I know you don’t need to rehearse the Resolution 12 debate as you’ll know it instinctively now, but, as always, we are indebted to eyes outside of Scotland calling for insight and governance in the Scottish game on an issue only tangentially related.
Yesterday, The Offshore Game, ran a report that the SFA may have misled the Lord Nimmo Smith Commission inquiry into Rangers failure to register players on an industrial scale during their EBT years.
While the SFA were swatting away questions into how Rangers were cleared to participate in Uefa competitions in 2011, less than a year before disappearing into insolvency, chief operating officer, Andrew McKinlay inadvertently turned the spotlight on the reliability of evidence placed before Lord Nimmo Smith.
Questions around the awarding of Rangers Uefa licence in 2011 were asked in the dark as no one outside the club, SFA and Uefa knew what information had been submitted, and the SFA didn’t know what the club submitted to Uefa.
There was a belief that the club may have not disclosed a letter concerning the Wee Tax Case from HMRC to the SFA in 2011. Mr McKinlay wrote to the requisitioners saying that he “did not accept that” this information was not brought to the SFA’s attention in 2011 – two years before Nimmo Smith sat.
This assertion tidied up the Res 12 issue at Hampden, but as The Offshore Game makes clear, why on earth did the SFA’s evidence to Lord Nimmo Smith on the Wee Tax Case not reflect the correspondence they had on file? In short, it was accepted by all that schemes scrutinised by the Wee Tax Case were unlawful.
Nimmo Smith didn’t hear this, in fact, he heard was that Rangers tax schemes were legal, and concluded, therefore, as any other club could have used them, no sporting advantage was accrued.
The Offshore Game call for scrutiny of the SFA over this by the parliamentary Culture, Media and Sport select committee. This call will be magnified should the Supreme Court uphold HMRC’s position on the Big Tax Case.
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TTT,
The CFCB was set up for exactly this kind of issue that is why they were our body of choice, I think you might be confusing this with the issue that clubs cannot take action against their association through the civil justice system which of course the is now a new presceden set for doing this in Scotland without censure :)
TONYDONNELLY67 on 17TH NOVEMBER 2016 12:29 PM
BRTH
An excellent reply to KU opinion , no slagging, no troll nonsense, whether he agrees with you guys or not? He should get respect, a few in here should try this, the bullying stuff falls short of either making your point, or debating on it, IMO.
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Thanks TD! Well said, and a real study in diplomacy. I’ll get you a drink next time I’m in the Brazen Head.
AULDHEID on 17TH NOVEMBER 2016 1:53 PM
all the teams who finished second or runners -up in cup comps. deserve the titles.queen of south get a cup and so do falkirk.bit late for them but it counts just the same.and the SFA owe them the money to pay the bonuses that the players were due.the SFA can always get the money from SEVCO by deducting it from tv monies.
Auldheid
Sorry, meant to add that Sevco fans believe that they would have been banned from Europe in 2012/2013 season, and that Andrea Traverso believes this too.
FAVOURITE UNCLE on 17TH NOVEMBER 2016 2:01 PM
What about the teams Rangers beat on the way to the final? They might have won had they got through. So you can’t really re-award. You can only strip.
GREENPINATA on 17TH NOVEMBER 2016 1:19 PM
Kill Ultra,
…For clarity and transparency I respectfully I feel it is now time to put up or shut up. Let us be be the judge of the great smoking gun…
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What, all of you, including the Hun media?? No, I think I’ll just let PL be the judge. Letter on its way.
By the way, it’s hardly respectful when you demand that I put up or shut up.
Re titles being stripped gained etc.
My close pal, now dead, and I had been season ticket holders since we were bhoys and frankly for all the pain it caused us I would like the titles stripped. Don’t care if they are marked as an asterisk, meaning cancelled, but let them have some pain. Whatever sevco can’t have them or any other history …. going for 1 lol
Appreciate that is the emotional feeling, more likely a forced change in the sfa is what we might get
Feck it, take the titles away, football is an emotional game
HH
Kill Ultra
Been reading back and hope the metaphorical grenade you have posted is worth all the apparent abuse you have thrown about since early this morning, you are certainly wound up!!!
HH
KIl Ultra
Does that mean you are not going to respond to my questions?
No problem if you don’t and prefer to write to PL instead, though with respect, what you will get from PL is PL’s position and not necessarily my own, and the two may very well be capable of different interpretations and come from different states of knowledge depending on what is asked.
Either way, hopefully, you will get a reply that helps.
BRTH
AWE_NAW_NO_ANNONI_OAN_ANAW_NOO on 17TH NOVEMBER 2016 1:47 PM
TTT
let me correct that for you
dofs=dobs
*****
I sit corrected.
BRTH,
It’ll be, thanks for your letter “.”
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 17TH NOVEMBER 2016 2:00 PM
TTT,
The CFCB was set up for exactly this kind of issue that is why they were our body of choice, I think you might be confusing this with the issue that clubs cannot take action against their association through the civil justice system which of course the is now a new presceden set for doing this in Scotland without censure :)
*****
You are right.
I was confusing the situation.
