2012 was end of old ways, OF conspiracy theorists

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One of today’s newspapers did its very best to run with a one’s as bad as the other’ suggestion, saying : “Yes, both sides have justifiable grievances. Celtic were rightly outraged at the state their stadium was left in. Likewise, the Rangers board were understandably disgusted at those mock executions of blow-up dolls draped in red, white and blue scarves.”

This is wholly misrepresenting the situation. Celtic were rightly outraged at the blow-up dolls, criticised the actions at the time while endorsing the behaviour of the fabled “vast majority”. Celtic don’t have a problem with self-analysis; they’ve done it often enough in recent seasons in the face of Uefa fines.

The blow-up doll incident, and the faux defence of it, which Celtic didn’t offer, has nothing whatsoever to do with who pays for tens of thousands of pounds worth of vandalism carried out by visiting fans at Celtic Park. You can make your own suggestions as to why it was raised in connection with the subject.

The article goes on to offer up evidence of the bigger story, which it somehow manages to miss.

“Rangers (sic.) believe they have every right to take the hump because Celtic have chosen to ignore years of protocol – an unwritten rule which has stood the test of time, whereby each club pays for damage done to its own stadium by opposing fans on derby day.”

Maybe, maybe not, but here’s the thing, whatever unwritten rules Celtic and Rangers observed died in 2012.

You want unwritten rules to persist? Pay your taxes, register your players correctly, make full and honest submissions to HMRC inquiries instead of shredding correspondence. Play by the rules everyone else has to play by.

Cheat, lie, hide and shred and you have no defence in written rules, never mind unwritten objects of your imagination. This reality should now be writ large for all to understand.

After the 1909 Scottish Cup final between Celtic and Rangers ended suspiciously in a draw, one astute observer noted that the clubs were acting in concert, like an Old Firm, in order to generate gate receipts from a replay.

With the permission of Oldco’s administrators, Newco were able to change their name to “Rangers”, but that act of an administrator cut no ice at Celtic Park, or most other Scottish grounds.

There is no Old Firm, it died in 2012. Celtic don’t use the phrase, they don’t observe unwritten rules they had in place with Rangers, they don’t want their stadium trashed, they don’t want to install “prison grade” facilities for visiting fans (this is what’s now required in Scotland in 2017, good grief!), they would happily never host the club again.

If you think all that happened in 2012 was a “relegation” (which you’d earlier reported was impossible), this might be news to you. It was more than this; it was the end of the old ways – and good riddance to them.

Celtic will stand of fall on our own merits. We will observe the laws and rules of the land, the tax authorities, the Association, Uefa and Fifa (even if it means criticising our own fans). If you’re looking for unwritten favours after vandalising our property: tough.

And for those who continually see O.F. conspiracies, none of them have ever been able to tell me a business case for Celtic to put life into that concept. It’s not good for business, no matter what the wildest conspiracy theorist might tell you.  Anyone who tells you it is needs to take a look at himself.

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  1. Re Event Day parking restrictions.

     

     

    This looks like being applied to Hampden and Ibrox as well as Celtic Park/Emirates.

     

     

    What is “an event day”? If an expected crowd is 10,000/15,000 rather than 50,000 does that also apply?

  2. ‘GG

     

     

    I did see a pic of him somewhere on the Timternet today so I guess he’s on our radar, Brendan’s quest for improvement won’t stop at one player I reckon.

     

     

    The man has got a plan..

  3. BT- seems if you are visiting anyone inside the mile radius during a game , you will get charged a tenner…

  4. glendalystonsils on

    BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 16TH JANUARY 2017 5:11 PM

     

    Fabio Sturgeon is 1.83 m

     

     

    Fabio Sturgeon would bring a touch of the champagne and caviar lifestyle tae the auld east end.

     

     

    Nicola Sturgeon however…………….

  5. BRTH

     

    (Kev Jungle)

     

     

    That is the view I remember you stating more than once.

     

     

    Res12 ironically is a example of where the PLC works as in the presentation of a resolution to an AGM creates a route for shareholders to bring issues to the Board that have to be answered but can fall down in getting them addressed.

     

     

    Perhaps Res12 is unique in that the answer provided (it was unecessary) would not stand the test of time so could not be dismissed at the AGM at which it was presented.

     

     

    If I’m being kind I’d say that handling such a unique situation involved pioneering new territory for all parties and hopefully this year a number of lessons will have been learned from it. (The last Res12 re communications is a step in the right direction.)

     

     

    If so, whilst it does not remove your points about a PLC structure, it might make it more representative than it has been.

  6. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan on

    Parking!!

     

     

    Hmmmm

     

     

    In other parts of the city, Glasgow City Council have started marking the road into parking bays and are suggesting that property owners should acquire parking permits.

     

     

    So, I don’t just think it is at Celtic Park or other football grounds.

     

     

    Is this a way of simply generating additional revenue — much needed revenue — for local services?

