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Klimala and data-driven analysis

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Zbyszek, our man in Poland, was surprised when Celtic signed Patryk Klimala from Jagiellonia Bialystok.  It is fair to say the subsequent lack of impact and opportunities bore out what he told me at the time.

Patryk arrived the month after we played a League Cup Final without a striker fit enough to start the game.  Lewis Morgan, a lighter-than-air winger, played the striker role until Odsonne Edouard’s arrival in the second half.  With the league title in the balance in January 2020, there would have been an over-eagerness to get a deal, any deal, over the line.  Which is why Patryk, hitherto plying his trade 33 miles from the Belarus border, came to work in Glasgow.

You and I have not seen enough about Patryk to proffer an informed opinion, his appearances have been fleeting, although there were signs of encouragement, in particular against Lille.  The most relevant fact is that he was unable to acquire a place in an underachieving Celtic team.  Getting our £3.5m investment back feels like an unlikely win.

Perhaps the most curious aspect of his transfer, due to complete shortly, is the buying club.  New York Red Bulls, the North American outpost of one of European football’s most data-driven club owners.  You can be sure Patryk featured heavily in key metric reports during his development years.  If Red Bull are buying, the data will suggest there is a player there; the same data almost certainly took him to Glasgow in the first place.

Separating data from noise is an analytical problem that cuts across disciplines.  It will be interesting to watch what happens to Patryk over the next few years, is he a data find or background noise?

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  1. PHILBHOY on 16TH APRIL 2021 12:09 PM

     

    AIPPLE

     

     

    At 6.00pm tomorrow can you ask your mate in NZ if we won?

     

     

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    I’ll do that and post when I hear back so we can all make a few bucks as well. Bought DOGE at $0.04 and it hit $0.32 overnight.

  2. Sure it’s the best darn team in Scotland,

     

    And the players all are grand,

     

    We support the Celtic,

     

    As they are the finest in the land we love them,

     

    We’ll be there to give the Bhoys a cheer

     

    When the league flag flies,

     

    And it cheers us up when we know the Scottish Cup,

     

    Is coming home to rest at Paradise.

     

     

    Celticcult CSC

  3. glendalystonsils on

    There’s so much background noise surrounding some of our signings , I can hardly hear myself think .

  4. Personally I would have preferred if it was Griffiths that went.

     

    But doubt if anyone would pay money for him

  5. TURKEYBHOY on 16TH APRIL 2021 12:54 PM

     

     

     

     

     

    ‘And before you ask Ernie,no I don’t have a link,just a good memory.’

     

     

     

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    I’m not aware of Celtic having said anything about Howe. That’s why I had asked for a link.

     

     

    I’m not even sure that Celtic could say anything very specific about a managerial appointment given that they need to comply with LSE rules.

  6. The Star above The Crest on

    Philboy

     

     

    If you can, try and get a hold of a book by Alexander Walker Nadell called Fight Old Age. Chapter 4 has a section on the rotator cuff and exercises that should help. Some of the copies I’ve seen online are stupidly expensive so if you can’t find a reasonably priced copy feel free to get my email address from Paul or one of the Admins and I’ll send you pictures of the relevant pages.

     

     

    HH

  7. ‘With the league title in the balance in January 2020, there would have been an over-eagerness to get a deal, any deal, over the line.’

     

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    Getting any deal over the line only shows up how unfit for purpose the club was run.

  8. Does anyone have a link to anything Celtic have said about the possible appointment of Howe?

  9. THE STAR ABOVE THE CREST

     

     

    Thank you for your kind offer!

     

     

    I’ll see if I can get the book first.

     

     

    Just checked on Amazon and used copies are £524.00!!

     

     

    Take care and thanks!

  10. We had 4 strikers ostensibly on our books this season. One of them did the following:

     

     

    1. Came back pre season fitter, stringer and faster.

     

    2. Played with commitment every time, closing down opposition defenders and letting them know they were in a game.

     

    3. Offered an opportunity to be a selfless foil for our languid, lonely-looking, lone striker superstar.

     

     

    We’re selling that guy?

     

     

    I’d start him against sevco long before Griffiths or Ajeti.

     

     

    HH jg

  11. The Star above The Crest on

    Philboy

     

     

    That’s insane.

     

     

    The offer still stands

     

     

    Cheers

  12. jamesgang on 16th April 2021 2:34 pm

     

     

    And of course the question that many of us ask, who is making these decisions?

     

     

    Peter ‘statue’ Lawwell?

  13. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    An T – cheers.

     

     

    That guy is always copying me 🤔

     

     

    BTW – does anyone else have an issue with their VPN blocking Twitter?

  14. Philbhoy on 16th April 2021 2:31 pm

     

     

    You could be missing out. Maybe at that price it has the map to the huns magic money tree?

  15. THE STAR ABOVE THE CREST

     

     

    A new copy is £617.53!!!

     

     

    I’ll get you email address from PAUL and I’ll be in touch!

     

     

    Many thanks!

  16. Still lots of talk around Fergal Harkin being named the DOF. I think the speculation about Howe with Hughes being part of the package is probably just that, unless Howe does sign and Hughes works under Harkin

     

     

    Lets hope it all comes together next week when Dom McKay starts his career with CFC would be an nice way to celebrate pumping the Sevconians this Sunday

     

     

    HH

     

    GSU

  17. TIMMY7_NOTED

     

     

    Mibbe it’s the huns who are selling the books!

