The harmful urge to sign players early

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How many of us rolled eyes at the news this week that Issouf Bayo was off to play for Watford, a Premier League team last season, and Oliver Burke would ply his trade in the Bundesliga with Werder Bremen?  Both are forwards, both 25, both fleeting unsuccessful stints at Celtic, now they have won a ticket for wages at a high paying club.

There is a great truism in football, the fans who watch a player week-in, week-out will provide a more telling insight than YouTube clips, stats or scouting reports.  Good luck to both of them but I expect neither to succeed.

The problem with Watford and Werder is that they both want a striker in early and do not have the patience to hang around until nearer the end of the window, when talent that is actually in demand will become available.

Looking in from the outside, we can both see the rashness.  What benefit is there in recruiting guys who were so easily handled by SPFL defenders?  Watford fans will see Bayo who banged in 11 goals in a six-month loan stint a Charleroi, whereas Werder fans will wonder at how they picked up a striker on a free transfer who has twice been sold for in excess of £13m.

Having qualified for the Champions League group stage, there is, by contrast, a calm over events at Celtic.  Two of last season’s successful loanees are now on permanent deals, Dundee United’s free keeper was signed and we paid a tidy sum for what, by any measure, is an ambitious move into the South American youth market.

There are more spaces in the squad available: a third striker option and midfield cover.  Let’s not be like Watford and Werden Bremen.

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  1. Official Site updated, confirmation, McInroy, Patterson, Coffey, Afolabi , Connell, Dembele & probably a couple more whose names I can’t remember have all left the Building,

     

    33 Players are listed as being part of first Team Squad but I expect this number to be whittled down fairly pronto with Loans & Sales.

  2. OMG — the tangled webs people weave …

     

    The board / DD know a bit about stadium investment.

     

    They have power washed the outside so we are OK regarding the future.

     

     

    So says a rich man’s bag carrier — who would appear to have a side hustle selling German cleaning kit.

     

     

    And now the echo pipes in.

  3. DalriadaBhoy on

    Ernie

     

     

    Looking forward to reading the link you have sent on Cults.

     

     

    I shall do that as soon as i have read your explanation as to why the Declaration if Arbroath was ineffective for the purpose it was intended BECAUSE IT WAS WRITTEN IN LATIN

  4. CC @ 9.10

     

     

    Something badly wrong — either we can’t pick them or we can’t develop them.

     

     

    I know it is a tough gig bringing talent through but our record is brutal.

     

     

    Interesting to find out where they all end up.

  5. ‘First of all, if a religious community or a religious leader seems too good to be true–guess what? It’s probably too good to be true. That’s because group cult behavior conspires to cover up and hide away anything that tarnishes the glossy image of that “wonderful community” that all the members want so much to believe in. This is the first sign of a cult: everything is too wonderful and everyone is ready to tell you how wonderful it all is.’

     

     

    https://www.ncregister.com/blog/4-danger-signs-of-cult-like-behavior-and-4-antidotes

  6. ‘The second thing to watch out for is the leadership. The leadership of a cult will invariably be selective and exclusive. There will be a public face of the leadership, and that person will unfailingly present the nice, glossy and polished face of the organization. The public face will be squeaky clean and wonderful.

     

     

    If it is a personality-based cult there may be no other leadership. However, if there is a board of directors or trustees, they will remain in the background. You may not know who they are. Their meetings will not be public. They may even have a vow of secrecy about their meetings. They will call this something nice like “a confidentiality agreement.” This means they cannot discuss what goes on behind those closed doors.

     

     

    There may not be a formal leadership group at all. Instead the leader may simply have an inside circle of friends and confidantes who nobody really knows because they never have any meetings as such. The decisions are all taken in private. The leadership will be tightly controlled and it will be by invitation only. If you encounter non-transparent leadership in this way, don’t be surprised. Be suspicious.’

     

     

    https://www.ncregister.com/blog/4-danger-signs-of-cult-like-behavior-and-4-antidotes

  7. ‘A third trait of a cult is that complete loyalty is demanded of the followers. Dissent and criticism are not permitted. Those who dissent will be marginalized, excluded from decision-making and demonized. If the leaders cannot get rid of the dissenters they will be isolated and given a name. They will be “the troublemakers” or “the grumblers”.

