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We are all looking forward to big changes in the football department.  Players, manager, coaches and scouts will arrive at Lennoxtown in the coming months with the specific aim of improving the performance of the football department.

Such change brings risks, but just to the culture of the club, which is up for renewal every week and saw plenty of change in the autumn, but to the stock of corporate knowledge.  One of the failings of John Barnes short-lived experience was his failure to understand the risks when visiting places like Tannadice.  Some travel north thinking it will be all too easy, remember Joey Barton, who was nutmegged at Ibrox during a defeat to Hamilton Accies.

If today’s story on John Kennedy being promoted to work with Eddie Howe is true, he will add a couple of decade’s experience of how Scottish football works to the new management team.  I also hear Eddie was impressed by John.  Of course, sticking it to them on Sunday will not do any harm.

 

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  1. Howe has been impressed with John ? I certainly haven’t. Sunday will once again see Brown picked ahead of Soro while we give the huns acres to run into when Brown is turned and can’t recover. Same old, same old.

  2. It certainly seems as though our search for new DoF has been exhaustive and in depth.

     

     

    Well done to all involved in scouring the footballing globe.

     

    Excellent imagination and bravery shown as ever.

  3. UNCLE JIMMY on 29TH APRIL 2021 1:39 PM

     

    It certainly seems as though our search for new DoF has been exhaustive and in depth.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Well done to all involved in scouring the footballing globe.

     

     

     

     

    Excellent imagination and bravery shown as ever.

     

     

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    On a par with sourcing the new CEO. Didn’t even have to leave the building.

  4. quadrophenian on

    Small fly in the ointment Paul re this point…

     

    ‘…failure to understand the risks when visiting places like Tannadice.’ Really??

     

     

    If Eddie Howe is as savvy as we desperately all want him to be, he’s well aware of a Tannadice-like trap.

     

     

    After all, isn’t his EPL experience built on managing the Dundee Utd of the south coast, and springing surprises on big guns of the EPL? Crissakes – if he’s not up to outsmarting the tangerines, what will he do when facing some of these wee Euro sides we encounter in the quallies.

     

    And this unswerving loyalty to a bloke party to the most disastrous squibbing of fitba immortality is irrational if not perverse. For eg, how many clubs are courting our coaching/managerial incumbent as we speak?

     

    Any? None?

     

     

    ANGELGABRIEL exactly – ‘When was the last time Celtic PLC aspired for Celtic FC to be the best we can possibly be in every football decision ???’

     

     

    NOTTHEBUS – Chaz Mulgrew just sang the coaching praises of Joey Barton – mibby he’s available too?

  5. Bobby Murdochs Ankle supportin Oscar Knox on

    On the previous topic, good to hear from ACGR, Mick, what do you really think………

     

    Hope yer well brother.

     

     

    BMA

  6. CaddingtonCommon on

    News of JK and Sevco’s multi million CL money is nothing more than SMSM drivel.

     

     

    Why do people believe this tosh?

  7. Not sure what kind of role JK would fill, but if a new manager is bringing in a completely new management team, it would seem sensible to keep someone around who understands the way the club operates and the environment we play in. It would be foolish to think everything can be turned upside down and expect an immediate change in fortunes.

  8. Caddington

     

     

    Would you class CQN as part of the SMSM?

     

    I’m pretty sure I read the John Kennedy story on there.

  9. The Ghood will prevail on

    Long-time lurker here, but I feel compelled to respond to Paul’s latest. Sad to say I generally skip the actual articles on this blog these days, because they annoy me as they never critique the board or chief exec, never disagree with any action they take. It’s as though they are perfect, which recent catastrophes would seem to belie. Anyway, today I broke my rule.

     

    John Kennedy is not qualified or sufficiently experienced to become a director of football at our club or any other. Perhaps that’s the point – perhaps other people who see themselves as more qualified will continue to pull the strings. If that is the case, we can expect a continuation of the disastrous policies of signing dud ‘projects’ and messing up the signings of players who the manager actually wants. If that is the case, then it will only be a matter of time before Eddie Howe, or whoever the next manager is, gets fed up and heads for the exit. Celtic need a complete change of direction from this costly strategy, we need to make progress in Europe as our benchmark and be run as a modern footballing operation by people with expertise. If this change comes at the cost of someone’s egotistical need to control, then so be it.

     

    I wish JK all the best, but as other posters have suggested, perhaps it’s time for him to develop his coaching/managerial career elsewhere. If he proves himself, then he’d be a future candidate for employ at Celtic. The Celtic supporters deserve so much more than another shower room appointment after what we’ve had to endure of late. The argument that John knows the Scottish game and therefore would make a good DoF is desperate. There are plenty of people who can fill a future manager in on what to expect at Tannadice or anywhere else. The ongoing delay in appointing a manager, and the contemptuous failure to make any communication with the supporters suggests that Celtic are run by people who are not fit for purpose. The appointment of John Kennedy as DoF would only further confirm this.

