If you’ve been here for a while you’ll have noticed I don’t pay much attention to preseason friendlies but tomorrow’s game against Wolfsburg takes on a more serious tone after Tuesday’s reversal – Celtic desperately need to find sharpness.
Despite the well-placed confidence that we’ll cope comfortably at Celtic Park on Wednesday against Lincoln Red Imps, the serious challenges will come thick and fast thereafter.
Players need to find their edge and the manager needs to learn who goes where and works with whom. It’s just about possible for us to get things together, but whoever we pull out of the hat in today’s provisional third qualifying round draw will be delighted to catch a team in apparent flux.
All this brings us back to Wolfsburg’ a much needed test.
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Mats Nilloc
“In the last two attemps at CL qualification under Ronny, we were down to the final ninety-minutes in each case. In both ties we were in an eminently winnable position – we blew it on the park, not in the boardroom, against opposition with resources far inferior than ours.
That’s the hard and irrefutable evidence, now if some chose to hold another view, one that backs up their agenda…..well that’s their choice.”
Allow me, if not a refutation, at least a clarification on that narrative.
We were not down to the last 90 minutes 2 years ago- we had already been knocked out on the football field only to gain reprieve from a small and innocent admin error by Legia. We were knocked out twice on the pitch that year.
And, moving closer to refutation, you have done nothing to rebut the hypothesis that Boardroom decisions on spend impacts upon quality on the pitch.
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 15TH JULY 2016 2:40 PM
Timbhoy29…,
So your saying you have no more reliable information than anyone else and we should just accept your word, and you can provide no evidence to support your claims and make silly arguments justify not providing evidence.
Some how I don’t see you as any more knowledgable than anyone else and everything you say is the result of wishful thinking and made up none sense. Too many players have been signed while the club has no manager in position yet you insist that PL has not signed anyone, are you serious ?
Sober up.
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You see, this is what I don’t get about you. There is absolutely no need to be confrontational about this.
“So your saying you have no more reliable information than anyone else”
I cannot comment fully on the reliability of other peoples information. Once again, I don’t deny that other people have information that could be perfectly reliable.
I believe that the information I get is reliable. Though there is certainly going to be some bias attached to that information.
“we should just accept your word”
Actually, if you read my post fully, I suggested that you should make up your own mind about what to believe. I quite like getting information from inside the club as I care about it. I wouldn’t betray the confidence of those who tell me what’s going on to satisfy people on a blog.
I don’t expect you to believe me and I won’t be making any attempts to do so. The PLC are the ones who should be passing information to fans and shareholders.
“and you can provide no evidence to support your claims”
“Now as to what proof I will accept, let’s start with a contract that has the managers signature as being the club representative signatory. Minutes of negotiations between managers and agents will do as well.”
I greatly appreciate the work you do regarding resolution 12. I am surprised that somebody who has been involved in a campaign that has been so careful about providing information in the private domain would expect me to produce a copy of a signed contract on the blog
“make silly arguments justify not providing evidence”
I don’t need to justify anything.
I’m a fan discussing football on a blog. I don’t expect or demand anybody to agree with me or believe me. I don’t see anybody else producing legal documentation when it comes to the accusations that Peter Lawwell signs players without the managers permission
Timaloy29
You have outlined the theory.. I’m focussed on the practice…
Why did Lenny leave? Why did MoN not like PL?
Who presided too long over over the Ronny fiasco and repeatedly backed him?
On the other hand who didn’t appoint arguably our two box office managerial appointments of recent years?
The answer is the same. The club will not prosper with Lawwell piling the strings … However he most certainly has prospered…
MWD
Answers on a postcard?:)
HH
TBB
Suitably shamed. Am I correct, therefore, in thinking there is no evidence ( For the existence of Jesus)?
JJ
PS Sorry for the intermittent posts but I am watching the Tour.
TD67
How do you define blew it?
How could we blow it?
Celtic were presented with evidence that Res 12 should be carried after they said it wasn’t necessary.
That is why they adjourned because the evidence was persuasive. That of itself was a victory for small shareholders. A first in AGM history.
Then we got the SFA to reply and make a public statement whereby the door to UEFA was opened. That was a victory in the accountability stakes (the underlying motive of Res12)
Then we got UEFA to respond opening the door that Res12 was trying to get open. That was a victory.
The new club stuff was an unsought bonus but as I’ve posted to you a number of times is not the aim of Res12.
The facts are that after some investigation after the AGM it was pretty conclusive that the correct process had not been followed and in August 2014 Celtic should have passed Res12. They didn’t and left it to shareholders.
If anyone blew Res12 sunshine it was Celtic and if I were you I’d stop airing your ill informed opinion as it does those you think you are supporting no favours.
As the saying goes “with friends like you, who needs enemies?”
Hot Smoked
You got it in one.
HH
Auldheid
Dont waste your time.
The bhoys have repeatedly told him whats what.
He is incapable of listening.
HH
THEGREENMAN. I assume bringing some one back from the dead you would see as the least likely miracle actualy happenning ? However every single day Doctors bring people back from the dead and they are mere men.So in my view Jesus would have had no difficulty bringing somone back from the dead.H.H.
