We are five days away from the end of the season, Duff and Phelps have spent 10 weeks trying to solicit an offer for the assets of the company and the only one they were in a position to consider has now been withdrawn.
The stadium remains in Craig Whyte’s hands.
The SPL has not offered a place in the league.
The players can choose to become free agents on Sunday.
Duff and Phelps have no money to pay anyone or anything after 31 May.
Are you getting the picture?
Whatever ‘good news’ Duff and Phelps come out with later, or ‘Rangers to benefit from Miller withdrawal’ you read about tomorrow, not one piece of positive news has gone Rangers way in weeks.
This is a dead football club. If there was an accountancy term beyond liquidation, perhaps uber-liquidation, they would be uber-liquidated (there’s not, but if this gets any worse the English language will need some re-work).
Yesterday’s delay was the most complete confirmation possible, for anyone still harbouring doubt, today’s message from Miller should be no surprise to Celtic Quick News readers.
Miller’s parting shot:
“After hearing the message from Rangers supporters and fans loud and clear (“Yank go home!”), I notified the administrators today that I have withdrawn my bid for Rangers”.
…has the makings of a topic for a business doctorate, if anyone is looking for one. I’d elaborate but reckon we’re all a little carried away at the moment for serious debate.
The histrionics since yesterday and, if you don’t mind me saying, lack of appreciation of these historic times, would dishonour teenage girls (no offense teenage girls).
Please stop with all the silliness, indignation and faux trauma. Some football supporters have real issues to worry about.
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Oh the hunscum are DUMB!
Awe Naw, The 9 o`clock watershed is in the evening! Obviously you are in a different time zone………
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 9 May, 2012 at 09:48 said:
C’mon man, some people are trying to eat.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 9 May, 2012 at 09:48
Not sure whether I feel violated or sick.after that;-)
I need to get the imagery out of my mind.
LuboJinky
Kay excused her ignorance of EBTs. She said she wasn’t really up on football.
Christina Hendricks’ bosom. (thumbsup)
I’m listening to Radio 1 – nice to hear Tiny Tempah (featuring Rita Ora) has composed a tribute to the buns – “RIP to the RFC”
Philvisreturns
I heard your alma mater was making headlines in the Sun today.
SPF
Gorbalstam
Silly me did not catch the poster ,but hey ho Awe Naw really is honing his skills regards reading between the lines of the peepil
LOL
Oh it is such a wonderful day, there must be something REALLY good happening at the minute!!!!!
Thank Ghod i’m a Tim
ScotPatsFan – Good news I’m sure. (thumbsup)
3 new bidders –
1. paul murray and the blue knights
2. russ abbot and the black abbots
3. brian kennedy and the sale sharks (how ironic a name)
Looks like RFCia need more advice, as they have never listened before I don’t know why I bother.
BUT
It’s obvious D&P don’t know how to run proper due diligence. Well it’s all about technique…
Now they reckon they have all the documentation from the Whyte Knight’s due diligence, if they look carefully through the documents from Charlotte Square they will find.
”Look into my eyes, look into my eyes, the eyes, the eyes, not around the eyes, don’t look around the eyes, look into my eyes. [Click] Look at the ledger you will see succulence galore… sign here_______________”
Sorry Guys but this is how life is over here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPN3a0R3iEk
Hail Hail
Good Morning.
On a freezing cold winter’s night, a young schoolteacher stood in the taxi queue in Gordon Street Glasgow close to the entrance of the Central Hotel.
A few yards down the road, a car drew up and man got out out of the rear of the vehicle, pulled his coat around him and walked straight through the revolving doors into the warmth of the Central Hotel. The schoolteacher was about to turn his attention elsewhere, when out of the corner of his eye he saw the same man come straight back out of the hotel door and start to make a bee line towards him. Despite the cold, he suddenly felt trickles of sweat roll down his back, especially when the man stopped right in front of him.
” You’re the guy from the BBC?” said the man
” Yes”
” Well tell your bosses that they had better start getting their Cameras to Celtic park, to cover the goals- because we are going to score barrel loads. Tell them to send a good Cameraman– Eddie McConnell— and tell them if they don’t, all the good stuff will go to the “sportsjacket”!”
And on that note, Jock Stein turned on his heel and re-entered the Central Hotel leaving a young Archie McPherson freezing and sweating in Gordon Street.
At the time of this meeting, Stein’s Celtic had won precisely nothing.
In the ’60’s BBC Scotland sport was run by Peter Thompson and Roy Small, and it would be fair to say that both men were vehemently anti Celtic– I will go no further.
TV Coverage of Celtic games by the BBC would often miss any goals and just show pictures of the ground suddenly celebrating. Stein wanted to change that. He wanted people to see his Celtic and what they could do. He knew there was no reason for poor coverage and he could even name the requisite cameraman- Eddie McConnell.
It is to Archie McPherson’s eternal credit that he argued with Thompson and Small that Celtic should get better coverage, and it is to his even greater credit that when Stein effectively banned the BBC from Celtic Park a short time later, McPherson walked up Kerrydale Street to see the Celtic manager on his own initiative and in his own time to see if there was anyway that this impasse could be broken. McPherson sensed that Celtic would be a story under this man and that BBC Scotland were set to miss it.
