Bigger questions loom than reconstruction

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We now know that Craig Whyte met Neil Doncaster and Ralph Topping, directors of the SPL, in London in October 2011 and informed them of the likelihood that Rangers would go into liquidation.  Whyte’s plan, to start a Newco and have it parachuted into top flight football was only taken seriously as a result of these three having a head start on everyone else and doing some preparatory work.

Charles Green has no such plans.  If he loses Ibrox, becomes embroiled in IPO-related troubles or fails to bridge the gap between money-in and money-out, an unplanned liquidation could follow with a potentially protracted period where physical assets are moribund and playing assets and other staff are released.

The SPL and SFL would do well to consider ‘what next?’ when they hold separate meetings next week.  The century-old ways are gone, things will never be the same again.

I’m really pleased the aforementioned Charlie issued an apology for his offending comments, even if he did so under duress from the SFA.  This kind of rhetoric has taken control within football in some European countries.  Once the door is open it is hard to close it again.
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  1. Craigellachie10 on

    I see that sevco player Barry mackay is out for the season with a foot injury. Sounds like that must be a breach of contract. Sack him!

  2. For those struggling with their emotions of Thatcher. I listened from Matthew 1-23 last night.

     

     

    I find the Audio Bible suits me a lot better.

  3. HT @23:46

     

     

    Your lack of understanding of the views of the Celtic support speaks volumes.

     

     

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    I really think you should consider rephrasing the above statement to reflect the fact that views you allude too are shared by a minority of the Celtic Support proved by the inconsiderable numbers attending George Square last Saturday.

  4. TT by fencing off the entire route and limiting crossing places they are creating a crowd in that part of London. Same thing happened with the Rugby World Cup.

     

    Either event on a Sunday morning is a damp squib.

  5. pedrocaravanachio67 on

    Toffeetim

     

     

    In light of the number 1 song, I think it would be apt to suspend a council house from a crane and then drop it on her corpse, with lots of little people singing and dancing around.

     

    With pope Francis standing at the side saying ” there’s no place like Rome, there’s no place like Rome.

  6. setting free the bears @ ”

     

    Ntasoola

     

     

    “stfb I listened to the speeches.”

     

     

    ‘Yes. but did you hear?’

     

     

    No. I was fast asleep after about twenty seconds.

  7. pedrocaravanachio67 on

    Starry

     

     

    No offence intended….Ireland has produced some prolific writers and poets, intention was to add to the greatness of the country.

  8. mickbhoy1888 @00:20 don’t you know it was “an absolutely jam-packed George Square. … with thousands of people stretching as far as the eye can see”

  9. Irvine Welsh started writing again after he went to Ireland for the tax breaks.

     

     

    I think he also stopped drinking when he saw the prices over there.

  10. pedrocaravanachio67

     

     

    Just wanted to be clear Mate in case anyone thought I was having a pop, you know how it gets on here sometimes, humour doesn’t always travel across the Alps!

  11. mickbhoy

     

     

    I’d take you up on your “silent majority” challenge.

     

     

    I’ll line up at CP on match day at a booth to collect signatures in support of the GB. You can set up a booth to collect signatures, either, against the GB or in favour of the polis, whichever you decide is your best bet. I will make no speeches or advertisement but allow you to promote as much as you will.

     

     

    Would you be confident of beating me in collecting votes?

  12. pedrocaravanachio67 on

    Starry, no probs, enough handbags on here without me gettin involved.

     

     

    Off to bed

     

     

    Night night

     

     

    HH

  13. Lifted from the blog of Angela Haggerty

     

    Editor of Phil McGs bookmThe Downfalll of blah blah blah

     

     

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    The biggest threat to the enviably good reputation of the Celtic support isn’t the number of idiots who attended the game at Dens Park against Dundee in December, it’s complacency.

     

     

    You can’t take a good reputation for granted. It has to be worked at and maintained.

