economic revolution is only now being seen as far too out of control….This is the moment!

  21. The Token Tim

     

     

    Report cards for U9 football?

     

     

    A bit much I would think however feedback in the right way is Not a bad thing.

     

     

    Cant see it being introduced in my youngests team who are

     

    presently top of the league. Three of 4 main coaches all played for teams run by their dads(old school) one from Toryglen one from Castlemilk and one from the Greenhills.

     

     

    I am going to love asking them tonight when the boys will be getting a report card.

  22. ernie lynch – 15:16 on 21 February, 2013

     

     

    But they are highly visible so you can be seen to be ‘doing something’ about climate change.

     

     

    A friend of mine’s dad is/was a professor of fluid dynamics and reckons if all the wind farm subsidies had been put in to researching wave and tidal power, we’d probably be self-sufficient, if not now then in the very near future.

  23. Celtic_First

     

     

    15:05 on 21 February, 2013

     

     

     

     

    ‘I agree about renewable energy and I hope the projections and predictions come true.’

     

     

     

    A scam whereby farmers and landowners receive enormous payments paid for by what amounts to a regressive tax on consumers.

     

     

    And achieving nothing.

  24. neilbhoy

     

     

    The problem I have with independence is I don’t see the need for it. We can pursue a renewable energy policy within the confines of the Union, likewise with alcohol regulation. Both are devolved competencies of the Scottish Parliament. Even absent devolution I don’t see that these policies require a particularly Scottish focus; what is peculiarly Scottish about wanting to tackle alcohol dependency? Particularly, what is so peculiarly Scottish about such an agenda that it requires major constitutional overhaul?

     

     

    The most obvious question to ask is whether we would do better financially on our own? I don’t see an argument that convinces me we would, and I think that’s what convinces most people that independence isn’t worth the hassle.

  25. monteblanco

     

     

    15:17 on 21 February, 2013

     

     

    ‘We didn’t mind the economic side so much’

     

     

    Salmond on Thatcher.

  26. ernie

     

     

    The first thing I would do is boot him into touch afterwards….along with wee whits her face from Labour. A bunch of charlatans, there are far greater minds in Scotland who have disengaged with politics. That needs to change.

     

     

    Or get the Catholic church to instruct every Catholic to join the SNP, wipe them out that way :)

     

    Democracy, why don’t we reclaim it?

  27. The Battered Bunnet on

    John Boothman, head of news and current affairs at BBC Scotland, commenting today on Mark Daly’s award winning documentary said…

     

     

    “The revelations made a big impact, casting fresh light on one of the most significant sports stories in recent years.”

     

     

    Eh?

     

     

    One of…?

     

     

    In recent years…?

     

     

    I must have missed the others. Were Man Utd busted for decades of prolific doping?

     

     

    Has someone revealed that Arsene Wenger is in fact Carla Bruni’s mother?

  28. Celtic_First

     

    15:26 on

     

    21 February, 2013

     

    Ernie

     

     

    Wave power, amigo. That’s the thing

     

     

    Scotland has the ability to develop Hyrdo Electric power massively over the coming decades.

     

    Could easily become an enegy exporter once renewables fully developed. Know who would be the main customer mmmmmm

  29. The Spirit of Arthur Lee on

    Andy Cushley‏@tiptontim

     

     

    Arsenal last won a trophy back in 2005 and the ‘crazy frog ‘ was No1 8 years on and he’s still there

  30. Ernie

     

     

    To answer your points:

     

     

    You’re an SNP activist posting SNP propaganda on here but you’ve never heard of the SNP being referred to as the Strictly No Papes party?

     

     

    No, that is what I already said. You’ll just have to believe me on that one. I don’t think I did post propaganda, I posted someone’s opinion from Newsnet Scotland – a source of information that doesn’t tell lies about the Nationalists unlike the BBC who misconstrued the words of the Irish Foreign Minister about the membership of the EU because they were indulging in Unionist propaganda. They also ran to the Czech republic to get a negative story regarding Scotland’s membership quoting a guy who recently lost the Presidential election to an old dyed in the Wool communist. What they got was an opinion which didn’t really say very much one way or another, not a fact but they tried to present it that way.

     

     

    An opinion about making a constitution which is more inclusive in an Independent Scotland is something I find interesting and something which could help to end decades of Sectarianism. Something worth hoping for in my opinion.

     

     

    Do you accept that the SNP was founded on a wave of anti Irish Catholic immigrant feeling in Scotland, with a view to furthering that agenda?

     

     

    No. Scottish Independence was the primary motive. Go look up the Scottish Protestant League who had that agenda openly and overtly and who won seats in Glasgow – that’s who was formed on a wave of Anti-Irish Catholic immigrant feeling and they were quite explicit about it, not one guy in one book you always quote. In any event things have moved on if only ever so slightly from 1930’s Scotland.