“THE GREEN MAN SAYS SACK THE BOARD on 15TH JULY 2016 2:34
How can you find evidence of someone who never existed?”
I was going to respond the the above……no need to now!
JJ
JJ
There is a whole load of it. More, I am led to ‘believe’, than for the pretty much all of his historical contemporaries.
MOONBEAMSWD on 15TH JULY 2016 11:30 AM
Weeminger
When you worked as stage crew, I’m guessing cash in hand, did you sign off the brew to partake in that employment?
*hate to be pedantic but its “Broo”, Scottish slang for the Labour Bureau. My wee mammy used tae be a “broo wummin” as the clients called her.
As for zero hour contracts and minimum wage, that’s the norm over here in one of the world’s richest countries. Grocery stores, coffee shops, fast food restaurants are full of seniors working tae supplement their meagre government pensions much tae the consternation of students.
JFH
Everyday, men drive cars. Would Jesus have had no difficulty in doing that?
ANTIPODEAN RED on 15TH JULY 2016 3:04 PM
Timaloy29,
Which Celtic manager signed Craig Gordon?
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Neil Lennon agreed to bring him in to have a look at him. He trained and was considering signing him.
He left on the 22nd of May and Ronny Deila agreed to be the manager on the 6th of June.
Craig Gordon signed a full contract with Celtic on the 3rd of July and made his debut on the 19th of July.
So to recap: Neil Lennon agreed to have a look at Gordon over pre-season and they signed a nominal short-term deal.
Neil decided to leave and Ronny Deila became manager.
Ronny Deila was impressed with Gordon and agreed to sign him on a full contract.
Auldheid
God bless you and your patience with this one.
In the words of Homer Simpson: “this man has turned every cheek in his body”
Respect.
CULTSBHOY@2:46
In turn, I agree with most of what you have said – are we getting enough “bang for our buck”?
Certainly on the park, we are not. With a wage bill between £30/£40 million, there is no doubt we are falling short.
Are we getting value for money in the transfer market – again there must be question marks.
Any CEO who can provide a Scottish club with a wage bill of £30/£40 million, negotiate the best commercial deals in the country, finance a first-class training facilty, improve and update the stadium…and do all this with TV revenue of £2.8 million and without plunging the club into unmanageable and crippling debt, is due to be well rewarded.
There is, in my opinion, absolutely no correlation between Peter Lawwells salary and the challenges we face going forward in the crazy financial world that now dominates football.
MWD,
It confuses me that all the bad things that happen can be turned into God’s fault for letting them happen, I think people who use that argument are only interested in turning people away from their faith. When faced with similar arguments I like to remind people that if you believe in God you must also believe in the devil and that is where you should look and blame for the bad things that happen, God has given us the freedom of choice, if people choose to carry out the work of the devil how can God be blamed for that.
I sometimes get the answer that God created the devil, a simple reply is, what choice would there be if he did not ?
TBB
I will have a look sometime.
JJ
JFH
I wouldnt want to offend you.
You are one of the good guys on the blog.
Lets just say, for example….That the story of the loaves and fishes, is about sharing what you have with your neighbours….its symbolic, not literal.
Its an attempt to instil humanity….through a story.
Sorry.
HH
Cultsbhoy
“Scotland is now essentially a one horse race and we are toiling to win that it seems.”
Since Rangers died in 2012 we have won the league by:-
2012/13- 16 points
2013/14- 29 points
2014/15- 17 points
2015/16- 15 points
Where is this “it seems” coming from?
How many points do you expect to win a league by?
In any other language than the language of entitlement, these are comfortable margins no matter how much knicker wetting was undertaken through the matches getting there.
This data cannot be tortured to make it out that we fluked any league.
And we would not have been anymore dominant, probably the opposite, if we swapped our players, as you suggested, for many of the Aberdeen players who lost each league by a margin of 31, 31, 17 and 15 points respectively.
Canamalar,
You believe we have freedom of choice?
JJ
PS Adverts are on!
2. CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 15TH JULY 2016 1:48 PM
Tony…,
…You quickly forget how those boys in long trousers were shitting themselves only a couple of months ago and wanting us in our shorts to say nice things about them so they could sell the season tickets, which we of course obliged as its our club too more so as we do not impose on the club’s resources. However as I said earlier and you completely ignored, they no longer have any power over us since they abdicated all responsibility to protect the shareholders interests, nor do they command any respect or deference…..
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Canamalar. So, you stayed inside the tent pi**ing out, playing your part in the PR onslaught until the season tickets were sold. No difference to the deceitful cosy consensus with the PLC you, Auldheid and BRTH have engaged in with the PLC for the last three years, just in time to welcome back our ‘old firm’ partners.
Don’t say I didn’t warn you! (email 23 June 2013).
CULTSBHOY – LIKES BRENDAN RODGERS LEVEL OF AMBITION- WELL DONE DD on 15TH JULY 2016 3:07 PM
Timaloy29
You have outlined the theory.. I’m focussed on the practice…
Why did Lenny leave? Why did MoN not like PL?
