You wonder if Ally McCoist rues the day he called for the public outing of members of the SFA Judicial Panel which imposed a player registration ban on his club. One judge, one journalist and one football club, Raith Rovers, were soon outed. Crossing the Fifers was a mistake.
Raith Rovers are now pointing out the same facts we have discussed here for months:
“We are also concerned that there has not as yet been an opportunity for clubs to receive legal advice from the SFL and/or debate the potential consequences on the smooth running of our league in the event that the Courts are asked to annull/strike down any of the corporate transactions that have led to the current position of Sevco Scotland Ltd as owners of certain assets of the Rangers oldco.
“Indeed, the position as regards the potential sanctions to be applied by the Scottish FA via its Appellate Tribunal has also still to be bottomed out.”
In short, Sevco’s ownership of Ibrox may be nullified by the courts and the SFA will be forced to subvert judicial oversight if it wants to guarantee Sevco participate in football next season.
While these concerns were only expressed online, the SFA were able to ignore the issue, but with Raith Rovers asking the questions Mr Regan will have to look SFL clubs in the eye and tell them what he’s going to do with Lord Carloway.
Lurgan 53
Dwyer O’Hagan, or Lurgan 53 as he was known here, passed away on Wednesday after an illness stretching back to last year. Dwyer enjoyed our triumphs and defeats on the blog for many years and will be sadly missed by us all. Our condolences to his family and friends.
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Moonbeams WD. Kano 1000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. Champions. C’mon Wee Oscar. on 7 July, 2012 at 21:21 said:
Ok Paddy G
What if some mob (let’s call them Al Jazera Soccer) bought Celtic. Decided that they no longer required the clubs ethos, worked at breaking ties with our Clubs Irish heritage and charitable giving and stated that anybody called Paddy Gallagher was not welcome.
Would it still be unconditional?
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Yes -I would stick two fingers up at Al Jazera Soccer and get some tit to buy us back for a pound, clear all our borrowing and….wow, naw I would say ‘If you know the history’ :-))
MWD
I’m ok I’m a jannie!!
lennon’s passion on 7 July, 2012 at 21:22 said:
Ernie ffs throw a punch your getting bitch slapped all over the place.
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Hilarious!!! :-))))
BMCUW @ 21:00
No bottle of wine required for Madamoiselle FFM.
Just a litre of voddie :)
Scottish Football League clubs are being asked to vote on whether to give their board the discretion to put newco Rangers directly into the First Division.
The details of the resolutions have been sent out to SFL clubs which could see Rangers admitted into the SFL top flight or Third Division.
They mean Rangers’ future hang on a package of measures to drawn up by Scottish football’s governing bodies before next Friday’s crucial meeting.
A consortium led by Charles Green, which bought the assets of Rangers FC PLC, has applied to join the SFL following the rejection of its application to be admitted into the SPL.
The SFL meeting on Friday will see a series of votes that will decide Rangers’ future.
The first resolution to be voted on would admit newco Rangers as an associate member of the SFL.
The second resolution would allow Rangers to be admitted into SFL First Division at the discretion of the SFL board if the board is persuaded by a package of measures put forward by the Scottish Football Association and the Scottish Premier League.
The meeting notice reads: “(ii) That the Scottish Football League Members direct the Board of Management of The Scottish Football League (the “Board”) to provide that Rangers F.C. shall play in the Third Division of the Scottish Football League during Season 2012/13 unless the Board shall have to its satisfaction negotiated and reached agreement with The Scottish Premier League and The Scottish Football Association on a series of measures which the Board shall consider to be in the best interests of the game, how it is structured, how it is governed and how it is financed, whereupon the Board shall be authorised to provide that Rangers F.C. shall play in the First Division of the Scottish Football League during Season 2012/13.”
The broad details of this are likely to include a TV rights payment of £1m and the introduction of play-offs. The full details would be drawn up in advance of Friday’s meeting.
