Celtic v the Dutch and innovative philosophies

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The 4-0 defeat we received at the hands of Utrecht aside, Celtic’s form on Dutch soil has been decent.  Ajax recorded a narrow 1-0 win in the Champions League in 2013.  When the teams met in the following year’s Europa League, the home side scored late to secure a draw against 10-man Celtic.

Our two visits prior to that were historically famous wins.  Goals from Bobby Petta, Didier Agathe and Chris Sutton saw Celtic win 1-3; enough for them to reach the Champions League group stage for the first time in the club’s history.

A late goal from George McCluskey after a Charlie Nicholas opener saw Celtic win 1-2 and progress in the 1982-83 European Cup.  This game is historically famous because we had so few significant European wins in the 80s and 90s – if you lived through these times, you will still cherish that game.

Johan Cruyff was subbed late in that 1982 game, still masterful, if a few years past his prime.  He was in his full pomp when he led Ajax to a 3-0 quarterfinal victory on their way to winning their first European Cup in 1971.  That game came 10 months after Feyenoord became the first Dutch team to win the trophy, beating Celtic in the final.

Dutch football arrived with a bang in 1969.  Ajax lost the European Cup Final that year to Milan, the last time the trophy did not go to the Netherlands until 1974.  Just four years before that Ajax-Milan final, Celtic met Dutch opponents for the first time in competitive football.  Go Ahead Deventer lost 0-6 to Celtic in their Cup Winners’ Cup first leg.

The other two Dutch teams in European football also exited Europe in the first round, Utrecht losing 7-1 to Barcelona and Feyenoord losing 5-0 to Real Madrid.  This came two years after Luxembourg eliminated Netherlands from the European Championships.  Dutch football was a shambles in the mid-60s, but with an innovative philosophy, it ruled Europe within five years.  Everything we are seeing right now at Celtic is the result of an innovative philosophy, great things can be achieved by great coaches.

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  1. TERRYMAC on 25TH AUGUST 2021 5:42 PM

     

     

    Snake Plissken at 3.51

     

     

     

    ‘We do not want Covid back at Celtic Park in any shape or form.’

     

     

     

     

    I went to the Thursday and Saturday games and thoroughly enjoyed them but the reality of waking up on Sunday morning with the dreaded symptoms kind of spoiled it a bit!

     

     

     

    Believe me, Covid is still rampant at Celtic Park and elsewhere!

     

     

     

    Stay safe everyone!

     

     

     

    Hail! Hail!

     

     

     

    Terrymac

     

     

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    I was texted an hour ago by NHS that I have tested positive for COVID. I had a PCR test yesterday. I have attended the last 4 home games. I haven’t been feeling great since Monday morning with runny nose, raised temperature, headaches and cough. I am feeling much improved this morning. I would say that I have had a few heavy colds over the years which have caused me more distress. I don’t know if it will get worse but I am very, very grateful for having received my two vaccinations.

     

     

    Take care everybody and get yourselves vaccinated.

  2. TOSB – take care mate. There’s word (downunder) of false recoveries with this bug, and quite severe relapses.

     

    Hopefully our game tonite will speed your recovery. HH

  3. THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY on 26TH AUGUST 2021 9:32 AM

     

     

    Sorry to hear that. If I may ask, when did you receive your 2nd Jab? por cierto

  4. The Blogger Formerly Known As GM on

    O’Brien up early this morning. Someone said something critical about The Party.

     

     

    A nervous evening awaits. AZ are a good team and are likely to go for it from the start. They have nothing to lose. Don’t care about the score as long as Celtic go through, but a draw would be a good result.

  5. AZ, though better than us in keeping the ball, didn’t defend very well in the 1st game. We can score if we are courageous enough when we have the ball, that will decide if we sink or swim, por cierto

  6. Quadrophenian

     

     

    Thank you. Yes I think it’s wise to ‘proceed with care’. Strangely enough, the runny nose has been fairly constant but the headache, temperature and cough have come and gone and then come back again. Thanks for the heads up about the false recovery. I’ll be on my guard.

     

     

    Poor Cierto

     

     

    2nd vaccination was on 2 May.

