I see several “fans’ groups” are engaged on the subject of our old friend, Juninho, who played around 13 games for Celtic eight years ago and benefited from an Employee Benefit Trust before and during his time at the club.
Can you believe this is where their focus is?
As Sir David Murray and a gaggle of his former directors will tell you, there is nothing illegal in EBTs, it’s the undeclared second contracts the football authorities have a problem with. Juninho’s EBT was not subject to any contract or side letter whatsoever. Moreover, our then chairman, Brian Quinn, regarded EBTs with suspicion and instructed the club to declare Juninho’s to the Revenue. Celtic even paid tax on money paid to the EBT.
The SFA and SPL, and every journalist in Scotland interested in getting a story right, are fully aware of the facts.
I suppose running with this beats looking at links between Green and Whyte. Keep up the good work, guys!
And for the record, stripping titles is not the ultimate sanction, not by the length of Argyle St.
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I always thought that Robert Vaughn died unnecessarily painfully in the Magnificent 7 with his face sliding down a stone wall. Couldn’t have been good for his skin.
Fin75 on 7 August, 2012 at 11:58 said:
really? harsh? Does McCourt honestly look to you like somebody who has been training with a Club like Celtic for 2 years? He is incapable of performing for more than about 30 minutes. I have also rarely seen him make a tackle, and his work off the ball is poor.
dont
Tuesday nites apron night. Bad planning me thinks??
LuxCelt on 7 August, 2012 at 11:59 said:
There should always be room in a team for real football players…. and by god Paddy is one of those.
“We can either field a team of paddy mccourt/niall mcginn/james forrest/gary hooper type players, and continue to be embarassed by norwich-sunderland-swansea-wolves etc.”
Eh? Embarassed? Not sure where you are coming from?
If we can fit Cris Commons into the team I don’t see why Paddy can’t get in…
And to clairfy Commons is not an “athlete” …
Wunner if show me ur title deeds broon will turn up?
ScotPatsFan on 7 August, 2012 at 11:41 said:
‘Ernie/Sparkleghirl
The way I read BRTH’s post yesterday evening regarding the Trust, was that the liquidators of OldRfc could go after the money ‘loaned’ to the players/staff and it would be given to the creditors.
It was something to do with the fact that as it was the director’s of OldRfc who put the money into the trust KNOWING that it would be used fraudulently, the Trust loses any hold it has over any monies recovered.’
That’s pushing the envelope a bit too far.
I can’t see BDO going down that route.
A more likely scenario is that they establish that the huns traded whilst insolvent (ie their liabilities exceeded their assets, so fairly easy to show once you strip out the imaginary valuations in the balance sheet) and therefore go after the directors on a personal basis.
LuxCelt on 7 August, 2012 at 12:02 said:
How should someone look after training with the hoops for 2 years? Charlie Atlas?
You are way off the the mark……are you jealous of the Derry Pele?Did you play him once and he nutmegged you repeatedly?
Are the Brownlees Scottish?
Re: McLeish.
Unaffectionately know as “The Gecko” in our house. On account of his disgusting habit of poking his tongue out and licking his near non-existent lips every half a second.
Fin75 on 7 August, 2012 at 12:03 said:
LuxCelt on 7 August, 2012 at 11:59 said:
Eh? Embarassed? Not sure where you are coming from?
– > We were athletically inferior to all of those teams – I found that embarassing coming from a Club of celtic’s size. You may not have been.
We were beaten by all of them as well (albeit in friendly games) but it was the manner in which we lost – ie – an inability to match up physically which annoyed me. The fact that the SPL season starts earlier and so our players should be ahead in their physical preparation – I find embarassing. As I say – it may not bother you.
You know – I’ve been in some towns where the girls weren’t all that pretty. In fact I’ve been in some towns where they’re downright ugly. But it’s the first time I’ve been in a town where there are no girls at all, ‘cept little ones. You know if we’re not careful we could have quite a social life here.
jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on 7 August, 2012 at 12:03 said:
Wunner if show me ur title deeds broon will turn up?