The SFL board has ruled a simple majority will be required in the vote. Airdrie have already indicated they will abstain because of a conflict of interest.
An SFL club source confirmed to STV that the clubs would know the full details of the package on offer before voting – making this second resolution the key vote to decide whether Rangers goes into the First Division.
The meeting notice continues: “Details of the series of measures referred to at (ii) above shall be made available to the Members in advance of the meeting and an opportunity for full discussion of those measures will be given prior to the proposals being put to the meeting.”
The third resolution provides for either Dundee or Dunfermline to resign to join the SPL – depending on SPL’s decision on which to invite to join its ranks.
The SFA and SPL have already indicated that they want Rangers to be First Division next season, saying there would be severe financial consequences for the Scottish game if they are not admitted.
However, several SFL clubs, who will meet at Hampden for Friday’s vote, have already said they resent the pressure being put on them and want Rangers to start in Division Three.
Auldheid,
SFL2? is that a typo (not like you at all :) ) or a compromise that no one else has thought of yet? (very typical of you!).
Billy Bhoy
It’s grey outside. Not an interesting ‘fifty shades of grey’ sort of grey, just a dreich, boring barren, still and damp grey. It’s quiet too! Not a quizzical, mysterious, teasing and tempting quiet, just a flat, monotonous, hypnotic and take it or leave it quiet.
And yet there’s something just right about a panorama that holds no real interest for my senses and no distraction from my thoughts. It’s almost as if whatever power lies outside our ken has just for a short few minutes said to me….
“Here you are Matt, nothing to disturb you, just a plain backdrop, a mental brush and palette and an artist’s imagination and memory to conjure with. Now upon that blank mind’s canvas sketch and fill in the colours, the sights and scenes that were central to so many of Lurgan53’s posts.
“And don’t forget it’s a special palette; it contains more than colours and tints. It contains little dabs of emotions, of laughter, hope and faith. It contains moments of great harmony when things were going well, and it offers the occasional dark threads of twisted discord that no doubt wove its way through his life as it does with so many of us.
“Most of all it contains the words that he wrote, words that were seeds which germinated thoughts and made you think and decide. You are part of that montage as are a thousand others. You all owe him even if he asked for nothing!”
Other than in the ethereal corridors of the net I never met Lurgan53. Hopefully one day that gap will be filled, for without any doubt as I scan through that mental tableau of suddenly fresh recollections there stands at the end a man of silent courage and firm belief. He was always worth more than just reading, he was worth thinking about and many a time had that special gift that even if you didn’t want to think too much, his honesty forced you to.
I don’t come on the net much at all now, but I still read when I can.
I am sorry that the ‘reading’ resulted in me finding out about the passing of Lurgan53. But of this I am sure.
When the dreich, boring, barren, still, damp, flat monotonous, hypnotic, take-it-or-leave-it grey quietness lifts, I bet that there will be a new supernova in the night sky and the birds will be singing a new tune; and I am pretty sure I know who the star will be and who the song will be for.
Get some sleep while you can Lurgan53, there’s enough of us will be along soon enough to create a stramash.
Hail Hail
Estadio
Paddy G not a heavyweight???
Ffs he must have lost some amount of weight :-))))) x
Early night for me as working in the morning.
I will be home for the tennis. Sleep well Andy.
Good night and God bless all, specially Dwyer’s family and friends at this tough time.
SFTB @ 21:06
Another concise, conclusive and insightful post.
From wiki:
“War is an organized, armed, and often a prolonged conflict that is carried on between states, nations, or other parties typified by extreme aggression, social disruption, and usually high mortality.”
Organised. Check. Armed (with facts). Check. Prolonged. Check. Other parties. Check. Extreme aggression. (See huns.) Check. Social disruption. (See Stewart Regan). Check. High mortality …. Hmmmm
Well the Huns are dead. Before this is done I expect Stewart Regan, Neil Doncaster, Campbell Ogilvie, Walter Smith, David Longmuir, Graeme Souness and any number of others to be out of work and Craig Whyte, David Murray and any number of others to be in jail.
In terms of careers, reputations and legacy … those are pretty mortal.
I know EXACTLY what we’re talking about.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 7 July, 2012 at 20:55 said:
Sorry, off board for a wee while.
I assure you that I respect your, and others, right to post. Indeed, I often agree with some of the complaints some people make. However, there are some people, and I’m sorry to say that (on this issue) Ernie is one of them, who seem to snipe at our board almost no matter what they do.
They complain if the board is silent, then days after a public statement roundly applauded, they complain that it didn’t address an issue which has only recently come to light.
Some Celtic fans rejected the decision made to pursue a youth policy years ago which ultimately created the Lisbon Lions. Kelly advised them to keep their money. Board members make some mistakes and some good decisions. (ask Minty!) So do supporters.
In a situation such as we currently face, no one has a crystal ball, so no one can claim to be 100% sure that they are correct. However, our board have followed the law and the rules of the game. So far, they have decried wrongdoing where possible and voted in line with most supporter’s wishes when offered the opportunity. I think we ought to let them get on with it. Yes, we can seek to influence them, but some posters seem remarkably critical based upon assumptions and rumour.
Finally, 2005? You have a long memory!
Sorry for the rant and layout… I’m on an ipad. That’s my excuse…
Hail Hail.
Philbhoy – It’s just the beginning! on 7 July, 2012 at 21:17
I Disagree!!! PG is definitely a CQN heavyweight.
He might not be a Brogan, Barcabhoy or Battered Bunnet but many a post has had me smiling. ;)
James Forrest is Neil Lennon! We are ALL Neil Lennon! on 7 July, 2012 at 21:01 said:
John Powel SJ said what you did though differently.
hamiltontim on 7 July, 2012 at 21:29 said:
Paddy G not a heavyweight???
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Ya wee git, I am down to 4000 calories an hour:-))
bjmac
How’s things not spoke for a while………….
HT
thats you lost any chance of popping down to Jersey… o))
ElDiegoBhoy on 7 July, 2012 at 18:51 said:
I could not agree with you more …… Ernie obviously the Celtic Board, and his constant griping is becoming really tedious …….. Celtic cannot intervene in SFL ‘business’ ……. Like the rest of us, our Board can only hope the SFL see through the illegal divisiveness of the ‘suits’, in their attempt to put money before justice / integrity / character ……. The SPL have done a ‘Pontius Pilate’ on the SFL, Handing them the ‘hot potato’ ……. The SFL are damned if they, and damned if they don’t ……..I am confident they will make the only decision justified, and vote no to option 1 …….. Thus protecting ALL teams currently in the SPL…..
And another thing……can you imagine the outcome if the SFL fans started to ‘rib’ the sevco fans at games ….. Board up your shops …..!!!!!!!!!!!
Auld Neil Lennon heid on 7 July, 2012 at 21:21 said:
ernie lynch on 7 July, 2012 at 20:38 said:
”A month or so back many would have thought that Rangers out of the SPL and Newco not in the SPL was beyond reality and some, perhaps yourself, who suspected Celtic would vote for an SPL parachute would be proved wrong.”
I’ve said from the start that the huns would be liquidated and kicked out of the SPL.
I went toe to toe about it with Tiny Tim some time ago. He just couldn’t accept it might come to pass.
The truth is none of us know how big a part the Celtic board have played in us getting to this position. As it happened even if Celtic had voted yes to newco they would still have been voted down.
The board loyalists aren’t prepared to admit the board are conflicted and might be prepared to accept the huns in division 1. They are simply ignoring the possibility. That’s not loyalty, that’s stupidity
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Blinkin’ flip,Ernie.
Yer happy to fall out with everyone because of the word-might-and even that is only your opinion?
Fair play to you ,bud,for holding to your opinions,but you must be a blast in the pub after the game.
