I asked Archie Macpherson to speak about Jock Stein at CQN11, to mark the 50th anniversary of Jock’s appointment as Celtic manager, and then stayed quiet as he spoke. One of the points he made was that Jock would have a news plan ahead of a big game.
Good news would be held back until a few days before the game, giving fans and players a lift, to ensure maximum impact. Bad news could break at any time, but it would have to fight for column inches. As an operator, he is still worth studying. Celtic should plan to dominate this week’s news accordingly.
Apart from that horrible game away to Legia, Ronny Deila has not been to a sell-out Celtic game in a large stadium, and even that was only 30,000. It’s possible he’s never even played before a large sell-out crowd, so you can be sure he’ll not be short of people telling him what to expect, and how to prepare for Hampden on Sunday.
There are some obvious pitfalls for him to avoid, in particular to ensure his players are not provoked into retaliation, but taking too much advice would be a mistake (will not stop us offering plenty advice). He’s spent all season playing and preparing one way, anything which gets in the way of this will only put him off his game. The manager needs to employ a filter this week, tell everyone he’s got the situation covered and get on with the game.
Loving the way recipients of Rangers EBT loans have been asked about an advert dealing with the consequences of their loans, but are not actually asked about the loans themselves. These guys only agree speak on the understanding they are not asked about their loans, none of which are or will be repaid.
I accept that if the loan recipient is being asked about yesterday’s charity match, or some other football game, there’s no place to ask him about his loan, but these guys are regularly commenting on the consequences of their loans, without ever having to deal with the awkward question.
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Alfie, apologies for calling you Michael Grant.
Have you actually read the ad?
Unless you accept Rangers died (and thereby prevent any zombie club from claiming to be the same), you’re essentially inviting anyone else who runs a club to do exactly what Rangers did, then ‘shed debt’ (to use a phrase currently in vogue amongst some of Scotland’s senior football administrators).
The problem is that dying isn’t so much shedding debt as the debt shedding you …
VIP
Bawsman
Get a grip of yourself.
It’s nothing to do with the people of Scotland controlling their own lands.
Alfie a jocky. End of!
Bawwwhaawwwww
MWD said AYE
Hearing KC close to signing his contract, 18 months from what I hear.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
starry plough,
True enough, you’re a good man who wouldn’t leave others floundering or let them be corralled by trolls.
I find it funny that the Derek and Clive fan says he only deals in truth and facts when attacking an advert that stated nothing but facts.
If I were them, I would feel orcaward about that.
Alfie Noakes.
Similarities with david murray and the labour party treasury
Both cant explain their budgetary expertise?
Was there any?
Both suffer from one sided memory.
Both cheated their own.
Both cheated society at large.
Both are like sh**e rolled in glitter.
Irony is the deregulation of banking and tax by a working class labour govt (hahaha) combined with lack of governance in mergers and acquisitions(true solid working class ground now) meant murray could siphon our (govt) monies into a myriad of paper companies.
Succulent transfers of wealth from poor to rich all under a homely wee working class labour govt.
AlfieNoakes/horrid henry how many other fake tags do you have?
Hun troll…slither off and lick your poison tentacles.
The bhoys are on to you.
From the excellent Allyjambo , his name gives a clue to his club allegiance , fromTSFM.
Worth a read.
Thoroughly bizarre.
Allyjambo says:
January 26, 2015 at 9:17 am
78 1 Rate This
The same club belief.
No one, the MSM, SFA, SPL and uncle Tom Cobley, were under any illusion that liquidation didn’t mean the end. Even Charles Green, and a whole host of RRMs told us it was the end of 140 years of history. Then one day Charles Green changed his mind. This man, without a legal qualification, other than those acquired in the life of a spiv, was then accepted without question as the authority on the matter, and his reverse of opinion was never questioned by those who should have been the first to question it. He told them he’d bought the history (for the first time in history!!) and they believed him (well, saw it, and him, as an answer to their prayers).
There was then a whole procession of ludicrous proclamations from this man, almost 100% of them proving to be lies or untruths. The bears, the MSM, and I’m sure the football authorities, want him to stay away from Ibrox for the damage he has done to their favourite club. There are a few voices in the wilderness, I suppose, that still think he was a messiah, but generally no one sees him now as being much different from Craig Whyte. Everyone knows he tells lies.