     

     

    The dissenters from within will be considered the most dangerous ones and you will find that there are divisions — those who are loyal followers and those who are suspected of being “disloyal” or “rebellious”. The disloyal and rebellious ones will be deemed “unspiritual” or “difficult”. In extreme cases the dissenters will become scapegoats and all the negativities of the group will be projected on to them.’

     

     

    https://www.ncregister.com/blog/4-danger-signs-of-cult-like-behavior-and-4-antidotes

  8. ‘A fourth characteristic of a group that has become a cult or is behaving in a cult-like manner is that there will be a persecution complex. A group of outside forces will be identified who are “the enemy”. A little fortress will be built in which all those on the inside are the “faithful ones” while all those on the outside will increasingly be demonized and feared. There will be no real effort to build bridges or get to know those on the outside. There will be no real effort to treat the outsiders as real people. Instead they are the enemy to be kept at arms’ length and against whom the faithful will usually project their fears and suspicions. At worst the enemy will have all the sins and fears and dark negativities projected on them.’

     

     

    https://www.ncregister.com/blog/4-danger-signs-of-cult-like-behavior-and-4-antidotes

  9. ‘The problem is that when a group is becoming cult-like it does so innocently. Nobody sets out to establish a cult. Instead, unconsciously, certain individuals start to behave in this manner and they support one another. The leadership starts to create an unrealistically wonderful religious atmosphere and those who want and need that sort of religious group will support it and feed the flames.

     

     

    The faithful will set the leader up on a pedestal and declare him to be wonderful, and the leader (who needs and likes the adulation) will encourage their hero-worship. Those who object or suspect what is happening will be automatically excluded or marginalized by those who wish to perpetuate the super-wonderful world they are setting up for themselves.’

     

     

    https://www.ncregister.com/blog/4-danger-signs-of-cult-like-behavior-and-4-antidotes

  10. D.of A. luv — not really getting it.

     

     

    Very “Scots” focused with Strathclyde treated like the enemy and Pictland a sideshow rather than the majority of the realm that was.

     

     

    Plus no mention of the Anglian element around Edin’s Burgh and the south that made up an important part of the nation.

     

     

    To think that the Picts and their matrilineal society was swindled out of its rightful place as the centre of the nation by these carpetbaggers from the West — Pictland instead of Scotland is where we now should be.

     

     

    And the Briton’s of Strathclyde — and their Brythonic language rather than the Erse of west — they are considered an enemy to match the Normans and the Vikings — incredible.

     

     

    And the king was of Flemish stock with his new fangled feudalism — what a dog’s breakfast.

     

     

    No wonder we are in the mess we are in.

  11. DalriadaBhoy on

    Ernie

     

     

    Your comment on the DOC, was either ignorant from a lack of knowledge on your part.

     

     

    Or dishonest on your part.

     

     

    If there is another explanation it will need you to explain why being written in latin meant it wasn’t effective for the purposes it was intended.

     

     

    I can only assume you won’t explain why the DOC was ineffective because the word nation. Was written in latin because you can’t.

     

     

    Yet today you thought you would speak up for cravat man’s views on this blog today even though you can’t apparently explain your own arguments

  12. Former @CelticFCAcademy centre-back Liam Morrison was included in Bayern Munich first team training today ahead of the new season.

     

     

    Boss Julian Nagelsmann watched on as he prepares his team to claim their 33rd German title 🇩🇪

  13. Declaration from Biddulph

     

     

    Ego cubitum ire

     

     

    Night all

     

     

    Footies back tomorrow

  14. You couldnae Adam & Eve it my Dad turned up one day when me and my pal Tony had smoked a few doobies.

     

     

    This place is relatively remote.

     

     

    Ornothologist extraordinaire.

  15. DALRIADABHOY on 4TH JULY 2022 9:27 PM

     

     

    Would you be so kind as to post my previous post on this subject? It is clearly causing you great distress and I’d like to help you if I could, But I’d rather explain what I actually wrote rather than your version of what I wrote.

  16. DalriadaBhoy on

    MadMitch not going to bite at your D of A comments, you will need better bait than that.

     

     

    The reason i am not is because of the respect i have for Mark Twain in general and 2 of his famous quotes in particular.

