Celtic’s primary job tonight is to defend properly, something we have singularly failed to do this season to anything like the levels achieved last term. This is not solely to do with the defence, and has nothing to do with the goalkeeper (who missed the Legia debacle), but is a function of the entire team.
Scott Brown and Stefan Johansen have the primary job of protecting the back four but most importantly, whoever plays wide midfield, has to partner with the corresponding full back. The full back positions have not been stable recently. Emilio looked to be back to his best at the weekend, but his form since returning from the World Cup has been erratic. We’ve had Efe Ambrose, Adam Matthews and Mikael Lustig at right back, leaving Callum McGregor little chance to establish a working relationship.
We have the speed, and Salzburg have the defensive record, to suggest we can score on the break, but focus should be on ensuring this is not an open, fluid, game of football.
The day has come
This is a unique time in our history and a CQN’er and academic has prepared a survey to record who we are, where we came from, our views and how closely our objectives align with the Club. You will be asked about the Referendum, faith, education, your heritage, the Offensive Behaviour Act and more, but you’ll be finished in around 5 minutes.
The objective is to identify why you support Celtic and whether these reasons are being recognised and served. You don’t sign up for anything, but the survey will record only your first visit. You’ll find it here.
I’ve never waved a blue and white – nor red, white and blue – flag in my life. Nationalism holds nothing for me, so I’ve found the political question of our time to be a difficult, technical, assessment, principally about jobs – Scotland’s real need.
This time tomorrow we will know the verdict and whether it’s Yes or No, we will come together behind green and white flags once more. In the event the polls are accurate, and No wins an unconvincing victory, use your voice in as many places you can, and let the chastened UK powers now that if they have any intention of Nation Building, they must use their influence to stop the exclusion of Scottish clubs from the dominant England-and-Wales football market.
Many people in Scotland feel culturally and economically excluded by this England-and-Wales legally permissible cartel. It suits the regions of England, it suits Wales, but it costs jobs and income in Scotland, is unjust and must end.
Allowing Scottish clubs to enter this market would bring tens of millions of £s into the east end of Glasgow every year. It would also establish emotional and cultural ties among groups in society who feel disenfranchised, and who the Westminster parties seem to have lost. In political terms, reaching out to football is a no-brainer.
Nation building is part art, part science, but it doesn’t work if you exclude people on what they hold dear.
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Philbhoy
That hour on Saturday will have got his match fitness up a bit, but there will be an even higher tempo tonight so i will be surprised if he manages to last much longer than an hour.
Gordybhoy64
Neganon2 has sited bullying and name calling on here, whilst referring to 2 posters in the one post as “brainless”
He is now saying he has no interest in a Celtic European game.
What a weird thing to say!
Hamiltontim You said at 12:20 on 18 September, 2014
Neganon
I agree, however, it dilutes your argument when you stand up for something that you personally don’t agree with, which clearly you don’t by not practicing.
I think is shows great strength of character to defend
‘something that you personally don’t agree with’.
However that is not what Neganon is doing.
T
pedro etc,
as I said no one side has behaved that well on here,
just find it sad that Neganon2 would let it affect his support for Celtic
BT
If we are going to maintain those standards then we maybe need to call out the people who are on our side of the argument when they go over the score or break the rules. When we do it to people on the other side of the fence it just looks like you are doing so because you disagree with their position.
That is why, as a No voter, I called out the person I saw making the Nazi allegation against Yes. I was hoping a few more Yes voters might have called out the OO jibe when it was being used. I remain grateful to the few that did.
Geordie M
You have explained what it IS NOT that you are calling him out for. You have been less successful or precise in describing what he is being called out for. The best I can make of it is that you are calling him out as a liar for Not saying clealry that he lives in Scotland and not in England. But I am unsure if that is the point or whether anyone has any reasonable proof to that point or even why it would generate the reaction it has. So why not say it clearly, without insinuation, what your point actually is.
Is ernie a liar and do you have proof?
Pedro
how is the mad bro getting on in Romania?
All this talk of whisky had me thinjung about him holed up in some hole without internet connection,
Last post on the Referendum.
Whether it is a Yes or a No every politician or politically minded person the UK should be asking themselves how has it come to this?
