Having disposed of Raith Rovers last night, Celtic have two huge away games, against top of the table Motherwell before a trip to Moscow for a Champions League match against Spartak in six days.
Tonight Spartak play just a few miles from the Ukraine border and have a journey of close to 1000 miles on Saturday. It is little wonder they, like Celtic, are looking for ways to improve their injury record.
Celtic will travel to Moscow only a few hours after Spartak leave the city of Perm to journey home. On Tuesday we will be the fresher team. Could this be the game we break our duck away from home in the Champions League? If we get it right on the park it will be.
I didn’t read the (incredible) statement by Charles Green until late last night, when I caught it via the excellent analysis by Paul McConville on his Random Thoughts blog. Mr Green, Paul concludes, is “Either… stupid, which he is not, or he has decided to continue to appeal to his core support”.
There is a third alternative. Last season we watched Craig Whyte, then Duff and Phelps, embark on a series of unfathomable actions. Neither party was stupid, nor were their actions necessarily guided by anything as a coordinated appeal; they were simply being buffeted along by circumstances. No one was in control, had the experience necessary or was party to a deliverable Grand Plan, resulting in a series of random utterances.
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ASonOfDan.
It seems that every time cg starts shouting, there is a reason behind it.
Sounds like a worried man.
Very difficult to get anything from a Russian team in Russia, especially as the winter weather starts to take hold. Spartak might have a long league journey but they do this every week.
We’d do extremely well to get a draw.
Mort.
Thanks,
asonofdan
13:15 on
26 September, 2012
tigertim
I was told they have to pay all outstanding football debt by the end of September or else they are Donald Ducked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I’ll have to order extra sedatives……
Rrc
Lovely to read that. Hope you manage another trip to see the Celtic on Saturday.
I’m sort of confused.
Are they a newco or are they still oldco, or a mixture of both ?
Having read Paul McC’s take on things, still none the wiser in truth.
They have debts to pay, this was part of the agreement in obtaining a licence.
Chuck obviously dosen’t have the money to pay them.
Is his plan to get the club kicked out ? what would that achieve ?
More confused by the day.
Sonofdan, thanks, not seen that anywhere
Quick to criticise. Slow to respond. Last time I bother.
miki67
He’s perhaps at work, like me!
I often miss replies to posts by days.
Dinny fret!
;0)
asonofdan
I thought the sfa had brokered a deal that the debts were due at the end of October.
Could be wrong.
Wee article in the Metro today about Rapid trying to claim 700k. The quote went along the lines of “how much we will get remains to be seen”.
Out of all the teams they owe money to, Rapid seem to be the ones with the bone for it.
THE EXILED TIM
I follow this story on a daily basis and am hugely confused.
It would be less confusing to me and, more importanly, creditors of the old company, if there was a clear distinction between the old company and the new in terms of the naming and imagery used by the new company.
At the moment, I just can’t fathom how the the old company think they can get away with ditching so much debt and continue under the guise of a newco.
I worry that other clubs and business up and down the land may try the same thing.
When do BDO get to work again?!
HH
Rocket Man
Maybe we should call them Rabid Vienna.
Page 2 Pode?
miki67
13:26 on 26 September, 2012
Quick to criticise. Slow to respond. Last time I bother.
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Sorry, Miki.
I assume that message is for me.
I have only just seen your previous post.
If I had thought for a minute that your ‘angry’ post was your level of literacy, I would not have commented on it.
However, I know that you are a guy who knows how to express himself eloquently.
We should try not to become a mirror image of our sad neighbours.
We have a great facility here & I hope we all try to respect it.
Apologies for my grumpy criticism.
Good Luck.
Good morning to all the Bhoys in Scotland, Ireland and beyond.
It’s a gloomy, rainy day here in Old Kentucky, but still a great day to be a Celtic man.
newrad..,
it was discussed on here a long time agoi, someone said Henke introduced it to a few of the players during his time.
traditionalist88
We keep getting conflicting reports re BDO.
The whole thing stinks of hunnery, from the top to the bottom.
Never in my life have I seen an administration like this one, not a single redundency, not a one.
The creditors are getting shafted big time, and the biggest one of all has not insisted on BDO taking their place, Lord Hodge has asked for a report from duff and duffrer, still waiting.
It seems like the FTT is what everybody is waiting for.
Then what ?
They are skint, no chance of paying a thing.
They will not be kicked out of the game.
A few titles may well be striped, so what.
They will prob go bust again, so what, they will come back, more rabid than ever.
This is a chance to rid the game, and society of the real problems, will it be taken, more chance that I will be the next queen of england.
DisgustedCSC
I noticed that some posters were talking about whether titles, trophies should be stripped from Rangers. This is a simple admin job, when cheating is proven, in any sport, the result of the contest is changed, in this case in each game an illegally registered player participated the result will be changed to 3-0 in favour of the opponents. In turn this will change the position of the cheat in the league/cup, when the reshuffle is completed we will find out the positions those who did not cheat should rightly be awarded.
History will not forget what the cheats have done, remember 1988, Olympic 100 final, remember who won, what happened to him. Ben Johnsons cheating has never been forgotten.