Who presided too long over over the Ronny fiasco and repeatedly backed him?
On the other hand who didn’t appoint arguably our two box office managerial appointments of recent years?
The answer is the same. The club will not prosper with Lawwell piling the strings … However he most certainly has prospered…
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Like you, I don’t agree with several of the managerial appointments. Lawwell and DD have both failed in this regard. It is ultimately DD’s decision and always has been since O’Neill
I didn’t know that O’Neill disliked Lawwell and can’t tell you why
Neil Lennon left for a few reasons and I don’t blame him for that. Mainly, a job in England. He believed he would get a better paid position in the Premier League.
The Good Samaritan….The Prodigal Son….and so on.
Tales of morality.
HH
Astana
Got some TV time in Italy last season – Cinderella in the Champions League stuff.3 draws at home – Atletico Madrid /Benfica/Galatasaray.1 draw away- Galatasaray.2 defeats away- -Benfica /Atletico.
THE GREEN MAN SAYS SACK THE BOARD
What if these stories just exagerate a little because the people recounting them idealised the situation in their minds? Take for example the goal Morton Weighorst scored against dunfermline where he did a bit of keep uppy then volleyed it into the top corner. If you look at the you tube video of it someone has edited it to make it look like he shot from about 25 yards, but I was there and I swear he shot from Springfield Road.
Think about it ;)
GREENMAN. I understand where you are coming from in your explanation on the loaves and fish but remember there were 4 different authors saying it happened.In the Bible we are told we do not need to understand everything but you do need to believe everything.That in my mind is Faith and you either have it or you dont at the end of every mass the priest says go forth and share your faith with the world not go forth and keep your faith a secret.H.H.
Davidopoulous
These stories, as i said, are an attempt to instil humanity and compassion through myth.
Purely symbolic.
Its morality in a book.
And, nobody believed me, when i related my amazing 30 yrd overhead kick against the wee huns in Summerston:)
It was a belter:)
HH
“God has given us the freedom of choice”
Try telling that to the thousands of children who’ll die today (and tomorrow and the day after…) from preventable causes.Some freedom of choice they have/had.
SFTB
‘It seems’ probably the wrong phraseology.. ‘It feels’ may more accurately captures what I’m driving at.
Yes we have won comfortably – hence my assertion it is a one horse race.
However as you slide to knicker wetting I sense you share some of my frustrations.. We are making hard work out of it.
The defeat to Newco, the ridiculous defeat to imps… Some frankly tragic performances. A team of poor players.. These too are facts and not the imaginations of entitlement..
My PERSONAL view is that new ideas are required to inject new hope. I do not believe we are reaching for our potential. My firmly held belief is that the CEO position has much to do with our dimishing position and distance between fans and Board ambitions.
As for my player recommendations from Aberdeen – I stand by my Assessment of Rooney, McGinn and Hayes… Better by a distance than Several who played for Celtic last season. Despite the history, I’d throw Logan in to that mix.
As they say it’s all about opinions.
I’m happy for you if you are happy with the way the club is run and its performances in Europe and Cups.
I think we can both be happy with SPFL success and I’m sure we both hope for 10IAR. Not sure if either of us expect or feel entitled to it.
H H
CB
JFH
No worries bud…i understand where you are coming from.
HH
Is it possible that Jesus fed so many people with loaves and fishes because a lot of them were gluten intolerant and a lot were those fussy buggers that don’t like fish and all of them said “I’m alright Jesus, I ate before I came out”.
I’m going to hell
BrianjonestownmassacreCSC
Was thinking this morning of how Impressive young McCart was in pre season.
Very assured on the ball and positionally excellent.
Needs to add a little more muscle but once physically ready i think we have a gem.
O’Connell is slightly ahead of him at the moment.
That’s why i feel Toure is a good option as an experienced head on a short-term contract to get these young guys ready.
I also still feel Boyata has a chance.The defense was exposed by the crap protection from midfield last season.In a properly set up team he may come good.
Kill Ultra
Are you suggesting that if the Res12ers had said to the support at large “don’t buy STs it’s a trick to get around Res12” it would have had the desired effect? I don’t.
In fact promises were made on taking Res12 to UEFA and as that was the aim of Res12 there was no need to express reservations. Res12 did get to UEFA.
I appreciate that in not knowing what did take place folk will attach meanings that suit their pariticular belief but read back to my previous.
I wish now we had dropped the ball in 2014 although it’s been a revealing journey since.
DAVIDOPOULOUS
Dont start….you will get me crucified:)
I had a comeback gag there…but:)
Better not.
HH
THE GREEN MAN SAYS SACK THE BOARD
Aye, but where was the tale of morality in that overhead kick?
Against the wee huns, ok, got ya :)
Auldheid
Canamalar has suggested Celtic are not involved now and are not taking this further and it’s over to you guys.
Personally, I likely would not have renewed if the info was available.
You seem to be defending the indefensible on the part of the PLC. They are or they are not involved now. They did or they did not take it to UEFA? They acted in support of or against your efforts?
MWD