If the statement by Inverness chairman Kenny Cameron was utterly bizarre, St Mirren’s Stewart Gilmour explains so much about Scottish football. 10 days after Gilmour voted to refuse Sevco a parachute into the top flight of the game, he accused Scottish Football League clubs of doing damage to Scottish football by standing shoulder-to-shoulder with him in refusing to promote Sevco into an unearned higher league.
He told the Paisley Daily Express: “To be fair to Stewart Regan, the document he released last week was a good document.
“It set out changes to Scottish football that would bring in a fairer structure, fairer distribution system, fairer everything.
“Unfortunately, the people in the SFL have not bought into that. I just hope they realise the damage they have done to Scottish football.”
“The damage they have done to Scottish football”!
This guy is hilarious! ‘Do as I say, not as I do’ has never been more animated.
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In physical chemistry, saturation is the point at which a solution of a substance can dissolve no more of that substance and additional amounts of it will appear as a separate phase (as a precipitate[2]
:P
The Selecter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKeseKn260o
RIP Connor McAfferty YNWA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkOMiA_uGso&feature=related
Robert Nesta Marley.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlk9Sj4Ns2k
Tricoloured Ribbon on 15 July, 2012 at 01:55 said:
Imatim,Thanks son
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You’re very welcome my friend. God Bless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm8FjyutbIk&feature=related
Paul McC on 14 July, 2012 at 21:27 said:
One of my regular commenters, Ecojon, has been hot on the trail of the mysterious unnamed investors in Sevco Scotland Ltd, the company which is the newest owner of an SFL3 team.
The cast of characters listed is evidence that this saga probably still has a lot of mileage in it, and even after so much time there are still more questions than answers.
Enjoy!
http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2012/07/14/who-are-the-mysterious-sevcorangers-investors-some-answers-guest-post-by-ecojon
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This needs to be widely disseminated..
…along with full disclosure about “major fraud” at rfc.
We cannot let the sfa treat us all as mug punters any longer.
This crap has gone on long enough,as well as the msm daily tripe about ‘newco rangers’……..no such animal.
Scotand needs shot of its institutionalised bigotry club tryin’ to turn Scotland into Ulster.
Twinbhoy,
My Granda having been wounded in the 1st war took our family to Lochwinnoch to a job where he thought his family MIGHT settle.No chance.A recovery was on and they returned to Clydebank.My da god rest him loved Lochwinnoch and we returned there regularly from Clydebank to fish the Cart at Howwood.Loved it.The place was hooching wae Sevco.The Blackwoods and the Brown Bull from Lochwinnoch GIRFUY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1MGLxVQz7Y&feature=related
@Tricoloured Ribbon
Don’t take offfense, I answered your question,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeG5Pl-5e1Q&sns=em
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBYoNYuUVk0&sns=em
What offence you on about Twinbhoy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vklyIhg9PM8&sns=em
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSy3UvVwQ8g&sns=em
Connor McCafferty, son of my friend Barry RIP.
YNWA. Goodnight to all Tims throughout the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awositUJYLM&sns=em
Pissed as a fart my birthday love my songs or loath them your choice!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAN_F-nPC8&sns=em
Connor
R.I.P.
YNWA
TT
pigalle on 15 July, 2012 at 01:17 said:
Regan’s email:
>>>>>>>>>>>
‘Plan 9 From Outer Space’ ?
pigalle on 15 July, 2012 at 01:17 said
Wow.
No date.
Late June?
10,000 at the Dundee derby.
Sounds like a plan.
to all life in any way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqAyfueYtT0
including you, my friend Tricoloured Ribbon
i didn’y stop it
There are situations so bizarre they defy conventional wisdom. The Rangers situation is one of them. Today in the newspapers, the entire English speaking world will be made aware of the lengths to which Stewart Regan was willing (and perhaps still is) to go to see NewCo Rangers in the SPL again within one year.
Understandable, although the means are inexcusable and will almost certainly result in his dismissal from post – which many of us have been calling for now for weeks.
