Where is the immigrant community protection, Nicola?

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Police Scotland have spoken to business owners they think vulnerable to a Newco mob in Glasgow.  Consequently, the Celtic Shop in Argyle St will close tomorrow; police are unable to offer sufficient security to staff or customers.  Other bars and retail premises with links to immigrant communities will also close for the day.

Newco issued a statement asking, “If possible, please celebrate within your own community.”  If possible?  The subtext is not subtle.

The First Minister could not wait to get on in front of a TV camera to talk about a Celtic trip in January, despite her government approving the trip.  But when it counts, when immigrant communities needs her protection, she looks the other way.  Her Cyber Army will not be exploiting this like they exploited another immigrant community this week.  You are being played.

It is like watching two rival gangster families.  They bully indiscriminately but have different rules of engagement for each other.  Celtic would never pull a “If possible” stoke, the £600k gangster knows this, so can grandstand about us.

People make Glasgow, apparently.  Exceptionalism, def.: The term carries the implication, whether or not specified, that the referent is superior in some way.  We are not exceptional, not in the slightest.  If you are in any doubt, reappraise yourself tomorrow.

 

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  1. MADMITCH …

     

     

    How right you are — we will not have Tory austerity / we will have Tartan Tory austerity.

     

     

    This is supposition on your part. As far as tartan tories? The Labour Party have been proponents of selling off public services more than the SNP. That said, that particular argument is like comparing two bald men fighting over comb. None of the mainstream parties are worthy of the chance to represent the people. They are all serial failures.

     

     

    One difference however, is that under independence there’s a chance of getting the representation we want/deserve. Under the Westminster administration we do *not* participate in a democracy.

     

     

    Just as the Nats have imploded Scottish education they will implode Scottish social security.

     

     

    The PISA test results do not reflect your opinion. And to be clear, it is just opinion.

     

     

    Not that you know much about Scottish public sector education.

     

     

    I know more than you, it appears. Scotland spends more per pupil than England, it’s ahead in literacy. Scotland also doesn’t saddle our youth with massive debts for a university education. The largest cuts in school spending have also been in England and Northern Ireland. Scotland also leads in terms of class sizes on a pupil per teacher basis.

     

     

    I come from a long line of school teachers, headmasters and assistant heads. I have a particular interest in education, both from a family stand point and also as a principle (being a sad act Noam Chomsky and Malcolm X fan boy). Your accusations are fantasy – and worse, fantasy based on a political leaning.

     

     

    You need to know how good it once was to know how bad it has become.

     

     

    I know how good it was, and I know how good it currently is. You do teachers and others in education a grave disservice in your claims. Schooling now is different. And there are lots of problems with it, but free education as a principle as well as high investment in education in a per pupil basis are laudable.

     

     

    The fact that you’d hanker for a system that delivered PPP schools is beyond any logic I can comprehend. And if you really hanker for the “good old days” before that where pupils could be belted and abused without fear then we’re at an impasse that’ll never be crossed. Are there problems in education now? Of course there are – but some of these issues come from external sources. For example, parents and the media pretty much demanding that teachers become surrogate parents responsible for teaching kids basic ethics.

     

     

    Education attainment can be quite easily mapped to poverty. On this front Labour and the SNP have failed badly in Scotland. in Glasgow in particular, the health outcomes and life expectancy of people, as well as poverty levels are shameful. And the SNP’s response of simply giving kids an iPad doesn’t cut it, but IMO the only thing that would actually solve the issue is letting teachers be in charge of a thinned down curriculum. That and a new drive to apprenticeships/youth training and continuing free further education.

     

     

    Plus hiding external reports showing your failures always helps.

     

     

    Just like your baseless and senseless accusations of people you disagree with being from ‘St Als’, this looks more like a ‘what MadMitch would like’ than any reality we live in. It’s certainly not based in any recorded fact.

     

     

    Social security failure — Starting with the pensions they will not be able to pay.

