Since the beginning of (football) time, the only persistent complaint against officialdom is the lack of consistency. If the precedent is set, as when Alfredo Morelos grabbed the genitals of Ryan Christie last season and nothing was done about it, then Christie is encouraged to think that behaviour is acceptable (I disagree).
The rules have not changed since last season, when Morelos action was not judged an offence, but how the SFA Judicial Panel interprets the rule is completely different for Christie and Morelos. We have a clear case of officials condoning a behaviour of Morelos on Christie, only to impose a retrospective ban on Christie for the same misdemeanour.
The seeds of this issue were sown last season, when Morelos was ordered off an unprecedented five times. The Panel, faced with his incessant offending, succumbed to pressure, forgave one red card on appeal and declined to take action for the offence on Christie.
As though to compound the matter, the same Panel have failed to react to Morelos throat-slitting gesture towards Celtic fans. Like everything else in disciplinary matters, this looks like a precedent, which I doubt. Any other player acting like this will be severely punished. Neil Lennon would be banned from the game for life if he behaved like this.
The world game has always been plagued by inconsistencies in refereeing decisions, which are made on the spot and (in Scotland) without video review. There can be no legitimate reason for the SFA Judicial Panel to approve an action by Morelos on Christie and subsequently ban Christie for the same action.
That they are apparently happy to condone throat-slitting gestures in our game is unacceptable. This panel is not fit to administer discipline in our game and if the SFA think otherwise, the Association itself is not fit for purpose.
We cannot acquiesce to live in a Trump world, where shouty statements regurgitated by friends in the media are given any substance. It is no wonder we want out of Scottish football.
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Morning.
It isn’t Monday anymore! Still nothing for the wee Kent or the Moron.
HH!
Well, can our board at least pretend they give a f**k ?
BIG WAVY on 7TH JANUARY 2020 11:52 AM
Cosgrove is rotten.
A modern day Chris Killen.
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There’s always a risk of that.
But it’s clear that Griffiths and Bayo cannot stay fit enough to properly back up Edouard. On top of that, Bayo is completely unproven and Leigh has looked off the pace.
We need somebody else. Sporar or Campbell sound like they fit the bill. But if that fails we need somebody.
The best of the rest isn’t always the worst option.
FTSFA !
The question is why do we always complain but don’t follow through with any serious action? We put out weak PR statements that suggest we are a wee bit peeved off and once the noise dies down, it’s as you were.
Fergus was the only one who rattled their cages.
I am not keen on VAR in Scotland , it just means we will have 2/3 more people trying to cheat Celtic. Recent events have proven that it is in plain sight and that they really don’t care. They know , we know (we know , they know) but they will continue to do it anyway !
Timaloy29
We should de-risk it then. Scout wider and do our due diligence. Go back to France where the pool is tremendous and the quality higher.
Cosgrove would be an anathema to any fast and fluid footballing team and would serve more times suspended than Morelos should.
Off topic , but I found this interesting.
https://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/teen-ace-could-do-a-frimpong-at-hoops-insists-ex-boss/
i don’t think you can describe this as a lack of consistency. for the 60 years i have been watching scottish football the sfa have been consistently inconsistent in order to favour 1 club and to hinder another.
this is cheating pure and simple.
Paul – “It is no wonder we want out of Scottish football.”
We’re going nowhere. Nobody else wants us and in the meantime we should go for the throats of our cheating administrators.
http://celticbynumberscom.ipage.com/narrow-margins-loom-for-lennons-legacy/
The winter break affords the space for a mid term report. Starting with the gaffer, where are Celtic?
By any traditional football KPIs the team is in great shape. When Celtic are good they are great but when they are bad they are awful. Additionally, an “all in” opponent has a canny on field strategy.
Lennon’s margins are slight despite the stellar fundamentals.
I don’t post much, but a couple of points about recent events.
Firstly AJ’s nonsense. Alastair your club died with you at the helm get over it ….What has been seen, can’t be unseen.
A lot of noise and waffle about nothing, a big outcry about a 3 match ban that means absolutely squat since Christie wont be fit to serve the bans anyway. It sounds like most of you are surprised and shocked, well, welcome to my last nearly 60 years as a fan of Celtic, and it’s money grabbing weak a$$ boards, and SFA double standards. You think this is new?, No it was ever thus.
