Celtic v the Dutch and innovative philosophies


The 4-0 defeat we received at the hands of Utrecht aside, Celtic’s form on Dutch soil has been decent.  Ajax recorded a narrow 1-0 win in the Champions League in 2013.  When the teams met in the following year’s Europa League, the home side scored late to secure a draw against 10-man Celtic.

Our two visits prior to that were historically famous wins.  Goals from Bobby Petta, Didier Agathe and Chris Sutton saw Celtic win 1-3; enough for them to reach the Champions League group stage for the first time in the club’s history.

A late goal from George McCluskey after a Charlie Nicholas opener saw Celtic win 1-2 and progress in the 1982-83 European Cup.  This game is historically famous because we had so few significant European wins in the 80s and 90s – if you lived through these times, you will still cherish that game.

Johan Cruyff was subbed late in that 1982 game, still masterful, if a few years past his prime.  He was in his full pomp when he led Ajax to a 3-0 quarterfinal victory on their way to winning their first European Cup in 1971.  That game came 10 months after Feyenoord became the first Dutch team to win the trophy, beating Celtic in the final.

Dutch football arrived with a bang in 1969.  Ajax lost the European Cup Final that year to Milan, the last time the trophy did not go to the Netherlands until 1974.  Just four years before that Ajax-Milan final, Celtic met Dutch opponents for the first time in competitive football.  Go Ahead Deventer lost 0-6 to Celtic in their Cup Winners’ Cup first leg.

The other two Dutch teams in European football also exited Europe in the first round, Utrecht losing 7-1 to Barcelona and Feyenoord losing 5-0 to Real Madrid.  This came two years after Luxembourg eliminated Netherlands from the European Championships.  Dutch football was a shambles in the mid-60s, but with an innovative philosophy, it ruled Europe within five years.  Everything we are seeing right now at Celtic is the result of an innovative philosophy, great things can be achieved by great coaches.

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  1. TURKEYBHOY on 25TH AUGUST 2021 12:15 PM


    I think this Covid Huns story was spread by PL,to take the focus away from the time it’s taking him to sign the Greek striker.





    There ye are.

  2. “but with an innovative philosophy*, it ruled Europe within five years.”



    *and amphetamines…

  3. Shoorly a Stewards inquiry into CHARLIEBHOYS post .He has written,Zilch,Nada,Nuttin,Zero,Hee Haw.




    Pyoor ragin CFC.

  4. A wee update on the Westwood Sevco bus,who were caught out at the weekend, seems they are only barred from receiving tickets for away games, but still welcome at Ibrox……I’m sure the Laptop Loyal will be all over this…

  5. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Celtic deploying an innovative philosophy?



    Check. I’ll buy that.



    In an environment (Scottish football) which is outmoded, outdated, anachronistic, led by incompetents, not outcome driven, petty, parochial, arrogant (!), spiteful, resentful of success of others, and filled with self-serving vested interests.




  6. BADA BING!! on 25TH AUGUST 2021 12:20 PM


    Seems Barasic is refusing to play, Roma have offered £5 million, Sevco want £8 million.




    Seems to be the price at the moment.

  7. Tom McLaughlin on

    I can understand people getting vocal about Rangers and a Covid outbreak, given their history or lack of it in this regard, but why are some posters concerning themselves with when they fly out, how long the flight takes, what time they land UK time, what time they land Armenia time, what time they’ll check into their hotel and how little time they’ll have to train on the pitch.



    Seriously, what’s that all about?

  8. PeterLatchfordsBelly on

    Which makes Lawwell’s attachment to Lennon all the more baffling. Great motivator? Maybe for a wee while. Great coach? Never.

  9. Signing our new Croatian had me thinking about Benkovic.



    Astonished to see he has only played 12 games in 3 seasons.



    I thought he was pretty decent on loan, but he has gone nowhere since, similar to wee paddy.

  10. Tom McLaughlin



    If you are interested, Glasgow Airport website is advising that anyone catching that flight to Yerevan should go to the Gate…




  11. I am tracking their flight on one of those flight tracker things.



    it has to fly over hamburg, berlin, odessa and crimea and cross over the black sea.



    armenia is far far away,

  12. McCrorie

































    For the next two games, hopefully without any further positive tests.



    Apart from McCrorie in goal, its probably not far away from what is our in form team anyway.



    Things drop dramatically in terms of strength on the bench right enough.



    Might be true.N o Mc Gregor,no Kent.

  13. the flight for Barra has just taken off and the flight tracker has it scooting down the runway and turning right just above linwood, and i could see the event live out the window of the at the same time.



    isnt modern technology amazing.





    Agree – would only add that we all hope a new philosophy delivers success – it’s no given….and Ibrox’s ‘self-serving’ influence in Scottish football is making a comeback.

  15. St Stivs,



    Any time I saw Benkovitch out on loan,he was rank rotten.We dodged one there.

  16. Saint Stivs on 25th August 2021 12:39 pm



    I am tracking their flight on one of those flight tracker things.




    it has to fly over hamburg, berlin, odessa and crimea and cross over the black sea.



    armenia is far far away,






    This is a code, right?



    Hamburg -> HSV -> Huns



    Berlin -> Seat of power of the Third Reich -> Baddies



    Odessa -> Odessa Files -> Again, Nazis/Baddies (thought you could have done something more original here)



    Crimea -> Charge of the Light [Blue] Brigade -> threadbare first team after COVID strike



    Crossing the Black Sea -> clearly a reference to Hades because Rangers are deid…



    What’s the prize?

  17. I aint going to get a job with any of the spying organisations, the plane i thought was going to barra, is a private flight , the barra one is still on the ground



    isnt technology marvellous.

  18. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    “Everything we are seeing right now at Celtic is the result of an innovative philosophy, great things can be achieved by great coaches.”




    Not exactly rocket science.


    Just a pity we wasted two years with an -ahem – “different approach”.


    Be good to see some analysis on the reasons for that approach and the people involved in the decision making.

  19. St Stivs,


    When it’s flying over the Black Sea,if you look really really hard to the right,you might be able to see ma house.


    I will put a big giant arra on the Beach pointing to it.


    How’s that.

  20. I liked Benkovic, but he never struck me as the hardest of CBs,quite keen to lie down at the slightest knock

  21. glendalystonsils on

    SAINT STIVS on 25TH AUGUST 2021 12:39



    armenia is far far away,




    I just it was a tiny wee country !



    FrDougal CSC

  22. St Stivs,



    You should have been able to tell from the size.The private plane ,probably just a Wee Barra.

  23. Allan McGregor and Jon McLaughlin as well as skipper James Tavernier and winger Ryan Kent.Gerrard and Beale,according to SMSM

  24. Giannis Choreanoupolis,yes him,Greek Media,has said ,deal struck with Venlo,now only players terms to be concluded.

  25. Cancel the above…



    Steven Gerrard will MISS Rangers’ trip to Armenia for the second leg of their Europa League play-off against Alashkert with his squad also decimated by Covid.



    Gerrard failed to show at Glasgow Airport for the Light Blues lunchtime flight to Western Asia for their crunch clash.



    Skipper James Tavernier, Calvin Bassey, Scott Wright and Ryan Kent were also absent along with first and second choice goalkeepers Allan McGregor and Jon McLaughlin in what is a massive blow in a huge week.



    Coach Michael Beale was also nowhere to be seen with Rangers assistant manager Gary McAllister set to take the team.

  26. Tom McLaughlin on

    Missing from Rangers trip: