I’m told by a broadcast journalist friend that Jim Traynor, of PR company Level5, started Newco Rangers broadcast media conference yesterday with a warning to journalists that discussion about title stripping was off limits.
The law was that if manager Mark Warburton was asked about the proposed sanction for Oldco Rangers financial doping the conference would be stopped.
Say what you like about journalists, but they regard being told what to ask, or not to ask, as a line in the sand issue. Traynor, a journalist for decades, should have known better than to make such a rookie mistake.
He was told that attempts to subvert discussion about Oldco being stripped of titles is not something that would be accommodated. By the broadcast media, anyway.
Warburton was subsequently asked about title stripping and although he was happy to answer, I’m told, this angered the would-be news-denier, whereupon he “lost his temper”.
Post-conference there was a bit of chat about how they would be able to appropriately report on less-partisan issues, like the Level5 PR-controlled Ladbrokes SPFL, although there was a consensus that “He’ll fall out with everyone soon enough. He always does”.
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TONTINE. That was the last time we did anything consistant in Europe from then on we have had the odd match where we were good. In Ronny and Peter I trust. H.H.
I know that as usual poppygate has been done to death here.
However, an I alone in thinking that apart from the heavily choreographed stuff, there have been less than what has become the usual amount if poppies around.
I’m just surprised it’s taken this long ?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3308796/Freemasons-Utd.html
Auldheid
Did i pick this up correctly,is there doubt if Harper macleod showed them the consequences as you put it, sounds to me the SPL had no intention of doing anything about this despite evidence so remove them all for gross misconduct.
Have we improved under Ronny ? That has got to be the measurement. It is a difficult one to measure if we keep selling his best players although we have also done so under WGS and Lenny. The latter two recieved better re-investment.
We are not yet out of the EL but the performances against Molde were pitiful especially at home and in a game we considered a must win.
If we stop racking up coefficient points at home then qualifying for profits will become more difficult. On that basis aline Ronny’s jaikit must be on a shoogly peg.
HH
Ole Gunnar Solskjær looked at what Molde had successfully achieved under their previous manager – counter-attacking 4-3-3 in Euro games – and decided not to mess with it.
Result? More success.
Give me that over a ‘visionary’ any day.
I jut read Waddle in the Mail. Fantastical stuff
HH
AWE NAW
I suggested the other day that Murray might be getting hung out to dry.
Normally I don’t bother too much about a guess being right or wrong,but I hope to be right wi this one!
On Ronny’s success domestically and his failure in Europe. And am I convinced he is the Manager to take us forward.
Ronny won 2 out of 3 trophies last year domestically and arguably but for some cheating against Caley we may have had a shot at the treble. This Season thus far we are ahead in the League and in the semi-final of the League Cup. All going to plan, all good.
Europe is a different thing, we started off poorly last season. We had a year more or less to get the personnel in and for Ronny to mould those Players into the way he wanted the Team to play.
Ronny in my opinion has failed. We haven’t come close to where we aspire to be. Gordon and Neil punched above their weight with a reduced budget and got us to the last 16. Martin was most probably correct we punched above our weight in 2002/2003 and he had far better Players at his disposal. The point I would make is that the Gordon, Neil and Martin used tactics and got the best out of their Players in order to reach the last 16 and in Martin’s case to Seville. Ronny on the other hand has failed tactically, failed to get the best out of his Players in order to take us to where the three Managers got us. You could argue as well that, the Teams by and large Ronny has failed to get past were not as good as those that Gordon, Neil and Martin managed to overcome.
TD67 you ask how many Managers since that great day in 1967 have won a European trophy. Can’t argue with that but Gordon, Neil and Martin had a right good go, got the best out of their Players, used better tactics and had their respective Teams playing with fire in their Bellies. In my opinion Ronny has failed tactically, get the best of his Players and in my opinion not got the Team playing with fire in their Bellies.