Not to find scapegoats (although that is the most likely first reaction) but to look at themselves and their thinking and take responsibility for whatever it has created.
Which whatever way you slice and dice it is division.
That is the road to healing. That is really taking responsibility.
The future Yes or No is an opportunity to build a better together society which is a state of mind, not a nation state, although the latter can be a means to that end if it so chooses.
blantyretim is praying for the Knox family
13:45 on 18 September, 2014
Pedro
how is the mad bro getting on in Romania?
All this talk of whisky had me thinjung about him holed up in some hole without internet connection,
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BT – is that not Airdrie? :-)
Gordybhoy64
Agreed, including myself at the weekend, SFTB pointed out my flaw and I issued an apology.
But not interested in Celtic playing a European tie…as I said weird.
Aow o)
kitalba
13:38 on 18 September, 2014
Davidopoulos
“Didn’t Mean To Hurt You”
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For the defiant Yessers: I Will Survive
For the jilted No’s: How Long Has This Been Going On?
pedrocaravanachio
I can confirm that you did so and I was grateful for it.
I remain sorrowed to see the same sentiment and attitude being expressed earlier today from other CQNrs.
Pedro – happy to have a beer.
As for ACGR Im sorry I let him down. But it happens.
Im not wearing sackcloth and ashes because of it though.
He is not my boyfriend (well not yet)!
BT
He wasn’t looking forward to it, he did post when he first arrived, but I think he is in the middle of nowhere now…
He’s hopefully going to be back for the game on Sunday.
Don’t get the “mad” bit…is he mad? :-)
Paul67,
Your latest article speaks to and for me. One wee difference, I have never flown any flag at Celtic Park or anywhere else but if I did, I would happily wave the Saltire.
Pedro
just a little bit…8-)
Davidopoulos
13:50 on 18 September, 2014
kitalba
13:38 on 18 September, 2014
Davidopoulos
“Didn’t Mean To Hurt You”
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For the defiant Yessers: I Will Survive
For the jilted No’s: How Long Has This Been Going On?
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Actually I Will Survive is probably more relevant for the No’s.
I Am What I Am is probably more suitable for Yes ;)
Davidopoulos
“Dueling Banjos”
I don’t want Celtic to play in the EPL. We are a Scottish team, playing here gives us a better chance of playing in Europe. The scenario you describe Paul – a No vote/inclusion into English league – will be the end of the Scottish national team. I know you don’t care about that but most people do. Vote YES.
Davidpoulos
maybe George Michaels faith could be more for yes.,
Paul67
If ever there was an opportunity to point out the paradox between the Better Together argument and the reality of its absence in terms of Scottish football, not just Celtic, then a No decision will open that door.
I have never understood the don’t bring the Celtic factor into the Referendum discussion, but perhaps that is because of the emotional attachment we all have for Celtic.
However if we all stepped out of our emotional overcoats and looked at Celtic from a hard business line, a Yes will restrict us to a shrinking gate attendance source of income that will restrict the quality of player we can afford which puts us in a very negative football and so business cycle with no hope of escape.
Perhaps tomorrow once the decision if it is No is known then the emotions can be left aside and the paradox of the poverty of the Scottish football industry in a United Kingdom can be used for the benefit of all Scottish clubs.
I can see why no one wanted to bring in the state of Scottish football and it’s independent governance into the debate for it paints a picture of a future no Celtic supporters could accept, hence the unease.
Ernie Lynch 1308
It is not Nationalism, it is self-determination, aka “the will of the people, or democracy”.
We will all (hopefully) still be Celtic supporters tomorrow.
HH
For me…
Personally…
In my opinion…
The most relevant song is I Don’t Want To Talk About It by Rod Stewart.
Why can’t it be tomorrow already?
Ernie
“But that doesn’t matter, if you can con enough people into believing it you might, just might get a majority.
And that’s all that matters. It doesn’t matter that you’ve lied. It doesn’t matter that people’s aspirations will be dashed. None of that matters.”
May1997?
Sftb….
Whoa whoa whoa. Liar? I’ve no idea wtf you are going on about now.