     

     

    Are you trying to deflect from Ernie’s ignorant ill informed comments on the DoA?

     

     

    If you were trying to demonstrate your ignorance of history congratulations you have

  17. MM

     

     

    “You want evidence of your negativity — read your own posts would be a good start.”

     

     

    That’s just a harmless jibe not a proof. You’ld have been as well saying “Aye! Yir Maw!”

     

    ————————————

     

     

    “Are you a salesman for Grammarly?”

     

     

    Again looking for some kind of justification from an imagined occupation of a disagreeing poster. That’s just weird.

     

     

     

    Do you not read all those poster who have stated that they cannot read your texts because they are impenetrable because of excessive abbreviations? I would have thought it might be worth a bit of effort to make your views clearer.

  18. Fritzong

     

     

    I am well aware of the controversies over the Celts though not sure what expertise Father Douglas has on the subject. Whether there is a unifying DNA trace or not does not invalidate the historical record of existence over the centuries in many parts of Europe and Anatolia.

     

     

    It certainly does not argue against my point that the word Celt or Celtic does not belong exclusively to Ireland or Scotland

  19. Evening all.

     

     

    I expect that the majority of posters will miss or ignore this post. :)

     

     

    Don’t you know there is an internal squabble.

     

     

    To quote BANKIIEBHOY, ‘deprive of oxygen’ and ‘steady’

     

     

    Any how’s

     

     

    During the break in the football, I love watching a bit of boxing.

     

     

    The clip I am going to post is of Ali vs Wepner, it’s believed that this fight was the inspiration for the original ‘Rocky’ movie.

     

     

    Wepner’s knockdown of Ali has been scrutinised, apparently, Wepner does an old boxing tactic, by standing on Ali’s foot as he delivers the knockdown punch.

     

     

    My wife does the self same thing to me when she has had enough of me.

     

     

    If you have managed not to scroll by, Thanks

     

     

    Brian

     

     

    https://youtu.be/WBPDsE080kM

  20. Bayo played less than 4.5 ninety minutes. Scored 2 and set up 1.

     

     

    There’s a good player there. Didn’t get a chance and was maybe the wrong player for us. He’ll do well with service.

     

     

    Burke is a good signing for a team that sets up to take advantage of his attributes.

     

     

    Not really sure what the goal of the lead article is supposed to be. Still apologising for PL?

  21. Ernie

     

     

    Read your cult posts

     

     

    Tony Blair.

     

     

    Salivating for power,and marketing that fits.

     

     

    It’s the marketing that is your cult el

  22. DalriadaBhoy on

    Ernie

     

     

    You have stated on this blog that the use of medieval latin meant that the DoA want as effective as it was intended to be.

     

     

    You have stated that on this blog, explain that please, once again trying to deflect.

     

     

    If you can explain fine. One of the traits of intelligence is to change your mind.

     

     

    Love history (you might have guessed), happy to change my mind when presented with evidence.

     

     

    Unless you are prepared to explain would suggest you shouldn’t be recommending retired cravat loving archeologists for their views on history.

  23. Drambowiecelt on

    Roll on Wednesday 5.30 pm ..i cherish every new season…

     

    Cause who knows if we will see the next one……Amidst all the squabbling .one upmanship

     

    and general I’m bigger than you ya mug……We will all be glued to the screen..CTV.dodgy links

     

    buffering…etc etc and wishing we pump the opposition..Cause we do not do friendlies.

  24. IniquitousIV on

    Skinny white dude shoots 30 people in Indy Day parade in Highland Park, Illinois. 6 dead so far.

     

    He got away.

     

    Estimated 50 or so mass shootings in the U.S. since the Uvalde atrocity.

     

    Unless particularly egregious, they hardly make the news any more. Too commonplace.