When he got to meet the Celtic Manager, Stein asked him a number of questions one of which was: ” What have you ( the BBC ) ever done for these people?”.
And it is with that one question that I will end that particular story.
” What have you ( The BBC ) ever done for these people?”.
My question this morning is– who was Stein referring to when he said “These people”?
At the time he was employed as Manager by Celtic Football and Athletic Club Ltd.
Do you think he meant the shareholders? The Kelly’s. The White’s , The Grants and so on?
Not a chance!
He didn’t mean the players — although they could be included in the group that he did mean.
No he meant the fans, the supporters, the people who came through the gates — the very soul and lifeblood of Celtic. “Without fans who pay at the turnstile, football is nothing. Sometimes we are inclined to forget that. The only chance of bringing them into stadiums is if they are entertained by what happens on the football field.”
However, Stein saw even further and beyond the fans of his own club. He made it plain that he wanted the neutral to want Celtic to win, to play in a certain way which forced the neutral to remember Celtic, how they played football, and effectively what they stood for. Stein saw beyond Scotland, and saw the good ship Celtic sail on a sea which knew no horizons.
Celtic is a club first and foremost… that happens to play football, amongst other things. From its very outset it had a social element, bringing the people of the East end and beyond together in a common purpose. Together they built a stadium, raised money, did charitable works with that money, organised themselves, socialised together, worked together, laughed together, cried together, mourned together and just were simply” together”. A community, a family of friends, neighbours and complete and utter strangers.
Stein, for all his influence was in charge of the football team, just as Neil Lennon is today. Other people– other “These People” were and are in charge of other aspects of the club– media, charity, business and so on. Today, Celtic is a huge organisation– built around a football team but in no way limited to the activities of that team. Walfrid’s vision was not to create just a football team– but to create a football team for a far wider social purpose. A good purpose, which would hopefully make the lives of “These People” all the better, whether that be as a result of Penny Dinners, a social coming together, watching or even playing for the football team or whatever.
Accordingly when I pay for my season tickets each year, in my eyes that is me paying my annual subscription to the club. In return I get the benefit of seat in the stand for each home game…. among other things.
When you buy a share in a company, you only pay for the share once and in normal circumstances you legally become part owner of the company and hopefully get a return on your investment. Such normal commercial sense doesn’t work that way with Celtic.. or many other football clubs. Just as the White’s, Kelly’s, Grants and so on were not “These People” to Stein, so are the shareholders and Directors of Celtic PLC not “These people” in my eyes.
Yes they are part of “These People” but they do not own Celtic Football Club in my eyes just because they have a few shares in Celtic PLC. Legally they are the owners of the “club” in terms of the rules and laws– but no limited company or any other individual can ever claim true ownership of the Celtic dream– my Celtic Dream, your Celtic dream, the guy down the road’s Celtic dream, Walfrid’s Celtic dream, Big Jock’s Celtic dream or whoever. That part of the Celtic parcel is never for sale, for rent, to be mortgaged or anything else.
And so it follows that my yearly investment in things Celtic, the Club that is Celtic, the ethos that is Celtic, is ever going to be influenced by the incompetence ( financial or otherwise ) of say the chairman of Kilmarnock FC or anyone else.
Scottish Football, as governed by the SFA, is the forum in which the Celtic Football team is forced to play by dint of sheer Geography and locale. The SFA can be run badly or well. It can be honest or corrupt. It can be competent or incompetent. It can be whatever it chooses to be but it does not have the ability to dictate or sway my choice of following and participating in my club and my vision for my club.
I have never met Peter Lawell, Neil Lennon, Dermot Desmond or any other Celtic Director. I would not agree with all of the business decisions of any of them- or of anyone else for that matter- as I am an individual with my own views and beliefs on every subject. However part of a corporate or a community movement is that your own individual view sometimes has to make way for the majority. Equally, in any corporate or community project you have to delegate certain functions to others and trust in their judgement. That does not prevent you from airing your views or making your voice heard.
Do I trust Messrs Lawell, Lennon and Desmond– yes I do. Again I will say that I would do things differently to them– for example £50 for a team strip is ridiculous as is the price of the corporate seats at Celtic park– but overall I trust their custodianship of part of “My Club”. Desmond’s investment in Celtic whilst significant in local money terms is but a patch on his own personal wealth and investment powers. He could buy and sell Rangers without missing the money should he so choose, but he invested in Celtic the club not in a football team that makes money and shows a regular return of the highest order, If that were his level of interest he would have invested the same amount of money elsewhere and in another industry altogether where he would have earned more quicker.
A few months ago I met with the new CEO of the charities division at Celtic Park and he told me of the clubs plans in that area. They are different to what has happened before. Radical in certain ways but at the same time show a direct link to the basic Ideas of the founding fathers of the club. They were exciting… and sounded like good fun too, ticking all the right boxes for me personally.