     

     

    Pardon? Not sure where this curve ball came from – but if you want to look at pensions, let’s look at Labour and the Tories frenzied deregulation of pensions, where companies can raid corporate pension schemes and makes the schemes unviable and to all intents and purposes bankrupt. Under Labour and the Tories, private pensions moved from final salary to ‘defined contribution’ schemes that will impoverish generations of present day workers, and future workers who have also been condemned to a live of private rental, insecure housing with no rent controls and 6 month tenancies. If you want to discuss pensions? Have at it – but the horror show under both of the unionist parties doesn’t make good reading. Your other point regarding not being able to pay pensions and in effect becoming bankrupt – how did that work out for Iceland?

     

     

    They are destroying the councils as we speak.

     

     

    They’re not really. They’re just making an arse of things. For example, in Glasgow where senior Labour sources were telling anyone that would listen that the old guard were “running rings around the SNP” in GCC. Then again, I’d peg that as capitalism being the enemy of the people rather than the SNP being satan.

     

     

    Any excuse for a council tax freeze.

     

     

    Was that a cynical vote grab? Absolutely. Did it help people? Probably – at least under the worst of the never ending big increases that helps pay for Frank McAveety and co’s jollys all over the world.

     

     

    The bold Franko and his pals tried to put their trip to Rangers UEFA cup final riot on GCC expenses and got found out and made pay it back. Than again, I guess Franko needed something to do when he wasn’t lying about eating subsidised pies or making shady remarks about under-age girls. That’s Labour for you.

     

     

    They have had 14 years of practice and their failures litter the landscape.

     

     

    You’re right, they do. The privatisation of Glasgow’s IT services writ large. Oh… wait, that was Labour’s baby. The SNP just acquiesced due to a head mix of arrogance, laziness and naivety. Doesn’t speak highly of either party. Almost 60 years of increasing poverty in Glasgow and decreasing life expectancy doesn’t speak volumes of Labour. Nor does almost 60 years of nepotism and corruption.

     

     

    We are now living in a joke country / haggis republic.

     

     

    You sound like the Simpson’s grandpa: Old man shouts at clouds. Similarly, it’s based on as much fact.

     

     

    But we can write a fairy story report with growth in the title.

     

     

    I agree with you. It’s a sales brochure. But you’re painting this as the definitive version of what would happen under independence.. Last time I checked, the plan was for a working democracy. You know, a democracy where when you vote for who gets into power.

     

     

    All the major parties are shills by and large. I cannot for the life of me understand the fundamentalists on either side of this argument however. It makes no sense. You’re making stuff up to support a sectarian (classical definition, you’re not a hun, and most likely a decent human in real life) viewpoint. I don’t get it.

     

     

    I don’t believe in boogy men of any import, why your assign that significance is beyond me. You don’t even really address the positive points of being part of the ‘union’. I have no idea why you’re a unionist. I know what you dislike, but I’ve never heard you argue a positive point for the union, just fear, uncertainty and doubt. I think that’s a shame.

     

     

    /p

  2. Madmitch…

     

     

    For your info – sources for my data come from Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), the Education Policy Institute and the Office for National Statistics (ONS) amongst others. Well, those and the jaundiced views of family members including mother, father, uncles, aunts and grandparents being variously head teachers in Scotland and Northern Ireland, head of IT for primary education in Strathclyde schools, assistant head teachers and teachers over several generations.

     

     

    Oh, and after kicking a ball about, I trained as a teacher. Thankfully I then saw sense and ran as far away from it as possible! :D

     

     

    /p

  3. unionists on here write about how bad an independent scotland would be for us minorities crack me up. I did not realise we had it so good right now under the uk arm. I grew up being called to name a but a few things a taig, tarrior, fenian, plastic paddy, potato picker etc, told to go home and I have faced discrimination in the work place, that has come from people of all backgrounds. I dont beleive for a minute we would be worse off in an independent scotland.

     

     

    Racists will only ever be addressed when government no matter the origin call it out, neither the UK or the scottish government have proven capable in that regard

     

     

    HH

  4. squire danaher on

    STEPHBHOY67 on 14TH MAY 2021 9:45 PM

     

     

    Yeah

     

     

    Thank God Scottish Labour protected us and our forefathers from institutionalised Hun bigotry!!!