Does anyone remember who did actually win the Gold medal after Johnson was disqualified?
TET
Hello Queenie
In law they’re different entities, a contractual debt that was owed to oldco should remain with oldco, which is exactly what has happened with the majority (ie non-football related) of the debt.
In football terms the SFA, it appears, have ratified them as the same footballing entity, which means they can impose football rules and sanctions.
The money which the SFA is withholding from newco is not a contractual debt, it is money attained via application of the association’s rules. Therefore, again, subject to any conditions the SFA may apply in accordance with their rules. This is not newco’s money until the SFA say it is their money.
kdc
12:12 on
26 September, 2012
Sorry Wonky, you’re not in a minority, you’re just in the wrong on this one. If a team/athlete is caught cheating after winning a match/competition/event the result of that match/competition/event in the interests of integrity must be overturned, their opponents in a match awarded the result or in some circumstance the runner up in the competition/event awarded the win.
kdc:
No long in and seen your post. I would be quite happy to be wrong if the majority are calling for a decision that might not be identical to my own- if it comes to giving us the titles and others cups then so be it. I will accept the decision easily enough. The most important thing is that they are recognised as cheats and punished accordingly.
All I worry about is giving revisionism an opportunity to manifest itself and even that mob ( if they survive into the future) building some monstrous edifice to martyrdom based on us stealing “their” titles. A future HunZombieFC maybe be even more rabid than the deadcoFC if we are awarded those titles- like Versaille, Germany and its aftermath come to mind. Titles of course would be awarded automatically and have nothing to do with any influence from us but that wouldn’t stop the hordes from using it to reinforce their siege mentality.
Ah well, its all academic anyway. They will probably go bust at some time.
I hust want them officially branded as cheats and liars and for them to punished.
tigertim/ASonOfDan,
Apart from all the transfer money they owe various teams they also still owe GAIS £240K for Celik for his youth development.
You never know hopefully Celik with be the death of them!
HH
Bishop B
THE EXILED TIM
I was informed they had to be paid by October. I assumed this meant before the 1st of October. I may be wrong.
Anyway, Green desperately wants someone to declare them a new club, that much is clear.
Congratualations to all who donated to the bucket collection at the big Division 3 game on Sunday. ONE THOUSAND POUNDS was raised for Malawi.
Doc
Carl Lewis?
Doc
Carl Lewis won gold in 1988 following Ben Johnson’s disqualification.
Linford Christie was promoted to Silver.
Mort
Does any know what Ben Johnson does now?
Doc
Carl Lewis.
Lewis was quoted as saying that it was impossible to run as fast as Johnson even before the drugs test results had been announced.
However Christie was obviously not on the good gear at this point as he only managed Bronze (later made Silver)!
HH
/Bishop B
kilbowie kelt13:40 on26 September, 2012
>>>>>
Salutations. My anger is only directed to the worldwide wrestling federation club that exists in and around Ibrokes. Anybody else behaving like them would have melted down by the courts by now.
All the legalistic excuses around the niceties of liquidation just don’t cut it for me.
That s the financial and rareified legalese side of things.
If the sfa had any gumption, expulsion and banishment could’ve been immediate. Even somrthing with teeth would have gone some way to addressing the viper in their midst. But, no.
We get watery, thin gruel….apologetic mealymouthed vagueness. And Campbell Ogilvie, seemingly superglued to his orange throne, overseeing an omnishambles of epic proportions.
And taking us all for fools.
Take a break time for me.
I’ll take it out on the ivories.
HH!
rrc @ 13:04
Glad you enjoyed your day on Saturday and overall your week.
Excellent sentiment re. Wee Oscar.
MWD
Len Brennan
14:03 on
26 September, 2012
Doc
Carl Lewis.
Lewis was quoted as saying that it was impossible to run as fast as Johnson even before the drugs test results had been announced.
However Christie was obviously not on the good gear at this point as he only managed Bronze (later made Silver)!
HH
/Bishop B
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Actually he was as he tested positive for the stimulant Pseudoephedrine after the final, but somehow he got let off with it
Ben Johnson works as a fishmonger in Winnipeg.
ASonOfDan
Aye, looks that way.
It’s gone way, way beyond for the good of the game, it’s political now, and has been for a time, being conducted by the masonic and the OO along with the compliance of the authorities.
They will never get punished to a level that deserves their crimes, it’s a white wash.
When it comes out that they have cheated on an industrial scale, I honestly don’t have faith that the clubs in scotland will do the right thing, and I include our board in that.
They deserve to be kicked out of the game, anything less will be just as criminal as what they have done.
I can honestly see me giving up on the game in scotland, and I say that with a heavy heart.
emu
Was the thousand pounds after expences……….
Starry Plough
Johnson has had a quite colourful life, however he now lives and continues to coach in Canada.
Philbhoy – It’s just the beginning!
Just read that, did you see he coached Maradonna at one point!!!
Birds of a feather!
Michty me sport is totally bent..
tet,
put down the depressants and slowly move away from the bottle :o)