Celtic v the Dutch and innovative philosophies


The 4-0 defeat we received at the hands of Utrecht aside, Celtic’s form on Dutch soil has been decent.  Ajax recorded a narrow 1-0 win in the Champions League in 2013.  When the teams met in the following year’s Europa League, the home side scored late to secure a draw against 10-man Celtic.

Our two visits prior to that were historically famous wins.  Goals from Bobby Petta, Didier Agathe and Chris Sutton saw Celtic win 1-3; enough for them to reach the Champions League group stage for the first time in the club’s history.

A late goal from George McCluskey after a Charlie Nicholas opener saw Celtic win 1-2 and progress in the 1982-83 European Cup.  This game is historically famous because we had so few significant European wins in the 80s and 90s – if you lived through these times, you will still cherish that game.

Johan Cruyff was subbed late in that 1982 game, still masterful, if a few years past his prime.  He was in his full pomp when he led Ajax to a 3-0 quarterfinal victory on their way to winning their first European Cup in 1971.  That game came 10 months after Feyenoord became the first Dutch team to win the trophy, beating Celtic in the final.

Dutch football arrived with a bang in 1969.  Ajax lost the European Cup Final that year to Milan, the last time the trophy did not go to the Netherlands until 1974.  Just four years before that Ajax-Milan final, Celtic met Dutch opponents for the first time in competitive football.  Go Ahead Deventer lost 0-6 to Celtic in their Cup Winners’ Cup first leg.

The other two Dutch teams in European football also exited Europe in the first round, Utrecht losing 7-1 to Barcelona and Feyenoord losing 5-0 to Real Madrid.  This came two years after Luxembourg eliminated Netherlands from the European Championships.  Dutch football was a shambles in the mid-60s, but with an innovative philosophy, it ruled Europe within five years.  Everything we are seeing right now at Celtic is the result of an innovative philosophy, great things can be achieved by great coaches.

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  1. Game vs TFOD2.1 on Sunday.



    You would have thought SKY would want the game to go ahead — fans or no fans.


    On fans — then their viewing audience would be that bit / 50K larger.



    Interesting if SKY are now fully onboard the TFOD2.1 bus.


    Must be the local / national sports management are knuckle crunchers / staunch hyper unionists.

  2. squire danaher on

    MADMITCH on 25TH AUGUST 2021 4:22 PM



    Interesting if SKY are now fully onboard the TFOD2.1 bus.





    Are you seriously suggesting they haven’t been?



    Morelos translation nonsense??

  3. SD @ 4.24



    I am taking the long view.



    SKY have always had a shine for our friends in Govan.


    Now it seems to be a very moist love affair.



    When did Old Monkey Glands flog them?

  4. “ Celtic Football Club confirmed today that Christopher Jullien has tested positive for Covid-19 and is self-isolating at home. We wish Christopher a speedy recovery.



    While all of the other members of the squad and backroom team have tested negative, we have been informed by the authorities that, having been deemed ‘close contacts’, Celtic manager Neil Lennon, assistant John Kennedy and 13 first-team players will be required to self-isolate on a precautionary basis as required by the current regulations”




    This is the statement we put out after Dubai. So there’s definitely a lack of transparency re the outbreak at Sevco. They’ve confirmed nothing really except they’ve had positive cases.



    It could well be that we’ll see missing players return for Sunday.



    That said, I’m sure Ange will care little about the team he’ll be facing, he’ll have us 100% focused on our game.



    Anyway, all attention towards AZ tomorrow. It has all the hallmarks of an early season pivotal game.

  5. Bobby Russell



    Sorry Bobby I don’t know if rules are different up there.




  6. squire danaher on

    AN DÚN on 25TH AUGUST 2021 4:29 PM



    Maybe I’m being daft here.



    Are footballers excused the civic and moral issues of vaccination?



    If there are infectious Huns allowed to play on Sunday, and assuming the SPFL don’t give a flying deck about that, do Celtic FC not have a duty of care towards their employees?

  7. Apologies for the double link, didn’t realise BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 25TH AUGUST 2021 4:35 PM had already posted it…

  8. seen some calls about game on sunday getting cancelled as a super spreader event, hopefully the same applies to hun walks and anti english marches planned for sept !!!

  9. Adi- no reason why sports teams aren’t vaccinated now,plenty of it available, not as if they are skipping any queue

  10. Amazing how quick guff gets aboooot…………….




    Emdy scanning the oul’ NewsNow platforms ( ignoring the usually preposterous suspects natch) it would be easy to to get the idea that



    A) Big AP praised the huns re the hun abuse of Kyogo ( he didnae )






    B) The huns have had numerous first team players affected by Covid likely to miss crucial games ( we don’t know yet what the extent is)



    Aye. Huns. Guff.