  10. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    True, Paul – John Barnes didn’t have experience of Scottish football. Then again neither did Martin O’Neill or Brendan Rodgers and they didn’t do too badly.

     

    Maybe getting a quality manager is more important……….

  11. CADDINGTONCOMMON on 29TH APRIL 2021 1:48 PM

     

    News of JK and Sevco’s multi million CL money is nothing more than SMSM drivel.

     

     

    Why do people believe this tosh?

     

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    What tosh?

     

     

    That John Kennedy might be DoF?

     

    We are not ‘in the know’ – so no one knows if it’s “tosh, or, not.

     

     

    Is discussing the prospective strengths of your main (only) opposition tosh? Perhaps we should have done it more assiduously at the end of last season – we had from March to August to do so.

  12. Paul The Spark on

    JK had an opportunity to get a win at tannadice and failed. If our new manager needs his advice then we are definitely looking at the wrong candidate.

  13. MNCELT

     

     

    Exactly

     

     

    Wenger is one of the more intelligent men to have been involved in managing and coaching football. He says in his book, in his experience its essential that when a new football management team comes in that there’s continuity there, one person or several people who understand the culture of the club and the environment that he club play in.

     

     

    The new manager is, almost certainly, coming to a new league with a new chief exec, a new director of football and a new captain, he won’t have the two seasons that the ibrox super team had to turn their into the 1 in 9 winners that they are. Little time to acclimatize to the “unique” challenges of managing Celtic, he’ll need to win from the off (which I’m hoping explains why we might only get someone in after the final derby game).

     

     

    Simply put he’ll need someone with the experience he’ll eventually pick up himself. He’ll have too much on his plate and be surrounded by people who are also learning the ropes

  14. If Eddie Howe or any others who have been talked to ,contact BR and he is truthful i think you would want a big say in how the team is run.

     

    If John Kennedy is being considered then there is more things wrong at our club than we first thought.

  15. CELTIC40ME on 29TH APRIL 2021 2:13 PM

     

     

    I agree with the main points in your post. John Kennedy is being blamed for our horrendous season because he’s the last man standing.

     

     

    My contention is that it is the players who have, and continue to, let us down badly. If that is the case then it is no surprise that JK has not miraculously turned things around since NL left.

  16. Eddie Howe was impressed with John Kennedy.

     

     

    Really. Couldn’t make it up.

     

     

    THE GHOOD WILL PREVAIL

     

    Stop speaking too much sense

  17. prestonpans bhoys on

    Not overly concerned if JK stays although that depends on the position, the word promotion frightens me😵😱

  18. JHB on 29TH APRIL 2021 2:27 PM

     

     

    I’m not interested in who’s to blame anymore. I’d rather look forward.

  19. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    “Jesse Marsch to replace Julian Nagelsmann at RB Leipzig”

     

     

    This guy is about to undertake his 4th job in 6 years across 3 clubs.

     

     

    During which he has worked for just ONE organisation.

     

     

    Something far wrong with modern football.

     

     

    Hail hail

     

     

    Keep The Faith

     

     

    We’re Not Half of Anything

  20. JHB on 29TH APRIL 2021 2:27 PM

     

     

    ‘If that is the case then it is no surprise that JK has not miraculously turned things around since NL left.’

     

     

    Or could it be that JK already had a material input into players and tactics and therefore whilst NL has gone nothing has really changed ???

  21. hairlikespaghetti @ 3:41 am

     

     

    “Most on here keep their politics private, as it should be, however a sizeable few from opposing sides, (including our host) seem to view this, and any election, as a rerun of the referendum, and seem happy to use the blog to force their views on all of us…again.”

     

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    It’s a popular view but has the unfortunate defect of being completely untrue. Everyone on here reveals their politics sooner or later, whether party political or ideological.

     

     

    I am glad that you are choosing to exercise your vote but concerned that it was a reaaction to the ramblings of a Kev J post that prompted that positive outcome. KevJ is well know for his tabloid apprach to facts, a hero worshipper of Hugh Keevins, and will love it that someone was “suckered” into believing his tosh.

     

     

    KevJ’s politics are as coherent as an episode of Loose Women.

  22. CELTIC40ME on 29TH APRIL 2021 2:38 PM

     

     

    I’m not interested in who’s to blame anymore. I’d rather look forward.

     

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    I’m sure we all do – problem is there is nothing tangible to latch on to presently.

