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THETIMREAPER on 10TH APRIL 2017 11:45 AM
So very true, lol.
A STOR MHA CHROI on 9TH APRIL 2017 12:49 PM
DBHOY:
With your apathy as a barometer… Glasgow’s poor are beyond HOPE!!!!
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Pretty clear in it’s intent I’d say.
That said , things do get posted at times when frustration/anger have more control over our actions than they should. I’m no angel myself.
I fully accept your apology, no hard feelings here pal.
BTW I share your frustration re the general malaise towards the bigger issues eg looking after the more vulnerable in our society.
HH
MACJAY1 FOR NEIL LENNON on 10TH APRIL 2017 10:43 AM
Macjay, it ain’t thought police: it’s a dissenting voice at the views espoused by some. I would (generally) class you as an old Tory rather than a rabid right-winger (though some may disagree 😎 ). However, I do find some of your views on immigration perplexing; but I don’t want to deny you the right to air them.
However, what I was referencing were some of the more extreme. IMHO, viewpoints from a few on here who could very easily be classed as trolls.
I do, though, strongly disagree with your desire to deny the GB (and others) the right to verbalise their politics at Celtic Park: we have always been in the political arena as a club (reference the Chief Executive’s musings over the last 4 or 5 days) and will, again IMHO, continue to be so. The youth of today will cut their political teeth in arenas such as this as no doubt you and I did in our younger days. We should not deny that opportunity to them, even if we disagree with them at times.
In fact, I was vocally against the Palestinian protesters against Be’er Sheva on this board, but cannot deny that, even though flawed in it’s inception in my opinion. it was an extremely successful event!
The GB are largely a force for good in our support, but as truculent children often do, they will upset the older generation now and then. That was my job when I was younger and it’s their job now. Let them do it and let them learn from the process!
So as BMCUWP has said in the past, you might be an old Tory, but you are our old Tory! 😘
KTF
VFR800:
Macjay’s views on immigration are quite simply supporting the Australian system on immigration. I tend to agree with his views. Every queue jumper afforded residency does so at the expense of ‘authentic’ refugees.
Macjay is not anti-immigration.
Better look out next time the Clark brothers are in town :))
A former Rangers player and his pilot brother launched a foul-mouthed tirade of abuse at police officers after being told they were too drunk to board a train.
Dunfermline striker Nicky Clark, 25, and 28-year-old Gary Clark, both from Livingston, spent a night in the cells after refusing to leave the railway station.
At Glasgow Sheriff Court Sheriff Kenneth Hogg fined them each £540 and told them: “This was an act of total stupidity, exacerbated by alcohol. You have both let down each other.”
Sheriff Hogg added: Nicky Clark, as a professional footballer, you are a role model. People who travel on trains don’t want this type of behaviour.”
Both brothers admitted committing a breach of the peace by shouting and swearing and struggling with police officers at Queen Street railway station, Glasgow, on November 12, 2015.
The court was shown CCTV footage of the incident. Other passengers could be seen coming and going as the brothers shouted and swore and struggled with the police.
The brothers father Rangers and Hearts striker Sandy Clark was in court to support his sons.
The brothers had been out celebrating a promotion for Gary Clark, who is a pilot in the Royal Navy, and intended to get a train back to their parents’ home in Livingston.
Depute fiscal Wendy Wilson said: “At 11.05pm police officers became aware of both accused walking past them and both appeared to be intoxicated.
“Nicky Clark said: “Youse look like a bunch of boring bastards.”
The court heard that the brothers were told to leave the station and headed towards the Dundas Street exit, but Nicky Clark, who has played for Rangers, Queen of the South, English side Bury and now Dunfermline, returned and shouted: “Youse f*ing sure you’re okay.”
Both brothers were again warned they should leave the station and Nicky Clark was taken aside to be spoken to.
At this point Gary Clark began shouting: “I fing fought for this country. I fought for you bastards in Afghanistan. I’m not going anywhere without my fing brother.
Nicky Clark pushed the police officers in a bid to get to his brother and when told he would not be allowed on a train shouted: “You’ll f*ing regret this.”
At this point both brothers were told they were under arrest and began to struggle with the officers and Nicky Clark told them: “You’ll regret this, you’ve broken my £13,000 watch.”
Miss Wilson said: “The catch on the watch had come undone, but the watch was not broken.”
Solicitor Billy Lavelle, representing Nicky Clark, said: “They had had a great night out. The two brothers hadn’t seen each other for some time, Gary Clark had been promoted and they were celebrating. They saw police officers standing in the station and Nicky Clark shouted out: ‘Alright troops, how’s it going.’
“It started out as an attempt at banter and quickly escalated into stupid behaviour. Gary Clark has never been in trouble before. He is a professional footballer with Dunfermline Athletic. This will have been a salutary experience.”
QC Gordon Jackson, representing Gary Clark, said: “This was a situation which quickly got out of hand. The brothers thought it was a bit of banter and the police were a bit heavy-handed. My client is a lieutenant in the Royal Navy and an advanced fast jet flying instructor.
“Most people get arrested because they won’t take a telling. This is a blip in an exemplary career. This is out of character. Drink was involved.
“He has no recollection of some of the things attributed to him. He’s never been in Afghanistan.”
The brothers were given 28 days to pay the fine.
Taurangbhoy
An explanation of why you believe my post is crass would be appreciated?
MWD
Crass
showing no intelligence or sensitivity.
Interesting.
MWD
MWD, well said
Hail Hail
A STOR MHA CHROI on 10TH APRIL 2017 12:13 PM
It’s a complex issue and one that resonates with many of the Irish diaspora who support our great Club.
The difficulty is that immigration policies are often heavy-handed and don’t necessarily support all of those in genuine need; sure, they are abused at times but the crack-downs often prevent some of the genuine cases getting the help needed.
KTF
Taurangabhoy
At which level is defending Celtic supporters or the PLC were it is warranted Crass?
At what point is calling someone out directly rather than generalising them by the use of boorish phrases and words crass?
MWD
Hello this is WEE BGFC. Favourite Uncle. We’re driving by York on the way to Dover. We’re waving to you:D
HH
WEE BGFC
That should read
At what point is defending Celtic supporters against other Celtic supporters or the PLC were it is warranted crass?
MWD
VFR800:
I appreciate that, not just the Irish aspect but the Scottish and humanitarian aspect too. I, like the vast majority of Celtic Supporters, want a world without fear, hunger, homelessness, but Macjay’s country is a democracy with a government of the people. That government has its rules. Macjay doesn’t write the rules but I know he has a deep appreciation of the cost of the rules – when followed, and when not followed. And each and every way there will be tears.
Australia does it bit, all things considered.
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