Two weeks ago, I cautioned that the line being given to Celtic by Eddie Howe, that he was waiting to assemble his backroom team, did not hold water, “This could be the reason proffered for the lack of a signature, but I’m not buying it.”
With his former Bournemouth backroom team now free from football commitments, I understand Howe told Celtic he is unable to convince his team to come to Glasgow and is not prepared to come without them. I’m not buying that either. He either has one of the EPL jobs he coveted, or his strength of character is not sufficient for him to cope in Glasgow without a chaperone. If it is the former, he has strung us along, if the latter, he’s too weak to cope here. It is the former, surely?
Howe was clearly our first choice and the man a board felt it worthwhile to not only offer a huge contract and the opportunity to recruit the entire backroom team, but to allow him to sit on the pot until the end of May. Like all these decisions, it was a gamble. Your view is as good as mine as to whether he was worth the wait.
So where has this left us? The ponderous time Eddie Howe took allowed a clear preference to emerge if his deal remained unsigned. You and I will have a weekend in the dark, which is frustrating, but I am not seeing any panic at Celtic Park. The new guy is not from the EPL circus, we’ll find out soon enough if that is a good thing or not!
Have a good weekend, if that’s possible between the two mood killers of managerial recruitment and lockdowns.
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ROCK TREE BHOY on 31ST MAY 2021 3:52 PM
There’s an infatuation on here with Peter Lawwell thats really unhealthy,
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The reason I blame Lawwell is because he’s responsible for mostly everything that’s happened.
LAMBERT14-I have mostly agreed with you today,but you’re continued use of ‘lawwellites’
kinda makes your argument,for me anyway a bit less
lambert14 on 31st May 2021 4:41 pm
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Who would you get as Celtic manager, and how would you fund it? Just asking.
Geebee
Yes, If you are looking for nuance, I already admitted that the man City squad of that year was stronger than Benfica.
If you are also looking for nuance, Benfica were playing their best team while City rested a few in both legs against us.
I can accept that BR’s qualification record is good (2 out of 3) but his CL Group achievements are not (4th, 3rd and failed to qualify). Finishing behind Moenchengladbach or just ahead of Anderlecht is not as good an achievement as overcoming Benfica(and Spartak) in 2013 or Benfica and Shaktar Donetsk in 2008 or Benfica and Copenhagen in 2007.
Benfica, for example, were CL Quarter finalists in 2006 and 2010 and 2012 and 2016- close to Man City’s achievements. They also were Europa semi-finalists in 2011 and reached the final in both 2013 and 2014.
The facts will never ding far enough to make BR’s European recprd with us superior to MON or WGS or NFL. More consistent- perhaps but not greater.
Howzat for nuance? 😀
67 EUROPEAN CUP WINNERS on 31ST MAY 2021 3:37 PM
Agree with the vast majority of what you say.
Glasgow in particular and Scottish football in general is a ‘hard sell”.
Who have the Ibrox franchise attracted in the last twelve years – a load of dross starting with McCoist, then no one of any pedigree, finally settling on a rookie manager some three years ago. Sure they finally won the title, but only because we had a squad that ‘downed tools’ & surrendered at the earliest opportunity….just like they did in every other competition during the season.
Attracting Brendan Rodgers was a major coup for us, but otherwise, we’ve had Neil Lennon twice & Ronny – not what you would call the ‘creme de la creme’.
I honestly don’t know who will be the next manager – but as the Eddie Howe saga has shown, it is not easy to tick every box, every time – this is Scotland and there are some ‘unusual’ boxes that are very difficult to tick.
SCULLYBHOY on 31ST MAY 2021 5:01 PM
lambert14 on 31st May 2021 4:41 pm
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Who would you get as Celtic manager, and how would you fund it? Just asking.
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Manager?
Genuinely no idea.
I was very disappointed when Howe didn’t come and can’t think beyond that.
I know that Rodgers was paid more than any Italian manager last season apart from Conte and look how it worked out.
We really did get what we paid for.
If we can pay the going rate for Rodgers, we can do the same for another top manager.
FAIRHILL BHOY on 31ST MAY 2021 5:01 PM
LAMBERT14-I have mostly agreed with you today,but you’re continued use of ‘lawwellites’
kinda makes your argument,for me anyway a bit less
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It sums up people who show blind loyalty to a guy who worked against the club he has earned multi millions from in order to prop up our biggest rival.
We as Celtic supporters/fans aren’t paid to go get a manager,or know how to fund it.
It doesn’t mean we can’t have opinions though 🤷🏽♂️
Please folks … read and share. And think.
This one is for all of you … all of Us, actually.
https://thecelticblog.com/2021/05/articles-and-features/our-relationship-with-celtic-is-at-a-crisis-point-we-need-to-think-about-things/
lambert14 on 31st May 2021 5:08 pm
I was very disappointed when Howe didn’t come and can’t think beyond that.