We need to get back to what Jock instilled, I accept that it is unlikely that we will see us win a European trophy but please give us a Manager that will have a right good crack at it. We have lived far too long on the history of 67 and nine in a row.
They are dead and IF they manage to get a team back next season it will be a long time until they are force again, if at all.
We need to be competing to win domestic trophies and doing our best on the European front, we need to be feared again in Europe.
Ronny will only get sacked in my opinion if he fails to win the League, which we won’t. However, I will qualify my prediction, I do firmly believe that if Ronny does not get the fast flowing football, learns from his mistakes tactically, his position will seriously be reviewed at the end of the Season.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
up_over_goal on 8th November 2015 1:45 pm
The same counter attacking 4-3-3 RD successfully used at Stromgodset. Why has he changed to the snail paced 4-2-3-1 at Celtic? Players? Supporters expectations of the Celtic Way? Manager?
Awe ffs, a Freemason club for players refs and managers, that’s just what we need right now,……Angel of death take me now
Am off ti the brazen, HH
THE EXILED TIM on 8TH NOVEMBER 2015 1:20 PM
TD67
‘I never slag the players or the coach, never have done, never will.
They do the best they can do, it’s good enough for me to know that’
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You don’t think any of the players could be criticised for lack of effort or commitment in any European games this season?
Lennybhoy
I’ll answer you before I go, regarding NL and WGS I prefer watching RD style, so I suppose it’s as they say, all about opinions, I’m not here to make excuses for RD, but like NL and WGS I will support him and not ask for his head in a plate, that I don’t get with lots in here, and the others who use him as a stick to beat up the board and PL agenda driven plastic Tims I have no time for, support the team and the staff and the board, that’s me, I’ll never change, NEVER.
Tara I’m offski HH
Roma Lazio game on. Thousands of ultra supporters from both teams refusing to attend the match in protest at newly introduced security measures.
Latest from JOHNJAMESSITE suggesting that Barry Ferguson might have a lot of time on his hands soon. And he doesn’t miss Neil McCann either.
https://johnjamessite.wordpress.com/2015/11/08/the-supreme-court-defence/
This guy is brilliant we’l 90% of the time. https://johnjamessite.wordpress.com/2015/11/08/the-supreme-court-defence/comment-page-1/#comment-1893
The Supreme Court Defence
Someone who benefited from a £2.5m EBT, Barry Ferguson, has been the first individual who evaded tax, in his case £1,325,000, to invoke the argument that the EBT discussion is still open and subject to a Supreme Court ruling. This is palpable nonsense Mr Ferguson. As the late, great, Hugh Adam pointed out, few footballers are likely to compete in a Brain of Britain competition. Mr Ferguson’s position is as flawed as one would expect from an individual whose greed resulted in significant pecuniary advantage.
Allow me to introduce a novel consideration to Mr Ferguson and those who participated in this illegal enterprise. Why would anyone who plays professional football believe that they should not have paid tax on their earnings? Mr Ferguson, as captain of Rangers, could have set an example to his team mates and insisted that he wanted to pay tax to build hospitals and to support the National Health Service. Mr Ferguson could have insisted that he pay tax to support and fund the education of his children. On this day when we celebrate the brave men and women who gave their lives to fight against a Germanic yoke, did Mr Ferguson not wish to support our armed forces? At Ibrox, we celebrate the contribution made by those engaged to defend our liberty. Why does a former captain of Rangers believe that not one penny of his £2.5m should be spent on these brave men and women?
The ‘fat lady’ of the Supreme Court is not going to sing for you Mr Ferguson. Three distinguished law lords at the inner court of session have deliberated carefully and arrived at a conclusion welcomed by every tax-paying citizen in the UK. Why would BDO appeal this decision on your behalf? Which point of law would compel the 7/8 distinguished knights and dames of the realm to sit in judgement? Would you argue that a ruling in Scots Law has no jurisdiction on a Scottish employer?
Your disingenuous article in the Daily Record is a sham. We are aware that Traynor and Kerr of Level 5 are flat out to deal with the fallout of your tax evasion. Did you ask Level 5 to review your copy prior to publication?
The sooner you accept the consequences of your illegal tax evasion the better Mr Ferguson. Of course Neil McCann, who is fond of brandishing rule books on television, should be asked whether a side letter on his £500,000 loan should have been registered with the Scottish Football Authority? Is it not the height of hypocrisy to know the rules but believe they don’t apply to you because you played for Rangers?
Mr King has challenged the jurisdiction of HMRC in Guernsey. This expensive action failed. Mr King was so fond of expensive actions that he spent £50m in his attempts to avoid the consequences of his tax evasion. How much of your £2.5m are you willing to risk to challenge this ruling on your tax evasion Mr Ferguson? Surely, if you believe that the directives of the inner court are unlawful you would be prepared to challenge their veracity at The Supreme Court?
Mr Ferguson is a tax evader, just like the current Chairman of Rangers, whom he openly supports in his puff pieces in The Daily Record. I trust you have £1.325m in an escrow account or you might be phoning in your Daily Record articles from one of Her Majesty’s Prisons. Lester Piggott was jailed for three years for evading tax on £3.25m.
Mr Ferguson might not yet realize that even if he repays the exchequer, he may be imprisoned for tax evasion.
Is it any wonder Mr Ferguson is promoting a Supreme Court ruling given that his liberty depends on it?
today might tell a lot about the mettle of the players selected and the management teams ability to affect their performances individually and as a team.
Could be a white knuckle.
I would take a sore defeat (a la Mowbray) today, if it was the catalyst to Ronny’s departure – however it appears that it would not be and so, as usual, I hope for a win – hope being the operative word.
How people cannot see the bankrupcy in the way Ronny sets his team up, is beyond me – we only win because we are the best of a bad lot!
EL
I believe, perhaps naively, that the players did as best they could, it wasn’t good enough, obviously.
There have been suggestions that some weren’t trying, if that is the case, punt them, but as I have no proof that was the case…..
Take the game last week, we came out of the traps flying, had our play been rewarded with a goal or two that it deserved, things would most likely been very different, same in the Fener game, had Jo hansen not missed that sitter when we were two up, again things may well have been very different.
I believe that they are not the strongest mentally, their heads go down when things are going against them, that is not a slight on them, it’s just the way it is imo, if they had mental strength, as well as tecky strength, they wouldn’t be playing for us.
HH
SFTB
you are of course correct again when you point out that even the legendary Mr Stein got some things wrong!
I’m old enough to remember the abuse poor Tommy Callaghan got from sections of the Jungle because he was a runner not a passer of the ball. TC ran his heart out for our cause in a way not seen on Thursday from anyone apart from young Tierney!
However I think you would agree that Mr Stein had accumulated a bit more credit in the bank than Ronnie has mustered.
To me Ronnie is the guy that has read the coaching manuals,attended all the right courses and visited the best practioners but left to himself cannot work the oracle!
Facing the reality of our position in European football we need a system that suits us not Barcelona or Bayern Munich
As I said many times before he plays a system that we don’t have the players to play.
To me that either arrogance or stupidly – either way it ain’t working!
Joe FH
Sorry but I no longer trust in either Ronnie or Peter!
Peter might be god at the numbers side of things but the football department ain’t working
Given our limited financial resources the Moneyball experiment needs us to qualify for the CL
We have the easier path thanks to our lobbying along with others for the Champions path.
PL deserves credit for that.
However it falls apart because we have now appointed two guys in NFL and RD who should never have been given the job because they did not possess the requisite experience of managing a clu of our size!
Lenny initially overachieved because he had at least had the hard experience of playing in England and for us. He did not have the experience to either grow young players and showed no real sign of wanting to.
Ronnie might have been a manager before but at such a low level that it doesn’t really count – no disrespect to Norway but a football powerhouse it isn’t!