  7. LYNOTT67 on 26TH AUGUST 2021 7:50 AM

     

    David66

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Huns opponents are a poor team , watched second half last week .

     

     

     

     

    Outplayed by 10 man sevco.

     

     

     

     

    Live in hope , all the same

     

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    Absolutely

     

     

    D :)

  8. THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY on 26TH AUGUST 2021 9:56 AM

     

    Quadrophenian

     

     

    “Por Cierto

     

    2nd vaccination was on 2 May.”

     

     

    Thank you.

     

    Which one did you receive? Moderna, Pfizer A.N.Other?

     

     

    por cierto

  9. On the day of a key game in our season……

     

    The union fleg wavers are out early doors….

     

     

    Canny wait fur septembre 18….

  10. The Hun opponents did seem very poor at Mordor,but in the 1st half,although under pressure,they held firm.Passed the ball about well in defence.I think they will be delighted with the result.I think they were thinking that with the Huns down to 10 men,they could have got the draw.They did not get to the play offs by accident.Lets wait and see.

  11. JHB on 26TH AUGUST 2021 8:03 AM

     

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    Aye right….If you say so.

     

    I expect to see you in Glasgow on September 18th on your way to Glasgow Green waving your Butchers Apron in the air…While Pissing on some ones doorstep.

     

    CHUMP !

  12. Delaneys Dunky on

    Celtic Mac

     

    And all probably hoping that the Union flag waving club go through tonight.

  13. PC SALFORD,

     

     

    My point was,that I don’t think any professional footballer would take the chance with Covid.Especially with Long Covid now a concern.Really can’t see them going anywhere near a positive.We all thought the rules were crazy back when RC had to isolate for 10 days,although testing negative.Thats why the rules were changed.

     

    No idea what Lundstrom was on about,unless it was Morelos having to isolate .I just don’t see any team taking a chance.Covid could rip through the whole squad.Every club has a “Duty of care” .If it was found out they were keeping cases quiet,legally,a very big problem for them.

  14. Weebobbycollins on

    FrankTerry @ 9.11…👍 Glad you enjoyed it. I know I’m biased but I also thought it was great. It was shortlisted for an Oscar though not nominated. Perhaps that was a good thing as I don’t have a suit. 😊

  15. Well,I just received my 4th Vaccine this morning.Delighted.If the UK would take Turkey off their Red List,we could fly back now.Needed the 2 Pfizer for the UK.

  16. I have an inherent distrust of anything sevco.

     

    My immediate thought, on hearing the covid story, was ‘how do they slither their way out of this?’

     

    Like others, I expect to face their first 11 on Sunday. We can discuss this more tomorrow.

     

    As for tonight? I am quietly hopeful we’ll proceed. We appear to be way ahead of schedule on the rebuild. I would hope no one believes we have anything like our target back 4 in place.

     

    Back the manager

  17. Interesting that two posters have suggested that they may have contracted Covid from having attended games.

     

     

    If that’s anywhere near a representative sample then questions must be asked.

  18. Personally I think Celtic Football Club should tell the S F A,that owing to some players and officials over at Ibrox who have to self isolate that the interest of our officials and players we will not take part on playing Rangers at Ibrox on Sunday

  19. delaneys dunky

     

     

    Aint no doubt about it…

     

     

    nb Hope Brexit hasn’t led to a shortage of mushroom pickers….

  20. TIMBHOY163 on 26TH AUGUST 2021 10:43 AM

     

    Personally I think Celtic Football Club should tell the S F A,that owing to some players and officials over at Ibrox who have to self isolate that the interest of our officials and players we will not take part on playing Rangers at Ibrox on Sunday

     

     

    Really !!!!!!!!On what grounds would we not take part?

  21. big jimmy

     

     

    From yesterday.

     

    Wasn’t so much correcting your spelling, but more quoting from the movie in question.

     

     

    KurtRussellCSC

  22. TOSB

     

     

    My son had Covid last month. He was in bed for a week with what he described as the worst flu ever.

     

    Hopefully your symptoms won’t get any worse.

