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  2. NorrieM on

    Southside @10.32

     

    100% – how does Don Robertson explain not awarding a penalty for seeing a blatant hand ball block of a cross ball ?

     

    Far too many incidences taking place when Celtic are playing, and referees see an incident differently from the rule she of the game

     

     

    Paranoid, not enough

     

     

    Just a thought, wonder how many games Willie Columm will get to referee with Sevco involvement going forward ? They have questioned Mr Columm’s integrity with nothing said by FtSFA referees to defend Mr Columm ??

  4. 16 roads. on

    CALTONTONGUES on 24TH NOVEMBER 2018 11:58 PM

     

    16 ROADS. on 24TH NOVEMBER 2018 8:48 PM

     

     

    The blog still hasn’t fully recovered from the loss of Kojo, in my humble opinion.

     

     

    Hoi, Short Arse :-), Really? You need a dander up the Shankhill:-))))

     

     

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    Harsh CT, harsh indeed.

     

     

    For to lament the departure of Kojo from the blog – the punishment most definitely not befitting the crime in this instance.

     

     

    When Kojo posted, Celtic quick news came alive.

     

     

    HH. ?

  5. 16 roads. on

    ‘Tis a beautiful land this dear isle of song

     

    Its gems shed their light to the world

     

    And her faithful sons bore thro’ ages of wrong,

     

    The standard St. Patrick unfurled. ?

     

     

    HH. ?

  8. Eurochamps67 on

    Has the big build up to sevvies top of the league started yet?

     

    We will need to guard against it.

     

    Probably Peter Lawwell’s fault anyway!

     

     

    Lovely day for a walk.

     

     

    Eurochamps67

  9. 50 shades of green on

    Aye, next weekend could be a laugh, Celtic win the cup and the newbies go top of the league.

     

     

    Pretty sure some folk wont be able to enjoy our cup win ( hopefully) for worrying about the zombies.

     

     

    Papers on the Monday wont know whether to do a 2 page spread of us or them ( aye right).

     

     

    Met a zoomer this morning hasn’t said a word about football to me for 6 yrs now all of a sudden he wants to chat, pretty sure when he left me it dawned on him why he’s avoided the subject for so long.

     

     

    H.H

  10. OneMalloy on

    POGMATHONYAHUN – it was good to catch up, thank you and all on the blog for their thoughts and prayers for my uncle Davie.

     

     

    HH

  11. 21-5-79 ? on

    ROBINBHOY on 25TH NOVEMBER 2018 11:46 AM

     

    For those who are complaining about everything ads on the site

     

     

    AD BLOCKER ALERT!

     

     

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    Works a treat, on IOS and Android

     

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    I used Neverads on this site for years and it was very good. Since the latest iOS 12 update from Apple ad blockers no longer work on CQN. I don’t know how much it is per year to run a site like this but I would certainly would be willing to pay some sort of subscription. With the advertising the site is a nightmare, I could understand if any of the adverts were relevant to the Celtic store etc.

  12. 50 shades of green on

    A beautiful Sunday.

     

     

    Just been informed that my wee Grandson has finally been given the OK to go home after being born 5 weeks early.

     

     

    Gaun yirsell Alfie bhoy,I knew you would get there.

     

     

    A big big heartfelt thanks to ALL the staff at Raigmore hospital in Inverness, angels dosent even begin to describe it. NHS at its Best.

     

     

    ?????

  15. Chairbhoy on

    50 Shades… congratulations and well done Alfie.

     

     

    There was a plethora of new grandchildren a few weeks back. My family had a beautiful wee addition.

     

     

    Now a few years back there was a cluster of boys and in quick succession I became papa to three boys:)))

     

     

    Now with Keira’ s birth a couple of weeks back there were three girls in 18 months:)))

     

     

    So papa to 3 grandsons and then 3 granddaughters or as I like to call them…

     

     

    …my double treble:))))

     

     

    As we’re talking of family and we’ve had reference to St Patrick…

     

     

    My son has been doing his family tree…

     

     

    We got him a DNA kit for his birthday in August.

     

     

    Now way back in the day my dad told me we descended from High Kings of Ireland (Yes that old chestnut:)

     

     

    But the interesting thing was as he traced the family back to Inishowen in the late 1700s the DNA results came back…

     

     

    The results came back and pointed straight at Inishowen and Niall Noigiallach (I know many Irish and Irish heritage males have his gene.)

