Policing and Celtic

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I spoke to Celtic today about various questions surrounding stewarding and policing in and around the stadium.

The club would not be specific on any particular incident but I got a run down on various instances (alleged assault, vandalism) when Celtic have responded to police requests for identifying information on fans.  Celtic said the police can only ask for identifying information if they allege a crime has been committed and Celtic’s safety certificate, allowing them to open the stadium, depends on the club complying with police requests if they allege a crime has been committed.

The club were clear that complying with police requests on such instances is not a matter of choice for Celtic, “It happens, it has always happened, and it happens at every other club in the UK”.

I asked if the club target fans and ask the police to arrest them.  I was told this is ludicrous to suggest the police do the bidding of the club (I was also laughed at for making the suggestion).  Celtic can revoke tickets and stadium access without recourse to the police.

My conversation happened before anyone at Celtic heard last night’s podcast from the HomeBhoys but I asked specific questions about the red haired fan discussed who was allegedly brandishing a seat and was told no police request had been received in connection to him and that his details had therefore not been passed to the police.

I understand the club have met with various supporters’ groups and clarified these issues, as well as more general stadium safety matters, and that they will issue a statement later today in response to questions asked by the Celtic Trust, who I believe put many of these points in writing.

After speaking to Celtic I spoke to a police officer who is a regular Match Commander at SPL games (not Celtic games) who confirmed clubs would lose their safety certificate if they failed to cooperate with the police.

Having had the chance to put questions to Celtic I asked them give others the same opportunity and to unconditionally meet with any fans’ group with concerns on any of these matters. They assured me they would.

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  1. celticrollercoaster on

    Oldtim67

     

     

    Be wary of men called Tim from Blantyre, Nigeria offering financial advice in exchange for pin/sort codes :-)

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  2. CRC

     

     

    I have signed the official secrets act and I know my data protection law..

     

    so Mr TimOld will be fine…

  3. celticrollercoaster on

    TootingTim

     

    22:19 on

     

    26 March, 2013

     

     

    How u doing my friend? Looking to go to warmer climates this weekend. If I do not get sorted, then we can sort a beer!

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  4. johann murdoch on

    Oldtim

     

    Thank you -will catch up with you in person at the hibs game – tried to phone you this week hh

  5. BT

     

     

    Sounds sore, if you’re needing any lifts or picked up dropped off give me a shout….

     

    See you next Friday with oldtim and we can have a chat…

     

     

    Kikinthenakas

  6. cheers johan..

     

     

    month away so hoping to get a bevvy on day before semi final or mybe that day as wee maybe bhoycotting Humpden

  7. pedrocaravanachio67 on

    Scotland v Wales & Serbia

     

     

    Pass marks : Hanley & Bridcutt

     

     

    Get rid : Hutton, Caldwell, Maloney, snakesmith, Misser.

     

     

    in the balance : Adam & whittaker.

     

     

    WGS got 4/5 games to get a squad together for the Euro qualifiers.

  8. celticrollercoaster on

    blantyretim

     

    22:14 on

     

    26 March, 2013

     

     

    U were talking b4 about a fundraising nite, so if that is the case let me know? I am sure we could get a few CQNers across to support the club.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  9. CrC

     

     

    will have a chat with my oldman about that…

     

     

    maybe another Q&A as it would be interesting with the goings on at boardroom level

     

     

    nakas.. cheers see you nxt Friday

  10. celticrollercoaster on

    blantyretim

     

    22:32 on

     

    26 March, 2013

     

     

    Think that would be a great idea for a wee night

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  11. Tooting tim.

     

     

    I could do with having a good drink but it’s a bit too cold to venture out,saving myself for the following week,going to Wishaw to meet a few friends,a few drinks,Hibs game, back to Wishaw for a few more drinks,night club Saturday night,home on Sunday.Good Weekend.

  12. Snake Plissken on

    Seriously,

     

     

    when the draw was made you could have made a bet that Scotland would not win a game and it would have been a good bet.

     

     

    Losing twice to Wales is unheard of but onyl Scotland could achieve this ignominy.

     

     

    Anyway – this is now a building process so we’ll see but bringing through thugs, losers and no hopers needs to finish

  13. BFSDJ makes some great statements like…”obviously charles green talks to influential people in England,i don’t know”……..WTF?

  14. blantyretim

     

     

    22:33 on

     

    26 March, 2013

     

    jude..nothing wrong with my kidneys mate..

     

     

    my liver is goosed though… o))

     

     

    >>>>>>{

     

     

    Are you going in for an opp or are they just having a gander?

  15. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    Doctor Whatfor

     

    20:26 on

     

    26 March, 2013

     

    Thomthetim and macjay1 for Neil Lennon

     

    Whereas it is recognised that the marchers did not abide by the rules the issue is about the proportionality of the police response. One does not expect riot police tactics if you put your feet up on the table.

     

    Jist sayin.’

     

     

    That`s your assessment of the issue.

     

    This is mine.

     

    The G.B.have a political agenda,as do the Celtic trust.