  25. Drambowiecelt on

    @Brian that reminded me of my ole R.E teacher ….He woud stand on yer shoe

     

    As he administred the belt 6 of…..The bassa

  26. I know you are all just dying to read the DoA so here it is:

     

     

    Sanctissimo Patri in Christo ac Domino, domino Johanni, diuina prouidiencia Sacrosancte Romane et Vniuersalis Ecclesie Summo Pontifici, Filii Sui Humiles et deuoti Duncanus Comes de Fyf, Thomas Ranulphi Comes Morauie Dominus Mannie et Vallis Anandie, Patricius de Dumbar Comes Marchie, Malisius Comes de Stratheryne, Malcolmus Comes de Leuenax, Willelmus Comes de Ross, Magnus Comes Cathanie et Orkadie et Willelmus Comes Suthirlandie; Walterus Senescallus Scocie, Willelmus de Soules Buttelarius Scocie, Jacobus Dominus de Duglas, Rogerus de Moubray, Dauid Dominus de Brechyn, Dauid de Graham, Ingeramus de Vmfrauille, Johannes de Menetethe Custos Comitatus de Menetethe, Alexander Fraser, Gilbertus de Haya Constabularius Scocie, Robertus de Keth Marescallus Scocie, Henricus de Sancto Claro, Johannes de Graham, Dauid de Lindesay, Willelmus Olifaunt, Patricius de Graham, Johannes de Fentoun, Willelmus de Abirnithy, Dauid de Wemys, Willelmus de Montefixo, Fergusius de Ardrossane, Eustachius de Maxwell, Willelmus de Ramesay, Willelmus de Montealto, Alanus de Morauia, Douenaldus Cambell, Johannes Cambrun, Reginaldus le chen, Alexander de Setoun, Andreas de Lescelyne, et Alexander de Stratoun, Ceterique Barones et Liberetenenetes ac tota Communitas Regni Scocie, omnimodam Reuerenciam filialem cum deuotis Pedum osculis beatorum.

     

     

    Scimus, Sanctissime Pater et Domine, et ex antiquorum gestis et libris Colligimus quod inter Ceteras naciones egregias nostra scilicet Scottorum nacio multis preconijs fuerit insignita, que de Maiori Schithia per Mare tirenium et Columpnas Herculis transiens et in Hispania inter ferocissimas gentes per multa temporum curricula Residens a nullis quantumcumque barbaricis poterat allicubi gentibus subiugari. Undeque veniens post mille et ducentos annos a transitu populi israelitici per mare rubrum sibi sedes in Occidente quas nunc optinet, expulsis primo Britonibus et Pictis omnino deletis, licet per Norwagienses, Dacos et Anglicos sepius inpugnata fuerit, multis cum victorijs et Laboribus quamplurimis adquisuit, ipsaque ab omni seruitute liberas, vt Priscorum testantur Historie, semper tenuit. In quorum Regno Centum et Tredescim Reges de ipsorum Regali prosapia, nullo alienigena interueniente, Regnauerunt.

     

     

    Quorum Nobilitates et Merita, licet ex aliis non clarerent, satis patenter effulgent ex eo quod Rex Regum et dominancium dominus Jhesus Christus post passionem suam et Resurreccionem ipsos in vltimis terre finibus constitutos quasi primos ad suam fidem sanctissimam conuocauit. Nec eos per quemlibet in dicta fide confirmari voluit set per suum primum apostolum vocacione quamuis ordine secundum vel tercium, sanctum Andream mitissimum beati Petri Germanum, quem semper ipsis preesse voluit vt Patronum.

     

     

    Hec autem Sanctissimi Patres et Predecessores vestri sollicita mente pensantes ipsum Regnum et populum vt beati Petri germani peculium multis fauoribus et priuilegijs quamplurimis Munierunt, Ita quippe quod gens nostra sub ipsorum proteccione hactenus libera deguit et quieta donec ille Princeps Magnificus Rex Anglorum Edwardus, pater istius qui nunc est, Regnum nostrum acephalum populumque nullius mali aut doli nec bellis aut insultibus tunc assuetum sub amici et confederati specie inimicabiliter infestauit. Cuius iniurias, Cedes, violencias, predaciones, incendia, prelatorum incarceraciones, Monasteriorum combustiones, Religiosorum spoliaciones et occisiones alia quoque enormia et innumera que in dicto populo exercuit, nulli parcens etati aut sexui, Religioni aut ordini, nullus scriberet nec ad plenum intelligeret nisi quem experiencia informaret.

