A Europa League tie against Rennes on Thursday would normally set midweek pulses racing but when Celtic have such a crucial game ahead in the fight for second place Neil Lennon has a major decision to make, does he rest players for the Motherwell game?
Sunday’s game at Fir Park is set to become one of the most important games of the season for Celtic and I’m sure Neil would prefer a clear midweek to prepare for it, but resting players, with the inherent increased chance of defeat, could further damage fragile morale.
Celtic need a confidence boosting win but they need heads focussed on beating Motherwell even more. The consequences of defeat on Thursday are unpleasant, but the consequences of defeat on Sunday are incalculable.
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greenjedi says:
2 November, 2011 at 10:21
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Are we talking about the, laundering thingy ????mmmmm
Kevin wants the return of the ‘Jungle’ ASAP! says:
2 November, 2011 at 10:17
greenjedi says:
2 November, 2011 at 10:12
Re this loan.
Could it be that Rangers and Whyte need to get to January so they can sell their biggest assets?
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I’m sure that, Paul 67 said somthing along the lines that, the hun players with the 5 year deals will be made redundant and, those with less than 2 years will be paid-up ?
If I’m wrong, then I’m sure Paul 67 will put me right!
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I honestly don’t know the answer but my guess at the time of the contract renewals was that it was
(a) A way of enhancing the value of the players concerned which in turn leads to:
(b) they become more expensive to buy and therefore make more money when and if they have to be sold.
(c) It increases their value on the books and increases the length of time their value can be (god I can’t believe I’m using this word!) amortised which would, I think have been a measure designed to get Rangers a ‘line of credit’ which, as I understand, they have been unable to do since the Whyte Shyster took over
As I also understand it Rangers mortgaged the next few Seasons worth of Season Book Sales in order to, ahem, deal with the small matter of the £18 Million that the Shyster needed to cover costs making life very difficult past the next couple of months when the money dries up.
I may have read all of this wrong. I generally lose the will to read when I see accounting terms thrown about but I think the jist of it is that contracts were extended to enhance value of players and club. No doubt it was also a useful way of keeping the support on board and making it look like Whyte was indeed ‘the messiah’. But he isn’t he is a ‘very naughty boy’.
It looks to me like yet another form of financial doping as well. It has allowed them to keep a sqaud together that they know they cannot afford to pay to the full extent of their contracts. Perhaps someone on here will know whether this is legal. Is it OK for one party to enter in to a contract knowing full well that it will not be honoured? Is it possible that players on those contracts were in fact in the know and told ‘look, if we win the tax case we’ll see it out, if not you can move on, you won’t lose either way’? Or perhaps they were convinced that the finances were in place. If someone comes to Steven Whittaker and offers him a massive pay rise is he going to turn it down citing his concern over Craig Whytes financial capability?
Every time we discuss this case there are more questions left than answers. Can of worms doesn’t describe it. Pandora would shriek at the workings out of the opening of this little treasure trove of shenanigans and go looking for her original box where there was less chaos……
And now we have rumours of ‘shadowy figures’ pulling strings. Geezo……………….
Estadio….. So did ye tell Lurker Paul that I was asking fur him :>)
V
HH
Test
Anyone else having difficulty signing in from twitter?
Vmhan
I did indeed. I’ll email you later with his email address.
He read his new name ‘Lurker Paul’ last night while I was trying to watch the Arsenal game. I had to explain that ‘lurker’ wasn’t an insult! :-) I also passed on the ‘group photie’.
By the way, did you keep the two other pictures that his brother took of the carpet? :-)
Hail hail
Estadio
Estadio
nice day here too
I actually have a funeral at uddie crematorium.
fighting to get into the suit I share with Noel
Man City striker Mario Balotelli has made a racetrack for his quad bike in the garden of his Cheshire mansion.
*files under useless info*
All right for those with the money eh?
There are precious few places where you can take them off road without the threat of having your bike siezed and crushed.
