If anyone tells you we are about to bid €7m on a guy who scored fewer league goals than Billy McKay last season, and who was signed for €500k last summer, don’t listen to them. Nonsense like this is 180 degrees away from strategy. Where would such a player’s sell-on value increase to? It’s just not going to happen, nor should it, it would be a vanity purchase, the likes of which old Zsa Zsa himself would consider.
The last season we have figures for (season 2011-12), when we had Europa League football, Celtic lost £7m. Since then three significant things have changed:
We’ve sold Wanyama and Hooper for over £17m (before deductions).
We got back into the Champions League and earned an additional £20m.
Season book sales dropped and this season cost £100 less than before.
Cutting £100 off the ticket price will bring in £4m less than last season. All other things being equal (which they will not be), this would give us an £11m deficit before Champions League income and any trading surplus. In short, to retain equilibrium, we need to reach the Champions League group stage more often than not. Money from Uefa is not so much a bonus, it is necessary to push us into the black.
I know we covered this last week, but £17m for Victor and Gary will not, on its own, equate to £17m for new players. Gary and Victor were both on their first Celtic contracts when they left, neither of which was near the top earning position (although both were offered top earning contracts).
We’re not going to spend £17m on transfers and be able to pay the new players from the money saved by not paying Victor and Gary. Instead, the boost to the football budget from these sales will almost certainly disproportionately increase wages, leaving a lesser amount for transfers (if we sign four players for £2.5m each, we’ll probably have to pay each more than the average of Victor and Gary’s wage).
Knowing where they came from, I reckon Victor and Gary cost approximately a combined total of £1m p.a. in wages, the bulk of which would have gone to Gary. If we bring in four players, each costing multiple millions, they could easily cost us an extra £2m per annum in wages, or £8m over their four year contracts.
In short, there is enough money available to buy several good players, for decent money, on high wages (for Celtic). This is a good, sustainable, place to be, but it is not transfer window nirvana. We have moved from a position of carrying a perpetual loss to being able to afford an increase in football budget without splurging into debt to fund it.
This isn’t a detailed budget analysis, there are lots of other variables (McCourt, Rogne etc off the wages, not Murphy, whose wages were off the books already), non-football budget cost inflation, considerable drop in one-off ticket sales (20k seats for £42 each at Rangers games twice a season) and commercial income from 2011-12, variations in season book sales (I hear they are marginally up on same time last year but still down on 2011-12).
The big challenge for the club is to ensure the playing squad is good enough to qualify for the Champions League group stage, and to compete when there, more often than not, without indulging in casino football every year.
We stick to plan, scout and recruit players within budget and with high potential sell-on values. €7m on a striker from Heerenveen? Better stick it on black.
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Kojo
Dae Yersel a Favour & Stick tae the Fitba Pal O’Mine.
HH
Ill take 5 nil.
Adios.
Sutton’s volley
If we have sold 50000 season tickets as some posters on here have indicated then it might be hard for SB sales to dwarf that when they arrive back as we can only sell a maximum of 53 k season books.
However, I do know what you mean. There is a large element of our support who miss games v Them. I don’t and I would be happy if we never had today against them again.
danso_1888
00:23 on
31 July, 2013
auldheid, the biggest crime is we allowed this to happen and did nothing about it.
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That is a possibility but the problem was and is, what to do without collapsing the pack of cards? It is now looking as if that pack will collapse if Hearts do not get a CVA or are allowed to continue but go belly up in say October.
Celtic have one vote like the other clubs and that limits their power to an extent and this has to be taken into account. We might own 90% of the football but are not in a position to pick it up and take it home, not if we want5 to keep playing football.
Auldheid:
That just isn’t going to happen. Can you imagine the civil law suit frenzy. A prerequisite to reconciliation, to my mind, would be for the SFA to hold up their hands, admit Bryson was coached to mislead, have every office holder declare his membership of any and all secret societies, dispense with the favouritism, strip Rangers of all tainted trophies, insist the new huns square up all the old Rangers creditors, rescind the new huns licence and send them to the juniors, define and publish unequivocally the status of the history of the new huns, and for Rangers to accept all that with good grace.