I’d love there to be a half-time fracas, bomber to snatch the mike from Cameron and plead with the 20000k that don’t have work tomorrow to back him……delicious
kdc on 7 August, 2012 at 11:07 said:
………………Forster…..…
Matthews..Wilson….mulgrew…izzy
…………Brown…Vic…Super Joe…….
Forrest……………………………..Commons
……………….hooper
Love that team mate. perfect in fact. Kayal if broonie isn’t fit.
I hope lenny is watching.
Brownlees from Yorkshire. Brownlie is Irish/Scottish I believe!
glasgowghirl
Being the ghentlemhan I am,thank you.
As much as I love Paddy, if it’s a choice between playing him or Commons in a game where we need goals – it’s got to be Commons, for the simple reason that he isn’t afraid to have a dig, and is rather good at it.
If we want to keep hold of the ball, give it to Paddy. He gives it away now and then, but he has usually edged his way in to the opposition box by then.
bournesouprecipe on 7 August, 2012 at 10:50 said:
Bought at coffee from a burger van at the gazebo on Saturday didn’t look at the change, but I’ve just noticed the FIver was Bank of Ireland!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*storms away in huff CSC*
Bourne,
If it says Belfast on it , its legal tender…
if you can not get it accepted … I have some magic beans that I will swap
The Onlooker
LuxCelt on 7 August, 2012 at 12:02 said:
How lond did the holy goalie and big bad John Hartson train and play with us?
Did they look like Charlie Atlas? No..
Did they do an amazing job? Yes..
What about our current manager Lenny? Did he look like an athlete of olympic proportions?
Exaclty – NAW.
You argument is starting falter….just like a poorly trained athlete. What type of preparation did you do before you came on CQN?
Fin75 on 7 August, 2012 at 12:05 said:
You are way off the the mark……are you jealous of the Derry Pele?Did you play him once and he nutmegged you repeatedly?
yeah that’s right. he did, and I came on the internet to complain about it. As I pointed out – the market will indicate whether or not he is a good player in the wider world. I reckon we will get about 600k for him which indicates that most big clubs reckon he is dross. Nutmegging guys from St mirren isn’t really all that is required. It might have been ok back in the 80s, but things have changed.
kdc,
Brown and Forrest should not be on the same park, unless Forrest is out left.
ASonOfDan on 7 August, 2012 at 11:35 said:
Pat Fenlon must be a good bet to get sacked. Challenging your players to stand up and be counted after one game, means you are in soapy bubbble…
Still can’t believe hubs gave him job, only won trophIes in Ireland cause he managed the 2 big spenders at the time. Came to Derry and with a lot smaller budget couldn’t hack it and was gone.
Ex dunfermline manager and current shamrock rovers manager Stephen Lenny is twice the manager in my opinion.
Chris: There’s a job for six men, watching over a village, south of the border.
O’Reilly: How big’s the opposition?
Chris: Thirty guns.
O’Reilly: I admire your notion of fair odds, mister.
Bernardo O’Reilly CSC
Vinibhoy – Named Neil Lennon on his birth certificate on 7 August, 2012 at 12:09 said:
agreed, kayal if brown doesn’t make it
LuxCelt on 7 August, 2012 at 12:11 said:
We only paid £600k for Henke…..we wur robbed a tell yae!!
The Onlooker
Ha – thanks, think I’ll keep it as a souvenir.
HH
LuxCelt on 7 August, 2012 at 12:11 said:
£300k for Lubo….robbed again
“The Old Man was right. Only the farmers won. We lost. We always lose.”
LuxCelt on 7 August, 2012 at 12:11 said:
£50k for the athlete Agathe…..now there was a player but he must have been dross with that price!!
Fin75 on 7 August, 2012 at 12:11 said:
You really have missed the point – almost all of MON’s team had 1 (or more) physical attributes where they excelled. This was continued in his teams at Villa and Sunderland. from Agathe’s sheer speed, to Mjallby Baldé and Hartson’s physical strength, to Alan Thompson’s robust physicality, to Petrov’s box-to-box stamina – most of them were well above the norm in one way or another. neil lennnon didn’t, but most of the others did.