And yet, there is one thing that he said, one thing that he alone said, that has set up the greatest myth ever in Scottish football. Everything that has happened, and there’s precious little, to back his words, has happened AFTER he pronounced his club was the same as the old one. Without that claim there would have been no 5 way agreement, and so no need for Doncaster to make his pronouncement, even almost 3 years after the event. Without any ‘Rangers’, other than an unconnected, totally new, Rangers (though accepted by the fans as their replacement), there would have been no need for LNS to mention anything about a continuation under SPL rules, for there would have been no club to pass any ‘football debts’ onto.
A man who tells lies and untruths for a very lucrative living has told one lie that his victims desperately want to believe. That lie enabled him to persuade his victims to part with their own money. It enabled him to persuade others, financial institutions, to part with other peoples’ money. He has made a pretty penny out of that lie.
A classic piece of spivery!
And still they believe the lie, the man they believe to be a liar, told them. They believe it because they want to, and because they need to!
So ASA have now said Rangers and Sevco are same club and that Rangers died and it’s ok to say both these things in an advert.
clearasmudCSC
Alfie
I don’t know if you have tallied the results of the silent majority’s view on the poll (I realise it can take a long time to take a poll count of people who don’t communicate in any form), but I have seen two poll results on the ad, both conducted in forums which published many vociferous and hostile opinions about the ad.
In the Daily Record, 58% agree with the sentiment of the ad and 42% disagree. On The Huddleboard, it is running at just over 60% to just under 40% in favour of the sentiments. I am pleasantly surprised by those finding.
I can only conclude that those most opposed have been noisy and repetitive in expressing their disagreement but your constituency, the silent majority, seem to have been lying to you.
Maybe it’s the circles you are moving within that are to blame. Try a change of scenery.
Sad news coming out of Greece today – Demis Roussos RIP
ForeverandeverCSC
eddieinkirkmichael –
ASA never said they were the same club. They said that the people the ad was aimed at would understand what was meant when they claimed to be Scotland’s most successful club.The SFA did comment and what they said was vague and non commital, unlike Doncaster at the start of the year.
What they did do was clear our ad – line by line. Please feel free to object to ASA if you disagree (!!) as any Ibrox supporter is free to do. There are apparently 500M of them so surely someone will challenge the facts stated in yesterday’s statement.
Challenge and lose…
alfie
god help you if you have different opinions from the clique.
Mason watch winter time
Whatever you do bhoys watch yer neighbor
He/she could be a mason or masonette
If you see strange going ons with the boot of the car in winter time
Well all I can say its a birdwatcher or a mason
Just tellin you all like
In case
This week’s news management from CP will be Commons signs 2 year deal and GMS fee agreed for him to join on Monday.
Syd Negakev,
Have you heard the Four Horsemen by Aphrodite’s Child (Demis was in the band)?
good stuff
eddieinkirkmichael
13:49 on
26 January, 2015
What’s more somebody could complain about this advert and it would get upheld. There’s no such thing as pre clearance for print ads. The Committee of Advertising Practice offer pre advertising advice and it’s usually caveated with an ‘unlikely to breach the codes’ (I think that’s what I used to say anyway).
Syd Negakev
13:53 on
26 January, 2015
“ForeverandeverCSC”
Apparently not…
:-)
So what are we?
Nats or a Clique.
Make your minds up guys!
MWD said AYE numpties out in force
So the Sunday Herald needed substantiative proof before accepting the advert which was examined by their lawyers in full before giving the go ahead..
It seems that as the law sees ‘The Rangers’ as a new club then any attempt to affiliate Celtic with the phrase ‘Old Firm’ which clearly no longer exists could be subject to some sort of legal proceedings as being slanderous etc.?
Would this require our custodians to do this or could any shareholder do so.?
winning captains
13:55 on
26 January, 2015
See my above comment to eddieinkirkmichael. I worked at both the ASA as an investigator and did a stint at CAP offering pre publication advice. I even double checked to see if they had started pre-clearing print ads they way they do for radio and tv. They don’t.
If somebody complains and if it gets as far as being investigated I’m happy to offer any advice I can.
Leftclick and Lennybhoy,
Your posts may go hand in hand, KC no to Neil as he has sorted the negos and is going to stay. I hope so
HH
gsu
timhorton
What clique mate, what clique would that be, I see folk on here every day talking about a clique, can you put names to this clique or is it just something folk throw out when they can’t follow the debate.
I’ve been posting on here for years and have never been aware of any clique, posters who know each other socially, from here or from the past yes but as to a clique that runs things or topics I think you might be mistaken unless of course they meet in secret and I’ve not been invited in which case you bar stewards where’s my invitation to the Secret Clique Meetings..
Mon the Clique Busters..
How the hell could anyone who says this : “The man is out (of) his depth. (To) Lose on Sunday is unthinkable.” consider himself a Celtic fan?
