If/when minds at Celtic get around to considering a replacement for Alan Thompson it would also be wise to recognise the international nature of the game. Lennon, Mjallby, Parker and Thompson were all football sons of Martin O’Neill, rooted in the domestic tradition of the game (even the Swede).
Football philosophy drifts slowly between national boundaries carried by successful coaches and players. Right now the ambitious teams in the world are trying to ape the Barcelona/Spain model, the success of which is hard to argue with, but whether we look for a Spanish influence or not, we must surely look for a voice to challenge what the current management team regard as orthodoxy, in all aspects of the job.
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Lenny & Thommo Noon Showdown @ The Whitley Bay Corral
One of the greatest westerns of all time.
The old ones are the best, and I mean that in many senses.
And it’s a goodnight from me….
Estadio on 5 June, 2012 at 23:54 said:
I will do my best to keep breathing until 2084 then.
Even IF it had been visible from here it wouldn’t have been, if you get my drift. Awoke to thick sea fog for 2nd day running, like being in the clouds.
Re the 93M – are there rumours (again) that the BTC result is out?
Picked up a comment through the night from Bada Bing about Sutton’s eye injury happening while he was at Villa.
I think it happened when he was playing against Artmedia away when he fell onto Lenny’s knee. He was taken off at the time and never really recovered from that – how often did Chris play that season?
MON signed him on a pay for play deal because of the injury and Chris left after a short period because of double vision in the eye, I think.
Maybe WGS and Chris would not have got on but I do think that injury was a key element to the end of Chris’s career in football never mind Celtic.
HH
Beechbhoy
One of the great joys of living in Denia is that in the summer months so many women walk about in the tiniest of shorts and mini skirts to show off their tanned legs and midriffs. Spanish, French, Swiss, German, Dutch, Russians, Poles . . . they are all at it.
One of the great challenges of living in Denia in the summer is seeing all this without the wife seeing me seeing them.
Deniabhoy I can imagine, while in cold and rainy Scotland but don’t kid yourself – she’ll see you seeing them. In fact she is probably laughing at you looking while pretending you are not.
HH
Beechboy
Good morning all from a rainy, grey and pretty un-June-like East Kilbride. So, I wonder what the 6th of June will bring?
Morning all. Reading back on the WGS debate (thought he was great especially the way he dealt with the media btw) and a few posters mentioning the almost universal negativity towards Celtic exhibited by former players C Nic, Murdo, Provan, Walker etc.
Just wondering what the reason for this is. Is it just as simple that their employers pay them to say bad things about Celtic or is there some other explanation?
HH
SIALF
Beechboy – of course she knows I’m looking, as much as I pretend I’m not distracted she pretends to be oblivious to it. Funny thing is, loads of guys are checking her out at the same time.
Andy Williams got it right with “The boys watch the girls while the girls watch the boys who watch the girls go by”.
Good morning CQN from a wet Clydebank
Ally’s left in the dark well they should have paid their electricity bills
Keep the Faith
Hail Hail
The WGS debate just wont go away will it?
WGS did well in his time at Celtic, given the circumstances he inherited, the ageing squad and the need to drive down costs, and drive them down quickly WGS did very well in my opinion,
Yes there were disappointments, but there were disappointments with the prvious manager and the one before that, and the one before that…
WGS never misses an opportunity to talk up the Club AND its supporters, the love he has for our Club was by his own admission not something he had prior to taking on the job, it grew with the job and the people he worked with.
WGS does not deserve the crap thats aimed at him on this forum or others.
Mornin CQNrs
from a sligtly damp and occassionally wet Glasgow, thunder and lightening due over Hampden way.
HH
CELTIC OK.
Got a wee seat change yesterday…now over in 406. What a view.
Cheers Eamonn.
In which I suggest, I am sure wrongly, that Duff & Phelps cannot proofread and that the CVA Proposal might not therefore be entirely accurate.
According to the Rangers CVA Proposal produced by Duff & Phelps today is an important day in the process of saving this fine Scottish institution. In all that Duff & Phelps have produced so far, the CVA Proposal is perhaps the most important. This document needs to persuade the creditors of Rangers Football Club PLC, and especially Ticketus and HMRC, that the deal being offered by Mr Green whereby he lends Rangers just over £8 million to fund a CVA is the best deal for the creditors. I will number crunch in a later post, but it is clear that the paperwork produced in the CVA has to do the best job possible to persuade the creditors, and therefore will have been finely honed, edited, reviewed and polished, won’t it?
http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2012/06/06/charles-green-will-be-appointed-today-to-assist-running-rangers-or-maybe-he-wont/
Jobo Baldie
“Good morning all from a rainy, grey and pretty un-June-like East Kilbride. So, I wonder what the 6th of June will bring? ”
Me going away for 2 weeks in the South-East of Spain por cierto :>))
WGS
Last 16 twice
and 3 in a row ….
Who treated the LL with the contempt they deserved …?
Nuff said
Morning all from a dreich North Ayrshire.
I trust today will bring nothing but gloom down Govan way.
By the bye, imo, the reason why Walker and his ilk have such a down on us is quite obvious: their employers have taken the editorial decision that they are more dependent on the Govan pound than the Parkhead one.
Morning Celts, I see there are some early very early rumours that the big tax case has not gone well…
I don’t recognize the source so can’t trust it yet….
Chucking it down in the dreich Swiss summer…
Dreich evening in Sydney too.
Cold anaw.
The finance figures keep us warm,however.
Whither the cash-strapped scrofulous Hillbilies the day?