The fact that you are going on about ‘Charlie Atlas’ suggests you are stuck in a bit of a timewarp, or are just very old. either way, the sport has moved on. Thumbsup.
The Brownlees?
Is that thon twins at the Olympics?
If it is,their from the ole Bradistan area,Bingley I think and definately attended Bradford Grammar.
If its not the twins were talking about I’m sure the Brownlees are the wee lassie version o’ the scouts.
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 7 August, 2012 at 12:11 said:
Brown and Forrest should not be on the same park, unless Forrest is out left.
Why?
Luscelt,
point of info, Paddy has been here 3 years, and his habits and application have changed completely, he is fitter than he’s ever been and it shows in his defensive game, how do you think he played against Inter Milan
kdc
Wee half time happy slap wae them 2 should raise a few bob!! o))))
LuxCelt on 7 August, 2012 at 12:16 said:
Not missed the point – you took cheap shots at Paddy.
I’ve voice my oinion that you are wrong….and any point you’ve made I’ve countered.
But keep trying, I’m sure you’ll find something eventually.
Bourne ,
Out of interest ,did it have Belfast printed on it, or is it an antique?
Onlooker
Fin75
You’re a shark :-)
Any pubs in ML3 showing the game tomorrow night?
The Magnificent 7
Ring! Ring! It’s 7:00 A.M.!
Move y’self to go again
Cold water in the face
Brings you back to this awful place
Knuckle merchants and you bankers, too
Must get up an’ learn those rules
Weather man and the crazy chief
One says sun and one says sleet
A.M., the F.M. the P.M. too
Churning out that boogaloo
Gets you up and gets you out
But how long can you keep it up?
Gimme Honda, Gimme Sony
So cheap and real phony
Hong Kong dollars and Indian cents
English pounds and Eskimo pence
You lot! What?
Don’t stop! Give it all you got!
You lot! What?
Don’t stop! Yeah!
Working for a rise, better my station
Take my baby to sophistication
She’s seen the ads, she thinks it’s nice
Better work hard – I seen the price
Never mind that it’s time for the bus
We got to work – an’ you’re one of us
Clocks go slow in a place of work
Minutes drag and the hours jerk
“When can I tell ’em wot I do?
In a second, maaan…oright Chuck!”
Wave bub-bub-bub-bye to the boss
It’s our profit, it’s his loss
But anyway lunch bells ring
Take one hour and do your thanng!
Cheeesboiger!
What do we have for entertainment?
Cops kickin’ Gypsies on the pavement
Now the news – snap to attention!
The lunar landing of the dentist convention
Italian mobster shoots a lobster
Seafood restaurant gets out of hand
A car in the fridge
Or a fridge in the car?
Like cowboys do – in T.V. land
You lot! What? Don’t stop. Huh?
So get back to work an’ sweat some more
The sun will sink an’ we’ll get out the door
It’s no good for man to work in cages
Hits the town, he drinks his wages
You’re frettin’, you’re sweatin’
But did you notice you ain’t gettin’ anywhere?
Don’t you ever stop long enough to start?
To take your car outta that gear
Don’t you ever stop long enough to start?
To get your car outta that gear
Karlo Marx and Fredrich Engels
Came to the checkout at the 7-11
Marx was skint – but he had sense
Engels lent him the necessary pence
What have we got? Yeh-o, magnificence!!
Luther King and Mahatma Gandhi
Went to the park to check on the game
But they was murdered by the other team
Who went on to win 50-nil
You can be true, you can be false
You’ll be given the same reward
Socrates and Milhous Nixon
Both went the same way – through the kitchen
Plato the Greek or Rin Tin Tin
Who’s more famous to the billion millions?
News Flash: Vacuum Cleaner Sucks Up Budgie
Oooohh…bub-bye
Magnificence!!
jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on 7 August, 2012 at 12:18 said:
Did I miss something, was there some argy barg?