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Surprised we got two in yesterday, as Manchester City under-grad, Jason Denayer, signed for a year-long loan last night.  The 19-year-old has yet to play first team football so is likely to be considered as backup at Celtic, though reports are promising.

Not surprised that Legia Warsaw have lodged an appeal to Uefa to be re-instated into the Champions League, they have to try everything possible.  It has not been confirmed what ground Legia have appealed on, however, at the weekend, Polish FA chief exec, Zbigniew Boniek, suggested an appeal would be made on two grounds:

That only one member of the UEFA Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body was at the hearing to made the decision, and

That Legia were not given the chance to make a submission to the Body.

There are 10 members of the Disciplinary Body and rules state that decisions require the attendance of at least three, unless the case is “urgent”, when a decision can be taken by one member.  To defend their process, Uefa need to insist that the circumstances were urgent, probably citing the Champions League play-off draw, which was due to take place two hours later.

While the Disciplinary Body allow submissions to be made prior to a hearing, Article 34 authorises the Body to undertake a hearing without submissions and “in the absence of one or all of the parties”.

In the unlikely event Legia won an appeal on procedural grounds, a subsequent hearing, perhaps with more Disciplinary Body members in attendance, would take place, and would inevitably reach the same conclusion.

Article 21, paragraph 2, of the Uefa Disciplinary Regulations state, “A match is declared forfeit if a player who has been suspended following a disciplinary decision participates in the match.”  There is no ambiguity or lateral for the Disciplinary Body to exercise a different reprimand.

Legia’s appeals can carry on all the way to the Court of Arbitration for Sport but Celtic will not be involved in any future issues.  NK Maribor represent a vastly, vastly, greater risk to their Champions League aspirations.

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  1. New strategies? Dead simple. Sell off the dross. Only buy good players. Score goals for fun. Don`t concede any. Move to the EPL. Win it. Also win the Champions League Trophy. Everybody happy with that? This lark is so easy, i`m surprised no one has thought of it before.

  2. the glorious balance sheet on

    Rioskorrie 1543

     

     

    Normally a good thing if systems and back room processes keep functioning despite a change of manager.

     

     

    However the signing record over the last 2 and a half years and the systems and back room staff that recommended these systems need looked at. Too many failures in that time beyond what would be expected by law of averages.

     

     

    I prefer the manager to have the final say on signings within the budgetary constraints in which we work. If they are being judged it should be on their players and their decisions.

     

     

    For example Jock Brown tried to overrule Wim Jansen on the signing of Paul Lambert and tried to impose Jim Magilton instead. Thankfully Wim stood his ground on that one although the bad feeling caused led to him leaving.

     

     

    Ronny was quite clear 3 weeks ago in that loan signings were not ideal. Now they seem to be the only signings being made despite the cash taken in from sales and last years CL run.

     

     

    I don’t want Ronny bring judged on other peoples flawed decisions or being sickened out the door. Especially when the people making the flawed decisions are still here and we go through it all again with the next manager.

  3. Just Another Tim

     

     

    15:30

     

     

    For a start that’s £5.2m/year before you add 11% NI which would bring it to £5.9m… Our wage bill 2 years ago was £33m, not sure what it is now but those two players would eat up almost 18% of the total wage budget.

     

     

    But as others have said, it’s more about then having to increase others’ wages when it comes around and new signings demanding more.

     

     

    So contrary to Neg Anon’s assessment on RD’s PR skills I think it’s exactly what he should be saying, to ward off any players/agents who try to play on the Celtic of old’s reputation for paying inflated wages for unproven players.

     

     

    Why should Scott Brown move from say £4k a week to £25k a week – that makes no sense whatsoever!

  4. From KDS a South Korean poster.

     

    Hearing Celtic are reviving their interest in Kim Shin-wook. Tried to get him last season but fee could not be agreed. He was top scorer in K-League last season and has already hit 7 in 8 this season.

  5. Some of the nuggets on here would walk into a job at the Samaritans……….naw……..wait. Ah mean EXIT

  6. charles kickham on

    Just read the article and I’ve come to the conclusion that Paul67 has no real work to do and can sit and read procedural documents from UEFA all day – or he is being fed this information

  7. the glorious balance sheet on

    Tonev already has a knock?

     

     

    He is getting his application to join balde biton and pukki in the corner flag gang in really early!

  8. latchford…

     

     

    Can’t disagree with that reasoned argument.

     

     

    I wish I believed that the power brokers at cp now accept that.

     

     

    PS….

     

     

    The Douglas/Broto thing… said from the outset MON should buy Anti Nieme (sp) from Hearts. If he had that period would have been even more glorious than it was!

  9. the_northern_tim on

    I’ve always wondered why teams like Porto are allowed to sign talented kids from South America. Considering they (for the next two weeks anyway) operate in the same business market as Celtic, is it not against competition law that we can’t hire employees they can due to British work permit rules?