Narrow-minded, egocentric idiocy.
JJ
Dharma Bam
No, I hadn’t heard that but have now. It’s good. Saw the big man in concert in Belfast many years ago.
setting free the bears for Res. 12 & Oscar Knox
13:52 on
26 January, 2015
Alfie
I don’t know if you have tallied the results of the silent majority’s view on the poll (I realise it can take a long time to take a poll count of people who don’t communicate in any form), but I have seen two poll results on the ad, both conducted in forums which published many vociferous and hostile opinions about the ad.
In the Daily Record, 58% agree with the sentiment of the ad and 42% disagree. On The Huddleboard, it is running at just over 60% to just under 40% in favour of the sentiments. I am pleasantly surprised by those finding.
I can only conclude that those most opposed have been noisy and repetitive in expressing their disagreement but your constituency, the silent majority, seem to have been lying to you.
Maybe it’s the circles you are moving within that are to blame. Try a change of scenery.
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OK, I will take your poll and points at face value, however does not it show that although the majority may be in agreement with the ad – that there is a pretty sizeable minority (40%/42%) who are not?
If the ‘cabal’ on here are to be believed, then 40% of our support are ‘huns’ – that’s what they, to a man. call me.
Wonder what the result would be if a poll was taken on how many agree with the ‘rabids’ who have caused us so much trouble in Europe. resulting in large fines and a warning of a ban.
My guess that although the majority of us would condemn these actions, there are some some who would defend them as ‘freedom of expression’
There are malcontents, mischief-makers and grievance-seekers, who always believe they have the moral high-ground – oh how mislead they are!!!
AN TEARMANN
I genuinely do not understand your criticism of the Labour government.
I agree that they should have kept their hand on the tiller wrt the city,but other countries were following the same route-to perdition,as it turned out.
For the UK to regulate the financial industry in a different way from the rest of the world would have seen a massive drain from our income.
They would simply have effed off.
As for the other comments about that government-and btw,I refused to vote for Blair-were you and yours better off as a result of it?
I was. So were most people I know.
Well,I’m not now. And neither are they.
Stick to what you know,mate. Stick with a party which,even when you think it has let you down,helps you up.
LOL So are you listing clairvoyant as one of your many attributes – I am not surprised.
SFTB
looks like Hearts fans in general on this blog appreciate the ad.
MWD said AYE
Here is the link
http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/148675-celtic-fans-full-page-ad-in-sun-herald/page-5#entry4655146
MWD said AYE
Alfie, I think that should be ‘misled’, not ‘mislead’.
What school did you go to?
Anyone know why SonsofStruth can post sensitive information yet when Charlotte posted material the account was suspended ?
40% of the people whose votes were recorded, NOT 40% of Celtic supporters.
We don’t who voted in the poll or how many times they voted.
by the way, is cabal another word for clique in this context?
starry, you know who they are you probably have a pint or two with them.
my point is that we are all entitled to our opinions.eg. the herald.
out to shovel my driveway.
Reading on. No surprises for some of the shameless comments also made in that Mini Huns blog.
MWD said AYE
So those responsible for the ad are also responsible for Celtic being fined and threatened by expulsion from European football competition, he he he stupid huns
winning captains
13:55
Thanks for clearing that up.
Anyone wanting proof of how enraged the huns are about the ad should visit my timeline on twitter @edwardrice1 . Some seriously deluded peepul on there lol
weeminger
Thanks and as you know we have discussed this before. It was the Sunday Herald who mentioned ASA and the procedure they went through and the guidance that was subsequently provided.
We supplied documents to prove every single fact stated in the statement.
Indeed we gave our permission for other parties to see the statement in advance including Police Scotland – and certain football clubs formed in 1888 and 2012.
If any of them felt we were saying something that was completely wrong they could have raised an objection with the Sunday Herald or failing that could have gone to court to get an interim interdict.
I have yet to hear any argument against the content within the statement.
I noticed that TSFM site were openly discussing using the same tactic re booking advertising space to get their points across re the SFA.
Finally, the statement was only the starter – the main event is to follow. We were initially going to run with that this week but we decided to hold back to get this weekend out of the way. Nine minutes and it was over…it must have broken your heart Alfie!
Alfie
Did you just point to 40%-42% being a sizeable minority to defend your view?
You did didn’t you?
What do you reckon about the sizeable minority who voted for Independance whom you like to slate consistently as having being (and I’ll paraphrase here) gubbed/losers/wasters/eejits et cetera et cetera et cetera
Yes. You are a Hun (possibly of the green variety but a Hun none the less)
MWD said AYE