There is also a looming battle within the SPL, which in the end may or may not claim the scalp of Neil Doncaster, and that is a must as far as many of us are concerned. The damage that will be inflicted on that league in the next 12 months will be immense. That is now as near certain as anything can be.
Commercially, the SPL is dead. It didn’t have to be so, but when it’s chief executive, member clubs chairmen and the head of the SFA are going around telling everyone the game is about to die … who the Hell is going to invest in it? For this reason alone, for talking down the product in a way which would have had Gerald Ratner himself hiding under the bed, these men, perhaps out of fear or stupidity, or just arrogance, have destroyed what they were meant to protect and talked themselves out of their jobs.
And for what? This is the most bizarre bit of the story.
To save something that is already dead, resurrected and is already on the verge of dying all over again.
Yes, you read that right. Already, Rangers NewCo is in grave financial peril, and is unlikely to survive.
Based on the information which is already in the public domain, this club should not receive a license to play football at all. Every day brings us closer to another incredible twist in this tale – the near certainty that the Sevco deal will be legally unravelled or will itself suffer a complete internal collapse.
On the strength of the information I have seen, I cannot conceive of how the SFA can, or should, allow Sevco to take ANY place in the Scottish football structure. There is talk of the SFL signing a football broadcasting deal on the strength of their involvement in the league – a disastrous move if they do it, because of the very real possibility that the deal will COLLAPSE as a result of the NewCo not being able to complete the season.
Ironically, Rangers NewCo is in even graver danger now than than the OldCo was six months ago, when Craig Whyte’s “revolution” collapsed in the aftermath of the January transfer window. There is a 50/50 chance that the NewCo will NOT SURVIVE the turn of the year 2012, and this is not hyperbole but cold fact.
The relegation to the Third Division has devastated the club as a commercial investment, for at least the next ten years. There are widespread rumours about ownership of the assets, and of who the financial backers of Charles Green really are, and on what basis he “borrowed” the £5.5 million to buy the club.
There is a lot of information out there right now, and the various strands appear to lead in one direction; to Octopus Investments, also known as Ticketus, who’s silence since the rejection of the CVA has been noted in various places. The links between Sevco and Octopus appear to be deeper than first thought, and that means it’s not simply £5.5 million on the line but five, perhaps six times, that much … and all of it is now at risk.
Whoever owns New Rangers, perhaps lulled by Duff & Phelps talk about making the club a cash cow, perhaps buying into the Global Rangers Family myth, perhaps because they don’t know their history, believed they were buying a money making machine which had simply been run wrong. They believed implicitly in 40,000 season ticket holders, European income, TV money and a whole lot more … none of which will come to pass, or be realised, for at least the next five years.
Instead of spitting out tens and twenties, NewCo Rangers is going to be a financial black hole, sucking in money to feed itself, and giving out nothing in return.
NewCo has lost an entire squad of players. its infrastructure has been fundamentally dismantled. The task of rebuilding that shattered club will take at least a decade. Even running at present levels, with the first team squad wage bill cut to the bone, NewCo has significant overheads, consistent with running an enormous footballing institution. Every commercial contract has been smashed to smithereens, but bills still have to be paid. Every income stream has been reduced to the bare minimum, but the rates have to be paid and upkeep on a 50,000 stadium still has to be met – and I hear there are BIG problems there, which will dwarf the £20 million HMRC debt which closed the former company and precipitated this whole crisis.
Stewart Regan and Neil Doncaster have gambled their careers on saving something which may not be viable anyway. Certainly, their failure makes another administration event at Ibrox a virtual certainty.
Clubs in the SFL know all this. This is one of the key reasons for rejecting NewCo as a First Division club. Clyde have spoken out on the subject, as have Annan and Raith. There has even been mention of the situations at Livingston and Gretna, both of whom suffered financial meltdown and were placed in the lowest tier in the game, all the better to limit the damage if those clubs went nuclear and died – as Gretna did, in a full-scale justification of the SFL’s stance on the issue.
NewCo’s being placed in the bottom tier had as much to do with protecting the integrity of the SFL brand as it did with sporting fairness, limiting and containing the potential damage which will certainly be done if NewCo collapses mid-season – as I believe is now more than likely.