Billy Bhoy on 7 July, 2012 at 21:28 said:
a tpyo :)
Sad news tonight to hear that Celtic great Joe McBride has passed away, my father raved about you Joe when I was a wee bhoy..
Rest In Peace…
I know this has been noted earlier today, but what a brilliant line from Alex Thomson on Off The Ball quoting his HMRC contact re the meaning of “liquidation”!?
“It means we can take the gloves off and we can get medieval and forensic…”
Alex didn’t say that his HMRC contact was the great Ving Rhames, but it obviously was, and you have to assume that the blow torches will be at full.
James Forrest is Neil Lennon! We are ALL Neil Lennon! on 7 July, 2012 at 21:22 said:
It’s bizarre.
No matter what the SFL Chairmen vote this proposal for Div 1 can only pass if the SPL agree the terms and the lack of calls for removal of Doncaster and Regan make it crystal clear that there is tacit support being given to this by SPL Chairmen. They have been moved once on the situation and I am sure those who have now bought season tickets should now be applying for refunds and referring the matter to trading standards for a resolution.
I’ve said it before the remedy and the power lies with fans groups. Who knows who?
Auld Neil Lennon heid:
Once again mate, you have done sterling work on the UEFA angle.
I don’t see how this will fly with them, I really don’t. Was it you who uncovered the clause relating to sporting integrity before financial considerations?
What will it take to bring these people in? What would it involve? Can clubs request their involvement?
Fortunes Favour Mibbes
Quality.
Their banned list is no doubt extensive but surely they didn’t think it was a…..
Green Door
Philbhoy – Goodnight big man, I’m still awaiting that email;-))
hh
bjmac
HH..
Amazing how Regan,Doncaster,Ovilvie can suddenly get their act together when it’s needed by the cheats formerly known as Rankers..
To think we teach our kids about honesty, integrity, decency..
Why , as Alex Thomson said, are so few journalists raising issues.. ?
Corruption of the highest order…
HH
Paddy
It’s awrite I look as if I’ve been eating your share :-))
BT
I’m not worried have you seen that television ad they have for Jersey?
All the wumman are hacket :-)))
HT
aye, but the tatties are good…
anche gli angeli on 7 July, 2012 at 21:25 said:
James Forrest- A War!!!
Get a grip ,My Grandfather & Father fought in the 1st and 2nd WW
Get some perspective for goodness sake. Its a sport we are talking about
phew!…………..reality at last.
starry plough
Praying and hoping that this is untrue but I am told it has been stated on twitter.
If I start proof-reading my posts for missing words etc, can I be considered for promotion to a CQN ‘lightweight’, please ……..!!!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01kjfyq/Off_the_Ball_07_07_2012/
one hour 10 for another fantastic comment fro Alex Thompson to Cosgove.
very good listen.
Jersey Royals, the locals do resemble a hun team photo but the visitors yum yum
ernie lynch on 7 July, 2012 at 21:35 said:
I had not read or could not remeber your position on that so we were on the same track in that respect.
On not knowing, Im not sure we can say no one knew anything.
Traynor ( I know I know) said Celtic were whispering to the blogs. He was half right.
Paddy Gallagher on 7 July, 2012 at 20:57 said:
”Ernie Q clandestine goings on?? Or an open invitation to meet and raise your questions with the board? You BOTTLED it, live with it”
I was never invited to meet the board.
I know you’d like to think I was, but I wasn’t.
OK?
lennon’s passion on 7 July, 2012 at 21:28 said:
This just underlines the point I’ve made. The lack of calls for removal of Doncaster and Regan make it crystal clear that there is tacit support being given to this by SPL Chairmen.They have pulled the wool over their fans eyes who have now bought season tickets and need to be taken to task for it
Starry
Strange you should post that.
My missus was looking in to FF the other night and there was a thread about Joe being unwell. The comments, to a man, were extremely complimentary of him as a man and a player. I thought it odd that nothing had been mentioned on here.
God rest his soul.