So, on this debate about season tickets- Celtic will be getting their annual subscription frorm me. I will not pay a penny to other clubs unless the football league is run properly. I will not support the SFA if I view their administration to be improper and will boycott their competitions and teams. I will invest money in other pursuits and let them know if necessary. I will protest , walk away and publicly damn football as it is run in this country but I will not deprive my club of their subs. That does not mean to say that I will not seek to hold the PLC board to account, nor does it mean that I will automatically accept and use the season tickets themselves. Long ago, I sent Season Tickets back to Jack McGinn ( a long term friend of my father’s ) in protest at certain things which I thought were not being dealt with properly by the club. If protest is needed I will protest to whatever organisation or individual needs to be addressed and I will try and make sure that my point of view is heard.
Next week, I am off to Barcelona with some pals. I will have in my bag a newly bought scarf or T shirt or something Celtic to give to a waiter or waitress or someone I meet. I will watch the Champions League final in Catalonia and probably I will be wearing something that is green and white and which lets the neutral know I am a Celtic man. Hopefully I will play a wee part in creating a Catalonian Celtic fan– whether he or she be a follower of Barcelona FC, Espanyol or not a football fan at all.
The good ship Celtic sails on a sea that knows no Horizons and its course will not be dictated by the idiocy of Scottish Football Administration, The impecuniousness of other clubs, nor by a vote by the self interested blazer types behind closed doors.
Celtic Football Club was built from the very ground up by “These people”.
I am and always will be one of them— Football or No Football, Rangers or no Rangers, Season Ticket or no Season Ticket.
new article posted.
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Kano 1000 on 9 May, 2012 at 10:04
Another great post, but did your mammy ever tell you you were a blether?:)
The most important thing about the Trust/ Doncaster meeting notes is the confusion they have caused – and I think that is deliberate on his part.
Transfers, registration and TUPE are all different things. But the notes use them all without clarification.
CVA and Newco are very different things – yet Doncaster claims they are similar. And this is a clear strategy – a means of minimising the decision that would allow a Newco into the SPL. He wants us to think it would just be a slightly reconfigured Rangers, so why the fuss?
Instead it is a means of getting a brand new football club to start its life in the SPL.
Imagine if a new club was formed in East Kilbrid, or wherevere. It builds a stadium and asks to join the SPL, It would be told very quickly to go talk to the folk who run the third division – if they have a vacancy.
The trick that they are trying to pull is exactly the same. But they think by dressing the Newco up in red, white and blue and saying it would play at Ibrox no one will notice.
And that’s where UEFA comes in. The SPL cannot award a Club License which any club needs to play in its league. Only the SFA can do that. And a newco must be a member of the SFA for three years before it can receivesthe UEFA Club Licence necessary to play in the SPL. Those are clear, black and white rules. Not ones that can be changed or finessed.
Now the SFA could ignore the rules. But then UEFA would step in. Ask the Swiss FA what happens if you tangle with UEFA,
The SFA cannot award an exception to the three year rule – but UEFA could. And if the newco joining the league was some minor local issue then UEFA might not care too much. They might just let it go.
But this would drive a coach and horses through the whole notion of Financial Fair Play – UEFA’s big idea and Michel Platini’s big pet project. Make no mistake: if UEFA let this Newco into the SPL they open up a can of worms that will be examined all over Europe with repercussions in every league.
UEFA would have a choice of keeping its big project on track or helping a club in Scotland to avoid the rules. Which do you think it would do?
Philvisreturns
I haven’t read the article, but I was sent a picture on f/b of a banner hanging from a walkway that links two of the buildings. It was put up by some of the pupils that are leaving this year. It says on it, ‘The Huns are goin’ bust’, with a picture of Hector on it. My daughter is in P7 there, so we got an email this morning from an irate headmaster. I’m sure he is more concerned with the spelling than the content! I wonder if the Sun article focuses on the ‘H’ word? I’ll find out and let you know.
SPF
Classic aw naws tonight. I’ve been laughing all day and CQN has only made me laugh more. Miller time was good if a bit short. What’s next on the fun list. A hun at the Rod Stewart concert told me that the Queen would buy them. She already has a big hoose.
Well done to Neil , James and Charlie for hugely deserved awards on the park and for paying all you taxes from your legitimate contracts.
going….going…..
Union Jackson on talks port, talking usual rubbish
Apparently, it was ” no surprise” miller walked away.
Can someone point me in the direction of unions articles to this effect?
This. Clown is responsible for taking the story uk wide. He is a fool.
Morning bhoys, very warm on the hun free mountain range.
Tom MgLaughlin
I never said that RTC should reveal his identity, I was replying to another poster, I said that speculating was what people do, I also said that the likes of Paul and Phil do not feel the need to obscure their identity, nothing there about wanting to know who he is.
Next time you feel the need to critisise, please read my posts correctly first :>)
The exiled Tim
Bit touchie on this happy day…???…
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Kano 1000 on 9 May, 2012 at 10:04 said:
Good Morning.
Excellent post,I too am going to Barcelona next week & I´d love to meet up with you for a drink pal.I´ll be there from Wed.15th until Monday 16th.
Fellow tim for 50 + years
Sorry should be Monday 21st.I´m a Dummy.