Guys like Hughes, McNamara and Hartley would not have done any worse but didn’t have that “European” gloss that RD seemed to possess!
The most important appointment at any club wishing to progress is that of the manager. This is especially true at club with limited financial means like ours.
18 months in and the side shows no progress however more importantly the manager shows no sign of even recognising the problems.
Someone please tell that RD doesn’t really think that signing yet another lightweight attacking midfielder is the answer to our problems!
If he does then it looks as if he will be a later day Tommy Burns. Tommy was a brilliant guy and coach but his answer was to always sign another forward. Meanwhile we couldn’t defend to save ourselves. That resulted in us eventually losing a SCSF to a lower league team when with all our great forwards we couldn’t defend a one goal lead against Falkirk! Great Celt but never a Celtic manager!
HH
Gordon Waddell says he was never part of the lamb munching set. He sure is now.
Yet another agenda ridden article, with at least three main issues conveniently ommited.
Monthehoops !
Far too many long posts for a small brain like mine, I agree with you all apart from the Pastry, I never want Celtic too lose
Ross County v Celtic – ko 3:30 – BT Sport 2
Celtic Football Club @celticfc 5s6 seconds ago
Celtic team to play Ross County: Gordon; Lustig, Boyata, Ambrose, Izaguirre; Bitton, Johansen; Forrest, Rogic, Armstrong; Griffiths
` “don’t ask players do things they cannot do”
Ronnie fails this test week in week out and things ain’t getting any better.`
We have won nearly every game we have played `week in week out`. How can that be defined as failure?
JJ
Celtic Football Club @celticfc 28s28 seconds ago
Subs: Bailly, Tierney, Armstrong, McGregor, Mackay-Steven, Ciftci, Cole.
Ellbhoy,
The Sunday Times lead story is Footballers in financial meltdown as HMRC go after footballers who participated in aggressive high risk tax schemes. Kevin Campbell ex Everton , Arsenal faces loss up to £7M. Other players named to.
It’s will soon be Walter Smith, Murray, Ogilvie, McCoist, Ferguson and the rest. Payback time is coming big time.
The clean out to come will have to include the removing of titles. The years of cheating and tax avoidance will be addressed and the slate will be wiped clean eventually. There is no other option and the guilty better start preparing for their day of reckoning.
I wonder … if your employer said that they had a scheme where you could receive money tax free, perfectly legally and with no risk … how many of us would say no?
For small amounts I think most would be tempted. But is there a point where you start to think that it is just far too good to be true? And would you ask for some advice from your agent, accountant or anyone else who knows something about tax?
Same old, same old, minus our best player in recent weeks
Celtic Football Club
Celtic Football Club – Verified account @celticfc
Celtic team to play Ross County: Gordon; Lustig, Boyata, Ambrose, Izaguirre; Bitton, Johansen; Forrest, Rogic, Armstrong; Griffiths (MH)
6:30 a.m. – 8 Nov 2015
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Good to see Johansen keep his starting place – been playing his heart out for it…
We are short of defensive cover on that bench.
celticfc
Subs: Bailly, Tierney, Armstrong, McGregor, Mackay-Steven, Ciftci, Cole. Kick-off 3.30pm (MH)
Big Carlton on the bench, as is Armstrong who is also,starting???
I take it that’s a mistake with Armstrong playing and on the bench…
Scott Allan possibly?
HH
armstrong playing and on bench tae. bhoy oh bhoy first drink in 15 weeks ,to cue a virus i might add.
Glad to see no mention of Blackett. I hope he never pulls on the hoops again.
Don’t know what the weather in Dingwall is like but if it’s anything like central Scotland it won’t be a day for silky soccer. Any win will do.
R C
GREAT SONG
THATS THE NAME OF A PUB IN LOS GIGANTES IN TENERIFE GREAT PUB BTW!!!
BCW……we’re short of defensive cover in our
starting 11!!!!!!!!!!!