Probably very few of you seen Jinky’s legs or ankles, midweek after games, he was the bravest player in a celtic top i have ever witnessed, and make no mistake, I’ve seen a few, did the Kelly’s blast the SFA when this occurred week in week out ?, No it was ever thus.
Did Jinky or Davie Hay, or Bobby Murdoch, or Roy Aitken or Cesar and many others let that deid club walk all over them, ? No they rolled up their sleeves and said “fsck that!!” maybe that was the reason most of them on their day were unplayable. Today in general we lack that mentality and dig.
Those names may be distant memories now, however Scott Brown (who lots of you on here wanted gone last season) remember that ?. Well he is in that mould, but those of you who wanted him gone, will be too stupid to notice that, until he is no longer at Celtic.
I no longer give the Fat cat board on the club i love any money, if you have to ask me why, then you have missed the whole charade, nor do i feed the SFA, and their bent minions, who all share in their fortune, (ie: your dosh pays for their suits and fancy hotels), wake up and smell the coffee. Or just stop complaining.
By partaking in this circus you are encouraging it.
As always, feel free to give this advice the lack of thought you believe it deserves.
HH
Big Wavy – agree but we need a first-team ready striker now, and as Edouard will probably be sold in the summer, make that two.
Good chance Griff, Morgan and Bayo will be moved on and Sinclair is out too.
Front line of ? for next season?
THE BATTERED BUNNET on 7TH JANUARY 2020 9:15 AM
Auldheid
Bravo! The old line about infinite patience springs to mind, but the concern is you may yet discover the limit of infinity.
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To infinity and beyond.
Res12 Story. :)
There is more to come.
Consistently inconsistent
Dear oh dear. A defeat to the Newco, beaten fair and square btw, and we want to chuck Scottish football because the game is bent.
How about standing up for what is right and proper in a meaningful way rather than bending over. The SFA are not weak and shoddy, they are corrupt. What is weak and shoddy is Celtics response and ongoing acceptance of this.
Playing the victim card does not wash. Celtic plc have had enough chances to do something but looked the other way. The game is almost up.
Paul.
With all due respect, to compound the matter, we rejected Res12 .
The same club myth ? LNS ? The evidence from the Craig Whyte trial ? Let’s not forget the”secret” 5 way agreement that we seemingly didn’t know about .
There’s a pattern that’s developed, that while we stack up trophies on the park , we’ve been shafted off it .
Are you or anybody surprised at the inconsistency when we’ve been passive with so many other issues.
Personally I’m scunnered with the whole soap opera.
Deniabhoy
Agree that we need new forwards. Disagree that the answer is Sam Cosgrove. Go get a new frenchie with a point to prove and a platform to perform.
Tis the transfer season after all.
‘This panel is not fit to administer discipline in our game and if the SFA think otherwise, the Association itself is not fit for purpose’.
Maybe I’m interpreting this incorrectly, but there appears to be some equivocation when you say ‘if the SFA think otherwise, the Association itself is not fit for purpose’. To my mind, the Association has not been fit for purpose for quite some time.
As I wrote following Beaton’s performance at Ibrox:
Scottish football had a chance to clean house in 2012.
It chose not to do so.
You reap what you sow.
However, I’m with Bankiebhoy on this one and ask those who are foaming at the mouth what they want Celtic to do?
Paul as long as our cowardly over paid board that you are so loyaly to , continue to turn a blind eye nothing will ever change. We have moments like this once or twice a season and Celtic are always astonished , bewildered …insert the adjective , wonder when the next one will come along .
I’ve got no idea what Christie was thinking or why he did what he did, and I’ve got no complaints with regard to the punishment.
Baw-grabbing? Sorry, that’s not how we do things at Celtic. Sumdae have a word in the bhoy’s ear.
As for the SFA and its procedures, well I’m afraid this shabby episode – the absence of action against Morelols – will be the tip of the iceberg.
This season (and god-willing next season) should be historic, and with history comes hysteria. Dismaying decision making and its corollary – media wallpapering – is a central part of Operation Stop-the-Nine, and it is just ramping up.
What awaits should Operation Stop-the-Ten be implemented can only be guessed at.
“It is no wonder we want out of Scottish football.”
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Hahahahaha. What a belter!