     

     

    I think we need a Martin O’Neil type plan with all that entails, i.e. quality players brought in like Sutton, Hartson, Lennon & Valgaeren – in today’s money they would cost at least c£40m. To spend that kind of money after a substantial loss this season would mean incurring debt, bearing in mind that, in my opinion, there will be no full houses at CP next season….and there’s talk of a season ticket reduction.

     

     

    Will a top new manager come without spending assurances?

     

     

    Will a new CEO favour a ‘debt’ start to his tenure, and even if he does, will DD agree?

  23. What chances that Scott Brown is ” TARGETED” even more than usual by the Scum Huns on Sunday ?

     

     

    What odds on Scott Brown being Sent Aff on Sunday and/or injured badly by the Scum Huns ?

     

     

    HH.

  24. John Kennedy’s problem was the same as Neil Lennon’s and the same as the mythical manager we appointed after we lost to Ferencvaros.

     

     

    Silk purse from a sow’s ear, an that.

     

     

    The squad is shot, and just got worse, the longer the season went on. A January window wasn’t an option to save the lost ten, and there were no development games, never mind players, from where mystery manager could pluck a team and reformat them into a winning Celtic side already well behind, due to many factors.

     

     

    Sadly IMO Kennedy very quickly proved this, without making a dent in team selection, system tactics, training regimes, or even substitutions. If the appointment of Eddie Howe goes ahead as now seems likely, it doesn’t matter to him, so shouldn’t to us, as he’s the new man, whom like Brendan Rodgers ‘rated’ JK and still picked up his gazillions salary.

  25. celtic1member1vote on

    Over 700 Celtic fans watched a brilliant live video session last night hosted by A Celtic State of Mind with numerous Celtic fan social media sites, together with the Celtic Trust and Celtic Shared to discuss the Celtic Trust Shares for Value Proposal given to the Celtic board.

     

     

    The Video session is still available to watch via A Celtic State of Mind for anyone that’s interested thanks.

  26. Timmy7@ 8.11am

     

     

    “I’ve never posted anything political on this site other than in response to the Unionist cabal and their sectarian attacks on the ordinary people of Scotland. ”

     

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    The narrative that “they started it” does not stand up to scrutiny. Neither ernie nor the more dubious JHB started the political comment yesterday. In fact, ernie lynch rarely introduces politics to the blog. In most cases, it is he who does the responding (I grant you that this does not apply to JHB).

     

     

    One of the problems we see is that previous pro-Independence or pro SNP posts are not seen as political. They are seen as the natural posion for Rebel Celts to hold (even though our forefathers did not see it this way in the first 100 years of our existence; voting SNP is the new Ploughman’s Lunch, an invented tradition).

     

     

    By classifying the posts of people with similar views to yourself as non-political, you are able to present “Unionist” posts as the unwanted political viewpoint, intruding on your non-political common-sense shared outlook. You can then deduce that this is a pro-Union blog so that you can place yourself in victimhod ground. I am confident that any ballot of posters here would produce a huge majority vote in favour of Independence for Scotland and reveal a sizeable majority prepared to vote SNP without much nose-holding.

     

     

    There are only a small minority of non-SNP supporters on here, and a couple of them are, I believe, false flag posters designed to re-inforce SNP views by presenting a caricature of Labour Party views. I do acknowledge that it is easier to present proLabour or anti-SNP views on CQN than on most other platforms but your last post suggesting that it would only be pro-Union posters talking to each other would leave us with close to a dozen posters by my reckoning.

     

     

    The sadness is that these views receive greater levels of intolerance elsewhere in the Celtic Blogosphere and there is a more legitimate claim to victimhood to be had on behalf of those views. I am resilient enough not to make the claim, mind, but it would have more truth than your claim.

     

     

    The idea that SNP/Independence views are suppressed or in a minority on here is laughable. With the majority viewpoint in your favour, why are your lot not more resilient? It is a sign of a fairly fragile confidence to seek the modern popular position of victimhood. You may be being held to account on CQN but the idea that you are in a minority or not tolerated is beyond belief.

  27. I agree with both Celtic By Numners and Tiny Tim on the John Kennedy issue.

     

     

    He has proved himself as a promising young coach in the short time he has had in charge. He speaks well and carries himself well and is tough enough not to respond to the ill-founded criticism from those who have never seen him work.

     

     

    It would be good to keep John on at CP but…………… in some coaching role which is where his proven strength is. Unfortubately, you can never prove yourself to the Celtic support as an assistant or youth coach these days. The bootroom succession of Shankly to Paisley is not modern enough for us- we want new bling- preferably with a foreign name.

     

     

    John will eventually have to leave in order to prove himself fully. I hope he will do so eventually and come back to us as an accepted promising coach but it would be valuable to have him here for next season- just not as DoF- which is a job for an older manager with more of a contact book than John will have developed by now.