  5. My team for tomorrow

     

     

    Barkas

     

     

    Ralston Welsh Ajer Taylor/Laxalt

     

     

    McGregor Brown

     

     

    Dembele Turnbull Elyounoussi

     

     

    Edouard

     

     

     

    I don’t rate Ralston but JJK has been so bad my hand is forced

     

     

    This could be a farewell Celtic appearance for 6 of that starting line up (if Laxalt starts) and we could ring on Griff, Christie & Bitton to make that 9 farewells.

     

     

    Hope JF gets game time to promote his claim for a European Championship place with Scotland.

  6. If anyone is wanting to hear football chat rather than read political posts , Brian MCClair is very good on tonight’s Homebhoys podcast.

  7. squire danaher on

    SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 14TH MAY 2021 10:08 PM

     

     

    For what’s it’s worth

     

     

    J Forrest has habit of playing well for his country and his absence throughout this season may well be to S Clarke’s advantage and to Celtic’s advantage early next season.

     

     

    Who knows it may be the same thing??

  8. I expect SB renewals to get close to 50k if we can get bacj attending again.

     

     

    If there is no attendance allowed by Late July, then renewal may fall unf=der 23k but I suspect that, if Sevco sell 50l for Ibrox then we will match them, however belatedly.

     

     

    It’s all in the lap of the Covid restrictions

  9. lets all do the huddle on

    why arent the season ticket renewals out yet?

     

     

    very strange

     

     

    if they started renewals now then half (or whatever) the fans would renew anyway

     

     

    then others will wait until they see who the new manager is but at least a large number would already have been processed

     

     

    so whats the issue?

     

     

    the only reason i can think of is that PLC-ism is waiting to decide how much to charge us based on whether its eddie howe or john kennedy or a.n. other

  10. HOT SMOKED on 14TH MAY 2021 9:02 PM

     

    In light of the retention of Covid Level Three in Glasgow, will Sevco now release another , more forcible Statement telling their support to refrain from gathering?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Incidentally, my own view re the OTT celebrations of the Huns on their Title success is that, deep down, they know they are not the same Club . Celebrating so wildly allows them to shield themselves from the truth ( whilst doing the opposite re the spread of covid 19).

     

     

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    excatamundo

  11. ROLLING_STONE on 14TH MAY 2021 11:49 AM

     

    Wait until we are independent. The bigotry will go into overdrive.

     

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    Will the British Army shoot any innocent Catholic mothers face off tomorrow anywhere in your UK? If so, don’t expect any justice.

     

    I’ll take my chances in an independent Scotland within the EU anyday than stay within your Paratrooper UK.

  12. JVR on 14TH MAY 2021 10:09 PM

     

    If anyone is wanting to hear football chat rather than read political posts , Brian MCClair is very good on tonight’s Homebhoys podcast.

     

     

     

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    definition of irony per chance

  13. p8 @ keyboard warrior central

     

     

    Bit of advice for you and your tribe.

     

    You might want to spread your wings a bit.

     

    There is a big wide world out there beyond teaching.

     

     

    Those that can — Do.

     

    Those that can’t — Teach.

     

    Those that can’t and don’t like children — There is always project management.

     

     

    Anyone with children at secondary school at the moment is at their wits end with the shallow curriculum / the shallow teachers / the shallow expectations.

     

     

    40% of secondary teachers who are naturals and are true leaders.

     

    60% of secondary teachers are just marking time towards retirement.

     

    They were from the bottom end of their uni classes and had few alternatives.

  14. Green Pinata, clearly you struggle with the meaning of ‘leaving aside, and conveniently ignore my point that your one party state fear-mongering makes no sense.

     

    However, I’ll do you the courtesy of responding to your point…the current rate of infection in Glasgow is way above the widely accepted Level 3 threshold, caused in the main by the tories allowing unfettered access to the UK from India, so an extended lockdown was sadly inevitable. Unless that is, you know differently, professor!

  15. p8 @ 9.30’ish

     

     

    Interesting your love of final salary pension schemes.