     

     

    Can I ask if you were masked up entering and leaving the stadium? I was, and was alarmed at how few were.

     

     

    Given the surge in numbers its maybe a blessing that there will be no Tims there on Sunday!

  23. THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY on 26TH AUGUST 2021 10:45 AM

     

    POR CIERTO on 26TH

     

    Pfizer.

     

     

    Once again thanks.

     

     

    I did an antibody test and the result, done on 8th August, showed that I still had the antibodies from my Pfizer jag, 2nd Jag was received on 24/4/21.

     

     

    Just goes to show that we still have to be very careful. About the games, I sit in the main stand ES2 and very few, and I mean very few people are wearing masks. There has never been anyone asking people to put one on when entering the stadium or whilst sitting, not good, not good at all. Makes me wonder if I should be attending. por cierto

  24. ERNIE LYNCH on 26TH AUGUST 2021 10:41 AM

     

    Interesting that two posters have suggested that they may have contracted Covid from having attended games.

     

     

     

    If that’s anywhere near a representative sample then questions must be asked.

     

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    I’ve worn a mask and sanitised my hands at all 4 games which I attended but, sad to say at most of these games, very few of the people in the rows in front of or behind me were wearing masks. Strangely enough, Saturday’s game was an exception to this. I noted that most of the people around me had a mask.

     

     

    Travelling on the train may also have been a factor.

  25. Weebobbycollins on

    Turkeybhoy…originally it was going to be a political film about water theft by companies such as Nestle, however, as she researched more and more she had a change of heart and finally, after meeting and chatting to the director Victor Kossakovsky, they took a different approach and direction. He is described as the Picasso of documentary film making…it was a long drawn-out slog with lots of travel but worth it in the end. I hope you enjoy it…

  26. POR CIERTO on 26TH AUGUST 2021 10:53 AM

     

    THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY on 26TH AUGUST 2021 10:45 AM

     

     

    POR CIERTO on 26TH

     

     

    Pfizer.

     

     

     

    Once again thanks.

     

     

     

    I did an antibody test and the result, done on 8th August, showed that I still had the antibodies from my Pfizer jag, 2nd Jag was received on 24/4/21.

     

     

     

    Just goes to show that we still have to be very careful. About the games, I sit in the main stand ES2 and very few, and I mean very few people are wearing masks. There has never been anyone asking people to put one on when entering the stadium or whilst sitting, not good, not good at all. Makes me wonder if I should be attending. por cierto

     

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    See my reply to Ernie. I agree the club should be doing more to enforce/encourage wearing masks and using the dispensers.

  27. TIMBHOY163 on 26TH AUGUST 2021 10:43 AM

     

    Personally I think Celtic Football Club should tell the S F A,that owing to some players and officials over at Ibrox who have to self isolate that the interest of our officials and players we will not take part on playing Rangers at Ibrox on Sunday

     

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    Timbhoy163 – Aye right.

     

     

    Authorities would love that.

     

     

    D :)

  28. We have a guy on here,and possibly a couple of others,who have not been vaccinated,and have no intentions to.The guy I am referring to is BAMBOO.Could be sitting next to you at CP.Its Tinfoil Heads like this that are dangerous.Stupid reasons “We don’t know what’s in it”.I have no idea what is in,or how it will affect me,any prescribed Medicine.The side effects possible from simple Paracetamol,would frighten you.

     

    Not as much,I hope,than being in an induced Coma,and being stuck with a Ventilator down your throat for months.

  29. WEEBOBBYCOLLINS on 26TH AUGUST 2021 10:57 AM,

     

     

     

    Many thanks.Me and Mrs TB will watch it tonight.

  30. Sevco are the only Klub in Scotland, who do not submit testing via the SFA,and use a lab in Belfast, why was this allowed to happen?

  31. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Is Halliday thick?

     

     

    Are the SMSM?

     

     

    What has being fully vaccinated got to do with anything in this story?

     

     

    Vaccine protects the person vaccinated from the worst of the symptoms.

     

     

    If you then contract Covid-19 you’re still contagious and the disease is still transmissible to others (some of whom may NOT be vaccinated).