Regan and Doncaster cannot survive this. Not only have they destroyed the credibility of their offices, shattered commercial confidence in the product and lied to, and tried to bully, their own members and the clubs in the SFL, but they have done so to prop up a basket case company which is, in fact, nothing more than a ticking time-bomb which could go off at any moment.
The disgrace which covers the corpse of Rangers is now a disgraceful stain on the authorities who run the game, and the final proof that they have left the path of sensible governance and are embarked on the road of madness.
NewCo Rangers faces at least ten years on the fringes of the game, and that is a Best Case Scenario. They are a minimum of three years from returning to the top tier, and perhaps as many as a dozen from taking part in European football.
The reputation of the game has been tarnished, and that damage is beyond repair until the men at the top of the game itself are gone from office, and with the notable exception of David Longmuir, who has restored some confidence, are in positions which are utterly untenable; Doncaster, Regan and Ogilvie must go and go now, before they do further harm.
But there is one other path to consider, one more road to take, and is the toughest choice which will ever be faced by administrators in football, but I believe it has to happen.
The SFA must refuse to grant Rangers NewCo a license to play in the Scottish Football League, use what little time is left to open the process and introduce Spartans, or whomever, to take their place, and let something take its course which should have been done on the day Rangers Football Club went into liquidation.
The notion of pretending the club which was founded in 1873 still goes on must be put aside and buried. A brand new club must be formed from the ashes of what remains, and Scottish football must go on without that club for a period of at least one year, until the legal, financial and technical issues which surround them have been completely set aside.
To those who believe they read a vengeful Celtic fan in these words, let me put you to rights.
The club which was Rangers is already no more. The vast and dominating institution which once believed it ruled Scottish football has been destroyed completely. They have suffered a crushing humiliation and the pain has just started. With the level of their squad they will struggle to compete at ANY level at all, and face dark days and nights ahead almost without number.
No revenge I could ever have dreamed of was the equal of what has happened already or what is about to come to pass. Only a sadist could dream of something beyond this.
It is Scottish football which has suffered most. it is Scottish football which will continue to suffer, as NewCo Rangers lurches from one crisis to another in the next 12 months even as it tries to claw its way back to some kind of competitive place.
At the moment, that day is as far off as the day when the Sun becomes a great red giant and consumes the Earth. The present version of Rangers Football Club has NO CHANCE of being a competitive force in the Scottish game – that is a FACT.
In order to truly start from scratch that club, and Scottish football itself, must ACCEPT that the old Rangers is DEAD.
A period without them is the ONLY way to heal the club itself and the game in Scotland. It is the only way to root out all the corruption, the secret deals, the shady characters, the darkness at the core of the institution. Every source of scandal, every potentially damaging revelation, every dirty fact, must be uncovered, must be laid bare and must be dealt with … or they will come back to haunt not only that club but the game itself.
We cannot save something which may live to kill us. We must let it die and burn the body.
Then – and ONLY then – should competitive football be played again at Ibrox by a team wearing blue.
How many times will that club have to die and be reborn before some kind of balance is restored? How many Extinction Level Events must Scottish football itself endure before stability is brought to this situation, and the game allowed to grow again without this cancer at its heart?
The game needs a break from this. Rangers fans need time to take stock and allow this year to pass. The struggle for power at Ibrox needs to be resolved one way or another.
None of this can happen whilst we cling to the illusion that this club still lives. Football cannot be played alongside a potential reactor disaster masquerading as old Rangers.
A year out gives everyone breathing space and time to take stock. it would be the most momentous – and courageous – decision ever taken in the history of Scottish football.
If only we had the men of courage needed to take it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDIsoDIourw
J.F. says
Only a sadist could dream of something beyond this.
That`s me.
I don`t want my team and my fellow Tims ever to have to go to Ibrox again.
James Forrest is Neil Lennon! We are ALL Neil Lennon! on 15 July, 2012 at 04:15 said:
You were right mate,it was a war.Maybe not in the conventional,literal sense…guns,bombs etc.Well there was bullets & bombs,come to think about it!!