  28. Settingfreethe bears 28 April @ 5.16

     

     

    Sorry to be so late in getting back to you.

     

     

    My source was the essay “ War, Empire and the Atlee Government 1945-51” by John Newsinger:

     

     

    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0306396818779864

     

     

    This lists all the Atlee government’s support for US wars and its own colonial interventions: Indochina (Before handing it over to the French), Indonesia, Greece (Royalist restoration), Malaya, Kenya, Palestine, Iran; endorsing the use of the atom bomb against Japan; and of course the Korean war, which you mentioned.

     

    You seem to think that the killing of millions of Koreans (roughly 20% of the population of N. Korea were killed) was OK because of a “murderous communist invasion”, i.e. an “invasion” of Korea by Koreans. That may not even be true, as some South Korean research suggests it was South Koreans who first invaded the North:

     

     

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/jan/18/johngittings.martinkettle

     

     

    You say that the Left in the UK has always been anti-colonial. That depends on what you mean by the Left. A small minority of the Labour Party was anti-colonial and anti-war, while the vast majority has cherished the Empire. Blair’s war was not an aberration. It was in the tradition of the 1930 Labour government’s brutal repression in India and its post-war record. Gordon Brown has said there is nothing to apologise for. Only Jeremy Corbyn apologized to the people of Iraq and he had opposed the war. Now Labour is doing everything it can to make him a non-person.

     

    You seem to want to distract from all this by criticizing the SNP. I suppose you are assuming I am an SNP supporter. I have never voted for them and never would. Anyway they are not so different from Labour: both pro-EU and pro-NATO, though I think Labour has now dropped its opposition to Trident (?) whereas the SNP holds the contradictory position of being against Trident but pro-NATO. Both parties are pro-monarchy too.

     

    However, I think you’re right about Sturgeon and co. not being in a hurry to get independence (unlike the Salmond faction). They have nice careers.

  29. As I said last blog,I have no idea what JK is like as a Coach,Manager,DOF,and neither does anyone on here.What I do know is what NotThe Bus posted earlier,Brendan Rodgers,Damien Duff,WGS,all wax lyrical about his qualities,and I would take their opinions much more than people on here,no disrespect.

     

    Do I want him as DOF.No,but not because of some rubbish that he is part of the team that let us down last year.If that was the benchmark,what about the 9 years before.He was part of the Quad Treble,does that not count?Some peoples logic baffles me.

  30. If Eddie Howe was coming he would surely be here by now.

     

    Or is he trying to make a tough job absolutely impossible?

     

    Wherever he ends up i’m sure he won’t be sending for John Kennedy.

     

    As I have said before, and someone said earlier, I believe the new

     

    man is currently in a job. Everything we are reading is just ar*e

     

    gravy of the highest order.

  31. Peter Grant is well equipped to watch out for “Nightmares on Tannadice”. Today, the editors of “that paper”, can sit back and have a right good old chuckle to themselves knowing they have the whole of the Celtic Blogsphere up in arms about something that was tweeted by an unknown individual, to create some retweets and new followers. For further details on this, tune into Radio Clyde Super Scoreboard and BBC Sportsound, it is bound to be the lead, as they look at how much interest it has created, look, me as well :)) Little wonder we end up with the politicians & Governments that we have, por cierto.

  32. Anyway,in the Record tomorrow

     

    CELTIC SNUBBED ONCE AGAIN IN THEIR HUNT FOR NEW DOF

     

     

    Celtic interim manager,John Kennedy,has sensationally turned down the chance to be the new DOF,of Celtic.He has joined the ranks of numerous big names to snub a variety of vacancies at the club,ranging from Head Coach,to Tea Lady.Just where that leaves Celtic,is anyone’s guess now.

  33. JHB on 29TH APRIL 2021 3:14 PM

     

     

    I can only speak for myself but, despite my best efforts I’m not fearful. I don’t need something “tangible” to look forward with optimism.

     

     

    What’s with the obsession with debt? First, it’s the mythical “debt-free” status of the Huns, now it’s the need to put us in dangerous levels of it so we can challenge a team that’s a basket case financially and has won 1 trophy out of 3 under the present coach and 1 in its history?

     

     

    The debt model is on its way out in football in general, and in Scotland was finished a long time ago. We were ahead of the curve in 2004 – It did for Rangers, it’ll do for the zombies if they don’t sort themselves out.

     

     

    Fingers crossed we’ll be able to attract a decent manager. If it’s Howe it’s a bit of a coup, probably the highest profile of anyone to either club without an emotional attachment since Hiddink nearly came over 20 years ago.

     

     

    It certainly would be a reason for optimism don’t you agree?