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Why were you disappointed that Howe didn’t come?
AT LAST, MY EUREKA MOMENT HAS ARRIVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The board is run by “The Ludge”
That took a while to figure out, but it’s obvious isn’t it really
schummi
LAMBERT14-I’m getting 2st. I can’t stand our board and I have already said I have agreed with mostly everything you have been saying today(not the name calling).So what does that make me in your opinion 🤷🏽♂️
THE_HUDDLE on 31ST MAY 2021 5:14 PM
lambert14 on 31st May 2021 5:08 pm
I was very disappointed when Howe didn’t come and can’t think beyond that.
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Why were you disappointed that Howe didn’t come?
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Because I think he would have done a really good job, and brought in a similar approach to Rodgers with sports science, the way big modern football clubs are run.
I also think he wouldn’t have stood for an accountant or anyone else picking his backroom team and signing players that he had either never heard of or didn’t want.
Who actually are the Lawwell loyalists ? is there was blind loyalty to him surely people would be posting he should stay, Highlighting him delivering his bosses set objectives, does not make you a supporter of him.
JAMES FORREST on 31ST MAY 2021 5:13 PM
Great stuff.
Relationship with Celtic at breaking point for many now.
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lambert14 on 31st May 2021 5:20 pm
Beause I think he would have done a really good job, and brought in a similar approach to Rodgers with sports science, the way big modern football clubs are run.
I also think he wouldn’t have stood for an accountant or anyone else picking his backroom team and signing players that he had either never heard of or didn’t want.
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He has a pretty average CV, no better than the Aussie bloke who also might bring in all those things you hope that Howe would’ve brought.
Howe was also identified by Lawwell, so I’d have assumed that would make him the wrong option??
FAIRHILL BHOY on 31ST MAY 2021 5:18 PM
LAMBERT14-I’m getting 2st. I can’t stand our board and I have already said I have agreed with mostly everything you have been saying today(not the name calling).So what does that make me in your opinion
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Sorry if i’ve offended.
I really believe that there are a lot of trolling huns on here simply because I can’t fathom how genuine Celtic fans would stand up for and back someone who made decisions against us, in favour of the huns, old or new.
I hated the old board with a passion, but even they wouldn’t have done that.
5 days since season ticket renewal statement promising a new manager “shortly”. 3 days since we were told we were in “advanced talks” with another candidate. Three and a half months since Lennon resigned and 8 months since they should have actively began succession planning.
Well run club, envy of Europe, blah, blah. 😝😝😝😝😝😝
I think we were all disappointed that Howe didn’t come……or to correctly interpret, his backroom staff would not come, which made it all untenable for him.
Both Celtic and Howe lost control when the backroom staff belatedly said no. Obviously up until then Celtic had been confident of landing Howe…..and Howe must have been confident that his backroom team would join him – otherwise why did he engage in protracted negotiations.
The Lawwell arson & George Square, and all that those two things represent, spooked these youngish Bournemouth guys and their families, killing the deal.
So it is a failure to bring in the preferred candidate – but why are some calling it a farce?
It is not a farce, it is two parties negotiating in good faith unable to finalise an agreement due circumstances outwith their control. These things happen in business a million times a day. It is not the end of the world….and it most certainly NOT the end of Celtic Football Club.
LAMBERT14-you haven’t offended me. I think it’s not just about our feelings for the board regarding renewing or not. It’s not so black n white
lambert14 on 31st May 2021 5:08 pm
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I agree with you that we should offer top money. The problem as I see it is, you either go for a young coach who wants to use us as a stepping stone (as with players) or the magic of the Celtic name draws the likes of St. Martin or BR (I was going to call him the sinner – but I am friends with some of his family). Just my opinion.
HH
Aw ffs can we stop this stupid assumption that what happened in George square and at PL house played any part in EH not coming to Celtic please.
It’s insulting
JHB on 31ST MAY 2021 5:02 PM
Same page I would love to be wrong and get a top coach/manager but history has taught me to manage my expectations
Having said all that the Howe debacle is embarrassing
Someone DD/PL or even DMcK fu–ed up big style
67ECW
Any excuse not to blame the inept board for it’s dithering over the last 9 months.
SAINT STIVS on 31ST MAY 2021 5:20 PM
Who actually are the Lawwell loyalists ? is there was blind loyalty to him surely people would be posting he should stay, Highlighting him delivering his bosses set objectives, does not make you a supporter of him.
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And that’s the excuse from the Lawwellites over why Lawwell makes the decisions he does.
Do you genuinely believe that?
Isn’t it obvious that Desmond doesn’t care as he sees Celtic as an opportunity to make a huge amount of money if they make the EPL.