In fact, I am becoming permanently confused! Maybe time to roll back on the posting>
Think about it for a wee minute
Angry at us because we have not exposed the board as complicit in old firm protection is now running greeting to the board because we have not exposed them as complicate it’s a waste of time and energy. Looking for snake an there’s name fawin so blame the weatherman for no predicting any ffs
Just received my reply from Celtic and PL to my letter detailing all my known unknown; unkown known; known known, knowledge backed up in wiki fact (otherwise known as Macjay fuzz) and real fact otherwise known as reasonable documentation sourced from reliable sources evidenced and backed up. Wow! seems big Pete the Bonus collector is with me here.
His reply said.
Damn you you fool! Go away. Do you like my driveway?
I’m not replying!
MWD received mail by wheelbarra securish courier from the PLC guy.
this would be dead easy too.
Please tick as appropriate.
Are you a shareholder Yes or No
MWD No
don’t believe you I’m writing to PLC
TTT,
no need for that, clearing up confusions always better, it’s no a sin to be confused, arguing on wilful ignorance is another matter.
Won’t you help? Millennials desparately need sponsors so they don’t have to get jobs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=RGvrmltfMrA&app=desktop
Weeminger- UEFA will be terrified of clubs who the huns stiffed in Europe for big money..
Snake is snaw even
Bada…,
Like in 2008 when the team had side letters ?
Been thinking of doing a wee review of teams they met in Europe who were later denied a license, I think there will be a couple, oh what fun writing that letter to the boards of clubs who lost out at both ends of the spectrum :)
Canalamar- exactly, they should be looking at how Gascoigne and Laudrup were there in the mid 90s as well, thank you and the rest of the bhoys for your outstanding efforts re Res 12
Did they play Galatasary during those side letter years I see my to rmember something
13 EPL Clubs interested in safe standing areas…
Seem to remember even
Bada…,
We should accept nothing less that £20M if they want ours
LAMBERT14 on 17th November 2016 2:05 pm
I’m no expert on this (hell, I’m no expert on anything), but here is my take/understanding of it.
1. Had the information about the DOS Tax liability (wee tax case) been declared as part of the application for a European Licence between March and June 2011 then the SFA would NOT have been able to issue the licence Rangers (IL) for the 2011/2012 season.
2.. If it had come to light after the licence was issued that Rangers (IL) had an outstanding tax liability and were ineligible to compete in Europe during 2011/2012 season and UEFA were in a position to apply sanctions, this sanction would have been for the 2012/2013 season.
Therefore the fact is that Rangers (IL) should not have been issued the licence in 2011/2012. The SFA have now publicly admitted they had this information prior to issuing the licence, so the issue of their malfeasance is now evident for all to see! (Unless you are a myopic hun zombie of course).
KTF
Reported planned ISIS attack on Israeli football squad averted near Tirana, Albania last weekend ?
Over 20 arrested on suspicion ?
In a week when Brendan reminded us that Celtic had 14 players away on inter national duty, travelling all over the globe it’s easy to forget sometimes the dangers everywhere ?
HH
vfr
thanks for the email – reply sent
Big Jimmy,
That’s a strange one considering Israel had been treating ISIS wounded throughout the Syrian conflict.
BRTH
I’ll be in touch with Oldtim then pass on details
FavUncle
You are a gent
Won’t be in BV tomorrow but will be next Wednesday prior to Barca game
You can leave it behind bar if you wish
Just tell them it’s for Cqn bhoys
I owe you a drink, thanks again
I was in the Blane Valley yesterday afternoon-evening-night with some very fine CQN’rs all with differing opinions about the Board, PLC, etc.
BRTH was good enough to pop in from his very busy schedule for a small libation of the non-alcoholic variety, unlike the rest of us, lol. He gave a very reasoned summary of where we are regarding Res 12 and why.
Now as far as I am concerned we are very lucky to have had the 4 ‘amigos’ do this work on our behalf both shareholders and non-shareholders alike, so how any Celtic fan can call them out and question their integrity or motives is totally beyond me. These guys are doing this in their own time without even considering any form of remuneration. They just want to see justice done and a level playing field being established for ALL the teams in Scotland.
One question for all the Res 12 snipers – what have you done about sporting integrity in our game? Only asking.
Canalamar- i think a Swiss team were interested in the huns cheating,£25 mil plus a sell on for the safe seating…
Just reading on the beeb site that a former Crewe Alexandra youth player was a victim of assault from the age of 11-15 by one of his coaches who has since been imprisoned.
I wonder of visiting fans to Gresty Road or fans at away grounds where the Railwaymen play chant ”DG Knew” or your just a bunch of Jimmy S’s.
Naw I don’t think so, not that they’re anymore civilised given some of the chants that emanate from grounds down there but this subject seems tae be too distasteful and taboo, and yet gets completed whitewashed up in the best wee bigoted country in the world.
This is a lot more serious than some wee high school lhad calling a scheidty player scheitd, especially when he is that.
The SMSM, Sevco and the SFA should hang their heads in shame especially the latter as the greatest Scottish/UK manager died for them and also helped carry the stricken supporters of the deid team while the rest of us were sitting at hame feeling sorry for them but still tucking intae New Years left overs.
Ming on 17th November 2016 2:54 pm
Received; thank you!
The moniker now makes sense!
KTF
WEEMAN67
IS THIS A SCAM???
A very refreshing speech, tells it like it is………….HH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE8zw_Be4L4&feature=em-share_video_user
Canman
The public will believe any old crap, never happened, just another made up lie to keep the people living in fear and making out they are doing a great job,
HH