     

     

    A quibus Malis innumeris, ipso Juuante qui post uulnera medetur et sanat, liberati sumus per strenuissimum Principem, Regem et Dominum nostrum, Dominum Robertum, qui pro populo et hereditate suis de manibus Inimicorum liberandis quasi alter Machabeus aut Josue labores et tedia, inedias et pericula, leto sustinuit animo. Quem eciam diuina disposicio et iuxta leges et Consuetudines nostra, quas vsque ad mortem sustinere volumus, Juris successio et debitus nostrorum omnium Consensus et Assensus nostrum fecerunt Principem atque Regem, cui tanquam illi per quem salus in populo nostro facta est pro nostra libertate tuenda tam Jure quam meritis tenemur et volumus in omnibus adherere.

     

     

    Quem si ab inceptis desisteret, regi Anglorum aut Anglicis nos aut Regnum nostrum volens subicere, tanquam inimicum nostrum et sui nostrique Juris subuersorem statim expellere niteremur et alium Regem nostrum qui ad defensionem nostram sufficeret faceremus. Quia quamdiu Centum ex nobis viui remanserint, nuncquam Anglorum dominio aliquatenus volumus subiugari. Non enim propter gloriam, diuicias aut honores pugnamus set propter libertatem solummodo quam Nemo bonus nisi simul cum vita amittit.

     

     

    Hinc est, Reuerende Pater et Domine, quod sanctitatem vestram omni precum instancia genuflexis cordibus exoramus quatinus sincero corde Menteque pia recensentes quod apud eum cuius vices in terris geritis cum non sit Pondus nec distinccio Judei et greci, Scoti aut Anglici, tribulaciones et angustias nobis et Ecclesie dei illatas ab Anglicis paternis occulis intuentes, Regem Anglorum, cui sufficere debet quod possidet cum olim Anglia septem aut pluribus solebat sufficere Regibus, Monere et exhortari dignemini vt nos scotos, in exili degentes Scocia vltra quam habitacia non est nichilque nisi nostrum Cupientes, in pace dimittat. Cui pro nostra procuranda quiete quicquid possumus, ad statum nostrum Respectu habito, facere volumus cum effectu.

     

     

    Vestra enim interest, sancte Pater, hoc facere qui paganorum feritatem, Christianorum culpis exigentibus, in Christianos seuientem aspicitis et Christianorum terminos arctari indies, quantumque vestre sanctitatis memorie derogat si (quod absit) Ecclesia in aliqua sui parte vestris temporibus patiatur eclipsim aut Scandalum, vos videritis. Excitet igitur Christianos Principes qui non causam vt causam ponentes se fingunt in subsidium terre sancte propter guerras quas habent cum proximis ire non posse. Cuius inpedimenti Causa est verior quod in Minoribus proximis debellandis vtilitas proprior et resistencia debilior estimantur. Set quam leto corde dictus dominus Rex noster et Nos si Rex Anglorum nos in pace dimitteret illuc iremus qui nichil ignorat satis novit. Quod Christi vicario totique Christianitati ostendimus et testamur.

     

     

    Quibus si sanctitas vestra Anglorum relatibus nimis credula fidem sinceram non adhibeat aut ipsis in nostram confusionem fauere non desinat, corporum excidia, animarum exicia, et cetera que sequentur incomoda que ipsi in nobis et Nos in ipsis fecerimus vobis ab altissimo credimus inputanda.

     

     

    Ex quo sumus et erimus in hiis que tenemur tanquam obediencie filii vobis tanquam ipsius vicario parati in omnibus complacere, ipsique tanquam Summo Regi et Judici causam nostram tuendam committimus, Cogitatium nostrum Jactantes in ipso sperantesque firmiter quod in nobis virtutem faciet et ad nichilum rediget hostes nostros.

     

     

    Sanctitatem ac sanitatem vestram conseruet altissimus Ecclesie sue sancte per tempora diuturna.

     

     

    Datum apud Monasterium de Abirbrothoc in Scocia Sexto die mensis Aprilis Anno gracie Millesimo Trescentesimo vicesimo Anno vero Regni Regis nostri supradicti Quinto decimo.

  27. There was plenty of dissent within the Labour Party to Blair, Blairites and Blairism. So that wasn’t cult like.

     

     

    Salmond? Not so much.

     

     

    Sturgeon? Not so much.

  28. Maybe I shouldn`t have taken up so much room on the site but I couldn`t resist. Also, for all non-Latin speakers, it will still make more sense than MM`s posts.