Morning all from gay Paree, cloudy with rain later (18C max.)
With the Scotland rugby guys beating Australia on their own patch, Andy Murray with a quarter-final in the French Open today, and the SFA with an important agenda involving the future of the game in Scotland, what’s the main story on the BBC Scotland site?
Yes, the major story of the moment, and for the second day running: Alan Thompson!
They really are hurting.
RFC(ia): Time to Pay the Wages of Sin
If Carlsberg did ole CQN debates it would involve The Ginger Helmsman wearin’ a poppy while beltin’ out ‘The Broad Black Brimmer’.
……while we’re on the subject of coaches…..If Neil feels he needs additional cover in this department I would welcome back the boul’ Kenny McDowall, late of this parish ( aka McDowally)……..I understand he was very well liked and respected while in Paradise, especially amongst the younger players.
…..another case of…” used to be a hun but he’s awrite nooo……Kenny, Kenny…”?
HH
Bonjour Sixtaeseven,
grey and damp in Glasgow.
Yes, they are hurting! :-)
Paul McC, I am sure the vast majority of readers, who are not tainted with blue, would recommend that RFF redirect their funds to the original destination. It would be far more useful there.
Brogan Rogan Trevino @BroganRoganTrev
This is brilliant. It would appear the Thai Tims have a message for the Daily Record re their standard of journalism. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJMFAhK2_eM
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bankiebhoy1 on 6 June, 2012 at 08:50 said:
You`re probably right,HOWEVER……………..
He used to be a Tim who used to be a hun who is now beyond the pale.
I can`t see room at the inn.
bankiebhoy -and soon to be unemployed? ;/)
This sorry episode is a salutary lesson in the perils of working with your mates.
To coin a phrase: “Modern CQN debates involving The Ginger Helmsman are rubbish” … (c. DBBIA 2005)
Back to the header article topic briefly.
What are the signs that Lennon/Mjallby & Thommo were restricted to an O’Neil philosophy solely. Apart from Lenny signing Cha and trying to make him Agathe Mark2, I see few similarities.
All 3 coaches played under several different managers apart from their overlap at Celtic. They also had international squad managerial experience though Thommo only had one instance of this.
Jock, Sean and Neilly, all played at Celtic under the (non) coaching regime of McGrory and Kelly. they showed no signs of having swallowed any orthodoxy.
I feel sorry for Thommo’s lost job but I am not particularly exercised by who replaces the training ground coach; there are a lot of good coaches out there, some already employed at youth level in Celtic. We do not need a big name and there is an element of
risk involved in seeking an outsider to assist Lennon/Mjallby & Parker.
The one thing a management “team” need is implicit trust in one another. A football club is a breeding ground for back stabbing if you read some of the more candid football biographies. A “Board Spy” inserted into the management team seems to be a favoured tactic.
I am aware that there is a theory around the concept of Creative Conflict. There is an even older theory, however, around the more straightforward concept of Conflict. A House Divided Against Itself….
Finally, I repeat that shared experiences such as Lennon Mjallby and Parker have had do not, inevitably, result in shared orthodoxies. What is the evidence?
I’m off to do some work. Will catch replies later.
starry plough on 6 June, 2012 at 08:57 said:
Amazing.Simply amazing.
SFTB- Going by the Mccarra book if W,Maley didn’t go in for coaching in the modern sense, as invented by J.Stein, he certainly went in for ‘man-management’ in a big way.
Macjay. But felt warm in work today reminding the ozzies the rugby score:). Not a big rugby fan tho
Wgs. Plus points One of the finest Ambasadors our club has
Came in at right time to steady ship
Built fitness level up that defo contributed to 2 last 16
Found us a goalie after searching for 20 years
gave us 3 in a row
Negative points. Spent a lot of money and increased squad with very little quality
Tinkered away from home in his last season ,tried to keep it tight by playing 5 in midfield against big guns such as Motherwell, killie ,hibs etc. no suprise an away win in his last season became very rare ;(
Maloney at ibrox, when he had not played for 6 months was inexcusable
If he had not tinkered away from home in the last season. Huns would have been bankrupt 2 years ago
St
DBBIA
My meeting’s not called yet.
According to Wiki:-
“Mr Maley never worked with his players in training, he watched games from the directors’ box and never indulged in team talks or spoke to his players at half-time or post-match.Mr Maley would not even announce the team: players learned if they were in or out through reading the line-up in the newspaper.”
Did he get that Orthodox Style from his Father’s army career? :-)
SFTB- Jimmy Delaney spoke very highly of WM as a manager; he also had his favourites, like Tommy McInally, that he would indulge while others would be summoned to the’ Headmasters’ office.
He comes across as a complicated and at times contrary individual.
Heard AT was forced to leave because soon there will be no huns left to skelp.
DBBIA
Re Kenny
I’m sure he regrets his decision now…..The attraction was undoubtedly Uncle Walt, not the Boy Blunder….It always looked to me that in all matters technical or tactical The Myth first looked to discuss things with “McDowally” with the Bin Man eariwigging and trying hard to concentrate on what the grown-ups were saying…..
;)
Macjay
Re Kenny,
I disagree, there’s always room for talent and experience at Celtic Park, and another thing Celtic specialise in converting those poor souls into the Celtic WAY….
Our powers of forgiveness are *legendary……
HH
* le Peitite merde excepted!
Bajaoui signs up and calls for promotion push from Rangers
Ooooops sorry Berwick Rangers.
Promotion bit was tight though.