And you and I both know that ain’t gonna happen either.
Auldheid,
But as you and me know …there will always be Rangers customers. The PLC know this too. Its the SFA and SPFL cabal that I want obliterated. Your either part of the problem or the solution. It looks like,we are part of the cabal. Why do you always fail to address this point ?
HH
Auldheid, I have nothing but respect for you as you are one gentleman, and if we were all like you it would be a beautiful game, alas its not corruption rules soccer now.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
00:01 on
31 July, 2013
The quality of mercy is not strain’d,
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath: it is twice blest;
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes:
‘Tis mightiest in the mightiest: it becomes
The throned monarch better than his crown;
His sceptre shows the force of temporal power,
The attribute to awe and majesty,
Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings;
But mercy is above this sceptred sway;
It is enthroned in the hearts of kings,
It is an attribute to God himself;
And earthly power doth then show likest God’s
When mercy seasons justice. Therefore, Jew,
Though justice be thy plea, consider this,
That, in the course of justice, none of us
Should see salvation: we do pray for mercy;
And that same prayer doth teach us all to render
The deeds of mercy. I have spoke thus much
To mitigate the justice of thy plea;
Which if thou follow, this strict court of Venice
Must needs give sentence ‘gainst the merchant there.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS @12:46
Cheers!
The best post in all the 19 pages so far.
Dontbrattbakkinanger @ 12:49
It is already ‘Panic’.
Dontbrattbakkinanger / mrob1967 / Hrvatski Jim / Dbbia /Stein reigned supreme / Bobby Murdoc
A friend from Dublin came over to see Emmylou Harris and Rodney Crowell perform at the Glasgow, Concert hall. I went not knowing what I was going to see and left very impressed.
benjybhoy mul @ 22:19
You need a ticket to enter bar. So, you’ll be fine. Entry to bar is up to an hour before kick-off. Last orders 30 minutes before ko.
suttons volley @ 22:28
I spent the first few seasons of The North stand in the upper section and loved it.
Sandman 23:43
The Zombies cannot return to the SPL as they have never been in it. ;) It is a disgrace that a tribute act were allowed to form and were given a head-start over teams like Spartans. The cheating looks less hidden now. It’s out in the open. Nobody does anything more than to vent some anger through their keyboard. Some even miss ‘them’. We keep paying in. We are expected to accept that Celtic could not do anything about the past or future of the game. That our silence is dignified. I do agree that what happens in the interim years will be forgotten and it will be back to business as usual, which includes cheating us to benefit them. Then the new old firm can share the feast at the top table and we can keep paying for that. I would rather ‘a Rangers’ survived despite the efforts of my club to get justice and equality and not because they remained silent and did nothing. They would have stood on our wind-pipe given the chance. I don’t understand our generosity. Nor do I believe it is because they will remain a basket case club while me move on to pastures new, such as the EPL.
Auldheid @ 23:51
Can we not just move on and embrace the new firm?
To all – I often see posts in here referring to Huns. Can I ask those who use that term to only use it when referring to supporters of the now defunct team. The term for Sevconians is Zombies.
Aw Naw
I’s trade changing the SFA culture which could only happen if those responsible for it resigned, for my pound of flesh.
Awe naw
An opportunity was missed at recent reconstruction. If we were conceding prize money so that other clubs could be subsidised then we should have been driving a much harder bargain with regards to the SFA and office holders at the SPFL. We should have demanded an end to the committee structure, the sacking of RC Ogilvie, Doncaster, Regan and Longmuir.
Now that the SPFL has been instituted it will be hard to effect any change. I agree with those who say that we should be looking for a new league/ be in the vanguard of organising a new league incorporating Scandinavian, Dutch, Belgian and Portuguese clubs.
We cannot let those who have cheated in the past to thrive again within the same old set up.
SadiesBhoy
Firstly thanks for your response.