     

     

    Point is, it all coincided and although proves little adds credence to my Dad’s claim.

     

     

    We intend a jolly out to Ulster to find more information but it lends itself to a huge amount of myth & legend.

     

     

    It also suggests Eogan mac Neill was our ancester. The son of Niall of the nine Hostages and supposed friend of St Patrick – there’s a plaque stating he was Baptised by him.

     

     

    The stories are obvious interesting to me but haven’t found any coloborration from the life of St Patrick.

     

     

    Does anyone know if there’s any info on this outside the legend?

     

     

    Hail Hail

  16. Auldheid on

    GG on 25TH NOVEMBER 2018 5:35 AM

     

     

    Auldheid

     

     

     

     

     

    Thanks for resurrecting that article.

     

     

     

     

     

    As a practicing Catholic from Baptism, I have an ideal concept of the Church.

     

     

     

     

     

    However, as I have aged I have realized that it is organized by men.

     

     

     

     

     

    Men with human foibles, personal ambitions and in many cases naked greed.

     

     

     

     

     

    Accepting that, I have to put aside these imperfect prelates, priests and predators.

     

     

     

     

     

    I think about the people who brought me here and their faith.

     

     

     

     

     

    Likewise Celtic has been a central core in my life, and I have the example of those who first took me to Celtic Park to see Fernie, Evans, Collins and Higgins.

     

     

     

     

     

    Can I abandon them?

     

     

     

     

     

    Can I abandon those that brought us here through adversity and prejudice?

     

     

     

     

     

    No way.

     

     

     

     

     

    We will never be the establishment side, but we will be, in fact are, the greatest force in modern day Scottish football.

     

     

     

     

     

    It has not been done by single actions but by an accumulation of initiatives, some unsuccessful, others wildly successful.

     

     

     

     

     

    Let’s not scratch the small sores, but rejoice in the whole body.

     

     

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    I think we are on the same page up to your last point about the sores.

     

     

    If not scratching allows the sores to heal then yes but what if not scratching allows them to spread, especially if the balm of onfield success is no longer available?

     

     

    Mind you if keeping the sores in check is dependent on the balm of continuing onfield success, so long as the club are prepared to pay for the balm lets enjoy the football and have a right good moan when they stop buying like in the last transfer window. :)

  18. Auldheid on

    Chairbhoy

     

     

    Thanks for the response. I thought the issue behind the original thought provoking article on SentinelCelts was worth discussion here too. Having a good look at ourselves at times is no bad thing.

     

     

    On the Corparate outlook on things BRT

  20. David66 on

    50 Shades well done wee Alfie. A wee fighter indeed. ? get him ready for Celtics Midfield in 2038.?

     

     

    My own grandson who is now 6 years old (and a season ticket holder at paradise) was born prematurely and doing very well at school etc. so it’s onwards and upwards for wee Alfie.

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    D. :)

  21. Auldheid on

    Chairbhoy

     

     

    Thanks for your response. I thought the original point underlying the latest thought provoking SentinelCelts article was worth raising here too. A little introspection from time to time is healthy even if we don’t like what it throws up.

     

     

    On the corporate angle BRTH has held a view based on a CAS case where a Greek club Giannina FC had private agreements with employees.

     

     

    This was discovered when the CFCB were investigating whether or not there was tax overdue to Greek tax authority.

     

     

    The CFCB thought these private agreements were enough ( apart from overdue tax ) to refuse a licence because the club had failed to meet another FFP requirement that the accounts they submitted to the Greek FA were a fair presentation of the financial position at Giannina.

     

     

    BRTH who has long experience in licencing is of the view that their is an argument that RFC should not have received a licence based on

     

    lack of fair presentation and everything gained by them was done so on false grounds.

     

     

    Now supporters will jump on this as a case to strip the titles.

     

     

    However from a corporate perspective what about the cost to Celtic not so much of the prize money lost but trying to keep pace with a club whose success is built on unsustainable debt aided and abetted by a national association who allowed it to happen for years and continue on that path now?

     

     

    When calculating the benefit of having some form of “Rangers” in the game have the PLC taken into account the cost to Celtic of the SFA’s approach to biased governance?

     

     

    Think of the money invested in MoN’s team that had to be stopped because it was unsustainable.

