Bobby Collins left Celtic in 1958 after nine years’ service. He’d won the Cup, the Double, the Coronation Cup, and, of course, the 1957 League Cup Final – Hampden in the Sun, Celtic 7, Rangers 1.
He went on to have a great career at Everton and to make a transformational contribution to Leeds United, but he will forever be a team mate of Sean Fallon, Willie Fernie, Bertie Peacock, Neil Mochan and Charles Patrick Tully. Our thoughts go to his family and friends today.
Over the last year or so we’ve asked the question, how many appearances a player needs to make in a well-scouted league to allow an agile club to discover him, before the hoards arrive and price-away any value in him?
Victor Wanyama made 50 appearances in Belgium before we nabbed him but he was knocking back substantially improved contracts from Celtic after only 30 games (which is a different point); England had already taken notice. Virgil van Dijk made 62 appearances for Groningen, would we have been able to sign him on the kind of money we did if he’d stayed for another 30-or-so games? It’s unlikely.
Amido Balde made 27 top flight appearances before arriving here, while Teemu Pukki played 37 times for Schalke – enough to score 8 times but there would have been little game time for Celtic scouts to watch him.
In the summer we concluded that there was a 50-80 game value opportunity. Below this and you’ll struggle to find a player who has developed sufficiently for our agile scouts to be on the case and to do their work properly. Above this and any player worth a punt will be packing stands with scouts from all over Europe.
If we’re signing someone without the necessary miles on the clock, he’s a punt and should be considered off strategy. If we’re singing someone who has been watched by dozens of scouts, chances are, at best, he will be no more than a decent return on our money, there will be no hidden value.
Stefan Johansen has made 67 top flight appearances for Norwegian champions, Stromsgodset. Enough for him to develop into a player who can attract the most agile to Norway, not enough for him to attract those who seem to use Fifa 14 as their primary recruitment database, so he’s on strategy, as far as our 50-80 game value opportunity theory goes.
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BIG-CUP-WINNERS
I go with that, don’t know much about Darren Bent is he any good?
No point in bringing any loan signings,unless there is a real chance of making it permanent,Bent is on 70 k a week,that’s why Lambert chased him.
Is it possible to block certain posters from your own view?
I find myself screaming with frustration when I see Ernie Lynch posting. He has to be the most self-serving, patronising , disingenuous and attention seeking poster on this site.
blantyretim is praying for the knox family
Occasionally lurking, but mostly surviving life with a young family. How are you keeping?
neilbhoy
20:31 on
14 January, 2014
Ernie is a breath of fresh air from rabid nationalists……………Can I get you banned?
Bent has just scored v Norwich
No chance
I am looking forward to the Motherwell game on Saturday. I would anticipate a big crowd……..unless. of course, there is a political rally on in Glasgow. Judging by CQN, the Celtic attendance would then be about three hundred 0:-)
JJ
neilbhoy
Ernie Lynch has been on here for dunkeys…guy has got a right to post what he wishes.
Scroll by if you don’t like.
Good news.
I posted on Friday night looking for help to find a good Tim and member of the Wimbledon csc who went missing. He has been found safe and well.
Hail hail
Good buddy
Busy trying to keep ahead of the draconian welfare reforms…
Neilbhoy,
So if someone has a view you don’t like you want to ‘block’ that poster? Let’s do that and just put CQN to bed.
neilbhoy
20:31 on 14 January, 2014
Is it possible to block certain posters from your own view?
I find myself screaming with frustration when I see Ernie Lynch posting. He has to be the most self-serving, patronising , disingenuous and attention seeking poster on this site.
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Funny how we all see things differently. He’s one of the best on here in my opinion and believe me I’ve had my run ins with him too.
Team for Saturday:
Forster
Matthews Ambrose van Djik Izaguirre
Brown Biton Ledley Mulgrew
Commons Pukki
JJ
BT
Couldn’t have put it better masell. My opinion, let the Scottish people decide Scotlands future. Simples.
Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.
neilbhoy
20:31 on 14 January, 2014
I’ll plead to being patronising (that means I talk down to people).
The rest I would dispute.
Bobby Russell
He didn`t say that.