     

     

    If a number of Celtic fans spent their entire Boxing Day getting into a drunken state which left them unable to tell if they were in Dundee or Derry, never mind watch a game of football, what is the big deal in saying so?

     

     

    Celtic supporters are world-renowned, globally welcomed and respected by other clubs and cultures. There is not a bit of that worth risking for the sake of protecting a minority group of wannabe-rebels who, more often than not, need a sturdy dose of Buckfast to help with the bravado.

     

     

    Being a rebel involves being clever. It does not involve a booze-fuelled rendition of IRA songs. In 2012, with a peace process in Northern Ireland and thousands dead as a result of The Troubles, it’s an insult to stamp feet at a football ground and belt out songs in a manner which can only create tension. It’s highly disrespectful.

     

     

    The biggest threat facing Ireland’s sovereignty right now isn’t the British. Will we hear songs about the IMF and the European Union at Celtic Park anytime soon?

     

     

    Celtic fans should be careful they don’t become immersed in their own hype. A small observance of Twitter over the last week has highlighted a point blank refusal by some of the club’s fans to accept that the support isn’t perfect. Any trouble and complaints of chants are simply blown out of proportion, they say.

     

     

    It’s not as bad as the events at Ibrox earlier in the month when eight people were arrested, they say. Nobody stopped to think that the very making of this comparison should have been the most uncomfortable thought.

     

     

    I spoke on Twitter of my opinion on matters. Some of the hard core rebels in a Celtic shirt worked up the courage to tell me to where to go. Classy, intelligent debate.

     

     

    Celtic Football Club prides itself on being inclusive, it doesn’t demand its fans come from any race, religion or political background. That is a concept lost on those who abuse fellow Celtic fans for offering an alternative opinion.

     

     

    I assume they are of the same ilk as the “rebel” in a Celtic jersey I witnessed ripping the wing mirror from a moving bus just outside Celtic Park after the bhoys beat Spartak Moscow and sailed through to the last 16 of the Champions League. On a freezing cold night, a bus load of Celtic fans were ushered onto dangerously icy streets thanks to that little freedom fighter, who ran away quickly afterward.

     

     

    The neds who behave in such manners are being protected by the wider support because of a fear that an attack on one is an attack on all.

     

     

    The truth is, if the Celtic support becomes complacent about the minority, however tiny it may be, it will become a bigger and harder problem to deal with in the future.

     

     

    Forget the media coverage, forget what the rest say and remember what Celtic stands for. The pressure on anyone who risks those principles should come, in the first instance, always from within. That has always been a Celtic strength.

     

     

    The next generation of Celtic fans need to be taught the Celtic way, and, importantly, they need to be led by example.

  14. As usual stfb resorts to sophistry.

     

    The debate here, stfb, is the Act and how to oppose it.

     

    Not the GB and how to support or oppose them.

  15. The Swiss do good chocolate.

     

     

    The buses run on time.

     

    If you board the bus and “forget” to buy a ticket, they can put you right in every language known to man.

  16. Ntasoolla

     

     

    “The debate here, stfb, is the Act and how to oppose it.”

     

     

    It is often difficult to tell on what grounds you wish to debate because, as soon as you are picked off on one leg of your argument, you switch to another.

     

     

    You are the guy who despises PC thinking but pulled up a foreign speaker of English for using the term “The Jew”.

     

     

    Consistency of position is not your long suit.

  17. mickbhoy1888

     

    00:32 on

     

    12 April, 2013,

     

     

    Very good.

     

     

    Were you at Dundee that night?

     

     

    The guy who stated “We had to let them in cos there could’a been a riot.” Was actually Dundee’s CEO (Does PL & CG monitor fans entering their stadium?)…

     

     

    Utter Pish, Guess where the Dundee CEO used to work and, who is now the Manager..?