     

     

    Perhaps the cost has been realised and it is the price major shareholders are prepared to pay for a league with the appearance of competitiveness.

     

     

    In a nutshell if Celtic did not have the handicap of the SFA to face each season TRFC would be forever also rans although other clubs who want a share in prize money might find that attractive.

     

     

    What is fair play fair gets ye thinking……

  27. Chairbhoy on

    AULDHEID @ 2:34 PM,

     

     

    Just read the article on Sentinnel Celts… very interesting and yes, that was definitely worth posting on here.

     

     

    We need to have a serious debate about the values and ethics at Celtic.

     

     

    Interesting take by BRT&H, Hope he manages to make headway. How much extra does it cost to compete in a bent market with the regulating authority totally unwilling to undertake their role in a proper and judicious manner.

     

     

    My take on the MO’N thing was that we had risked extra spend to ensure we were competitive if the EPL came calling. When that looked highly unlikely we pared back.

     

     

    Interestingly enough Rangers did too, yet after GS looked at three in a row that changed, Walter was backed to the hilt again until Lloyds Bank stepped in. We now know this splurge was achieved by financial doping and tax avoidance. With that and honest mistakes Walter would go on and get three in a row.

     

     

    So it certainly suggests that Rangers can only compete with Celtic when financially doped and assistance from the SFA.

     

     

    Interesting to see that Sevco Rangers are competing with Celtic for the first time. Their financial results would suggest this is a combination of them finacially doping and Celtic loosing/selling players in the Summer.

     

     

    There is an argument as to how much Celtic should spend to try to qualify UCL. TBB did an interesting post on this.

     

     

    However, there is little argument that if Sevco are challenging for SPL titles we need to up our spend.

     

     

    Wouldn’t it be ironic if we they won the league and upset fholk questioning the Board at the 2019 AGM as to why Sevco got a UEFA licence to compete in the UCL.

     

     

    No balm there… just angery bams:)))

  30. Chairbhoy on

    TIMHORTON @ 3:57 PM,

     

     

    Yes, our wage bill is huge, my post was tongue in cheek, Sevco should be nowhere near us. The quality of squad we are paying for week in and week out should ensure domestic success.

     

     

    We have been quite canny as far as wages are concerned… some of our top wage earners are youngsters…

     

     

    We can afford the wages of a Dembele, N’tcham or Edouard in their early twenties. However their earning potential at their peak, mid twenties and beyond, are way out of our league.

     

     

    The thing is with transfer fee inflation, you at least gain when you sell a player, with wage inflation that money goes from the Club to the players pocket.

     

     

    My belief is that we need to maintain a small high quality squad supplemented by development players. It’s the only way we can afford to operate.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  32. Kev on

    The PLC will do hee haw, until 000’s of empty seats are biting their arses!

     

    The all seated generation of the Celtic supporters, are like pampered pooches, all nice and cuddly, who sing rebel songs, and are enjoying the ride of, lording it over a Sevco who don’t have an erse to their troosers, and these Celtic supporters, have a manager who looks majestical……against, ‘skint’ Scottish pub teams, move him out of the Scottish context, and he doesn’t shine so brightly, so, so long as he keeps winning the one horse league, and hoovering up the trophies, then this generation of the Celtic supporters, will not bat an eyelid at all the Supreme Court backed, mountains of, incontestable evidence that proves collusion between, the SFA, Rangers FC which was designed to help Rangers FC to cheat Celtic FC’s, managers, players and supporters out of, £140 million-ish, and twenty 20 odd trophies. That is beyond dispute. The trick now is, for me, is, how can it be proved that, Celtic PLC’s inaction, in all of this process, is complicity ?

     

    Can the Requisitioner Rebel’s, prove complicity ?

     

    Or, is it going to be down to, individual supporter’s perception’s ?

     

    Or, to cut a long story short,….is the masonic Vatican’s control over Celtic, an issue that can only be remedied by a, series of empty Celtic Park’s which would lead to the control of Celtic FC, at long last, falling into the hands of those who finance the club, the faithful Celtic supporters ?

     

    Anywye,…..Weebawbabbity, keep it lit Amigo. √

     

    Wee Alfie CSC √

     

     

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  33. Auldheid on

    A very fair minded TRFC supporter on SFM posted that he thought the SFA were incompetent rather than corrupt. That prompted this response

     

     

    https://www.sfm.scot/dear-mr-bankier/?cid=22217

     

     

    and in the off chance the document of 19 Sept 2011 cannot be opened from the link within the SFM comment here is one to it.