They waged war on our club,in every sense of the word,think about it.
The propaganda war for a start,the cheating,the lying,the corruption.But it was never about football,or sport – it was blatant,ugly sectarianism & racism,and it started at the very top of Scottish society,and it ended up at the lowest rungs of the ladder.
The streets of Glasgow ran red with the blood of young Celtic supporters,murdered for wearing the colours green,or having an “Irish sounding” name.
They can’t beat us…God only knows they have tried…every scheme,scam,trick..but alas,to no avail…We are here to stay,we won their war.
GIRFUT
What concerns me in all this is…..why have UEFA/FIFA not been in involved ?
I know the huns are banned from europe for three years but……
Paul 67
I apologise for any broken lines @5:04.
James Forrest
“On the strength of the information I have seen,”
What have you actually seen?
TT
I was proud that Scottish Football fans from all clubs voted for the sport rather than the thirty pieces of silver. I expected it. What I didn’t expect was the SPL to turn back on it’s decision to get sevco back. Regan still talks about relegation. Rangers are liquid , no more , cheats who were caught. No matter what Regan thinks this is fact and will never change. He must be completely deaf & blind to what the fans on the terraces think. I heard today that SPL were meeting on Monday to overturn the previous decisions and reinstate rangers. This is almost beyond belief but it sounds like the SPL are actually trying to achieve this. Ernie if it goes this way I owe you an apology and I will join the sack the board brigade. If SPL try to bend the rules or make new rules to reward cheating and Celtic don’t go very public with their position I will be gubbed and my faith severely tested.
I am NL in NZ Tauranga on 15 July, 2012 at 06:04 said:
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Hear, hear M8.
God Bless
Hail Hail.
kevjungle I really hope that what I heard does not come to pass. I like to live my life with a glass at least half full and I think the best of people but if it turns to custard and the PLC are complicit it will rock me big time. Thanks for the hail hail anyway. Whatever happens I will be come here to be with the Celts.
Mornin’ Celts,
off to work in a bit. I see Britney is crying into his cornflakes in his column. Not his best piece of work.
Kevin McKenna in the grauniad is better:
Perhaps football isn’t the most corrupt sport on the planet after all. Last week it was revealed that the former Fifa president João Havelange and executive committee member Ricardo Teixeira had pocketed “commissions” worth millions. Neither of them, though, will face criminal charges because of another obscene backroom deal in world football’s equivalent of Tammany Hall. Two days later, on Friday the 13th, a young Scottish football administrator called David Longmuir stepped reluctantly into the spotlight, licked his lips nervously and began the task of giving the game back its soul.
Longmuir is chief executive of the Scottish Football League and a few minutes earlier his members – the bakers and candlestick-makers who run Scotland’s lower-league clubs – had decided by a 25-5 majority to put “newco” Rangers into the Scottish Third Division. Longmuir duly stepped forward, delivered the clubs’ verdict and spoke eloquently about integrity and sporting fairness being the cornerstones of Scottish football’s creaking edifice. “The balancing act was the cash value of sporting fairness versus the cash value of the sporting economy. I think you can recover from financial failure, but it is very difficult when you start hindering the process of fairness,” he said.
Thus Rangers, winners of more domestic league titles than any other club in world football, will kick off the new season on 28 July in the Ramsdens Cup, against Brechin City. As this is an away tie for Rangers, they will be visiting a ground, Glebe Park, that holds 3,960 souls and has a nice wee hedge running around part of its perimeter. It will be the start of at least a three-year spell in purgatory for Rangers, in which they will have an opportunity to purify themselves of a decade of financial doping during which they stand accused of breaking every significant rule in the Scottish FA’s articles of association. The evidence against them has yet to be examined by the appropriate authorities. What happened to them on Friday was not a punishment; it was simply a consequence of them having been liquidated.
In a rare outbreak of biblical exegesis, words such as “Armageddon” and “Apocalypse” were being deployed indiscriminately in the Scottish press to describe what might happen to the game north of the border if Rangers were banished to the bottom tier.