     

     

    The Motorcar is a tax magnet.

     

     

    There is tax on the original price and the manufacturer and dealer pays tax on their profits.

     

     

    Once the owner has bought the car he/she has to tax it.

     

     

    He/she has to get it insured and again there is tax on that and the insurance company pays tax.

     

     

    Now the owner needs petrol which is taxed to the heavens and then when the car is driven into the city you need to pay to park it — another tax.

     

     

    Replacement parts, servicing, new tyres and every other bloody thing is taxed.

     

     

    Add another driver and that attracts tax.

     

     

    So ………….

     

     

    Bring back the days of a good pair of boots and a horse!!

  7. glendalystonsils on

    Emdy else finding the blog painfully slow to refresh today?

     

     

    And why is it highlighting in red instead of green?

  8. Just when you think the huns can’t sink any further, there is a photoshop doing the rounds, a guy pictured helping a homeless guy.The huns have stuck a badge and a hat on the helper, is if it was a benevolent hun doing a good deed, shameless doesn’t come close.

  9. i'vehadtochangemyname on

    lazy journalism p67 – lazy journo bassas making up shi*

     

     

    keep blogging to show them up

  10. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan on

    NIR BITTON MATCHWORN AND SIGNED CHAMPIONS LEAGUE SHIRT WITH CELTIC CHARITY FOUNDATION CREST

     

     

    THIS IS BEING AUCTIONED FOR CHARITY AS PART OF “THE 1967 CHALLENGE” MORE OF WHICH LATER.

     

     

    ONLY 99 TICKETS WILL BE SOLD AND EACH AT A PRICE OF £19:67

     

     

    This shirt was worn, and later signed, by Nir Bitton who wore the shirt in the champions league qualifier against Qarabag in Baku on Wednesday 5th August 2015.

     

     

    Because the game took place in Azerbaijan, Celtic could not field a team with shirts sponsored by Magners and so the Celtic Charity Foundation logo was placed on the front of the shirts especially for this match.

     

     

    Accordingly, this shirt signed by Nir Bitton, who played throughout the match, is unique amongst Celtic Memorabilia and is a fantastic collector’s item.

     

     

    The Shirt is in pristine condition and is signed on the back. It can be frame mounted showing the foundation logo on the front or the signed back of the shirt.

     

     

    The shirt is being sold by way of raffle tickets each of which costs £19.67 – that figure will not be lost on Celtic fans!

     

     

    Only 99 tickets are available and the raffle will run for fourteen days or until all tickets or sold – whichever is the sooner.

     

     

    The shirt will then be posted to the winning ticket holder and the result announced on CQN and via Twitter.

     

     

    All profits from the raffle of this shirt will be split between The Celtic Charity Foundation and the sponsorship of the VOA Academy in Liberia through Mary’s Meals who feed 265 children in the school.

     

     

    IF YOU ARE A COLLECTOR OF CELTIC MEMORABILIA DO NOT MISS THIS!

     

     

    FOR THE NEXT THREE DAYS THESE TICKETS WILL ONLY BE PUBLICISED VIA CQN. IF THEY ARE NOT ALL SOLD BY TUESDAY THEN THEY WILL BE MARKETED VIA TWITTER, FACEBOOK AND OTHER SITES.

     

     

    THE 1967 CHALLENGE AIMS TO RAISE AS MUCH MONEY THROUGHOUT 2017 AS POSSIBLE IN CELEBRATION OF THE FACT THAT 50 YEARS AGO CELTIC FOOTBALL CLUB AND THEIR FANS CHANGED EUROPEAN FOOTBALL FOREVER.

     

     

    THE LEGACY OF WHAT HAPPENED IN MAY 1967 CAN CLEARLY BE SEEN IN PORTUGAL, SCOTLAND, THE UK AND BEYOND, AND THE FORTHCOMING 1967 CHALLENGE WEBSITE WILL HIGHLIGHT THIS THROUGHOUT 2017 AND INTO 2018.

     

     

    HOWEVER, MOST OF ALL THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CHARITABLE GOALS TO BE ACHIEVED IN THE NAME OF CELTIC FANS INCLUDING THE INTENTION TO FEED AT LEAST 1967 STARVING CHILDREN THROUGH MARY’S MEALS IN THE NAME OF THE FANS OF CELTIC FOOTBALL CLUB.

     

     

    DETAILS OF THE RAFFLE TICKETS CAN BE FOUND HERE

     

     

    PLEASE SUPPORT – THIS IS YOUR LEGACY, OUR FATHERS AND MOTHERS LEGACY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY A LEGACY TO BE PASSED ON TO GENERATIONS TO COME AND THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BE A CELTIC FAN ……… YET!