     

     

    It provides a reason why the SFA are stalling and perhaps why UEFA want them to.

     

     

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6uWzxhblAt9cGJVMlBFZTViWUE/view?usp=sharing

  34. Auldheid on

    KEV on 25TH NOVEMBER 2018 4:58 PM

     

     

    Can complicity be proven?

     

     

    No hard evidence regarding complicity at the granting. See my latest post on the monitoring.

     

     

    However the desperate circumstances of the time for RFC suggest that the Licensing Committee of which Andrew Dickson, now current Director of TRFC was a member and of which Rod Petrie,, whom it is understood was instrumental in the creation of The Five Way Agreement, designed to keep 50,000 supporters of a club playing at Ibrox in the game, was Chairman of, might have been a bit shall we say ‘relaxed’ about seeking confirmation if the proof of no tax overdue payable provided by RFC auditors was as potential to HMRC as it was to the auditors. The SFA had the power to do so.

     

     

    So its all circumstantial particularly when you take into account what took place in 2012 as a result of RFC losing the CL money in 2011 on the park that the licence grant provided.

     

     

    However from summer 2011 after the Sherri ff Officers called then from 2013 after the AGM there is a lot to indicate that the SFA were not keen on having to answer questions. A feature throughout Res12 enquiries .

     

     

    Regarding your supporters call to arms: ST renewal will be a hard sell when the time comes if the SFA have not produced answers by then, especially if our supporters along with other clubs supporters don’t have answers that reassure them our game is governable for all clubs with no exception.

  36. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Auldheid,

     

    I don’t accept it as circumstantial, not after the 2009 letter from HMRC requesting copies of side letters from the SFA.

  37. Celtic Mac on

    Paul 67 et al

     

     

    The recent AGM should leave none on here in any doubt that the present Celtic Board believe that their job is done. “Old Firm” trade mark still owned, albeit not exclusively, Resolution 12 once again kicked down the street like an old tin can, and the other half now once again our main rivals. No clear and present route to the CAS, a situation which suits the Board, the SFA and UEFA down to a tee. And who really cares about the hundreds of £millions written off by Lloyds Bank etc? Not us that is for sure. And though I used the phrase on here the other day, that was in the context of the position of the PLC, I now believe we have moved on, not so much back to the Old Firm of old, but to somewhere far more insidious, we’re part of the Long Firm.

  38. Auldheid on

    CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 25TH NOVEMBER 2018 6:17 PM

     

    Auldheid,

     

     

     

     

    I don’t accept it as circumstantial, not after the 2009 letter from HMRC requesting copies of side letters from the SFA.

     

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    I’d forgotten about that which is backed up by the circumstantial evidence .

  40. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    CELTIC MAC on 25TH NOVEMBER 2018 6:21 PM

     

    Paul 67 et al

     

     

    The recent AGM should leave none on here in any doubt that the present Celtic Board believe that their job is done. “Old Firm” trade mark still owned, albeit not exclusively, Resolution 12 once again kicked down the street like an old tin can, and the other half now once again our main rivals. No clear and present route to the CAS, a situation which suits the Board, the SFA and UEFA down to a tee. And who really cares about the hundreds of £millions written off by Lloyds Bank etc? Not us that is for sure. And though I used the phrase on here the other day, that was in the context of the position of the PLC, I now believe we have moved on, not so much back to the Old Firm of old, but to somewhere far more insidious, we’re part of the Long Firm.

     

     

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    No mention of football ?

     

    Glasgow Celtic are a football team.

     

    The job of the Board of a football team is to produce a winning football team .

     

    Domestically , the Board have been blindingly successful.

     

    The ancillary matters are for supporters with their own particular , some may selfish , axe to grind .

     

    That`s fine as long as it is not to the detriment of Celtic FC.

     

    And sometimes it is.

  41. Celtic Mac on

    macjay1

     

     

    Our football team. The thing is we cannot just be spectators. We cannot just see the demise of Rangers FC, and all the corruption that lies behind through the lens of, this will cost us money. But the Board has consistently done so, and some might say, well me anyway, that this could be construed as us being willing participants to all that has followed the fall. As for Celtic FC, no chance of me not supporting them, not now, not ever, that said it could be argued that it is some of the decisions and positions taken by the Celtic Board that could be in fact be seen as detrimental to Celtic FC. Or as Jake Arnott might have put it, not me Guv.