We wouldn’t go anywhere without our big old firm rivals “Rangers”. (bizarre to have developed such an intense rivalry with an eight year old club who we have only been playing for four years and who have never won a competition we have been in. Hmmmmm…..).
There’s a whole continent to be conquered but we prefer to stay in our own backyard trading insults with the neighbours. They probably can’t believe their luck about the way we have handled this!
Big Wavy – I think we need both kind of players. One who is ready to come straight in and another who is a rough diamond. One is to help Edouard, the other is to replace him.
One fits our business model, the other doesn’t.
To secure 9iar we need to break the model.
If OE gets injured we are well and truly stuffed. We cannot rely on Griff, Morgan or Bayo or another young project to deliver 15-20 goals between now and May.
Makes sense to me to target someone who is proven in our backwater and who is doing the business now. Losing the league could cost us 30-40 million, we need more than a promising project.
Don’t care if it is Cosgrove or not, but has to be someone who is on form, match fit and ready to go straight into team.
I think in the minds of the huns this season is their chance to stop the 10. If we win the league this season we will romp it next, I’m convinced of that.
Long term, the huns are fecked. They’ll probably survive but right now having gambled on Gerrard, they’ve overspent and got a bit lucky.
He will leave within the next 2 years and they will have a significant rebuilding job again whilst still paying for Gerrards team which so far has won nothing.
HH
A wee bet on Scott Sinclair scoring on his PNE debut won’t go amiss
TBB. 12.52
If Ryan grabbed his baws , the Colombian would still be rolling around Celtic Park a fortnight later.
My own opinion , fwiw , is he grabbed his shorts .
Fitba shorts .
Was the grab advisable ? Naw .
Did the punishment fit the crime ? Naw .
31003 – certainty!
Angel G- ditto
Captain Christophe Berra says he is “hurt and angry” after being told he can leave Hearts and instructed to train with the reserves.
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Stendl won’t be there when the clocks go forward.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tino_Kadewere
Seems we have bid about £6m for this guy
BB – source?
SIEMPRE CELTIC (FORMERLY TRADITIONALIST88) on 7TH JANUARY 2020 1:01 PM
I think in the minds of the huns this season is their chance to stop the 10. If we win the league this season we will romp it next, I’m convinced of that.
Long term, the huns are fecked. They’ll probably survive but right now having gambled on Gerrard, they’ve overspent and got a bit lucky.
He will leave within the next 2 years and they will have a significant rebuilding job again whilst still paying for Gerrards team which so far has won nothing.
HH
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I agree. I think we’re at about winter 1944-45 here. Gerrard’s push is the Battle of the Bulge. A last desperate attempt to repel their advancing foes.
HistoryGeekCSC
HHjg
DB- in the rags online.
!!BADA BING!! on 7TH JANUARY 2020 1:20 PM
17 goals in 19 games is impressive enough.
He’s come on leaps and bounds under the tutelage of…… Paul Le Guen
DB- Timaloy- the French market has been brilliant for us,we will have a good rep over there,specially with the EPL interest in Dembele. Players and agents, can see a progression there.
BIG WAVY on 7TH JANUARY 2020 12:24 PM
We should de-risk it then. Scout wider and do our due diligence. Go back to France where the pool is tremendous and the quality higher.
Cosgrove would be an anathema to any fast and fluid footballing team and would serve more times suspended than Morelos should.
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That’s obviously the plan and Sporar would suggest we are casting the net wide. Like I said, he sounds like he fits the profile. Campbell too.
But if we fail to do a deal for them or Kadewere etc.
We need somebody. We can’t go into the second half of the season with Griff and Bayo.
Also, a bit harsh on Cosgrove. He’s been sent off twice in his whole career. He picked up 3 yellow cards in 30 games last season.
Re “penny pinching” over Scottish transfer targets. I can think of two recent acquisitions that we upped our original bid quite substantially, to eventually secure the players. Nadir Shift Key, and Scott Allan. Remind me how those two turned out?
Iftheyarealreadyplayinginscotlandtheyarenotgoodenoughtoimproveus CSC
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JG – Yes, TRFC has gambled big time on stopping 9iar, and they are in with a decent chance of doing it. At this moment, it would not be too big a surprise if they won the league and the SC.
It’s on a knife edge.
The desperation of a club fighting for its very survival should not be underestimated.