     

     

    http://www.ebid.net/uk/for-sale/matchworn-signed-celtic-shirt-with-celtic-charity-foundation-logo-nir-bitton-153619704.htm

  11. CELTIC CHAMPS ELECT on 16TH JANUARY 2017 3:16 PM

     

     

    ‘Paul it’s so easy to wind up the usual clowns they are are biters to the core

     

     

     

    One is a clown One is a pot head and One is a dafty’

     

     

    ##

     

     

    I’m just trying to work out which one TinyTim is.

  12. GG –

     

     

    Not quite an ‘Ayebut’, but KevJ’s oft-repeated mantra that “Brendan Rodgers can’t be a good manager or he wouldn’t be at Celtic” takes some beating.

  13. GCC are not charging you to park at Celtic Home games, they are making it easier for residents to park at Celtic Home games. GCC first responsibility is to the thousands of residents not Celtic season ticket holders por cierto

  14. Por Cierto

     

     

    Eh? Sorry that’s nonsense. I live near a school. Often people park outside my house when they are picking up their kids. It’s a public road paid for and owned by us all, so they have every right to do this as long as they are not causing an obstruction.

     

     

    All this plan will do will be to move thousands of vehicles a few streets further away, or, potentially discourage people from coming to the games and spending money in the city.

     

     

    If public transport were adequate, that would mitigate things, but as it isn’t, this is a really bad idea for thousands of our fans.

  15. italiabhoy

     

     

    They create an obstruction for residents trying to park and emergency services as well. Parking at a school and dropping off is not the same as +40,000 people descending in one area por cierto.

  16. I often use public transport – 3 buses – to get to Celtic Park from the end of my street in Edinburgh, and it’s all free. Also allows me to enjoy a beer or two before and after the game. What’s not to like?

  17. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Hebcelt,

     

     

    I have already stated that I haven`t contributed a penny to Celtic since the 5 way agreement.

     

     

    Gone are the days when I would fly over for a game to see us get beaten by a financially doped hun and a corrupted association and league. That is simply foolish.

     

     

    We will find out after the 15th March whether Celtic are part of that corruption and whether they care about the money I and many others gave in good faith over many years to be left feeling duped or they only care about this financial year.

     

     

    agreed ?

     

     

    HH

  18. glendalystonsils on

    BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 16TH JANUARY 2017 5:48 PM

     

     

    CQN suffering a sympathy slump with Brendan’s serial slumpers??

  19. eurochamps67

     

     

    Like I said earlier a classic Glasgow scam aimed at Celtic supporters. Guaranteed that there will be a fine of £120 or so for failing to display a permit in an event day zone. Or in other words, somewhere around Celtic Park.

  20. AULD TAM on 16TH JANUARY 2017 6:32 PM

     

    Public transport to and from Celtic Park is perfectly adequate.

     

     

    Good man…

     

     

    From April 1 st 2016….free for the disabled and over 60,s….

     

     

    Champagne and caviar…???

     

     

    Braw

  21. ITALIABHOY on 16TH JANUARY 2017 5:54 PM

     

     

    How did Wilfried Karon, Ivory Coast no.5 play? Apparently we are interested in him.

  22. Oops 2006 …

     

     

    Labour is no more worthy of the working persons contributions…

     

     

    Murderer Blair

     

    And Brown…who gave Minty Murray his knighthood… And Darling …where do you start…

     

     

    Wee smiley political thing

     

     

    Braw.

     

     

    auld Tam…this has nothing to do with your good self

     

     

    Braw.

  23. Parking around CP on matchday works ok as it is,buses excepted, it’s a money making scheme, issue residents with a permit and put signs up in the relevant areas.

  24. Bhoyjoebelfast on

    BMCUW@158

     

    Thank-you for your kind words and concern.Im o.k. regarding my brick/ stone.Nevertheless it would be nice to scroll and read some of the many inscriptions pertaining to the Celtic family.

  25. It does not work ok for residents. It’s a scheme to enable residents in and around Celtic Park to access their places of residence on match days

  26. Por Cierto – issue permits and put up signs for tourists…..works in other parts of the city HH

  27. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

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    And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honali

     

    Little Jackie Paper loved that rascal Puff

     

    And brought him strings and sealing wax and other fancy stuff

     

     

    Oh, Puff the magic dragon lived by the sea

     

    And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honali

     

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    Together they would travel on a boat with billowed sail

     

    Jackie kept a lookout perched on Puff’s gigantic tail

     

    Noble kings and princes would bow whene’er they came

     

    Pirate ships would lower their flags when Puff roared out his name

     

     

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    And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honali

     

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    A dragon lives forever, but not so little boys

     

    Painted wings and giant’s rings make way for other toys

     

    One gray night it happened, Jackie Paper came no more

     

    And Puff, that mighty dragon, he ceased his fearless roar

     

     

    His head was bent in sorrow, green scales fell like rain

     

    Puff no longer went to play along the cherry lane

     

    Without his lifelong friend, Puff could not be brave

     

    So Puff, that mighty dragon, sadly slipped into his cave

     

     

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    And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honali

     

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