JJ
The Honest Mistake
Glad to hear it.hh
Jungle Jim-2 football related posts in a row will get ye Scotland Yard fae here…..:))
blantyretim is praying for the knox family
:). Glad to hear it
Girl in work was saying to me today that her boyfriend had been trying to buy two tickets together for Saturday’s game but it wasn’t possible they could only get seats separately.
Good news re attendance if that’s the case.
Neilbhoy
Ernie is one of us Mate and always has been, without the likes of him this place would have died a death a long time ago!!
Use your finger..
Hx2
jungle jim
20:38 on 14 January, 2014Team for Saturday:ForsterMatthews Ambrose van Djik IzaguirreBrown Biton Ledley MulgrewCommons Pukki
No Johansen ? On the bench ?
Benny McCarthy and Jason Roberts talking about #Celtic on Sky Sports https://t.co/BOBqxj6gRs http://t.co/TjnxEKCJ5I
Neilbhoy,
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I find myself screaming with frustration when I see Ernie Lynch posting. He has to be the most self-serving, patronising , disingenuous and attention seeking poster on this site.
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You obviously haven’t been on here long, have you?
neilbhoy
If you really want to see less of Ernie lynch posting you’re going about it the wrong way :)
Only joking, Ernie’s always got plenty of interesting points to make
BobbyRussell
20:37 on 14 January, 2014
To be fair he doesn’t want to have me banned (I must try harder). He just wants to customise his personal browsing experience me to exclude me.
Wibble wibble.
starry
‘use your finger’… a tad rude,mhate. :O)
AKBW1888
20:22 on
“………..before passing Judgement or as our
Blessed Lady Mary says “One Should Not Judge” Amen to that, only
our Lord has that privilege not for us to Judge,…”
You quote the above when previously tonight you have called people who use foodbanks liars and allude to those same individuals as not being in real need.
Oh well, maybe it’s good that you have chose to disengage from the debate.
Just been on FF. It has to be said that over there they are talking about Celtic. We should maybe give it a go ourselves!
voguepunter
Sorry VP I’ve never been the same since I fell off my chopper in Blantyre sometime in the 70’s…
Thanks for all the advice re Ernie Lynch posts although I confess I don’t understand what I should do with my finger….
And for clarity I only want to protect my own blood pressure levels by missing his posts. Everybody else should be free to enjoy his positive comments.
!!BadaBing!!
It was an attempt to get the CELTICquicknews site back on to football matters but I think I`ll give up for the night. If Johansen signs, then he can have a place on the bench 0:-)
Cheerio to one and all.
JJ
There are posters I scroll by and Ernie isn’t one of them, I never agree with anything he writes but like his posts, same with Kevj the DR loving correspondent….loved Declan’s posts and miss him but delighted for him when he signed for Everton during the week.
On a happier note…going to the game on Saturday after the hip op and been invited to the boardroom….see the grey brigade member getting turfed oot…any banners I can sneak in?
Kikinthenakas
djynwa67
Many thanks for the update.
Hail Hail
winning captains
They’re talking about bringing Celtic down…….that happens oan here awe the time.
murdochauldandhay & wee oscar
20:25 on 14 January, 2014
I have ordered mine, waiting on confirmation it is ready, should be this week.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Food banks and the actual need for them ?
I have first hand experience of the atrocities that are being dished out to the poorest in our society everyday.
Those currently unfortunate to be relying on JSA to survive are being brutalised by this government. In October 2011 they ramped up the severity of sanctions being meted out, in some cases what had been a one week loss of benefit became a 4 week loss or even 13 week loss.
For most the safety net of Hardship payments (40% reduction on the already low rates of benefit) is not accessible until after 2 weeks. Two weeks without money; would you beg, borrow or steal ?
It’s appalling, I’ll give you another example of how the state treats the vulnerable, it astounds me and could only have been engineered by an evil mind: a pregnant woman facing a sanction has her Hardship benefit reduced by 20%. Pregnant, 20% penalty and an unborn suffers. It would make the saints cry.
Is their a need for foodbanks and are those using the service genuine ? You bet there is.
neilbhoy
Scroll Mate just scroll, there’s some naughty Ruglen Bhoys on here!