We may or may not sell 45-50K Season Tickets but lets be honest thats only so tickets for (hopefully) the CL are a cert for those who purchase.
How many will turn out when we play ICT in April when we are already 20 points in front?
We need a player for the crowd, bit of flair.
I was saying on here last week that we needed a proper player, someone wi ‘the touch’ I think we signed him today – fingers crossed.
HH
Auldheid @ 00:38
Help me understand. Celtic were cheating out of lots of cups and lots of money but only have one vote therefore there is nothing they can do and all we can do is continue to pay for this ‘entertainment’?
danso_1888
00:43 on
31 July, 2013
Auldheid, I have nothing but respect for you as you are one gentleman, and if we were all like you it would be a beautiful game, alas its not corruption rules soccer now.
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For corruption to prevail etc.
When you read some of the CF stuff the breadth and depth of it takes your breath away.
The ordinary supporter has little power to change but shareholders are impacted by SFA decisions which is why canalamar’s resolution is worth pushing.
Sutton’s volley
I hope you are right. I think as Negative Anon said recently on here we need a flexible business model. Yes have a wage structure in place that doesn’t break the bank and which caters for the different levels of ability/experience within the team but we must be able to incorporate a blue chip entertainer/ player of exceptional ability who will have to be paid quite a bit more than the wage structure ceiling.
As you say it is this type of player who brings in the supporters.
auldheid, I have given up trying to get justice it wont happen and celtic will suffer in the long term of that I have no doubt.
macjay1 for Neil Lennon
03:06 on 30 July, 2013
weeman
At work,mate.
Will comment when I`ve had a chance to check the sites.
Mexican cartels go North for their guns.
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Have Pulled The Wool Over Your Eyes..
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Like….
* Benghazi-Gate
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Taxable Status
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Gotta Go ,Joe….
I’m definitely away to bed this time. Tomorrow folks.
Auldheid
The old argument again. Its not trade its sport. You can only Forgive those that are truly sorry. Thats why we ignore. To make money. It has served us well the Old Firm model …and guess what me and you are back at my first exchange with you on CQN. Difference is this time there. is no .denying it. Although they will.
Lets get ready to rumble ?
I am off to bed night night.
SUFNLANLO
Auldheid @ 00:52
The CF downloads are indeed breath-taking. Just one of the many reasons share-holders need to use their shares and support canalamar. I believe this should be our focus right now.
http://thecelticnetwork.com/2013/07/29/resolution-for-agm/#comment-8178
Morrissey the 23rd
00:50 on
31 July, 2013
Well they have to have proof they were cheated and that is only now emerging. We always knew things were dodgy but as it turned out were not paranoid enough. Now not only Celtic fans are seeing what all their clubs were up against.
The one vote refers to SPFL meetings or SFAS meetings and in order to get changes through Celtic need the support of other clubs.
On for example strenghtening club licensing to make cheating more difficult, it looks a no brainer but what if a number of clubs fall short of essential requirements and have been granted one on the nod? They are unlikely to vote in favour of change because of its negative impact on them.
In a business that is totally interdependent for survival the insane ethic is every club for themselves.
auldheid , look what they have gotten away with, do you really think that our club will stand up for us really? ah mean really?
God is a Concept by which we measure our pain I’ll say it again God is a Concept by which we measure our pain I don’t believe in magic I don’t believe in I-ching I don’t believe in Bible I don’t believe in Tarot I don’t believe in Hitler I don’t believe in Jesus I don’t believe in Kennedy I don’t believe in Buddha I don’t believe in Mantra I don’t believe in Gita I don’t believe in Yoga I don’t believe in Kings I don’t believe in Elvis I don’t believe in Zimmerman I don’t believe in Beatles I just believe in me…and that reality
The dream is over What can I say?the Dream is Over Yesterday I was the Dreamweaver But now I’m reborn I was the Walrus But now I’m John and so dear friends you’ll just have to carry on The Dream is over
SUFNLANLO
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo @ 01:00
It’s not even sport if the competition is not fair and equal. With one set of bending rules for whatever team plays at Ibrox and another for all the other teams that make up the numbers, it is just entertainment.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
01:00 on
31 July, 2013
Auldheid
The old argument again. Its not trade its sport. You can only Forgive those that are truly sorry
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Absolutely which is why the suggested statement from The Rangers is most unlikely and why the game cannot move on. The resentment at an uncontrite wrong doing will simply not move on.