     

     

    Gotta go!

     

     

    Family coming for a BBQ to celebrate my 72 birthday today.

     

     

    It only seems like yesterday I was a young fella’.

     

     

    How did that happen!

     

     

    Have a great weekend and …………….

     

     

    C’MON THE CELTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  18. James gang

     

     

    Agreed – of the strikers we have on our books Eddy (who will leave) and Klimala were the two I would keep. Lille and Kennedy’s first game showed what we’d use him for – a strong running selfless hold-up player with a bit of pace. There’s two other strikers I’d want off-loaded.

  19. Paul 67,

     

     

    I never thought anyone would buy Patryk Kimala for £3.5m.

     

    An offer we couldn’t refuse.

     

     

    HH.

  20. glendalystonsils on

    GREENPINATA on 16TH APRIL 2021 3:13 PM

     

    Paul 67,

     

     

    I never thought anyone would buy Patryk Kimala for £3.5

     

     

    Apart from Celtic , you mean? ;-)))

  21. I’ll be totally amazed if we are getting a fee anywhere near 3.5m for Klimala.

     

     

    If we are it’s great business but highly unlikely IMO.

  22. Melbourne Mick on

    Hello again all you young rebels.

     

     

    Just another of my very rare posts now to let you all know that the Celtic

     

    name despite those that would love to decry it is still massive down here

     

    in sunny Australia.

     

    Haven’t a clue who the next manager will be? why not Dave Howe ? but

     

    whoever, it won’t affect my or our CSC’s commitment to our club and our

     

    people.

     

    Lots of division being spouted by many posters now and thats probably why

     

    good Bhoys like Jobo, Corkcelt, Big Wavy, and many others have left, they

     

    probably, like myself, can’t be arsed, arguing when all you want is a good chat

     

    about all things Celtic.

     

    Just before I go and get my beauty sleep, I’d love to mention a young protege

     

    of mine who signed for the Celtic ghirls just recently, Jacynta and if I could spell

     

    her second name I’d deserve a medal, she trained with our under seventeen

     

    bhoys a couple of years ago and I’d like to think she learned a lot about our clubs

     

    ethos from my grandson and his mates who looked starstruck as she mesmerised

     

    them not only by her looks but by her amazing ability.

     

    Off now, big weekend ahead, our Celtic day on Sunday at the Dubliner, fully booked

     

    as usual, who said the season has been shit? tell that to the Mornington rebels.

     

    H.H. Mick

  23. Melbourne Mick on 16th April 2021 3:27 pm

     

     

    Hello again all you young rebels.

     

    Off now, big weekend ahead, our Celtic day on Sunday at the Dubliner, fully booked

     

    as usual, who said the season has been shit? tell that to the Mornington rebels.

     

     

    H.H. Mick

     

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

     

     

    Excellent! COYBIG ♬♬♬We’ll be there, we’ll be there♬♬♬

     

     

    Celticcult CSC

  24. PHILBHOY..

     

    Happy Birthday auld yin…enjoy your day with the family.

     

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    Good to see you Posting MELBOURNE MICK…stay safe.

     

    Ive not had any beer since October 9th 2020, when the Pubs had to close..its been murder !

     

    HH Bhoys.

  25. Turkeybhoy – From earlier, stay safe Amigo.

     

     

    We were meant to be going to Turkey the first 2 weeks in July and to visit family who live out there as well but we moved it to next year.

     

     

    Philbhoy – Good luck with the health issues. Try lifting copius amounts of Pints or cans of Tennents Lager with said arm as exercise. 🍻 Seriously good luck fella.

     

     

    I would have punted Ajeti before Klimala also but did anyone show interest in Ajeti? Doubt it.

     

     

    D :)

  26. To allow Leigh Griffiths to go would be bad…but to do that and keep Ajeti would be even worse. A new manager might help to get Leigh back on track ?

     

     

    Ajeti just isnt very good..sadly IMHO.

     

    HH

  27. Peter Lawwell is the current CEO and has not made any comment about Howe nor any other Manager. Nor is he likely to do so until a deal is agreed. There is the question of the stock Market as we are a PLC.

     

     

    I think this is the right way to behave with a hostile media.

     

     

    One of the problems with transfers is that other teams covet our best players, the ones we want to keep. They dont want players who are flops which we want out. So No bids for Ajeti or Griff. Eddy and Christie have reduced their transfer fees. Rogic and Bitton will be freed. Ajer Julien, and McGregor will fetch decent fees. N’tcham is unlikely to be signed by Marseille so will be back. Doubtful if anyone will want him. Boli, Barkas Shved and Bayo will be hard to shift

     

     

    We dont want offers for Bain, Welsh, Taylor, Turnball, Forrest, Soro nor Johnston, Hazard, Henderson, Connell, also Doohan Montgomery, Hjede and some of the prospects.

  28. MELBOURNE MICK

     

     

    Good idea not trying to spell her second name or TIMMY7 would be after you.(not a Celtic fan)

  29. prestonpans bhoys on

    PHILBHOY on 16TH APRIL 2021 2:54 PM

     

     

    Happy hoopy birthday young fella👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🎇👏👏👏👏🎇🎇🎇🎇