     

     

    FFSCSC

  18. SFTB

     

     

    Far too busy m8 but whatever floats your boat and after you have collected your signatures maybe you can forward same to Mr Lawell and have him allocate an even bigger section to the 30000who turned up at George Square last Saturday

     

     

    Ps why don’t you start off your list of names on CQN it seems a a popular wee pastime on here appending your anonymity to a wee list

  19. A song that really resonates with me and I’m sure a lot more are realising how GOOD it really is.

     

     

    This is from a person that is going out with a person who has lost a very young person in her life.

     

     

    Apparently my ludicrous, random and highly HONEST personality has inspired this MONUMENTAL person in My Life.

     

     

    And Michael has invited 50 to this Moonhowlers convention. :)))))

     

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz2LTIkWIB0

     

     

    Or is it a backdoor trojan to inject petec back into normality?

  20. When Thatcher de regulated the banks it was open season for making money any which you can

     

     

    She set in motion the well heeled wheels that caused the present UK bust

     

     

    Everyone who came after had no choice but to follow the money

     

     

    Making money was the only game in town

  21. mickbhoy1888

     

     

    Will I take that as an admission you would lose?

     

     

    I was letting you have all the advantages but you won’t back up your view that your view represents better the average match going Celt.

     

     

    More bluster than belief there mickbhoy :-)

  22. Back from watching Dr Faustus tonight.

     

     

    Could time be running out for the football authorities who made a pact with the devil down Ibrox way?

  23. Ntassoolla

     

     

    00:31 on 12 April, 2013

     

     

    I specifically asked you to post it, not put a link to it.

     

     

    petec go and read it.

     

    Or listen to it.

     

    I’m not your secretary.

     

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yOwYh_NUDI

     

     

    Just Blew a LITTLE hole where there wasn’t one before.

  24. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    S.F.T.B

     

    3) Jeanette Findlay- By all common consent of those present, the best speech of the day. She rode on the factual information of Mr. McCann and the emphasis on organised opposition from Mr. McMahon to make a punchy, rabble rousing speech that sent the crowds out of the square singing and in a good mood. No external politics were promoted, no political party was shamed; the target was the Act and the Act got it. 10 out of 10 from all present.

     

     

    She mentioned that she was :

     

    a) Socialist

     

    b)Trades Unionist

     

    That`s pretty political i.m.h.o.

     

     

    The matter of greatest significance as far as I am concerned is:

     

    Does the Celtic Trust have a political agenda?If so,what is it?

     

    Do the Green Brigade have a political agenda?If so,what is it?

  25. Thindimebhoy @00:45 in the wake of Johnson Mathey, Polly Peck and BCCI regulation of the money market part of Banks’ business actually tightened. This was at the behest of the Bank of England who supervised the Banks.

     

     

    Hundreds of years of experience was thrown out with the bath water when Labour abandoned this and put their own men in place. They didn’t have to. You can’t blame Thatcher for that one. The Swedes and Canadians stuck to a system modelled on the English one. They were relatively unaffected. And hey presto. We have a Canadian governor of the Bank of England.

     

     

    No such thing as the Bank of Britain.

  26. macjay

     

     

    She mentioned it openly and honestly. She did not say that you too should be socialist nor did she circulate TU membership forms. If she had failed to mention her position, she might have been hounded by the “Red Menace” faction for being secretive.

     

     

    Now, if I could believe you possible of disingenuousness, I would swear that you deliberately omitted the part of Jeannette’s speech where she was critical of the lack of TU support against this Act. Hardly the action of a dyed in the wool TU loyalist or proselytiser. The politics of left and right are a wee bit more nuanced than that.

     

     

    I cannot answer your point about the GB or Celtic trust politics. I suspect that, if you look, you will find some but. last week was all about opposition to the Act. Anything else was left to the side.

     

     

    FAC, with involvement of the Celtic Trust and the GB, got off their backsides and tried to make a difference. They are not waiting for enlightenment to happen with Stephen House, Frank Mulholland or Kenny McAskill, by divine intervention.

     

     

    Until, they actually start some divisive politicking, I will reserve my criticism and limit it to praise for their proactive actions.