     

    It would appear that your tribe have been quite adept at working them to their benefit.

     

     

    Final salary pension schemes are economic serfdom.

     

    Tying yourself to a master so that they will feed you in your old age.

     

     

    Open to abuse — those that get to the top and leave on good salary hoover up the benefits.

     

    There retirement is based on their last job not their contribution history.

     

    However some see this as progressive.

     

    Interesting view of progressive.

  16. Knightswoodbhoy on

    Setting free the bears,

     

    Ralston , really? However kudos for introducing footballl to this political forum( (apparently)

  17. MAD MITCH

     

     

    Final Salary offers guarantees that money purchase doesn’t.

     

     

    What would be your alternative?

  18. MAD MITCH

     

     

    There retirement is based on their last job not their contribution history.

     

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    Absolute pish.

  19. SIONNAIGH on 14TH MAY 2021 10:34 PM

     

     

     

     

    ‘Will the British Army shoot any innocent Catholic mothers face off tomorrow anywhere in your UK?’

     

     

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    Certainly not in Scotland.

     

     

    It would never have happened in Scotland.

     

     

    Because Scotland’s relationship with the UK is not like Ireland’s, and never was.

     

     

    Different countries, different histories, different economies, different cultures, different problems, different destinies.

     

     

    Something the cult pretend not to understand.

  20. Knightswoodbhoy

     

     

    “Ralston , really? However kudos for introducing footballl to this political forum( (apparently)”

     

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    It was a combination of two things:-

     

     

    1) Giving the bhoy his last game in a Celtic shirt

     

    & 2) John Joe Kenny has been poor

  21. Jinkyredstar on

    Madmitch

     

     

    Ever stood in front of a class?

     

     

    One of the hardest jobs around – the hoary old chestnut that you quote is a heap of steaming excrement

     

     

    When you have done something come back on here and tell us about it, you belittle the efforts of many good people.

  22. While Celtic burns, CQN fiddles 🎻

     

     

    Perhaps tomorrow, we’ll discuss new management teams?

     

     

    We must be close to 80 days since Neil left

  23. see this close the border patta!!! remember NS said nobody can travel from England 2 Scotland,, how come all the good people from England India etc come over the kid on border!!

  24. ERNIE LYNCH on 14TH MAY 2021 11:21 PM

     

    SIONNAIGH on 14TH MAY 2021 10:34 PM

     

    ‘Will the British Army shoot any innocent Catholic mothers face off tomorrow anywhere in your UK?’

     

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    Certainly not in Scotland.

     

    It would never have happened in Scotland.

     

    Because Scotland’s relationship with the UK is not like Ireland’s, and never was.

     

    Different countries, different histories, different economies, different cultures, different problems, different destinies.

     

    Something the cult pretend not to understand.

     

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    I’d rather take our chances in the EU than in the UK that shoots innocent Catholics at will. Mothers of seven included. Her face shot off. A Priest shot several times in the back. A ex British Army Disabled Serviceman shot 19 times.

     

    How about your UK PM? Cowardly piece of filth. Not man enough to apologise for the deliberate murder of UK Catholics by his cowardly UK army.

     

    That’s your UK for you.

     

    Remember that much, next time in the Ballot Box.

     

    ps Never in Scotland, really? Ever been to Culloden? Highland clearances ring any bells?

  25. wishaw tim

     

     

    Those travel restrictions ended on April 26.

     

    Not sure the impact of that myself, in Glasgow for example, or Moray for that matter.

  26. St stivs! why should the huns call out their fans ( hordes) !!! surely the SG should call it out , a mean 😢 it’s em who called time on Glasgow pubs restaurants etc!! ps be very interested to see what happens next sat regarding the haggis gathering!! especially about going into glasgow or leaving the postal area

  27. CELTIC MAC! correct, just wondering why ! many people will have family in England! like me , who are desperate to meet up , hope I am wrong, ( big time) but seriously worried that a planned trip may be forbidden, hopefully I am wrong, planning to meet my Daughter and grandkids june 11 !! hopefully politics don’t get in the way