Morrisey23
Lights going out and a kick in the balls
Singing Douchetective
I’ll take your well rounded comments onboard.
Although your lack of contrition is a source of concern.
Your quite a strange fella but you mean well.
Take care.
Auldheid
And that makes it ok for us to remain silent. As long as we are making profit ?
Gotta go …night night
Auldheid @ 01:01
Then can Celtic stand alone and fight this corruption? Take it to FIFA/UEFA. Take it to the media. Take it to the courts. Speak up for the club and fans who have been cheated.
The Scottish business model relies heavily on the money of the only super power in Scottish muscle. I’d like to see us flex our muscles. Just now, I see us as the bullied wee boy, too afraid to speak out or worse still complicit. I’m not alone in feeling that and I’m sure Celtic are aware a large volume of their paying support are not happy about this and are not willing to keep paying into it. Sadly, I fear they are balancing that against those who are willing to, no matter what.
*Scottish muscle = Scottish football
(Hard to focus when my beautiful angel is whispering ‘let’s go to bed in my ear’, while I am trying to resolve the worlds ill through my keyboard)
danso_1888
01:01 on
31 July, 2013
auldheid , look what they have gotten away with, do you really think that our club will stand up for us really? ah mean really?
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If that is what best serves Celtic then yes. If they can use it as leverage to get something that best serves Celtic by staying silent then that is how it will be used.
Silence has served Celtic well until now but that was pre CF leaks. I doubt the policy of ignoring them because of their provenance will fail and we should be ready for that.
I saw a CF leak tonight about Jack Irvine suggesring civil servants doing their job should be photographed and those photos published which might have endangered them. Had it been nurses, doctors or soldiers there would have been an uproar, but these are public servants as well and deserve the same protection. It wil take an issue like that to be raised and the English msm to latch on to lift the lid.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
01:10 on
31 July, 2013
Auldheid
And that makes it ok for us to remain silent. As long as we are making profit ?
Gotta go …night night
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I did not say that but I’ve answered your question re silence to danso.
I THINK the policy etc…..
http://www.scribd.com/doc/157070270/Jack-and-his-working-ways
A Stor Mo Chroi
00:40 on
31 July, 2013
Indeed which is why I have not suggested it and suggested clemency.
Offering that is going to be as difficult for us as it is to then to confess, but the whole point of confession is absolution so that the guilt of past sins does not weigh us down.
Not punishment.
Mind you I’m not sure that the Catholic tradition of confession is the same as the Protestant and I do wonder if that explains their reluctance to admit wrongdoing and our desire to see it admitted in order to forgive it.
It’s pretty depressing reading back and seeing Celtic men accusing other Celtic men of being of a huunish hue, I thought that was a line of reply reserved for new posters as a CQN right of passage.
I know nothing about this big cloggy bhoy we’ve signed but hope he hits the ground running, but not in a starting position tomorrow night. He may be fit but does he have a clue what the guys around him will do?
I’m looking forward to tomorrow night but with a bit of apprehension, not about the game though. Jungle Jim has officially joined the ACGR & son CSC boogie bus from Angus (tight auld bastard that he is) and he may not like our choice of match day music, especially as we approach Duke street and the louden hovel comes into view.
I hope we get a great turn out from the support and memories of big Vic and Hoops are put to the back of our minds. They’re gone but Celtic remain.
God Bless the Green Brigade
Billy Nowell’s take on the torching of the sevco bus.
What a tragedy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L5-x9sQpb4
HAW!!
I see Brentford beat Cardiff tonight. Makes our win with boys look even better!