     

     

    Quite sure there’s some reason for it, anyone know?

  10. I think if denayar plays a good number of games for us and does well then City will probably loan him to us next season also. He’s only 19 so in all fairness he’s probably a bit young even for a couple of seasons to be playing for a top 4 side in the EPL. I think we should just enjoy having him in the hoops. Kompany is the best centre back playing in England and imagine we had had him playing for us for a couple of seasons when he was 19.

  11. Hamiltontim

     

    14:01 on

     

    12 August, 2014

     

    Folks I have 2 tickets for The Killers at Ballahouston Park next Tuesday for sale if anyone is interested.

     

     

    They’re £55 each.

     

     

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    £110 to take them off you,

     

    if you stretch to £150 I might.

     

     

     

    different musical tastes csc.

  12. tgbs

     

     

    …. good to hear I’m no the only one that suffers from the “fat fingers / fiddly phone” text malaise!

     

     

    Agree with you. However, is it no then more apt to say that your principle criticism is of the system itself, not whoever the manager just so happens to be?

     

     

    Be that so, what do we consider as a realistic acceptable “strike rate” when signing players – 90%, 50%, 30%?

     

     

    I s’pose it’s venturing into the fitba’s a business, but it’s an anomoulous business, area of discussion?

  13. tgbs…

     

     

    I think Vincent Kompany may have been but 17 when he played for Anderlecht against MONs Celtic!

     

     

    Our new guy may not be that good but for me its not the age but the quality.

  14. !!bada bing!!

     

     

    15:57 on 12 August, 2014

     

     

    Must be a translation error. Surely 7 goals in 8 seasons.

  15. Glendalystonsils

     

    Yeah I like pony tails, especially on a horses arse. And we have a good few of them round Celtic park, do we not!!

     

     

    KINGLuBO

  16. So let’s get this straight. Celtic get slaughtered for not signing players. When they do sign players, they get slaughtered because it’s a loan-to-buy deal. Then when it looks like a good deal, they get slaughtered because it’s not a Ronny Deila deal.

     

     

    Are we to assume that when RD took the job, all the potential new players should have been summarily erased from the scouting database, because they were scouted before his arrival?

     

     

    For people who constantly make it up as they go along regarding how Celtic operate, they sure make it obvious that they know sod all about football.

  17. squire danaher on

    Smacks of rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic

     

     

    Our home stadium is CELTIC PARK

     

     

    The Hun and lazy Scoddish journalists refer to our home as Parkhead as a geographically based bookend to Ibrox

     

     

    BTW the same people also use the even more nonsensical term Southern Ireland and refer to places of worship as “Chapels”

     

     

    FFS if the BBC UK people could use the name Celtic Park without difficulty during the Commonwealth Games why shouldn’t we INSIST in calling out home by its proper name

  18. the_northern_tim

     

    15:59 on

     

    12 August, 2014

     

    I’ve always wondered why teams like Porto are allowed to sign talented kids from South America. Considering they (for the next two weeks anyway) operate in the same business market as Celtic, is it not against competition law that we can’t hire employees they can due to British work permit rules?

     

     

    Quite sure there’s some reason for it, anyone know?

     

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    Its because Scotland does not have control of work permits/immigration……thats a London gig……..

     

     

    Portugal however has control……..same as Spain….oh and probably every other country in Europe except Scotland……

     

     

    Mmmmm……

  19. Coolmore Mafia on

    the glorious balance sheet

     

     

    Also I don’t know of any Celtic fans who would ever bet against the team. I know of plenty who think the current team is not up to much but none would ever bet against us. It’s not the done thing.

     

     

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    I can’t bet on Celtic. Makes it unbearable. I think I will jinx them. Occasionally I will bet against Celtic to ease the pain by 1%. Those sort of bets I don’t mind losing. It becomes a win win bet.

  20. Northern Tim,

     

     

    Canny vouch for all of Porto’s Latin Anerican signing, but a lot of Brasilians have (or mysteriously find) they have dual nationality, Portugese, Italian and Spanish being the most common.

     

     

    That gets them in as EEC signings.

     

     

    Then there’s the whole historical/cultural/social/language bond between Portugal and Brasil which makes it so attractive for youngsters (let’s face fitba at Pittodrie/Rugby Park, Dingwall etc, etc on a dreech mid winter/week game makes even locals think twice about the “attractions” of Scottish fitba).

     

     

    Maybe not 100% of an answer for you, but a good part of it, I think.

  21. glendalystonsils on

    justafan

     

    15:50 on

     

    12 August, 2014

     

    glendaly….

     

     

    Best seen on ponies!

     

     

     

    We’ve got a few Clydesdales on our books but nae ponies>}

  22. Tom McLaughlin

     

     

    Good post!

     

     

    I’ve been on this blog for 5 years and I can’t remember so much negativity or such a bleak outlook for the club and fans.

     

     

    We are the reigning champion, we are in the CL play off round!

