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Guy behind me yesterday
” that izzy is so predictable. . The inverness players know hes gonna cross the ball in every time ” ……
Zombie on snyde phone in
” congrats to inverness on great result at parkheed…
Second point. . Lee wallace is a better left back than stephen whittaker”
Eh… whittakers plays right back
NEIL LENNON can’t imagine players betting on games they are playing in — because the pressure would be INTOLERABLE.
Rangers midfielder Ian Black is facing an SFA charge over alleged betting on matches.
But Celtic boss Lennon says he’s never heard of a player who bet on his own team’s games.
He said: “Since I’ve been in the game, players have bet on football. But the one thing that you can’t do is bet on your own team.
“I think that’s the bottom line because it would open up a whole wasps’ nest in terms of accusations that can be thrown at you.
“It would be ‘What were you doing there? Why did you miss that?’
“I’ve never known a player to bet on his own team.
“I’m not saying that to take the moral high ground, I just think it’s an unwritten rule in the game.
“I’ve not been aware of anyone trying harder because they’re betting on a match they’re involved in.
“I’d never have done it myself. It would prey on your mind — before, during or after the game.
“I’m not aware of any players betting on a game involving a team I was at — though it may have happened and I don’t know about it.
“But if I found any of my players betting on us or betting against us, they’d be in a lot of trouble.
“I’d take a really dim view of it. I don’t understand players doing it. I’m not casting aspersions and nobody has been found guilty — but it’s a serious charge.”
However Lennon admits betting IS rife in the game — and has seen the evidence with his own eyes.
He said: “I’ve played with some players in my time who were heavy gamblers, whether it was football, horses or in casinos.
“The PFA come into all the clubs here and in England and try to make the players aware of their responsibilities.
“It’s like alcohol — it can be intoxicating and can ruin people’s lives.
“I’ve known heavy, heavy gamblers from my time in England.
“I’ve seen one player come in with a plastic bag full of cash after picking it up from the bookies.
“I sat next to him and looked at the bag in amazement. I’m not going to name him but a week later he’d lost the lot again.
“It’s never been an issue for me because I’ve never been a massive gambler.
“I enjoy a wee flutter — everyone has a punt on the football. But once it becomes an irregular thing, the bookies flag it up.
“I don’t think that players saying they don’t know is any defence. I think they do know.
“If you look at other sports, like snooker and cricket, things have been flagged up there as well.”
Lennon is now preparing his side for Wednesday’s Champions League qualifiers against Shakhtar Karagandy. He says even the loss of a goal at Celtic Park on Wednesday won’t affect his mindset.
He added: “My approach is that we need two goals in the 90 minutes.
“Karagandy are organised. I don’t think they’re the most subtle team you’ll come across but they play a way which we know, 5-4-1.
“We watched them against BATE in both games.
“To be honest they had a lot of luck against BATE and I felt they’d plenty of luck against us as well.
“People say you make your own luck, which is fine, but you have to analyse the game in the cold light of day and I thought we were the better team over there.
“They are physical, they worked very hard out of possession and they got the breaks at the right time.
“But there wasn’t a lot for me to really fear.
“If we were to go a goal down and we’ve got to score four, I think we’re capable of doing that.
“People use the Artmedia game as an example, where we were 5-0 down.
“We won 4-0 but it could’ve been five or six — and we weren’t half as bad the other night as we were in Bratislava.
“I thought we did more than enough to get something out of last week’s tie.
“We didn’t and have left it much, much harder than we should have done.
“But it’s not insurmountable. I think it’s retrievable.
“Being at home in a European tie seems to lift the players and they’re going to have to do that.
“We created plenty of chances. The only disappointing thing was the way we lost the first goal.
“We should have dealt with that a lot better.
“Sometimes you have to expect they’ll win a header but we didn’t react to the second ball and the guy has tapped in from about three yards out.
“Our reaction was good, though. Kris was very unlucky with his shot, we’d plenty of possession and plenty of chances.
“Even with their height, I thought we looked a threat at set-pieces. So it’s given me a lot to chew on.
“The players are angry with themselves, they are frustrated and I think that’s a good sign.
“We can’t wait for the game.”
Lennon says the prospect of a humiliating exit at the hands of the Kazakhs wouldn’t be any worse than losing to a bigger name.
He added: “No matter who we played, going out at this stage would be a head-wrecker.
“So I’m not going to be overcritical of Karagandy — they’ve beaten a very good team in Borisov.
“But I don’t want them to be celebrating as though it’s the greatest thing to ever happen to their country on Wednesday.
“I want us to prevail and we’ll be doing everything we can to make that happen.”
Goat a banging sair Heid !
Cowiebhoy
Lovely venue for a wedding but by the time night guests arrived, space very limited.
£3 a pint though!
When the Huns went bust, people forecast Armageddon. Celtic would have no opposition would win the League by a mile every year, interest and crowds would fall off. We said know other teams would rise to the challenge, we could have an exciting competitive League without the Huns.
