In his Q&A session with the Daily Record yesterday, outgoing SPFL chairman, Ralph Topping touched on the subject of who knew what when, regarding Rangers slide into liquidation saying:
“There wasn’t one single person ever who envisaged this case happening. You tell me who pointed out that this was going to happen – did you?
“The biggest assumption about the set-up in the SPL would be that you would have Rangers and Celtic playing in it in perpetuity – nobody thought that those two bastions of football would ever be involved in anything like this and nobody flagged it up.”
Well, in October 2011 I knew. This CQN article from 27 October 2011 notes in very specific detail Rangers were going to liquidate, a phoenix would be created which wanted direct access to the SPL (the top flight at that time). I got the timing wrong, predicting the phoenix would take place during the season, but to be fair, it later became clear this was Craig Whyte’s plan at the time.
Ralph Topping’s SPL knew too. Rangers alerted them to the situation that very month. The SPL spend November, December and January preparing the ground for Rangers administration and liquidation, a period during which a new TV deal was signed.
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Podium
BSR
Maybe the PLC will announce the end of WW1 tomorrow:)
HH
Auldheid
You asked shareholders and fans to write to Celtic when the verdict of the SC was known, I said at the time I would not be doing so, however I changed my mind so I have written to PL post SFA and SPFL statements, I felt it was the least I could do for you and the other people involved in Res 12,I am aware it is not about a single issue like Res12 but thought it the correct thing to do at this time. I have not had a reply incidentally.
Hopefully, I’ll only miss a few games. Confirmation of cancellation just received from WorldPay.com.
“Good Evening,
Would you please confirm receipt of the message which I sent earlier this evening, via the “Contact Us” page on the Celtic TV website, informing you that I do not wish to renew my Celtic TV subscription?
According to the information given on the “My Account” page, payment is due on the 4th of August.
I’ve been a subscriber to Celtic TV since 2006, but I have reluctantly decided to take this step, as I am bitterly disappointed by the Board’s response to the evident corruption in Scottish Football, and its seeming unwillingness to recognise the genuine deep-felt feelings of anger and frustration within the Celtic support.
Please respond to confirm that you will not take payment from my **** Visa Account.
Should the Board’s position change, the I will be happy to renew my financial support from abroad.
Regards,
NCB
TSOAL
6.32pm
Is that a Wishae podium :-)
North Cyprus Bhoy
Good post.
That is the only way imo.
HH
Does the 5 Way Agreement include some of the signatories undertaking to indemnify some of the other signatories.?
Bada 6.29pm
There has been loads of posts calling out the board for double standards statements about the GB and rule breaking but heehaw about the cheats
Apply the rules – Celtic don’t make the rules but if the GB /Eufa rules have to be abided so does “improper registrations” paying players “off the books” by the way not paying income tax is actually criminal, VAT not criminal, but income tax breaks their Majesteys laws :-)
North Cyprus Bhoy,
Last year, I wrote a similar letter to Cetlic, cancelling my subscription. Below is the response I received from JPT.
two things stood out for me. One, JPT says that Celtic will speak out when it is proved that Celtic have been disadvantaged. Well, there has been evidence of that for some time, but nothing has been done. Secondly, given that I had not raised the isssue of collusion, but only stated that I would not be back until Celtic, at least, spoke out on the issues, the issue of collusion is one that JPT raised. Wonder why that would be?
“Thank you for your email, it is of course very disappointing to note, in terms of Res 12 Celtic has been on this since 2011, prior to any other groups. Celtic has fully assisted the requisitioners in every way it could and continues to. In terms of the details all I can say is this, Celtic holds the principles of fair play dearly and will take action on any occasion where it is proved our Club has been disadvantaged. There has been no collusion or any efforts to assist any of our competitors in any way at any time.
Celtic work independently and only in the interests of Celtic and our supporters. This has always been the case and will continue to be.
Best regards
John Paul”
Bada – The public gets what the public wants.
Should be entertaining if anything.
I’ll definitely be buying and staying up to watch the fight, if God spares me.
Can’t knock Conor McGregor’s meteoric climb to the top of the world, always took care of the wee Beal Feirste boxers along the way.
HH.
Gerry- i questioned at the time, why was Whyte not lifted for non payment/theft (allegedly), of tax and NI?
Auldheid,
Where there is a will there is a way. Don’t let them bury this in paper. They’ll put this into a review cycle that will try the patience of a saint.
Alphonse Gabriel Capone downfall was undeclared income to the tax authorities. Upon Al Capone’s arrival at prison he was diagnosed with a number of illness.
The moral of the story is keep it simple I suppose.
GFTB,
If I was in the Plc I’d be looking at increasing our exposure to the Islamic market. Plenty of potential supporters there.
I’ve had similar experiences with the Sevco mob.
They aren’t blessed with bravery.
I hope the family are well. I saw Grace Gifford’s cell in Kilmainham a few weeks ago.
Bada,
I hope so too. If the boy is ok, let’s see if it’s another NFA? Watch this space.
Duty Calls
HH
Bada 6.54pm
It’s a mystery, VAT is not criminal, not sure why but like you I wondered how wee Craighy got away with the tax & NI, back then it was well known he was a liquidation expert, HMRC should have gave him a job :-)
If I owned one of those Warehouses ABC Ltd then opened up as CBA Ltd with the same owner/directors that HMRC pursued I can never understand how the Phoenixism situation was never followed through
MIT
In the first of the Q&As organised on here with John Paul Taylor, I sent in this question:
Same Club
“Will Celtic, as a member club, object to the SPFL official website listing a current member club, calling itself Rangers, as being founded in 1872, and having won over 100 honours, including 54 top tier titles, thus backing claims from said club that it is Scotland’s most successful, despite it being just over four years old? If not, why not?”