     

    They wish to promote that agenda.

     

    They use Celtic to do so,because they have nowhere else to go and the rest of the sane world has consigned that agenda to the trashcan of history where it belongs.

     

    Che lives perhaps,but his victims are dead and tragically still dying.

     

    No sane person wishes to return to the class struggle which produced 10 ish years of Margaret Thatcher.In all probability these young people are living out the unfulfilled dreams and political ambitions of their fathers.

     

    They don`t care what possible detrimental effects their activities have on the Club which they attempt to blackmail by threatening to boycott or boycotting games or causing the Club embarrassment as they did with their recent illegal march,by the upside down banners about John Reid or by their offensive “poppy protest.”

     

    Very entertaining they are,but ,frankly,I look for entertainment on the field.

     

     

    There is a word for an organism which uses another for its own survival to the detriment of the host.

     

    Now,you can`t use that word about the G.B.

     

    They just don`t know any better.Others should.

     

    But they care more about their entryism, than they do about the welfare of Celtic.

     

    Hail Hail

  16. Olde timmy

     

     

    Six digit number … try a date your familiar with such as … 250567

  17. sipsini

     

     

    nothing to do with my internal organs mate..

     

     

    it is an old leg fracture which needs reset.. 28 years later…

  18. Bt

     

    Get mrs bt to leave an onion in your bag when you visit the hospital … goes well with the liver

  19. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    Doctor Whatfor

     

    20:26 on

     

    26 March, 2013

     

    Thomthetim and macjay1 for Neil Lennon

     

    Whereas it is recognised that the marchers did not abide by the rules the issue is about the proportionality of the police response. One does not expect riot police tactics if you put your feet up on the table.

     

    Jist sayin.’

     

     

    That`s your assessment of the issue.

     

    This is mine.

     

    The G.B.have a political agenda,as do the Celtic trust.

     

    They wish to promote that agenda.

     

    They use Celtic to do so,because they have nowhere else to go and the rest of the sane world has consigned that agenda to the trashcan of history where it belongs.

     

    Che lives perhaps,but his victims are dead and tragically still dying.

     

    No sane person wishes to return to the class struggle which produced 10 ish years of Margaret Thatcher.In all probability these young people are living out the unfulfilled dreams and political ambitions of their fathers who suffered under Thatcherism.

     

    Maybe they haven`t noticed,but she`s gone.

     

    They don`t care what possible detrimental effects their activities have on the Club which they attempt to blackmail by threatening to boycott or boycotting games or causing the Club embarrassment as they did with their recent illegal march,by the upside down banners about John Reid or by their offensive “poppy protest.”

     

    Very entertaining they are,but ,frankly,I look for entertainment on the field.

     

     

    There is a word for an organism which uses another for its own survival to the detriment of the host.

     

    Now,you can`t use that word about the G.B.

     

    They just don`t know any better.Others should.

     

    But they care more about their entryism than they do about the welfare of Celtic.

     

    Hail Hail

  20. Bt

     

    Do they not need to break the leg then reset it

     

    You could auction off the deed for wee Oscar. .. ;)

  21. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    Bottom line…? ……compare the progress of the ROI and Wales international teams with that of Scotland and the north of ireland …….common factor …. ‘caps’ policies over many decades …. You reap whatbyou sw …… I, for one, became aware of the ‘policy’ 44 years ago, and haven’t been to a Scotland game since …….. and I haven’t been to an away game for 20 years since football rivalry is one thing….!!!!!!

  22. Johann Murdoch.

     

     

    Been in bed most of the week,but not to answer phone is not unusual for me,I’m one of those people who doesn’t carry the phone about..As will have noticed,I’m in Wishaw next weekend,I’m going to the game in their supporters bus so won’t know what time I shall be in to the game, I don’t think they will be late as I used to meet up with a few before the game in the Springy vaults I’ll speak to WG,and find out what time they get to the stadium.I’ll get to the Stadium around Half two I hope?.

  23. pedrocaravanachio67 on

    zimmerman

     

     

     

    22:38 on 26 March, 2013

     

     

     

    heard that last night……exactly WTF?

     

     

    Someone had posted earlier on that as the end music faded out on SSB last night, he was heard shouting “140 years of history…140 years of history”

     

     

    Davie the accountant had Fraser Wishart tied in knots tonight, whilst Gordon “oot ma depth” deeellll sat in silence….clueless.

     

     

    Davie, if your out there, well done and get in aboot them again.

  24. Thought it a bitova longshot, thanks for the replies ghuys:)

     

     

    CRC, stick to Plan A mate…:)

     

     

    Hail, hail

  25. The Boy Jinky.

     

     

    If I can knock a couple of digits of it will be no problem,I’ve three other cards and they all have the same four digits.

  26. pedrocaravanachio67 on

    The Boy Jinky

     

     

     

    22:41 on 26 March, 2013

     

     

     

    Olde timmy

     

     

    Six digit number … try a date your familiar with such as … 250567

     

     

    ————————————————–

     

     

    or 140212 :-)

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