Then a well organised team arrives at Celtic Park, gets a Celtic team that have 5 first team out injured and lose a 6th to injury early on, in a game which is sandwiched between 2 Champion League qualifiers. The organised team leave with a lucky draw and CQN goes into meltdown with indignation and negativity. Jesus wept.
Corky
So called celtic fan who works with me posted on fb yesterday that hes a sb holder who lives 5 mins from stadium but scottish football is so boring he is staying home to watch sky sports news and follow his fixed odds
Faithfull through and through eh
Of the 10 CL matches this week, Celtic are the shortest price of any team, 1/4, obviously Shakhtar are the longest price 15/1.
To qualify Celtic 11/10, Shakhtar 10/11, approx.
(Betfair)
Morning all. Glorious day down here. Summer is come again for the moment.
Has summer entered the soul of the Celtic support?
If we have indeed paid 3m for pukki. How much does that leave Neil to buy a goalscorer ?
sydneytim
You really are like a broken record
corkcelt
Bang on target.
HH
I firmly believe we will score at least twice on Wed. our progression or otherwise depends on keeping a clean sheet. If they score I believe they will progress as I don’t see us scoring 4. Accordingly we need to be patient, if we go out on a kamikaze blitz we could be picked off. We have 90 mins to score twice, one nil to the ‘tic would do me fine at half time.
Thomson had his usual shocker to complete his afternoon he and his officials made no allowances for time wasting despite speaking to ICT players ref time wasting allied with the fact he actually booked an ICT player for time wasting somehow didnt translate to giving any extra time for time wasting, Celtic really need to be having a serious word with Ogilvie as the silence on his embarrassing tenure is worth nothing if we are getting that standard of officiating
Ambrose and Matthews best players on the park yesterday, both making few mistakes defensively, both comfortable on the ball with Matthews showing our forwards how to score in the box, not impressed so far with Virgil as a defender which is his first and primary function clearly needs a good bit to go in terms of fitness with the injury having held him back in that department, baffling decision to play him in Kazakhstan, Forster had a terrific year in 2012 with his superb displays in the C/L group stages catapulting him to the fringes of the English national team, the neck injury in January this year interrupted his good run of form and IMO he hasn’t displayed that form in 2013, Brazil is a long way away for Fraser i hope the goalkeeping coaches can help him recover that form, Karagandy were not impressive in the first leg but as they and Inverness showed yesterday your first attack on the Celtic defence can bring an easy reward, our defensive frailties need to be addressed by our coaching staff we are making some basic mistakes
No cutting edge up front, we were lacking finesse and football intelligence, young Watt needs to get a regular game where he can start scoring again, his confidence in front of goal needs a boost, Balde is a long term project he has some big strengths which are obvious, he also has some weaknesses, learn to heading a ball down the way would be a start, stoppin us conceding so easily is the priority for now, finding a goalscorer is not a to distant second
corkcelt
09:27 on 25 August, 2013
Absolutely spot on ……. my only criticism of Celtic yesterday was that they didn’t push forward with pace / desire until later in the game …..need to up the pace and not allow teams to reorganise in defence so easily……other than that, great league without that lot
…. a number of Clubs are now appreciating the real possibilty of Domestic Cup suucess, and European football……. LONG MAY IT LAST…(ICT brought quite a good following with them yesterday)
Morning
OK so who took the MacKenzie challenge Yesterday?
As a result of events at Celtic Park you owe £20 to http://www.justgiving.com/Appeal4Mackenzieso …
So come on help Save MacKenzie!
lionroars67
09:44 on 25 August, 2013
VERY good point on the extra time allowed ………. one or two hunnish refs still needing to be weeded out…..!!
Robin bhoy. See you still have your eyes in the sand
Just stating obvious average of 5 goals a season in his career
We need a goal scorer
Eyes and ears and nose of course
£3 mil on a player they paid just £1.3 mil for and who has just one year left on his contract? Looking at his youtubes Pukki does look useful but his record isn’t exactly awe inspiring. Hopefully he’s more of a creative player and we’re still looking at a proven striker. Though £3 mill seems like too much for a secondary striker.
corkcelt
09:27 on
25 August, 2013
When the Huns went bust, people forecast Armageddon. Celtic would have no opposition would win the League by a mile every year, interest and crowds would fall off. We said know other teams would rise to the challenge, we could have an exciting competitive League without the Huns.
Then a well organised team arrives at Celtic Park, gets a Celtic team that have 5 first team out injured and lose a 6th to injury early on, in a game which is sandwiched between 2 Champion League qualifiers. The organised team leave with a lucky draw and CQN goes into meltdown with indignation and negativity. Jesus wept.
well said
£3mio for Pukki is a media made up figure, never believe the MSM.
sydneytim, my head is above the sand, yours on the other hand god knows where it is with some of your recent comments on here.
Morning from a sunny Northern Netherlands.