The question wasn’t answered, but. . . .
“It was reiterated that the lack of detailed answers were nothing more than the Club wanting to ensure that the content and timing of the responses to these issues were made to the appropriate people at the appropriate time. This is to ensure that issues are effectively dealt with to provide the best outcome possible for the Club.”
The ‘appropriate’ time was generally agreed on here to be when all the court cases had come to an end. So, whenever you’re ready, John Paul!
Clogher 18.59pm
All good herehope likewise with you and the family
Kilmainham gaol is a place I would love to visit but also would find it scary to be there, we are thinking of a wee trip over the water 2019, Letterkenny being where we will be based but would love to visit a few places all over the island
MiT
By the way, TET wants to know if Karma’s a wummin’, after I mentioned ‘the Karma guy’ earlier.
You’re the go Tao guy on this, so help us out!
Very simple, but please please , Paddy come back.
KINGLuBO
Kinglubo
Any “big” signing (and Paddy is a big signing) will be dependant on our CL status
Roll on Wednesday
Paul67 et al
Celtic were ‘surprised’ at the conclusions of the LNS Commission.
We tabled Resolution 12.
Following the decision by the Supreme Court, re Rangers FC, we have called for a review.
Er…….that’s it
rebelstothecorecsc
Beatbhoy ….
remember, it is neither the cup, nor the water, nor the space that contains the water… and it is also and simultaneously, all of these …. that is Tao
For an introduction to Tao, I defer to the Great thinker, Winnie the Pooh …. may I suggest you have a quick look at the Tao of Pooh by Benjamin Hoff … all of Tao/life’s great lessons explained by reference to Winnie the Pooh stories! Seriously… it is brilliant! One of my favourite books….
:)
Celtic Mac
Maybe the CQN Silence Steering Committee will run a Jumble Sale to get funds to send a really, really long letter of complaint:)
HH
Comedy Gold
Big daftie Derek on SSB
“It only took Dorrans 6mins to get booked against Marseille, we have been missing that”
Stupid, stupid Huns
By the way beware Pedro now has structure ?????
Celtic board sort yourself out so we can enjoy the Huns misery :-)
GFTB @ 7:32
“Celtic board sort yourself out so we can enjoy the Huns misery :-)”
well said!
The Celtic Board fight against Corruption: PL dressed as Father Ted holding a placard saying ‘Down With This Sort of Thing’:)
HH
Kinglubo- Paddy and Caulker would be brilliant, we have the money , need to get rid of a few though
Trump sacks Scaramucci, The Apprentice going to a whole new level over there…
The Green Man
Much as I would like to share Auldheid’s optimistic view, barring evidence to the contrary, I cannot see a just resolution in sight. The concerted actions of both the SFA and the SPFL then and now re NFA will almost certainly lead to some kind of review. The results of which will be; “Lessons have been learned”.
MIT
Am gutted the way our board are acting, I think Peter Lawell is a very good CEO but for me he lets himself down with treatment of the fans, Celtic is ours not the suits
Maybe its our DNA to shoot ourselves in the foot
By the way I am no board apologist (rich Celtic fans are far removed from me :-)
evening all
Invincibles about to start on sky sports
wee bonus in my mam sitting duties:))))
Celtic Mac
I agree. Unless Celtic supporters take action, nothing will be done.
You cant trust the PLC.
Money is the God for all the cheating teams, Celtic supporters should refuse to fund their enemies imo.
HH
Leftclicktic 8pm
Give her a hug from ML5 (the good side :-)
GFTB
will do that’s me in ML4 till next Tuesday.
MiT
Sounds interesting, bud, ah!
Got an Amazon gift voucher somewhere, I’ll give it a go.
“Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon and the truth”
Tao true, mate!
The Green Man
Ideally we would want all of the clubs to support a common position but again no evidence that that is the case. Or if there is a common position is it based on NFA? Celtic included.
Leftclicktic
ML4 all of a sudden Shawhead isn’t that bad :-)
All kidding aside enjoy the “mam” duties when they are no longer here you will love this time (even in ML4 :-)
Hope the wee mhan is still keeping you on your toes
If I were Pedro, I would start a proper newspaper, a paper that tells it like it is, a paper where Celtic supporters can can get the truth, a paper where there is honest opinion, a paper where there are no lies printed, a paper where there is no agenda, I reckon it would do Ok.
Rags like the record are losing readers daily, there is a market out there, for all social media is gathering momentum, it’s still miles away for having the megaphone,
I was preparing a bedroom which was damaged by an overflow for a plasterer to come tomorrow and put on Clyde on the radio.
Beat the pundit question to a Rangers fan.”which country do Aberdeen’s European opponents Appolon Limassol come from?”
His answer. …”Saudi Arabia “
See this “all the other club stuff” they hate Celtic as much as the cheats, for the “neutrals” the status quo suits as they probably hate Celtic more if not as equal as the cheats, stuff the other clubs just apply the rules
Peter Lawell “we don’t make the rules we have to abide by them” the other clubs don’t care
Improper registrations 0-3 every game just stick to the rules, we don’t make the rules :-)