The EPL is all Desmond talks about when he gives his annual Celtic interview.
His shares would be ripe for selling.
What you are also saying is that Lawwell isn’t man enough to do the job properly, after all, Desmond isn’t the majority shareholder.
You say he is carrying out DDs wishes, so are you saying that DD wanted him to sign players that Rodgers didn’t want, and not sign the players like McGinn?
Are you saying that DD wanted him to brief Chris McLaughlin against Rodgers the night before a huge CL match?
DD wanted him to lie about not knowing or reading up on the 5WA?
DD wanted him to bury RES12?
DD didn’t want him to write to Uefa to investigate why improperly registered players in hundreds of matches were not dealt with as per the rules?
And if you are, what kind of man, who is hugely wealthy, would actually put up with that?
JHB on 31st May 2021 5:34 pm
I think we were all disappointed that Howe didn’t come……or to correctly interpret, his backroom staff would not come, which made it all untenable for him.
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I’m not disappointed, I don’t rate Howe.
I’m disappointed that we are awful at finalising deals.
I still don’t know why Howe was our number 1 target, and why he warranted a 3 month wait.
FAIRHILL BHOY on 31ST MAY 2021 5:36 PM
Aw ffs can we stop this stupid assumption that what happened in George square and at PL house played any part in EH not coming to Celtic please.
It’s insulting
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Exactly
LAMBERT14 on 31ST MAY 2021 5:26 PM
FAIRHILL BHOY on 31ST MAY 2021 5:18 PM
I hated the old board with a passion, but even they wouldn’t have done that.
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Have a read at Brendan Sweeney’s Early Years books.
Trading on the old firm label has been done since 1909.
Available on youtube, Eddy’s France 1-0 up, nearly halftime v Netherlands. Centre half Upamecano with the goal.
JHB
The only demonstrable fact in your highly expedient and speculative post is that Howe didn’t come. Not sure who you think you’re cutting through to with this bluff either.
I agree he’s not the be all and end all, but competent clubs don’t put themselves in this position.
@SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 31ST MAY 2021 1:16 PM
You have cut off the end of your original quote – below:
“As it happens, I can agree that Man City were a tougher seed than Benfica but Benfica WERE 2nd seeds and deserving of that status. It was an achievement to beat them. Brendan never came close to qualifying from a CL Group.”
The point you made was that BR never came close to qualifying from a CL group. The response was that it was down, in large part, to the teams that were in our group (City and PSG as 2nd seeds).
I doubt WGS or NL would have qualified from those groups. In fact, I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t have. To not recognise the difference between Benfica as a club against City/PSG as a club is just obdurate.
This blog is now run by hunterlopers and anti Peter Lawells and they all tend to agree with each other, the rest of us are clueless. They are that smart that DD should offer them positions on the board.
Hunterloper – Anyone who criticises the shambolic season we have had, the previous manager or the board……
Lambert,
I am not saying any of that, you are.
I doubt very much DD level of people management goes down to instructing on individual day to day tasks.
As a PLC, the MAJORITY OWNERS it only takes an axis of 3 to be on the same side, DD, Traynor and the New York one to effectively control the company.
Here Peter, you look after my £35m worth of shares holding, (a trifling 0.003% of his wealth), win some trophies, let me brag about being in charge of celtic, we will give you £1m a year, plus loyalty bounses every few years.
No different to a manager or player, they are in it for the big bucks.
SCHUMMI on 31ST MAY 2021 5:16 PM
All joking aside that would explain exactly why we are sitting in stone cold silence at the back of the bus.
TONTINE TIM on 31ST MAY 2021 5:51 PM
This blog is now run by hunterlopers and anti Peter Lawells and they all tend to agree with each other, the rest of us are clueless. They are that smart that DD should offer them positions on the board.
LAMBERT14 on 31ST MAY 2021 4:41 PM
Your post could be a response to my post – if not just ignore my reply
But if you think getting top talent to Glasgow and the SPL is simply about money you underestimate the sensitivities of the great and the good in football
Like getting a new job – if you only have one offer its likely you will accept
If you have two or three offers you will make a decision based on what suits you
It also likely that the guy with 3 offers will be able to negotiate more money than the guy with one offer
And then money will not be the only factor
It is also likely that a guy who only has one job offer may not be as talented as the guy with 3 job offers
It’s the way of the world – unfortunately
It could be Eddie Howe prefers to live in a town where the CEOs house does not get burned down
If the Greek/Aussie has only had one offer to manage in Europe he may decide to take his chances
We – Celtic – do not get a free choice – we can only get the best of who is available and who is willing to come
But the big question – is the Greek/Aussie the best we can get – FFS I hope not
But he could be
Hail Hail
67ECW