QB
Kevin wants the return of the ‘Jungle’ ASAP! says:
2 November, 2011 at 10:36
greenjedi says:
2 November, 2011 at 10:21
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Are we talking about the, laundering thingy ????mmmmm
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I never mentioned anything about that, you got an over active imagination.
whitedoghunch says:
2 November, 2011 at 10:34
I don’t think so. He was just doing it to curry favour with the establishment.
Joe Filippis Haircut says:
2 November, 2011 at 10:36
Good post mate. I think Lenny should be given till the end of the season regardess. Mid season replacements are not generally the answer and it is the very least that the man deserves.
It could make for painful viewing mind.
greenjedi says:
2 November, 2011 at 10:44
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I guess your right!!!
I Apologise M8!
Hail! Hail!
QuadBhoy says:
2 November, 2011 at 10:43
Did you get your job stuff sorted out? Not seen in you in for a while – wondering if you’d ‘upped’ and left.
I myself will be leaving the NHS to work for Dundee College next month :-)
Re. Whyte’s alleged backer. See Phil Mac Giolla Bhain June 2 2011.
Kevin wants the return of the ‘Jungle’ ASAP! says:
2 November, 2011 at 09:58
ernie lynch says:
2 November, 2011 at 09:47
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Don’t you feel that, just a tiny little bit of yourself feels foolish when you talk about, “how much you/we pay Lawwell ?”
I mean, for how much longer will we as a support be, taken-in by Lawwell etc ?
I excuse myself because, I no longer pay a single penny to a bunch of, charlatans to torture my emotions!
Given your moniker,if it happened would you start paying in to watch Celtic?
Kevin
Did you ever get any joy from going and watching Celtic?
weeminger says:
2 November, 2011 at 10:46
never understood that one though he is a geniuenly interesting man to be in the company of
and work with.
dirtymac says:
2 November, 2011 at 10:51
Re: new job – I bottled it. The contract could have paid two years wages over a 6 month contract but I opted to stay in the permanent job for some semblence of job security amongst other reasons.
I did apply for and get a promotion though so for whatever time I still have this job (darn govt budget cuts!) I will at least be better compensated.
Why you moving?
QB
Tomtheleedstim
For me you’ve hit the nail bang on the bonce.
We need to prepare for an extremely bumpy ride this season but stick with Lenny til May.
Estadio says:
2 November, 2011 at 10:42
Vmhan
Can I clarify that there is no link between my recent lotto win and the mysterious loan made to Craig White.
If a group of people wanted to buy a stadium in Glasgow for the purpose of using it as a Concert Venue, ripping out seats at one end and removing the grass pitch, how much would it cost roughly?
Just wondering cause I was thinking say 100,000 times put in £100 each that would be £10m and would earn us money over theyears.
googybhoy says:
2 November, 2011 at 11:08
Estadio says:
2 November, 2011 at 10:42
Vmhan
Can I clarify that there is no link between my recent lotto win and the mysterious loan made to Craig White.
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Is that cause you where already loaded and didn’t need the lotto cash to give to Whyte?
:-)
As the big news from Ibroke gets closer and closer, I was thinking about the really MAJOR headlines which Scottish football has created on UK news programmes throughout my time, early 60′s onwards.
But lets start with big stories which, although making National News throughout Britain, did not come into my major capacity.
Celtic win 9 in a row
Rangers fans riot at Newcastle
Rangers win ECWC
Aberdeen win ECWC
Celtic lose ECF to Feyenoord
Rangers fans in Villa park riots
Rangers equal 9 in a row
Fergus McCann takes over at Celtic
Farrygate
Dougiegate
Dallasgate
Cameron House Gate
……and a few others
However in my opinion the biggest headlines to come out of this country were-
Celtic become first British club to win the European Cup…1967
The Ibrox Disaster…1971
The Battle of Barcelona…1972
The Willie Johnston drug scandal…1978
The Battle of Hampden…..1980
Mo Johnston becomes Rangers first Catholic signing…1989
The Manchester Riots…2008
next……..’RANGERS FC IN ADMINISTRATION’..2011 ?