     

     

     

    Apologies?

     

     

    No. The SNP leaders have never apologized or as a party. Did Tony Blair Apologize for his illegal war? Maybe to his priest after he converted (because you cannot be PM and an Catholic – although it is something of a grey area – no PM has ever been anything other than Protestant) More up to date don’t you think. The SNP opposed that war just for the record.

     

     

    I knew Mr Wolfe would come up – you are after all a broken record on this subject. He did good things for the party and ruined it at the end. He mobilized the SNP and made them credible in the 1970s. He was an honorary President who lost his place in the party following those comments and eventually repented and even married a Catholic. The party were embarrassed and angered by him at the time and he was not return and no wonder however years later:

     

     

    ” In 1993 Wolfe married Kate Mac-Ateer, whose late husband had been one of the party’s leading election agents, and this relationship brought him much happiness. He was quite open in talking of the personal growth he felt he had achieved and was particularly concerned at what he saw as the negative effect of his type of Scottish background and upbringing. It was this, he believed, which had driven him so bluntly, and so wrongly, to criticise the papal visit to Scotland. Ironically, his second wife was a Catholic.”

     

     

    Is that not an apology? Even of sorts?

     

     

    Even bigots can change – have you never seen American History X?

     

     

     

    Separation of Church and State?

     

     

    The separation of Church and state is not complete as the article showed and indeed as the PM status has shown – he cannot advise the Sovereign unless he is Anglican – a law as outdated and worthless as I think the Union is now – before you say it Australia keep the Crown as well – it keeps dimwits happy and it is the SNP’s way of getting round the blue mob from the South side. I accept policy is not made based primarily on what the Church says to the degree it once was – Gay marriage being case in point – it wouldn’t be up for discussion if both were inseparable.

     

     

    Scotland more bigoted than England?

     

     

    In what sense?

     

     

    Religion? Race? Political identity – European or British? Class? The way you talk is as if England is the land of chocolate and smiles and discrimination, bigotry, racism, Islamaphobia, Right-wing defence leagues and other assorted nutters (like UKIP) simply don’t exist or are so minuscule that it really isn’t that important.

     

     

    Or do you only consider bigotry to be one thing?

     

     

    Scotland does not have its troubles to seek and does have its problems with things everyone on this blog are well aware of but I find this notion that there is much much more bigotry here than anywhere else a little misleading at best.

     

     

    I don’t accept that Scotland is more or less bigoted, just different because I don’t think there is a country in the world without some form of it – where I live there is bigotry also and it is very disturbing let me tell you but do I class the whole country as bigots? No that is stupid – however, there are openly anti-Gypsy and Anti-Hungarian political parties here (Hungarian cannot be used in official documentation in Slovakia and even in a Hungarian language school all paperwork must be in Slovak and you can be arrested for simply speaking to a policeman in that language despite a significant Hungarian population living here – yet Scotland is a total backwater? Come on. Open discrimination like that? Scotland is nowhere near that.

     

     

    Labour coming back to win with Milliband? I’ll believe it when I see it. Labour will get the northern vote they always do and the Tories who went Lib Dem will go back to their roots and the Lib Dems will get wiped out. You’d better Hope UKIP actually do take some of the Tory vote.

     

     

    Everyday you and a few others come on here and bang on and on about Scottish nationalism and the evils of the SNP and when people like me raise any counter point you go ballistic and are ably assisted might I add. I’m sick and tired of people coming on here and attacking the point of view which a number of people hold which is Scotland should be independent – we are allowed to hold that view and people like you try to bully us into accepting your point of view without an ounce of consideration for our feelings and they are largely emotional. Putting aside the rights and wrongs of that, it is an emotional decision as much as a political or economic one and for you to come on and constantly snipe on this topic and berate people who dare question you back or offer an alternative view is a poor show in my book.

     

     

    I am not ordering or forcing anyone to vote yes. It makes sense to me (maks sense tae me) and to quite a few others principally because I think the 5 million who live in Scotland should have their own country to see their votes always count (because in many elections they haven’t proportionally – we don’t vote for Tories anymore and haven’t done for a very long time as a country) because 14 million people in London and the South East can always force through a government we rarely agree with.

     

     

    Once the mature and intelligent term Sock puppets comes out your whole thing is belittled quite frankly.

  31. Celtic_First

     

     

    15:26 on 21 February, 2013

     

     

    ‘Ernie

     

     

    Wave power, amigo. That’s the thing.’

     

     

     

    You probably mean tidal.

     

     

    At the moment neither are producing electricity.

     

     

    Salmond and the SNP meantime are intent on destroying Scotland’s landscape with wind farms.

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