On reflection I saw very little yesterday that would indicate that we can break down a packed SK defence. Amido may well be a work in progress but for me the finished article is a long way off. No real threat from him and we don’t need a player to hold up play as most of our midfield do that quite successfully now with square balls or pass backs. Tony Watt didn’t do much either and 8 goals from 30+ appearances does not indicate he can be the prolific striker we need, and yes I know a fair percentage of those appearances were as a sub. With Stokes unlikely to start and Sammi doubtful we are looking somewhat limited upfront. If I were the SK coach watching yesterdays game I would be quietly confident i could nullify Celtic.
The crowd have a massive role to play on Wednesday, I think we can do it but it may be very difficult and an early goal is vitally important
Hello, good morning and how the devil are we all?
Going to have a substantial flutter on Celtic on Wednesday night, drink Guinness, sing my wee heart out and have Thursday as my day of rest.
Decisions-Decisions!
Elbhoy if we still had Gary hopper I would say ok. He might change and start scoring goals for the 1st time in his career
But we don’t have a goalscorer and we are signing a player who has not been a goalscorer Don’t really get it we are told money is tight. Why throw it away
Robin we don’t have a goal scorer or a holding midfield player ball winner
Maybe you don’t like facts but that is where our team is at the moment and performances on park back them up
Up to you if you don’t see that
Celtic Underground @celticrumours 5m
Hearing 4 players have agreed to sign only if we are in champions league. All 4 offered big bonus to play against shaktar. All four said no.
No matter who we buy some on here will still have a complaint.
Sutton? A Chelsea reject. £6m? What a waste of money
Larsson? A Feyenoord reject, we should have booted him out after that Charnley goal.
Moravcic? We could have bought a proven player like John Spencer.
Bangura? Now this guy knows the way to goals, KoK recommendation no less, must be good enough.
FFS
Buy a striker. We must buy a striker.
We bought a striker? He’s rubbish. We’re buying another striker? He’s rubbish too.
Whatever happened to giving a player a chance to settle? Moving clubs and moving countries isn’t always the easiest thing to do. Family to settle, getting used to new colleagues, now training methods, etc. Yet we seem to expect instant success – if we haven’t written the player off before he has even put pen to paper.
I don’t think we can judge any signing as a success or failure until he has played a run of games.
Ellbhoy – what did we pay for VW and GH? Works both ways.
I think we can judge a player by his record
Sutton was a goalscorer before he came
Henke scored 99 goals and player in a World Cup semi before he came to us
Lubo was not a striker
And doesn’t matter how settled pukki is. He is not a goalscorer
Well already we have folk moaning before the Finnish lad has even signed for us he is costing to much ? how do we know what he is costing ? second hes not an out and out goal scorer ? well you have to give the guy time to settle in he may find a few more goals in the SPL .I think there is nothing wrong with criticising the board or a player after we have seen him play for a reasonable amount of games However,moaning before the player has even arrived is absolutely out of order we are supposed to be Celtic supporters. H.H.
Joe. We need a goalscorer. Money is tight
We should use all our available money on a goalscorer
Oglach 9.53. Was reading through your well reasoned approach and you were winning me over to your point of view that there was very little cause for optimism. Then suddenly at the end you say “you think we can do it”.
I think there is a little bit of you in all of us, we can reason and analyse until we are green in the face (well I wasn’t going to say blue in the face) but at the end we just have a blind belief that we can do it and we will do it.
If Pukki signs give him time…his scoring record is in the German League not the SPFL.
The German league has some of the best defences in the world.
One Henrik Larsson did not have a scoring record that set the dutch tulips on fire and aye he was a disappointment wasn’t he.:-)
Kayal33. We cannot sign anybody to play against Shaktar.
I wish people would stop thinking they are cleaver stating the obvious that we need a striker and a creating midfield player, WE KNOWWWWWWW, so Ffs give the club a chance to get one, and here we go already this morning when a player is ment to be coming for a medical on Monday what are some rockets saying “awe why they buying him, he’s not a striker” I’m swear the amount of negativity in this place from the HUN implants is funny they really can’t hide the fact that they are Huns, oh and you know what if you complain about my post then your a HUN, step up and lift yer skirt, HAIL HAIL, and god bless the Glasgow Celtic.
sydneytim,
I see the same deficiencies that you do however I believe Lenny when he says he is trying to address them, a striker and midfielder to come in this week.
Chris Sutton scored one goal for Chelsea the season before he joined Celtic. Larsson and Sutton both scored in our first game that season at Tannadice.
The interviewer said to Chris that he’d equalled his goal tally for last season in one game. I thought he was going to hit him.
It’s not all black and white.
My gripe is we need to invest at least the money we got from hooper on a goalscorer. To spend 3m on a non goal scoring forward is the reason we don’t have a striker
SydneyTim. This guy has been playing in the Bundesleague which is miles better than the SPL how do you know before hes played a game that he wont be a prolific goal scorer for Celtic.Every transfer has an element of gambling in it some you win some you dont obviously John Park and Lennie see something in the player lets give him a chance remember Gareth Bale played full back for years before he moved up front and started scoring for fun lets welcome our new signings and wish them well a little positivity would help now and again. H.H.