  42. Chairbhoy on

    AULDHEID @ 5:06 PM,

     

     

    Wow!! That’s a very interesting e-mail.

     

     

    So it was the SFA that got UEFA off Rangers back and why they managed to get away with the WTC money still not paid through the monitoring period.

     

     

    To put this in context, there are some who won’t be aware of the implications vis~a~vis the granting of the 2011/12 UEFA licence, this is huge… please correct where I go astray Auldheid…

     

     

    Early in 2011 the outstanding Tax payments concerning the WTC was overdue… with this outstanding Tax debt Rangers FC didn’t qualify for the licence.

     

     

    So what were they to do…

     

     

    Pay it?

     

     

    Problem, they didn’t have the money, the Lloyds Bank men on the Board held the purse strings and would not sanction payment. Murray IH were in a fix also and could not sanction payment. Although this seems like small beer compared to Rangers other problems we are talking of an unbudgeted payment of nearly £3M.

     

     

    You must remember those with the means had no intention of being anywhere near Rangers at the end of that Season.

     

     

    So, desperate as they were they couldn’t pay it.

     

     

    Contest it?

     

     

    Rangers could contest the bill, they knew that they would lose the case but it would allow them to accurately state on their return that the payment was being contested.

     

     

    However they had a problem, the way Rangers had operated in regard to this bill was a big problem… they had lied to the revenue about side-letters to players, saying they didn’t exist, the revenue had copies. Fraud??

     

     

    They had a chance though, they had asked a specialist London QC to advise on any grounds that the Tax could be contested. Any leetle thing that could justify opening a legal channel and could delay payment.

     

     

    The advise was unequivocal. Pay it or else. Oops

     

     

    Agree terms?

     

     

    Get the revenue to agree payment terms and state the Tax payments had been agreed. Well a couple of problems with this. Firstly if the revenue does agree to do this UEFA were alive to the fact some governments may be a bit lenient on their competing Clubs, cutting them some slack. So even if they got an agreement on payments, either delayed or staged. UEFA could still view these sums as what they were… overdue payable. So no licence.

     

     

    The other problem, no way the Tax Inspector was going to agree terms… this was overdue Tax from ten years previous and the way Rangers had conducted themselves was “tantamount to fraud”. No way were the revenue going to agree an official delay or staged payments, it was totally against their policy. The fact that court collection procedures weren’t in full swing was questionable enough.

     

     

    No, that route was unavailable.

     

     

    So Rangers were facing the perfect storm… they had an overdue payable of £2.8M that they couldn’t pay or deflect that barred them from getting a UEFA licence.

     

     

    Rangers executives had gone down every possible route and came up with a blank.

     

     

    So… only two ways forward, tell the truth, state any mitigating circumstances and hope they get the licence anyway.

     

     

    Or… lie

     

     

    Guess which one they choose.

     

     

    They said that the Tax Bill was still “potential” as Stuart Regan put it… “not crystallized”.

     

     

    Of course, Rangers got their licence and the SFA denied complicity.

     

     

    Now, going forward from May 2011, the bill still had to be paid right, there was a monitoring period before the start of the Season.

     

     

    Here’s what was supposed to have happened, the “potential” ruse was supposed to be temporary. After Craig Whyte buys Rangers, the Tax debt crystallizes and Craig Whyte pays it.

     

     

    Rangers sends an update to the SFA stating the Tax has been paid, the SFA updates UEFA.

     

     

    What could possibly go wrong!? Yes, you guessed it, Craig Whyte never paid it.

     

     

    So I’ve always wondered why they got away with that one. Did Rangers lie again during the monitoring period? Of course no one would be surprised that the SFA turned a blind eye, but why wouldn’t UEFA ask for an update on the “potential” payable?

     

     

    Well, that e-mail Auldheid links to gives you the answer. Rangers didn’t have to lie again, the SFA did that for them… saving awkward paperwork and a possible investigation for their pal Craig… Cosy relationship eh! Wonder how that turned out…

     

     

    What a shower eh!

     

     

    Hail Hail

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