  11. LOVE big Ange interviews – he’s teaching the Scottish media and its viewers in values as well as football. “Are you impressed with Rangers response to the Kyogo situ?” – Ange – Impressed? what’s to be impressed about , this isn’t about being impressive…



    He’s just so in control of his destiny and a man of significant depth.



    Also, liked his response to where Celtic are at as a team – I sense he knows we are way off – he’s expecting the team to be 2 down in a big match and waiting to see if the players continue to trust his methods or afraid to pass out from the back at the risk of losing another goal. I suspect he knows we don’t have the experience or capability to deal with that (I agree).



    Bring me to my last point – he’s talking about 1-2 more players coming in. This for me is not enough – unless one of them is an accomplished center back. Our weakest area closely followed by a woefully weak left back defensively!



    It looks like we “may” solve one of those but not both (although in understand scales can play both positions – is this correct ? he’s 6’3.

  12. T7 @ 5.04



    Anti English march — Nat face painters and bed sheet wavers out on manoeuvres.


    The closer they are to Gretna the more vitriol they produce.


    Again the more kilts on display the louder the insults.

  13. garygillespieshamstring on

    Post Dubai, we had to play two games with a largely reserve / youth team.


    Presumable they don’t run with only two goalkeepers so no reason for them not to play on Sunday.



    If they can’t field a team, they should lose the points.

  14. garygillespieshamstring on

    If it is a super spreader event, don’t let supporters in and make them unfurl the flag in an empty stadium as we did last season.

  15. MadMitch on 25th August 2021 5:07 pm






    What makes it anti English? kilts? Location? Bed sheet waving?



    Is the British army anti English?



    What complete guff.

  16. Knowing that mob as we do ,won’t surprise me if isolation rules are waved for them . They are allowed to do as they wish . Can’t help thinking this covid thing is a ploy and that we will face there full team . Had they been facing a competent team tomorrow then this story would not have surfaced as they need the result . That mob know the downs alright . Sunday will see if we are as good as we think , will tell us if our wee bhoys are ready , so far everything has been good but Sunday is another thing altogether . HH

  17. I don’t trust the SFA governance and management of covid within football. Neil Lennon was clearly furious and holding back much of what was clearly discussed behind closed doors at celtic board level.



    I also don’t trust the Celtic board to stand up and challenge the SFA – oh I wish for a Fergus McCann type character.



    Make no mistake , the covid outlier that is rangers is all to convenient for me. Had they won the first tie comfortably, they’d send back up players – something strikes about his whole episode and I hope out backfires big time!!



    MAKE NO MISTAKE – Celtic will have Covid cases that will test positive , then negative the next day (this happened a few times with our players last season). With delta, don’t expect any less this season!

  18. Thurs goat to be guid news lurkin’ in the wings furra currants…………


    ……….it’ll be like a shot in the arm fur them ahead o’ Sunday.




  19. fergusslayedtheblues on

    I see sky saying the sevco covid personel will miss tomorrow’s game ,both games surely


    I sence a Brysonesque rule being drafted as we speak

  20. squire danaher on




    Imperfectly restricted for UEFA purposes but not SPFL.

  21. Tom McLaughlin on

    I see CQN has its fair share of men who simply detest being told what to do by a woman.



    Welcome to the 21st century.

  22. onenightinlisbon on

    The Sevco covid” or non covid issues are surely a fantastic opportunity for the board to call out the sham that is the Scottish Football authorities………

  23. garygillespieshamstring on




    I’ve spent the last 30 odd years being told what to do by a woman.


    I’m sure I’m not the only one on here.

  24. Snake Plissken at 3.51


    ‘We do not want Covid back at Celtic Park in any shape or form.’



    I went to the Thursday and Saturday games and thoroughly enjoyed them but the reality of waking up on Sunday morning with the dreaded symptoms kind of spoiled it a bit!


    Believe me, Covid is still rampant at Celtic Park and elsewhere!


    Stay safe everyone!


    Hail! Hail!



  25. Tom McLaughlin on

    DNR letters are very much misunderstood and get a bad press, swallowed up by Sun and Daily Mail readers.

  26. The Ibrox club have not divulged how many players have been affected.



    A club statement read: “Rangers can confirm that during our testing schedule, we have received positive Covid-19 tests.




    Why not???????

  27. Regarding our left back issue, why doesn’t Dom ask Arsenal if we can get Kolasinac on loan?


    Tremendous player, and hard as teak.