This is your quote
“All those jibes about ernie lynch being a long time resident of Croydon because he was voting No”
Apart from the fact your comment makes no sense (residents of Croydon can’t vote either way)….
My point is I don’t believe anyone thinks ernie comes from Croydon because he shouts for the no’s.
According to some on here ernie has said he doesn’t have a vote because he lives outside Scotland. That’s up to him to confirm or deny. I couldn’t care less. I don’t know where the Croydon thing comes from and I have never used it.
I’m certainly not calling him a liar. Some leap Btw.
The only thing I called him was a pain in the arse last night. To his ‘face’
Davidopoulos
“Caledonia”
Shameless repost mibbes aye/naw
Apologies to neg2 : looked bak, can’t find wat i attributed 2 u ;-))………..ure still a hun for sayin 2nites result has ” no interest 4 me”
Philbhoy @ 12:56 – beat it……eh, a don’t need telt to ;-))
Bawsman @ 12:58 – rabble rouser……..only in empty rooms ;-))
Tic 2 win 2-1 2day, Denayer & Scepovic
Hail Hail
CQN will shortly be a no go area for me today.
No access to LIVE coverage so I will be avoiding all internet access until Celtic TV broadcast their replay at 6pm local time.
My dinner will be fraught with anxiety.
For voters
I hope the queues disperse quickly
And
I hope your choice was a comfortable one.
Neganon2
He was heading to Romania on Sunday morning, was meeting up with a few of you guys, yourself, CRC, HT and his words “hopefully delaney’s dunky” to name a few. Sipsini had contacted him to say he couldn’t make it, which saddened him, however the walk down to the ground, was centred on a conversation about yourself ( I won’t get into my side of it ) he was looking forward to meeting you and hoping you wouldn’t “no show” again.
You did, and dealt with it the wrong way….that really dissappointed him….
Sack cloth and ashes would be a start….:-)
He’ll also get over.
But no interest in a Celtic European tie??
Canny get ma heid roon that.
Davidopoulos
“Candle in the wind”
Davidopoulos.
Choices ————George Jones .
A gem of a 45 —– Very appropriately for George , -it’s on Asylum
kitalba
MMMBop
Andy Murray offers to fund Scottish pension system
18-09-14
ANDY Murray has backed Scottish independence and offered to pay the country’s state pensions when everything goes to hell.
The Scot, who has not won Wimbledon since 2013, said he was attracted to the ‘Yes’ campaign because they like shouting aggressively whenever something goes wrong.
Murray, who lives near Walton-on-Thames, added: “I make lots of money and I’d be happy to give it all to Scottish pensioners if, for some unknown reason, it doesn’t work out.
“I just have to clear it with my accountant. Let’s do this!”
‘Yes’ follower Emma Robertson said: “I just love Andy’s blind faith, his use of exclamation marks and his massive, crazy promises.
“He’s really getting into the spirit of it.”
Apologies if already posted…
For USA bhoys…the Celtic v Salzburg game is on Fox Sports 2 at 1.00pm ET.
HH
South Of Tunis
14:08 on 18 September, 2014
Davidopoulos.
Choices ————George Jones .
A gem of a 45 —– Very appropriately for George , -it’s on Asylum
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Not heard it – I’ll need to give it a listen.
A 45? Is that one of them big black frisbees? ;)
Sky News gleefully reporting a guy lifted for assault outside a Polling Station in Clydebank
Auldheid
Captains of industry and powerful UK govt figures – Desmond, Reid, Livingston – have all failed to secure Celtic a pathway into the English leagues.
And probably not for the want of trying.
A No vote today isn’t going to suddenly open a door that has been firmly bolted shut – despite lobbying from govt figures and business tycoons connected to Celtic – for all of the last 22 years when TV and it’s money have dominated the sport.
Celtic and England is a non-starter regardless of today’s vote.
And regardless of the outcome of today’s vote the politicians in Edinburgh and Westminster have more important things to sort out to improve the life chances of ordinary people.
timaloy29
12:49 on 18 September, 2014
Can we not just vote to be part of Germany?
I like the food, the beer and the Bundesliga would be fun.
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I second that. I love their cars and kichen appliances.
HH
I’ve helped to end London rule. I voted YES