     

     

    IMO you should get behind the team or, well you know what….

     

     

    Some people are never happy unless they are greetin’!!!

     

     

    C’MON THE CELTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  23. greendreamz

     

     

     

    16:09 on 12 August, 2014

     

     

     

    the_northern_tim

     

    15:59 on

     

    12 August, 2014

     

    I’ve always wondered why teams like Porto are allowed to sign talented kids from South America. Considering they (for the next two weeks anyway) operate in the same business market as Celtic, is it not against competition law that we can’t hire employees they can due to British work permit rules?

     

     

    Quite sure there’s some reason for it, anyone know?

     

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

     

     

    Its because Scotland does not have control of work permits/immigration……thats a London gig……..

     

     

    Portugal however has control……..same as Spain….oh and probably every other country in Europe except Scotland……

     

     

    Mmmmm……

     

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    That’s the way – pour oil on troubled waters…!

     

     

    ;-)))))))

  24. !!Bada Bing!!

     

    12:48 on

     

    12 August, 2014

     

    derbyshirebhoy

     

     

    11:43 on 12 August, 2014

     

     

    bada bing

     

     

    No but the timing is wrong to spend now till the appeal result is known

     

    Totally immaterial if LG appeal is successful or not, a convenient excuse .So if we don’t make Europe, ST holders can take a bath for their money? We needed a striker and a playmaker this time last year, and look how that turned out in the CL last season….

     

     

    Needed them a lot longer than this time last year.

     

    All this reluctance to splash out when the club, relatively speaking, is awash with money is alarming.

     

     

    Is it simply a tight fistedness driven lack of ambition or is there some financial time bomb ticking at CP.

  25. Paul..,,,

     

     

    Any chance if you getting an opportunity to run some questions by Peter Lawell?

     

     

    This blog has descended into hysteria and other assorted strains if madness.

     

     

    My real concern us that I am finding myself agreeing with some if the maddies……

     

     

    Seriously, few folk understand what our strategy now is. Either the strategy that we thought we understood is being badly applied – or some completely different strategy is being implemented.

     

     

    We hear nothing from our decision makers. A wee bit if clarity might help clear the air.

     

     

    Just a thought…,,,,

  26. MIbbe Mr Lawell could carry out a 120 day review then tell us all about it.

     

     

    Makes sense tae me!

  27. Just Another Tim on

    Malone Bhoy

     

    15:56 on

     

    12 August, 2014

     

    Just Another Tim

     

     

    15:30

     

     

    For a start that’s £5.2m/year before you add 11% NI which would bring it to £5.9m… Our wage bill 2 years ago was £33m, not sure what it is now but those two players would eat up almost 18% of the total wage budget.

     

     

    But as others have said, it’s more about then having to increase others’ wages when it comes around and new signings demanding more.

     

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    Thanks, that was what I was looking for when I asked about the kind of impact it would have. 18%, jeez!

     

     

    I can understand what yourself and Doc is referring to now. This is where the disharmony comes in. I have often wondered why we don’t offer more to players of better quality and this is probably the major factor in what drives our transfer policy.

     

     

    As ever, it all comes down to the income we generate. The sad fact is, due to the geographical location in which we play our domestic football, in reality, we will never be able to buy anyone above the 30k a week mark. The benefit of that being, team morale stays intact. Quite ironic really.

  28. Finally felt able to watch Jock Stein from BBC Alba, thankfully had the house to myself, brought it all back, unable to move for a while, still have tears in my eyes.

     

    We owe him so much, puts other stuff into perspective.

  29. fencelt

     

     

    16:16 on 12 August, 2014

     

     

    Just heard the buns on sevcomedia have written a letter to maccabi Haifa to tell them about Celtic and the state aid case. :-) HH

  30. greendreamz

     

     

    16:09 on 12 August, 2014

     

     

    Perhaps the reason so few South Americans come to Scotland is more to do with this being the only country in the footballing world where a player has been booked for blessing himself than anything those English basturts have done.

     

     

    Just a thought.

  31. weeron 16:19 on 12 August, 2014

     

    Paul..,,,

     

    Any chance if you getting an opportunity to run some questions by Peter Lawell?

     

    This blog has descended into hysteria and other assorted strains if madness.

     

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    Doubt that the hysteria and madness on this blog represents many true Celtic supporters

  32. 15:59 on

     

    12 August, 2014

     

    I’ve always wondered why teams like Porto are allowed to sign talented kids from South America. Considering they (for the next two weeks anyway) operate in the same business market as Celtic, is it not against competition law that we can’t hire employees they can due to British work permit rules?

     

     

    Quite sure there’s some reason for it, anyone know?

     

     

    Cannot give you a specific answer.

     

     

    However, if I recall correctly it was suggested that one of the purposes to take the odious John Reid on Board, was that as a former Home Secretary, he would have the influence to help Celtic circumvent the British immigration laws preventing the signing of kids from South America etc.

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