Thats how big a story the last one will be, make no mistake!
btw, notice the common denominator on every negative headline (apart from 71)?
I’ve probably missed some other majors so feel free to add.
HH
QuadBhoy says:
2 November, 2011 at 11:04
Broken promises re training and opportunities. Our team have lost a sizeable number with no replacements (or promotion to cover some positions) over the two years of austerity measures.
Dundee College offered a number of training incentives and a fair level of autonomy that I realised three years ago I would not get with the NHS (Lord knows why I stuck it out since then??)
greenjedi says:
2 November, 2011 at 11:15
You have sussed me out. I drive a taxi all day as a bit of a hobby. I have no need of the money.:>}
Yon Craigy’s a shady lookin’ wee sh1t isn’t he? Mind you the original Mortimer Mouse is significantly better looking than his namesake. The Thot Plickens, as they say. I’m torn between Neil going and staying, to be honest. The sensible part of me tells me not to keep hitting my head against the wall, and the drink tells me in my cups to rage against the board, even if half of them know FA about the game. Meanwhile Nemesis, in the form of a cruciate ligament, finally nails Naisy. If anyone was looking for doom, it was Naisy. Why do players faces and attitudes change when they go to Rangers? Davy Weir seemed a sensible man and fair-minded player moving from Everton to Them. Watching his expressions and fouls become progressively meaner and despicable makes me think they put something in the water at Mordor.
googybhoy
i need a voluntary wro for the 23 appeals I have outstanding….
Raymac 11.20 What they put in the water could be called a winning attitude we could certainly do with some.H.H.
blantyretim says:
2 November, 2011 at 11:21
googybhoy
i need a voluntary wro for the 23 appeals I have outstanding….
If I was closer I would offer my services…..
There are plenty in here that could argue a case at a tribunal.
Some might have to be told to stop calling the Chair a Hun.
What about Estadio.. Awe Naw…..Auldheid.
10 volunteers from here two each an you do the other three.
Raymac says:
2 November, 2011 at 11:20
Never really seen Weary Dave as being a particularly vicious player; sneaky and certainly cynical in the challenge, but not necessarily vicious (in a violent ‘Kyle Lafferty’ tackle kind of way). Much as it pains me to say it – he’s also the kind of defensive control freak we’re sorely missing.
What infuriates me about him though is his controlling nature: the way he has to confront and control the referee whether it’s a free-kick for or (I know, I know) against his team. He also has a tendency to do sly little fouls here and there off the ball, little pushes on players as they go by (remember when Skoosh got red-carded for not laying out the aforementioned laffatme).
But aye, I think they put something into the water down Ibroke way, undoubtedly that foul orc-brew in LotR.
Any team news for tomorrow?
Is Commons fit to play?
Is it on the telly?
Please.
Phill
ESPN
Philbhoy I dont have any team news but can tell you Commons is fit to play if selected which is highly unlikely the best he can hope for is a place on the bench.H.H.
bt
Cheers!
Sound like your birthday celebration went well!
You don’t look, from memory, a day over 35!
what time is the kick off the morra ghuys?????????
Hail hail
ibgw
8:05
I don’t think its what they put in the water, its more what they put in their ears.
Two examples being Terry Butcher and Andy Goram. Two normal guys totally oblivious the world of bigotry before moving to Rangers.
Terry Butcher told the story of his wife pointing out to him how much he had changed after his move north. A snarling bigot who would enjoy singing ‘hate’ songs about Irish folk and catholics . In his own words it was an embarrassing time as he didn’t like what he had turned into.
Goram was known as a decent type at Easter road without any allegiance to any side from Glasgow. Liked a drink, the ladies and a game of cricket. Went to them and became the most public bigot of them all.
Philbhoy – It’s just the beginning! says:
2 November, 2011 at 11:41
ibgw
8:05
Cheers m8,,,thank god its not one of those bloody 6 oclock kick offs!!!!
Hail hail