Numbers were materialising from some of Scotland’s more febrile imaginations suggesting Scottish football would be driven to bankruptcy if the SPL was to be deprived of Rangers for more than one season. Sky Television and its Scottish football broadcasting partners ESPN were on the brink of pulling the plug on their TV deals because of the prolonged absence of a Celtic v Rangers fixture on the schedules. This, we were told, could result in several heavily indebted SPL clubs going to the wall.
The message to the chairmen of the lower-league clubs ahead of Friday’s meeting was clear: if you vote Rangers into the Third Division rather than the First, you will wreak a terrible financial pestilence upon our game. The people who run these clubs, however, are men and women who know what it is like to cajole a local business through straitened financial circumstances. So they ignored the predictions of fiscal meltdown and voted with their consciences. Thus far there have been no sightings of a man on a pale horse.
The only official responses from Sky and ESPN have been prudent and statesmanlike. Neither of them would be walking away from the game and each intended to be a long‑term partner of Scottish football.
It would be foolish not to acknowledge that some downward recalibration of existing broadcasting contracts will occur. After all, for three years at least there will be no Old Firm league meetings, the fixture that adds the zeros to the deals. But the Scottish Cup and League Cup will provide ample opportunity for everyone to receive their Old Firm fix. Celtic and Rangers have met on 12 occasions in various cup encounters since 2000. Is it beyond the scope of the dealmakers’ imaginations to find a way of reviving the old Glasgow Cup as a means of ensuring the Old Firm battle of the ages continues uninterrupted? This could take the form of an annual pre-season tournament, bolstered by a couple of major continental clubs, and act as a sweetener to the main broadcast deal.
Scotland, a nation of 5.5 million, has four senior football leagues comprising 42 clubs. England has 10 times Scotland’s population but barely twice the number of clubs. The unpalatable truth is that Scotland is carrying a lot of ballast and some of it can easily be offloaded. At least four SPL clubs are carrying crippling debt burdens. Administration and liquidation, followed by a few years contemplating their financial incontinence, will not be the worst thing to hit Scottish football.
Rangers’ demise may also allow Scottish football to breathe a little more by providing opportunities to our native young talent. Celtic, free from the need to be ahead of Rangers, will have the opportunity to blood many more of the players emerging from its lauded Lennoxtown academy, which has become Scotland’s de facto national centre of excellence. A cursory glance at the player rosters of most of Scotland’s main clubs reveals at least one player whom Celtic have reared. Rangers, of course, will simply have to field more homegrown talent.
In total, 36 of Scotland’s 42 clubs listened to their fans and acted against their own instincts. It is probably the first time in modern football history that the game’s grassroots have felt their concerns were heard and duly acted upon. There is a new, if fragile, sense of optimism abroad.
There will, of course, be attempts this weekend by a rump of the SPL’s most badly run and indebted clubs to obliterate this by engineering SPL2 and accommodate newco Rangers in it.
Such a move would damage Scottish football much more than the mere absence of Rangers or Celtic. For once trust is lost it is lost forever.
I’m still curious/suspicious/confused as to why the Celtic board increased the price of the SB’s whilst the, jelly & ice cream brigade were looking the other way and, now we have the manager more or less telling us that, the first team will, sooner or later be filled with youth players ?
If, the youth players bring home the bacon…all’s well and good and, the board are visionarie’s.
I remember last season when, after the turn of the year, the talk was about the treble.
We played Killie in a cup final.
Both teams with a trophy to play for. Who won ?
We played Hearts for a place in a cup final. Who won ?
We played Killie when, Killie had nothing to play for. Who won ?
We played Hearts on the last day of the season when Hearts were resting players for the cup final the following week. Who won ?
What I’m trying to say here is, even WITHOUT the huns in the league….we are NOT good enough!
At the risk of a beating to end all beatings….I would say that
Lennon’s Lion’s were the WORST team in hoops that I have seen as Champions!!!
If, Charlie Mulgrew and Joe Ledley were our best players last season the, what does that say about the rest of the players ?
No Wool Over The Eye’s – CSC